Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 WoW. You're pretty cool. Thanks Vrunda , Rafe Stoneman <rafaelstoneman wrote: > > the army taught me how to respect the structured world of society if you will, the rules that are created by man, but Grace, perhaps is understood only when everything is unlearned > look at the new born child; look at the desireless heart; look at the animal kingdom- > all are expressions of Grace > > > > > ________________________________ > PV <yvpy > > Friday, July 17, 2009 10:44:45 AM > Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Speaking Tree - Spirituality - LI > > > Is it being in the army that taught you grace? I ask without any meaning beyond those words. I had a student, very petite, but she had such a temper, such a temper - we were always at odds, till another student, much older than me, or maybe my age decided she had something against me. At one of numerous outbursts from my older student, the petite soldier one day was ready to jump at her throat - to protect me! I saw grace plainly in her that day. I asked her one day why she would go back - she had expressed not wanting to, earlier to the class. She said, if she did not , they, would find her and put her in prison. I thought about many different directions that conversation could go - I never met her again. She never came to contest her incomplete grade. > > Thanks > Vrunda > > , " rafaelstoneman " <rafaelstoneman@ ....> wrote: > > > > Thanks for this link. > > > > The light of Grace shines within the very core of the heart. > > Grace appears to enter the heart when we finally give up all attachments to a particular dream life; yet it is actually the mind sinking into the heart and knowing Grace has been there all along. > > > > , " Michael Bindel " <michael.bindel@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/LIFE- STYLE-Spirituali ty-Speaking- Tree-Everything- is-possible- with-divine- grace/articlesho w/4785741. cms > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 as a young man i thought being cool meant being free to act however instinct led know I know being cool is remaining in equal heart space with all living beings unity is equality is oneness PV <yvpy Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:43:39 AM Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp WoW. You're pretty cool.ThanksVrunda, Rafe Stoneman <rafaelstoneman@ ....> wrote:>> the army taught me how to respect the structured world of society if you will, the rules that are created by man, but Grace, perhaps is understood only when everything is unlearned> look at the new born child; look at the desireless heart; look at the animal kingdom-> all are expressions of Grace> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> PV <yvpy.>> > Friday, July 17, 2009 10:44:45 AM> Subject: Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Speaking Tree - Spirituality - LI> > > Is it being in the army that taught you grace? I ask without any meaning beyond those words. I had a student, very petite, but she had such a temper, such a temper - we were always at odds, till another student, much older than me, or maybe my age decided she had something against me. At one of numerous outbursts from my older student, the petite soldier one day was ready to jump at her throat - to protect me! I saw grace plainly in her that day. I asked her one day why she would go back - she had expressed not wanting to, earlier to the class. She said, if she did not , they, would find her and put her in prison. I thought about many different directions that conversation could go - I never met her again. She never came to contest her incomplete grade.> > Thanks> Vrunda> > , "rafaelstoneman" <rafaelstoneman@ ...> wrote:> >> > Thanks for this link. > > > > The light of Grace shines within the very core of the heart. > > Grace appears to enter the heart when we finally give up all attachments to a particular dream life; yet it is actually the mind sinking into the heart and knowing Grace has been there all along.> > > > , "Michael Bindel" <michael.bindel@ > wrote:> > >> > > > > > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/LIFE- STYLE-Spirituali ty-Speaking- Tree-Everything- is-possible- with-divine- grace/articlesho w/4785741. cms> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Rafe shabbat shalom your words are good how do put them in practice moment to moment in Sri Ramana Maharshi michael - Rafe Stoneman Friday, July 17, 2009 8:52 PM Re: Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp as a young man i thought being cool meant being free to act however instinct led know I know being cool is remaining in equal heart space with all living beings unity is equality is oneness PV <yvpy Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:43:39 AM Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp WoW. You're pretty cool.ThanksVrunda, Rafe Stoneman <rafaelstoneman@ ....> wrote:>> the army taught me how to respect the structured world of society if you will, the rules that are created by man, but Grace, perhaps is understood only when everything is unlearned> look at the new born child; look at the desireless heart; look at the animal kingdom-> all are expressions of Grace> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> PV <yvpy.>> > Friday, July 17, 2009 10:44:45 AM> Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Speaking Tree - Spirituality - LI> > > Is it being in the army that taught you grace? I ask without any meaning beyond those words. I had a student, very petite, but she had such a temper, such a temper - we were always at odds, till another student, much older than me, or maybe my age decided she had something against me. At one of numerous outbursts from my older student, the petite soldier one day was ready to jump at her throat - to protect me! I saw grace plainly in her that day. I asked her one day why she would go back - she had expressed not wanting to, earlier to the class. She said, if she did not , they, would find her and put her in prison. I thought about many different directions that conversation could go - I never met her again. She never came to contest her incomplete grade.