Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 A very useful poem from a great Sufi sent by our friend Ivan- see his notes at the foot. Here's your Daily Poem from the Poetry Chaikhana -- Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: By Yunus Emre(1238 - 1320) English version by Nam k Kemal Zeybek Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: Knowledge means to know yourself, heart and soul.If you have failed to understand yourself, Then all of your reading has missed its call.What is the purpose of reading those books? So that Man can know the All-Powerful. If you have read, but failed to understand,Then your efforts are just a barren toil.Don't boast of reading, mastering science Or of all your prayers and obeisance.If you don't identify Man as God, All your learning is of no use at all.The true meaning of the four holy books Is found in the alphabet's first letter.You talk about that first letter, preacher; What is the meaning of that-could you tell?Yunus Emre says to you, Pharisee, Make the holy pilgrimage if need be A hundred times -- but if you ask me,A visit to the heart is best of all. / Photo by whatmegsaid / ============ Thought for the Day: Find the magicin the moment. ============ Here's your Daily Music selection -- Riffat Sultana Sufi Folk and Love Songs Listen - Purchase More Music Selections Hi Alan -Yunus Emre is considered by many to be one of the most important Turkish poets. Little can be said for certain of his life other than that he was a Sufi dervish of Anatolia. The love people have for his liberating poetry is reflected in the fact that many villages claim to be his birthplace, and many others claim to hold his tomb.His poetry expresses a deep personal mysticism and humanism and love for God.He was a contemporary of Rumi, who lived in the same region. Rumi composed his collection of stories and songs for a well-educated urban circle of Sufis, writing primarily in the literary language of Persian. Yunus Emre, on the other hand, traveled and taught among the rural poor, singing his songs in the Turkish language of the common people.A story is told of a meeting between the two great souls: Rumi asked Yunus Emre what he thought of his great work the Mathnawi. Yunus Emre said, "Excellent, excellent! But I would have done it differently." Surprised, Rumi asked how. Yunus replied, "I would have written, 'I came from the eternal, clothed myself in flesh, and took the name Yunus.'" That story perfectly illustrates Yunus Emre's simple, direct approach that has made him so beloved.---Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: Knowledge means to know yourself, heart and soul.If you have failed to understand yourself, Then all of your reading has missed its call.Sages of all lands keep reminding us that the spiritual journey is a journey of awareness, and specifically self-awareness. It is not a journey of acquisition. Or intellect. Or adherence to rules.It is not a matter of how many books we've read. Or how many times we've read them. The only question of any value is whether we've yet recognized their truths... within ourselves.It is not a matter of how often you pray. Or how perfectly you enunciate each prescribed word. The question is, have you discovered how the prayer wells up within you on its own.Make the holy pilgrimage if need be A hundred times -- but if you ask me,A visit to the heart is best of all..Follow each prescribed step of the journey, and bring your books, but what you seek is found only and always in the heart of the heart.Ivan Support the Poetry Chaikhana Donations to the Poetry Chaikhana in any amount are always welcome. Thank you! Click here You can also support the Poetry Chaikhana, as well as the authors and publishers of sacred poetry, by purchasing some of the recommended books through the links on this site. Thank you! Click here A small amount each month makes a big difference. Become a voluntary Subscriber for just $2/mo. Click here Help the Poetry Chaikhana reach more people. Become a Supporter for just $10/mo. Poetry Chaikhana HomeNew | Books | Music | Teahouse | About | ContactPoets by: Name| Tradition | Timeline Poetry by: Theme | CommentaryBlog | Forum | Facebook | Twitter www.Poetry-Chaikhana.com Poetry ChaikhanaP.O. Box 2320Boulder, CO 80306 Ivan M. Granger's original poetry, stories and commentaries are 2002 - 2008 by Ivan M. Granger.All other material is copyrighted by the respective authors, translators and/or publishers. ============ Plain Text: If you have any difficulty reading this HTML formatted email, please let me know and I can send you plain text emails instead. Cancelling: If you wish to stop receiving this Daily Poem email from the Poetry Chaikhana, simply reply to this email and change the Subject to "Cancel". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Alan Sir,Nice poem indeed.Want to add few imp quotes spoken by Ramana Maharshi regarding acquiring knowledge....In verse 34 of Ulladu Narpadu Anubandham Sri Ramana says: For people of little intelligence, wife, children and others [other relatives] form [just] one family. [However] know that in the mind of people who have vast learning, there are not [just] one [but] many families [in the form] of books [that stand] as obstacles to yoga [spiritual practice]. In verse 36 of Ulladu Narpadu Anubandham Sri Ramana says: Rather than people who though learned have not subsided [surrendered or become subdued, humble or still], the unlearned are saved. They are saved from the ghost of pride that possesses [the learned]. They are saved from the disease of many whirling thoughts. They are saved from running in search of fame [repute, respect, esteem or glory]. Know that what they are saved from is not [just] one [evil]. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: A very useful poem from a great Sufi sent by our friend Ivan- see his notes at the foot. Here's your Daily Poem from the Poetry Chaikhana -- Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: By Yunus Emre(1238 - 1320) English version by Nam k Kemal Zeybek Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: Knowledge means to know yourself, heart and soul.If you have failed to understand yourself, Then all of your reading has missed its call.What is the purpose of reading those books? So that Man can know the All-Powerful. If you have read, but failed to understand,Then your efforts are just a barren toil. Don't boast of reading, mastering science Or of all your prayers and obeisance.If you don't identify Man as God, All your learning is of no use at all.The true meaning of the four holy books Is found in the alphabet's first letter.You talk about that first letter, preacher; What is the meaning of that-could you tell?Yunus Emre says to you, Pharisee, Make the holy pilgrimage if need be A hundred times -- but if you ask me,A visit to the heart is best of all. / Photo by whatmegsaid / ============ Thought for the Day: Find the magicin the moment. ============ Here's your Daily Music selection -- Riffat Sultana Sufi Folk and Love Songs Listen - Purchase More Music Selections Hi Alan -Yunus Emre is considered by many to be one of the most important Turkish poets. Little can be said for certain of his life other than that he was a Sufi dervish of Anatolia. The love people have for his liberating poetry is reflected in the fact that many villages claim to be his birthplace, and many others claim to hold his tomb. His poetry expresses a deep personal mysticism and humanism and love for God.He was a contemporary of Rumi, who lived in the same region. Rumi composed his collection of stories and songs for a well-educated urban circle of Sufis, writing primarily in the literary language of Persian. Yunus Emre, on the other hand, traveled and taught among the rural poor, singing his songs in the Turkish language of the common people. A story is told of a meeting between the two great souls: Rumi asked Yunus Emre what he thought of his great work the Mathnawi. Yunus Emre said, " Excellent, excellent! But I would have done it differently. " Surprised, Rumi asked how. Yunus replied, " I would have written, 'I came from the eternal, clothed myself in flesh, and took the name Yunus.' " That story perfectly illustrates Yunus Emre's simple, direct approach that has made him so beloved. ---Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: Knowledge means to know yourself, heart and soul.If you have failed to understand yourself, Then all of your reading has missed its call. Sages of all lands keep reminding us that the spiritual journey is a journey of awareness, and specifically self-awareness. It is not a journey of acquisition. Or intellect. Or adherence to rules.It is not a matter of how many books we've read. Or how many times we've read them. The only question of any value is whether we've yet recognized their truths... within ourselves. It is not a matter of how often you pray. Or how perfectly you enunciate each prescribed word. The question is, have you discovered how the prayer wells up within you on its own.Make the holy pilgrimage if need be A hundred times -- but if you ask me,A visit to the heart is best of all..Follow each prescribed step of the journey, and bring your books, but what you seek is found only and always in the heart of the heart. Ivan Support the Poetry Chaikhana Donations to the Poetry Chaikhana in any amount are always welcome. Thank you! Click here You can also support the Poetry Chaikhana, as well as the authors and publishers of sacred poetry, by purchasing some of the recommended books through the links on this site. Thank you! Click here A small amount each month makes a big difference. Become a voluntary Subscriber for just $2/mo. Click here Help the Poetry Chaikhana reach more people. Become a Supporter for just $10/mo. Poetry Chaikhana Home New | Books | Music | Teahouse | About | Contact Poets by: Name| Tradition | Timeline Poetry by: Theme | Commentary Blog | Forum | Facebook | Twitter www.Poetry-Chaikhana.com Poetry ChaikhanaP.O. Box 2320Boulder, CO 80306 Ivan M. Granger's original poetry, stories and commentaries are 2002 - 2008 by Ivan M. Granger. All other material is copyrighted by the respective authors, translators and/or publishers. ============ Plain Text: If you have any difficulty reading this HTML formatted email, please let me know and I can send you plain text emails instead. Cancelling: If you wish to stop receiving this Daily Poem email from the Poetry Chaikhana, simply reply to this email and change the Subject to " Cancel " . -- Om namo Bhagavate Sri RamanayaPrasanth Jalasutram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Dear Alan tku for sharing with the sangha these incredible "poems" they state what is in the heart of hearts in