Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Dear all, trying to define the difference between beeing religious and spiritual. I do have an idea but need clarification. Warmest regards, Yours in Him Sandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Dear Sandosham, As I understand it, the word religion is used to denominate a certain Tradition such as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. The root is the Latin word religio meaning to yoke or bind. Spiritual refers to the inner Spirit- Soul , Atman or Self inherent in every sentient Being. I trust that is clear. All the very best, Yours in Bhagavan, Alan--- On Mon, 13/7/09, born010405 <born010405 wrote: born010405 <born010405 Religion - Spirituality Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 10:45 AM Dear all,trying to define the difference betweenbeeing religious and spiritual.I do have an idea but need clarification.Warmest regards,Yours in HimSandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > Dear Sandosham, > > As I understand it, the word religion is used to denominate a certain Tradition such as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. The root is the Latin word religio meaning to yoke or bind. > > Spiritual refers to the inner Spirit- Soul , Atman or Self inherent in every sentient Being. > > I trust that is clear. > > All the very best, > > Yours in Bhagavan, > > Alan > > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, born010405 <born010405 wrote: > > > born010405 <born010405 > Religion - Spirituality > > Monday, 13 July, 2009, 10:45 AM > > Dear all, > > trying to define the difference between > beeing religious and spiritual. > > I do have an idea but need clarification. > > Warmest regards, > > Yours in Him > Sandosham > Yes dear Alan, very clear indeed. Thanks, yours in Him Sandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > Dear Sandosham, > > As I understand it, the word religion is used to denominate a certain Tradition such as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. The root is the Latin word religio meaning to yoke or bind. > > Spiritual refers to the inner Spirit- Soul , Atman or Self inherent in every sentient Being. > > I trust that is clear. > > All the very best, > > Yours in Bhagavan, > > Alan > > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, born010405 <born010405 wrote: > > > born010405 <born010405 > Religion - Spirituality > > Monday, 13 July, 2009, 10:45 AM > > Dear all, > > trying to define the difference between > beeing religious and spiritual. > > I do have an idea but need clarification. > > Warmest regards, > > Yours in Him > > Sandosham > Dear Alan, can one say that the essence of every religion is spiritual? Yours in Him, S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Religion - Attempting to reach GOD through a set of rules , traditions and beliefs. Spirituality - Direct personal one to one relationship with GOD. love ramesh --- On Mon, 7/13/09, born010405 <born010405 wrote: born010405 <born010405Re: Religion - Spirituality Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 3:39 PM , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sandosham,> > As I understand it, the word religion is used to denominate a certain Tradition such as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. The root is the Latin word religio meaning to yoke or bind.> > Spiritual refers to the inner Spirit- Soul , Atman or Self inherent in every sentient Being.> > I trust that is clear.> > All the very best,> > Yours in Bhagavan,> > Alan> > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, born010405 <born010405@ ...> wrote:> > > born010405 <born010405@ ...>> [ - Ramana Guru] Religion - Spirituality> > Monday, 13 July, 2009, 10:45 AM> > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > trying to define the difference between> beeing religious and spiritual.> > I do have an idea but need clarification.> > Warmest regards,> > Yours in Him> > Sandosham>Dear Alan,can one say that the essence of every religionis spiritual?Yours in Him,S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Dr.Raju wrote: Dear Alan and Sandosham,I feel that To be in relationship with the existence is spiritual.To be in tune with the whole,to feel the harmony,joy,sheer celebration of being here is spirituality.It is not talking about the spirituality,not to follow certain creed,sect,dogma,church. A religious person is one who sets out the search for his " I " and more he goes on searching,the more he finds out that his imagined " I " is not there at all.The day the shadow of " I " disappears,the day neither nor " you " remains,you are religious. , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > Dear Sandosham, > > As I understand it, the word religion is used to denominate a certain Tradition such as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. The root is the Latin word religio meaning to yoke or bind. > > Spiritual refers to the inner Spirit- Soul , Atman or Self inherent in every sentient Being. > > I trust that is clear. > > All the very best, > > Yours in Bhagavan, > > Alan > > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, born010405 <born010405 wrote: > > > born010405 <born010405 > Religion - Spirituality > > Monday, 13 July, 2009, 10:45 AM > > Dear all, > > trying to define the difference between > beeing religious and spiritual. > > I do have an idea but need clarification. > > Warmest regards, > > Yours in Him > > Sandosham > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Dear Sandosham, Yes, the inner essence of all the Higher Traditional Religions as propounded by their Founders was Spiritual i.e. Moses, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammad, the Ancient Rishis etc.. Distortions may have happpened through the subsequent misunderstanding of their followers. You have to exercise your spiritual discrimination to determine this point. All the best, Alan--- On Mon, 13/7/09, born010405 <born010405 wrote: born010405 <born010405Re: Religion - Spirituality Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 11:09 AM , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sandosham,> > As I understand it, the word religion is used to denominate a certain Tradition such as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. The root is the Latin word religio meaning to yoke or bind.> > Spiritual refers to the inner Spirit- Soul , Atman or Self inherent in every sentient Being.> > I trust that is clear.> > All the very best,> > Yours in Bhagavan,> > Alan> > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, born010405 <born010405@ ...> wrote:> > > born010405 <born010405@ ...>> [ - Ramana Guru] Religion - Spirituality> > Monday, 13 July, 2009, 10:45 AM> > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > trying to define the difference between> beeing religious and spiritual.> > I do have an idea but need clarification.