Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Dear Sandosham, As Gabriele's posting points out, the principle is to have Advaita, or the Truth of Non Dualism, in the backround of one's mind and life, but not to show it outwardly , but behave normally according to one's lfe style and highest standards. With love Yours in Bhagavan, Alan--- On Thu, 9/7/09, born010405 <born010405 wrote: born010405 <born010405 Advaita only in spirit Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 7:45 PM Dear brothers and sisters in Ramana,unfortunately I can't recall the source,but how is the following say by Sri Ramana to understand?" One should thing of Advaitabut not handle Advaita".Yours in BhagavanSandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 " born010405 " <born010405 wrote: > > how is the following say by Sri Ramana to > understand? " One should thing of Advaita > but not handle Advaita " . Dear Sandoshan, namaste, To my understanding, Advaita is primarily an understanding of our essential nature, the Self. From the first stages of an intellectual understanding of that, it culminates with the total dissapearance of the wrong notion that what-I-am is encapsulated in a body mind, separated from " a world out there " and having an independent existence. But as long as there is a body-mind, even if the identification with it is not there anymore, it continues to be relative reality to deal with, so duality. At that " relative " level, relationships and interactions continue on the basis of different names and forms (that according to Bhagavan's teachings, are not real in themselves). That's why Bhagavan Ramana continued to praise Arunachala and Nisargadatta Maharaj continued to do pujas to his guru's image. Our sadhana (practice) continues to be to turn the mind towards that which is the Source of our notional " I-thought " , and someone may object: but this in itself is dualistic practice! Advaita is a pointer, pointing towards advaitic Understanding, or simply Being. Advaita is internal practice, externally there is only duality, apparent duality... that's why is a contradiction in terms to apply or handle Advaita in our daily life, since any action involves duality. Yours in Bhagavan, Mouna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:43:43 -0000 > " Gabriele Ebert " <g.ebert >Subject: Re: Advaita only in spirit >To: > > Supplement to the 40 Verses, V. 39: > **************************************************************** > Keep advaita within the Heart. Do not ever carry it > into action. Even if you apply it to all the three > worlds, O Son, it is not to be applied to the Guru. > (Tattvopadesa, v. 87 by Shankara) > **************************************************************** remember: you are not the doer. yosy > > , " born010405 " > <born010405 wrote: > > > > Dear brothers and sisters in Ramana, > > > > unfortunately I can't recall the source, > > but how is the following say by Sri Ramana to > > understand? " One should thing of Advaita > > but not handle Advaita " . > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > > > Sandosham > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Van: Namens yosyflug Verzonden: vrijdag 10 juli 2009 1:55 Aan: Onderwerp: Re: [ - Ramana Guru] Re: Advaita only in spirit ---- Original message ---- > Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:43:43 -0000 > " Gabriele Ebert " <g.ebert (AT) gmx (DOT) de> > Re: Advaita only in spirit > > > Supplement to the 40 Verses, V. 39: > **************************************************************** > Keep advaita within the Heart. Do not ever carry it > into action. Even if you apply it to all the three > worlds, O Son, it is not to be applied to the Guru. > (Tattvopadesa, v. 87 by Shankara) > **************************************************************** remember: you are not the doer. yosy If I’m not the doer who is remembering? Sam > > , " born010405 " > <born010405 wrote: > > > > Dear brothers and sisters in Ramana, > > > > unfortunately I can't recall the source, > > but how is the following say by Sri Ramana to > > understand? " One should thing of Advaita > > but not handle Advaita " . > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > > > Sandosham > Ik gebruik de gratis versie van SPAMfighterWij zijn een gemeenschap van 6 miljoen gebruikers in strijd tegen spam.6498 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd.De Professionele versie heeft deze voetnoot niet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Sam, Your own dear Self pronpts you to remember; we are not the doers of action. Love, in Him, Alan--- On Fri, 10/7/09, Sam Pasiencier <sampas wrote: Sam Pasiencier <sampasRE: Re: Advaita only in spirit Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 11:29 AM Van: [ ] Namens yosyflug (AT) isdn (DOT) . net.ilVerzonden: vrijdag 10 juli 2009 1:55Aan: Onderwerp: Re: Re: Advaita only in spirit ---- Original message ----> Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:43:43 -0000> "Gabriele Ebert" <g.ebert (AT) gmx (DOT) de> > Re: Advaita only in spirit > >> Supplement to the 40 Verses, V. 39:> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *******> Keep advaita within the Heart. Do not ever carry it> into action. Even if you apply it to all the three> worlds, O Son, it is not to be applied to the Guru.