this person and special thanks to you, der friend! For choosing what you send.... this is an incredible value for walking the walk be embraced in gratitude a n d if possible let Ivan know how this work is appreciated...... in Sri Ramana Maharshi michael - Alan Jacobs Monday, June 15, 2009 5:02 PM Yunus Emre - Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: A very useful poem from a great Sufi sent by our friend Ivan- see his notes at the foot. Here's your Daily Poem from the Poetry Chaikhana -- Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: By Yunus Emre(1238 - 1320) English version by Nam k Kemal Zeybek Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: Knowledge means to know yourself, heart and soul.If you have failed to understand yourself, Then all of your reading has missed its call.What is the purpose of reading those books? So that Man can know the All-Powerful. If you have read, but failed to understand,Then your efforts are just a barren toil.Don't boast of reading, mastering science Or of all your prayers and obeisance.If you don't identify Man as God, All your learning is of no use at all.The true meaning of the four holy books Is found in the alphabet's first letter.You talk about that first letter, preacher; What is the meaning of that-could you tell?Yunus Emre says to you, Pharisee, Make the holy pilgrimage if need be A hundred times -- but if you ask me,A visit to the heart is best of all. / Photo by whatmegsaid / ============ Thought for the Day: Find the magicin the moment. ============ Here's your Daily Music selection -- Riffat Sultana Sufi Folk and Love Songs Listen - Purchase More Music Selections Hi Alan -Yunus Emre is considered by many to be one of the most important Turkish poets. Little can be said for certain of his life other than that he was a Sufi dervish of Anatolia. The love people have for his liberating poetry is reflected in the fact that many villages claim to be his birthplace, and many others claim to hold his tomb.His poetry expresses a deep personal mysticism and humanism and love for God.He was a contemporary of Rumi, who lived in the same region. Rumi composed his collection of stories and songs for a well-educated urban circle of Sufis, writing primarily in the literary language of Persian. Yunus Emre, on the other hand, traveled and taught among the rural poor, singing his songs in the Turkish language of the common people.A story is told of a meeting between the two great souls: Rumi asked Yunus Emre what he thought of his great work the Mathnawi. Yunus Emre said, "Excellent, excellent! But I would have done it differently." Surprised, Rumi asked how. Yunus replied, "I would have written, 'I came from the eternal, clothed myself in flesh, and took the name Yunus.'" That story perfectly illustrates Yunus Emre's simple, direct approach that has made him so beloved.---Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: Knowledge means to know yourself, heart and soul.If you have failed to understand yourself, Then all of your reading has missed its call.Sages of all lands keep reminding us that the spiritual journey is a journey of awareness, and specifically self-awareness. It is not a journey of acquisition. Or intellect. Or adherence to rules.It is not a matter of how many books we've read. Or how many times we've read them. The only question of any value is whether we've yet recognized their truths... within ourselves.It is not a matter of how often you pray. Or how perfectly you enunciate each prescribed word. The question is, have you discovered how the prayer wells up within you on its own.Make the holy pilgrimage if need be A hundred times -- but if you ask me,A visit to the heart is best of all..Follow each prescribed step of the journey, and bring your books, but what you seek is found only and always in the heart of the heart.Ivan Support the Poetry Chaikhana Donations to the Poetry Chaikhana in any amount are always welcome. Thank you! Click here You can also support the Poetry Chaikhana, as well as the authors and publishers of sacred poetry, by purchasing some of the recommended books through the links on this site. Thank you! Click here A small amount each month makes a big difference. Become a voluntary Subscriber for just $2/mo. Click here Help the Poetry Chaikhana reach more people. Become a Supporter for just $10/mo. 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Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Dear Prashant, Thank you very much for these useful pointers from our Master. They are very appropriate in my opinion. All best wishes and warmest regards, Yours in Bhagavan, Alan--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Prasanth Jalasutram <jvrsprasanth wrote: Prasanth Jalasutram <jvrsprasanthRe: Yunus Emre - Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge:Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 4:20 PM Alan Sir, Nice poem indeed. Want to add few imp quotes spoken by Ramana Maharshi regarding acquiring knowledge... . In verse 34 of Ulladu Narpadu Anubandham Sri Ramana says: For people of little intelligence, wife, children and others [other relatives] form [just] one family. [However] know that in the mind of people who have vast learning, there are not [just] one [but] many families [in the form] of books [that stand] as obstacles to yoga [spiritual practice]. In verse 36 of Ulladu Narpadu Anubandham Sri Ramana says:Rather than people who though learned have not subsided [surrendered or become subdued, humble or still], the unlearned are saved. They are saved from the ghost of pride that possesses [the learned]. They are saved from the disease of many whirling thoughts. They are saved from running in search of fame [repute, respect, esteem or glory]. Know that what they are saved from is not [just] one [evil]. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk> wrote: A very useful poem from a great Sufi sent by our friend Ivan- see his notes at the foot. Here's your Daily Poem from the Poetry Chaikhana -- Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: By Yunus Emre(1238 - 1320) English version by Nam k Kemal Zeybek Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: Knowledge means to know yourself, heart and soul.If you have failed to understand yourself, Then all of your reading has missed its call.What is the purpose of reading those books? So that Man can know the All-Powerful. If you have read, but failed to understand,Then your efforts are just a barren toil.Don't boast of reading, mastering science Or of all your prayers and obeisance.If you don't identify Man as God, All your learning is of no use at all.The true meaning of the four holy books Is found in the alphabet's first letter.You talk about that first letter, preacher; What is the meaning of that-could you tell?Yunus Emre says to you, Pharisee, Make the holy pilgrimage if need be A hundred times -- but if you ask me,A visit to the heart is best of all. / Photo by whatmegsaid / ============ Thought for the Day: Find the magicin the moment. ============ Here's your Daily Music selection -- Riffat Sultana Sufi Folk and Love Songs Listen - Purchase More Music Selections Hi Alan -Yunus Emre is considered by many to be one of the most important Turkish poets. Little can be said for certain of his life other than that he was a Sufi dervish of Anatolia. The love people have for his liberating poetry is reflected in the fact that many villages claim to be his birthplace, and many others claim to hold his tomb.His poetry expresses a deep personal mysticism and humanism and love for God.He was a contemporary of Rumi, who lived in the same region. Rumi composed his collection of stories and songs for a well-educated urban circle of Sufis, writing primarily in the literary language of Persian. Yunus Emre, on the other hand, traveled and taught among the rural poor, singing his songs in the Turkish language of the common people.A story is told of a meeting between the two great souls: Rumi asked Yunus Emre what he thought of his great work the Mathnawi. Yunus Emre said, "Excellent, excellent! But I would have done it differently." Surprised, Rumi asked how. Yunus replied, "I would have written, 'I came from the eternal, clothed myself in flesh, and took the name Yunus.'" That story perfectly illustrates Yunus Emre's simple, direct approach that has made him so beloved.---Knowledge should mean a full grasp of knowledge: Knowledge means to know yourself, heart and soul.If you have failed to understand yourself, Then all of your reading has missed its call.Sages of all lands keep reminding us that the spiritual journey is a journey of awareness, and specifically self-awareness. It is not a journey of acquisition. Or intellect. Or adherence to rules.It is not a matter of how many books we've read. Or how many times we've read them. The only question of any value is whether we've yet recognized their truths... within ourselves.It is not a matter of how often you pray. Or how perfectly you enunciate each prescribed word. The question is, have you discovered how the prayer wells up within you on its own.Make the holy pilgrimage if need be A hundred times -- but if you ask me,A visit to the heart is best of all...Follow each prescribed step of the journey, and bring your books, but what you seek is found only and always in the heart of the heart.Ivan Support the Poetry Chaikhana Donations to the Poetry Chaikhana in any amount are always welcome. Thank you! Click here You can also support the Poetry Chaikhana, as well as the authors and publishers of sacred poetry, by purchasing some of the recommended books through the links on this site. Thank you! Click here A small amount each month makes a big difference. Become a voluntary Subscriber for just $2/mo. Click here Help the Poetry Chaikhana reach more people. Become a Supporter for just $10/mo. Poetry Chaikhana HomeNew | Books | Music | Teahouse | About | ContactPoets by: Name| Tradition | Timeline Poetry by: Theme | CommentaryBlog | Forum | Facebook | Twitter www.Poetry-Chaikhan a.com Poetry ChaikhanaP.O. Box 2320Boulder, CO 80306 Ivan M. Granger's original poetry, stories and commentaries are 2002 - 2008 by Ivan M. Granger.All other material is copyrighted by the respective authors, translators and/or publishers. ============ Plain Text: If you have any difficulty reading this HTML formatted email, please let me know and I can send you plain text emails instead. Cancelling: If you wish to stop receiving this Daily Poem email from the Poetry Chaikhana, simply reply to this email and change the Subject to "Cancel". -- Om namo Bhagavate Sri RamanayaPrasanth Jalasutram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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