> > Thanks> Vrunda> > , "rafaelstoneman" <rafaelstoneman@ ...> wrote:> >> > Thanks for this link. > > > > The light of Grace shines within the very core of the heart. > > Grace appears to enter the heart when we finally give up all attachments to a particular dream life; yet it is actually the mind sinking into the heart and knowing Grace has been there all along.> > > > , "Michael Bindel" <michael.bindel@ > wrote:> > >> > > > > > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/LIFE- STYLE-Spirituali ty-Speaking- Tree-Everything- is-possible- with-divine- grace/articlesho w/4785741. cms> > >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.18/2243 - Release 07/17/09 06:08:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 abiding in the heart is the practice not allowing distractions of future notions or concepts of past ideas steal one's attention requires supreme focus on the present and willingness to be honest moment to moment self inquiry gives way to being thoughtless and then love is in everything the best practice is constant attention on God, seeing all around you as God, serving God in all I have a wife and three sons, so that provides much opportunity to be of service in love and honesty Michael Bindel <michael.bindel Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:13:09 PMRe: Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp Dear Rafe shabbat shalom your words are good how do put them in practice moment to moment in Sri Ramana Maharshi michael - Rafe Stoneman Friday, July 17, 2009 8:52 PM Re: Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp as a young man i thought being cool meant being free to act however instinct led know I know being cool is remaining in equal heart space with all living beings unity is equality is oneness PV <yvpyFriday, July 17, 2009 11:43:39 AM Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp WoW. You're pretty cool.ThanksVrunda, Rafe Stoneman <rafaelstoneman@ ....> wrote:>> the army taught me how to respect the structured world of society if you will, the rules that are created by man, but Grace, perhaps is understood only when everything is unlearned> look at the new born child; look at the desireless heart; look at the animal kingdom-> all are expressions of Grace> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> PV <yvpy.>> > Friday, July 17, 2009 10:44:45 AM> Subject: Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Speaking Tree - Spirituality - LI> > > Is it being in the army that taught you grace? I ask without any meaning beyond those words. I had a student, very petite, but she had such a temper, such a temper - we were always at odds, till another student, much older than me, or maybe my age decided she had something against me. At one of numerous outbursts from my older student, the petite soldier one day was ready to jump at her throat - to protect me! I saw grace plainly in her that day. I asked her one day why she would go back - she had expressed not wanting to, earlier to the class. She said, if she did not , they, would find her and put her in prison. I thought about many different directions that conversation could go - I never met her again. She never came to contest her incomplete grade.> > Thanks> Vrunda> > , "rafaelstoneman" <rafaelstoneman@ ...> wrote:> >> > Thanks for this link. > > > > The light of Grace shines within the very core of the heart. > > Grace appears to enter the heart when we finally give up all attachments to a particular dream life; yet it is actually the mind sinking into the heart and knowing Grace has been there all along.> > > > , "Michael Bindel" <michael.bindel@ > wrote:> > >> > > > > > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/LIFE- STYLE-Spirituali ty-Speaking- Tree-Everything- is-possible- with-divine- grace/articlesho w/4785741. cms> > >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.18/2243 - Release 07/17/09 06:08:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:13:09 +0200 > " Michael Bindel " <michael.bindel >Subject: Re: Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp >To: > > > > Dear Rafe > > shabbat shalom > > your words are good > how do put them in practice > moment to moment > > in Sri Ramana Maharshi > > michael > > No thing which can be forgotten Is truly worth remembering. Anything that can be lost Does not deserve holding to... Giving up, surrendering self, Lost in love, aware of nothing As long as body lasts, Breath is the only Remembrance... Oh, the boundless grace! shabbat shalom michael, cool rafe and all! yosy nnb > > - > Rafe Stoneman > > Friday, July 17, 2009 8:52 PM > Re: Re: > Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp > > > as a young man i thought being cool meant being > free to act however instinct led > know I know being cool is remaining in equal heart > space with all living beings > unity is equality is oneness > > --------------- > > PV <yvpy > > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:43:39 AM > Re: > Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp > > > WoW. You're pretty cool. > > Thanks > Vrunda > > , Rafe > Stoneman <rafaelstoneman@ ....> wrote: > > > > the army taught me how to respect the structured > world of society if you will, the rules that are > created by man, but Grace, perhaps is understood > only when everything is unlearned > > look at the new born child; look at the > desireless heart; look at the animal kingdom- > > all are expressions of Grace > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > PV <yvpy.> > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 10:44:45 AM > > Re: > Everything is possible with divine grace - > Speaking Tree - Spirituality - LI > > > > > > Is it being in the army that taught you grace? I > ask without any meaning beyond those words. I had > a student, very petite, but she had such a temper, > such a temper - we were always at odds, till > another student, much older than me, or maybe my > age decided she had something against me. At one > of numerous outbursts from my older student, the > petite soldier one day was ready to jump at her > throat - to protect me! I saw grace plainly in her > that day. I asked her one day why she would go > back - she had expressed not wanting to, earlier > to the class. She said, if she did not , they, > would find her and put her in prison. I thought > about many different directions that conversation > could go - I never met her again. She never came > to contest her incomplete grade. > > > > Thanks > > Vrunda > > > > , > " rafaelstoneman " <rafaelstoneman@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for this link. > > > > > > The light of Grace shines within the very core > of the heart. > > > Grace appears to enter the heart when we > finally give up all attachments to a particular > dream life; yet it is actually the mind sinking > into the heart and knowing Grace has been there > all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 ---- Original message ---- >Date:  Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:34:05 -0700 (PDT) >  Rafe Stoneman <rafaelstoneman >Subject:  Re: Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp >To:  > > > > abiding in the heart is the practice > not allowing distractions of future notions or > concepts of past ideas steal one's attention > requires supreme focus on the present and > willingness to be honest moment to moment > self inquiry gives way to being thoughtless and then > love is in everything > the best practice is constant attention on God, > seeing all around you as God, serving God in all > I have a wife and three sons, so that provides much > opportunity to be of service in love and honesty > > There is one remembrance, Which is present always. A beacon in my mind’s depth. Thank god for this memory The one that says: “forget it all, beloved lose yourself in love†shabbat shalom all, yosy > --------------- > > Michael Bindel <michael.bindel > > Friday, July 17, 2009 1:13:09 PM > Re: Re: > Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp > > > Dear Rafe > > shabbat shalom > > your words are good > how do put them in practice > moment to moment > > in Sri Ramana Maharshi > > michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 cool means neat/pretty good/ beautiful. Comparing, drawing the analogy of the newborn with Grace was cool. , Rafe Stoneman <rafaelstoneman wrote: > > as a young man i thought being cool meant being free to act however instinct led > know I know being cool is remaining in equal heart space with all living beings > unity is equality is oneness > > > > > ________________________________ > PV <yvpy > > Friday, July 17, 2009 11:43:39 AM > Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp > > > WoW. You're pretty cool. > > Thanks > Vrunda > > , Rafe Stoneman <rafaelstoneman@ ...> wrote: > > > > the army taught me how to respect the structured world of society if you will, the rules that are created by man, but Grace, perhaps is understood only when everything is unlearned > > look at the new born child; look at the desireless heart; look at the animal kingdom- > > all are expressions of Grace > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > PV <yvpy@> > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 10:44:45 AM > > Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Speaking Tree - Spirituality - LI > > > > > > Is it being in the army that taught you grace? I ask without any meaning beyond those words. I had a student, very petite, but she had such a temper, such a temper - we were always at odds, till another student, much older than me, or maybe my age decided she had something against me. At one of numerous outbursts from my older student, the petite soldier one day was ready to jump at her throat - to protect me! I saw grace plainly in her that day. I asked her one day why she would go back - she had expressed not wanting to, earlier to the class. She said, if she did not , they, would find her and put her in prison. I thought about many different directions that conversation could go - I never met her again. She never came to contest her incomplete grade. > > > > Thanks > > Vrunda > > > > , " rafaelstoneman " <rafaelstoneman@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for this link. > > > > > > The light of Grace shines within the very core of the heart. > > > Grace appears to enter the heart when we finally give up all attachments to a particular dream life; yet it is actually the mind sinking into the heart and knowing Grace has been there all along. > > > > > > , " Michael Bindel " <michael.bindel@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/LIFE- STYLE-Spirituali ty-Speaking- Tree-Everything- is-possible- with-divine- grace/articlesho w/4785741. cms > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 thanks yosy, i always appreciate your heart felt poems that are direct to the truth of love "yosyflug" <yosyflug Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:09:19 PMRe: Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp ---- Original message ---- > Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:34:05 -0700 (PDT) > Rafe Stoneman <rafaelstoneman@ > > Re: Re: Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp > > > > > abiding in the heart is the practice > not allowing distractions of future notions or > concepts of past ideas steal one's attention > requires supreme focus on the present and > willingness to be honest moment to moment > self inquiry gives way to being thoughtless and then > love is in everything > the best practice is constant attention on God, > seeing all around you as God, serving God in all > I have a wife and three sons, so that provides much > opportunity to be of service in love and honesty > > There is one remembrance, Which is present always. A beacon in my mind’s depth. Thank god for this memory The one that says: “forget it all, beloved lose yourself in love†shabbat shalom all, yosy > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- > > Michael Bindel <michael.bindel@ t-online. hu> > @ . com > Friday, July 17, 2009 1:13:09 PM > Re: Re: > Everything is possible with divine grace - Sp > > > Dear Rafe > > shabbat shalom > > your words are good > how do put them in practice > moment to moment > > in Sri Ramana Maharshi > > michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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