> (Tattvopadesa, v. 87 by Shankara)> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******* remember: you are not the doer. yosy If I’m not the doer who is remembering? Sam >> , "born010405"> <born010405@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear brothers and sisters in Ramana,> >> > unfortunately I can't recall the source,> > but how is the following say by Sri Ramana to> > understand?" One should thing of Advaita> > but not handle Advaita".> >> > Yours in Bhagavan> >> > Sandosham> Ik gebruik de gratis versie van SPAMfighterWij zijn een gemeenschap van 6 miljoen gebruikers in strijd tegen spam.6498 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd.De Professionele versie heeft deze voetnoot niet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Sam Pasiencier wrote: > > > ------ > > *Van:* > *Namens *yosyflug > *Verzonden:* vrijdag 10 juli 2009 1:55 > *Aan:* > *Onderwerp:* Re: Re: Advaita only in spirit ---- Original message ---- > >Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:43:43 -0000 > > " Gabriele Ebert " <g.ebert <g.ebert%40gmx.de>> > > Re: Advaita only in > spirit > > > <%40> > > > > Supplement to the 40 Verses, V. 39: > > > **************************************************************** > > Keep advaita within the Heart. Do not ever carry it > > into action. Even if you apply it to all the three > > worlds, O Son, it is not to be applied to the Guru. > > (Tattvopadesa, v. 87 by Shankara) > > > **************************************************************** > > remember: you are not the doer. > > yosy > > > *If I’m not the doer who is remembering? * > > *Sam* > remembrance. shabbat shalom all, yosy ps. memento mori... the blue hole dive 1972 death beckoned me softly and i followed. but then it smiled, saying: do not rush, my dear. anyway, your corpse is mine and keeps on dying all the time! but you are not. unborn, boundless, how can you die? wake up, my friend and return to the surface. there is no " i " ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Alan Jacobs wrote: > > > Dear Sam, > > Your own dear Self pronpts you to remember; we are not the doers of > action. Love, in Him, Alan > yes... the self, the impersonal, timeless and all containing one-without-another, keeps all memories ever present and available as required. shabbat shalom all, yosy ps. There is one remembrance, Which is present always. A beacon in my mind’s depth. Thank god for this memory The one that says: “forget it all, beloved lose yourself in love†.. > > > --- On *Fri, 10/7/09, Sam Pasiencier /<sampas/* wrote: > > > Sam Pasiencier <sampas > RE: Re: Advaita only in spirit > > Friday, 10 July, 2009, 11:29 AM > > > > > > ------ > > *Van:* [ @ > . com ] *Namens *yosyflug (AT) isdn (DOT) . net.il > *Verzonden:* vrijdag 10 juli 2009 1:55 > *Aan:* > *Onderwerp:* Re: Re: Advaita only > in spirit > > ---- Original message ---- > > Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:43:43 -0000 > > " Gabriele Ebert " <g.ebert (AT) gmx (DOT) de > <http://uk.mc275.mail./mc/compose?to=g.ebert%40gmx.de>> > > Re: Advaita only in > spirit > > > <http://uk.mc275.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> > > > > Supplement to the 40 Verses, V. 39: > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******* > > Keep advaita within the Heart. Do not ever carry it > > into action. Even if you apply it to all the three > > worlds, O Son, it is not to be applied to the Guru. > > (Tattvopadesa, v. 87 by Shankara) > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******* > > remember: you are not the doer. > > yosy > > > *If I’m not the doer who is remembering? * > *Sam* > > > > > > <http://uk.mc275.mail./mc/compose?to=%40>, > " born010405 " > > <born010405@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear brothers and sisters in Ramana, > > > > > > unfortunately I can't recall the source, > > > but how is the following say by Sri Ramana to > > > understand? " One should thing of Advaita > > > but not handle Advaita " . > > > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > > > > > Sandosham > > > > ------ > I > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 , " Gabriele Ebert " <g.ebert wrote: > > Supplement to the 40 Verses, V. 39: > **************************************************************** > Keep advaita within the Heart. Do not ever carry it into action. Even if you apply it to all the three worlds, O Son, it is not to be applied to the Guru. (Tattvopadesa, v. 87 by Shankara) > **************************************************************** > > , " born010405 " <born010405@> wrote: > > > > Dear brothers and sisters in Ramana, > > > > unfortunately I can't recall the source, > > but how is the following say by Sri Ramana to > > understand? " One should thing of Advaita > > but not handle Advaita " . > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > > > Sandosham > > > Sincere thanks to all that made the effort to answer my question. Every answer was most helpful and clarifying. Yours in Him Sandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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