> > Warmest regards,> > Yours in Him> > Sandosham>Dear Alan,can one say that the essence of every religionis spiritual?Yours in Him,S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Dear Ramesh and. Dr. Raju. I agree, Love, Yours in Him, Alan--- On Mon, 13/7/09, drrajunsp <drrajunsp wrote: drrajunsp <drrajunsp Re: Religion - Spirituality Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 11:18 AM Dr.Raju wrote:Dear Alan and Sandosham,I feel thatTo be in relationship with the existence is spiritual.To be in tune with the whole,to feel the harmony,joy, sheer celebration of being hereis spirituality. It is not talking about the spirituality, not to followcertain creed,sect,dogma, church.A religious person is one who sets out the search for his "I" and more he goes on searching,the more he finds out that his imagined "I"is not there at all.The day the shadow of "I" disappears,the dayneither nor "you" remains,you are religious. , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sandosham,> > As I understand it, the word religion is used to denominate a certain Tradition such as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. The root is the Latin word religio meaning to yoke or bind.> > Spiritual refers to the inner Spirit- Soul , Atman or Self inherent in every sentient Being.> > I trust that is clear.> > All the very best,> > Yours in Bhagavan,> > Alan> > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, born010405 <born010405@ ...> wrote:> > > born010405 <born010405@ ...>> Religion - Spirituality> > Monday, 13 July, 2009, 10:45 AM> > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > trying to define the difference between> beeing religious and spiritual.> > I do have an idea but need clarification.> > Warmest regards,> > Yours in Him> > Sandosham> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > Dear Ramesh and. Dr. Raju. > > I agree, > > Love, > > Yours in Him, > > Alan > > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, drrajunsp <drrajunsp wrote: > > > drrajunsp <drrajunsp > Re: Religion - Spirituality > > Monday, 13 July, 2009, 11:18 AM > > Dr.Raju wrote: > > Dear Alan and Sandosham,I feel that > > To be in relationship with the existence is spiritual.To be in tune > > with the whole,to feel the harmony,joy, sheer celebration of being here > > is spirituality. It is not talking about the spirituality, not to follow > > certain creed,sect,dogma, church. > > A religious person is one who sets out the search for his " I " and > > more he goes on searching,the more he finds out that his imagined " I " > > is not there at all.The day the shadow of " I " disappears,the day > > neither nor " you " remains,you are religious. > > , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sandosham, > > > > As I understand it, the word religion is used to denominate a certain Tradition such as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. The root is the Latin word religio meaning to yoke or bind. > > > > Spiritual refers to the inner Spirit- Soul , Atman or Self inherent in every sentient Being. > > > > I trust that is clear. > > > > All the very best, > > > > Yours in Bhagavan, > > > > Alan > > > > --- On Mon, 13/7/09, born010405 <born010405@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > born010405 <born010405@ ...> > > Religion - Spirituality > > > > Monday, 13 July, 2009, 10:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > trying to define the difference between > > beeing religious and spiritual. > > > > I do have an idea but need clarification. > > > > Warmest regards, > > > > Yours in Him > > > > Sandosham > > > Dear Ramesh and dear Dr.Raju, thanks for your clarifying responds. Warmest regards, Sandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Sandosham, This is a relevant question. My particular approach is that religion is a structure that creates an identity in relationship to which ever name of God one is devoted to. We know here it is always the same God, just with various names. Spirituality is also a creation of an identity with some idea about oneself but the structure is more personal and flexible. I don't consider myself religious or spiritual in the way I define these words. To be one's self naturally as Ramana did puts an end to all ideas about being religious or spiritual, in my humble estimation. I hope this was of some use. Thank you, Rafe , " born010405 " <born010405 wrote: > > Dear all, > > trying to define the difference between > beeing religious and spiritual. > > I do have an idea but need clarification. > > Warmest regards, > > Yours in Him > > Sandosham > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 ---- Original message ---- >Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:45:38 -0000 > " born010405 " <born010405 >Subject: Religion - Spirituality >To: > > Dear all, > > trying to define the difference between > beeing religious and spiritual. > > I do have an idea but need clarification. > > Warmest regards, > > Yours in Him > > Sandosham > > the best and accurate description i heard: religious people fear hell. spiritual people had already been there. respectfully, yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 > trying to define the difference between > beeing religious and spiritual. Namaste, In the Vedanta Advaita tradition religion helps purify the mind (karma yoga) to make it suitable for Self-Enquiry (Jnana marga). I would say religion is surrendering to the God outside oneself, spirituality is surrendering to the Self within. Both are valuable and even necessary in that order. Bhagavan, always praised his Guru Arunachala with a very respectful, devotional and rather " religious " attitude. Yours in Bhagavan, Mouna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yossi Dear g r e a t its what i feel this person experienced already in other existences - and their result was this birth and its result is the way back home..... thank you!!! michael boooooooooooooooooMMMMM cant imitate it so i follow you... - yosyflug Monday, July 13, 2009 8:56 PM Re: Religion - Spirituality ---- Original message ----> Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:45:38 -0000> "born010405" <born010405 (AT) (DOT) de> > Religion - Spirituality > >> Dear all,>> trying to define the difference between> beeing religious and spiritual.>> I do have an idea but need clarification.>> Warmest regards,>> Yours in Him>> Sandosham>> the best and accurate description i heard: religious people fear hell. spiritual people had already been there. respectfully, yosy Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.13/2236 - Release 07/13/09 17:57:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 , <yosyflug wrote: > > > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:45:38 -0000 > > " born010405 " <born010405 > >Subject: Religion - > Spirituality > >To: > > > > Dear all, > > > > trying to define the difference between > > beeing religious and spiritual. > > > > I do have an idea but need clarification. > > > > Warmest regards, > > > > Yours in Him > > > > Sandosham > > > > > > > the best and accurate description i heard: > > religious people fear hell. > spiritual people had already been there. > > respectfully, > yosy > Dear Yosy, yes, this is a very accurate discription, and very clarifying one,thanks. Yours in Bhagavan, Sandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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