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R A F E

 

 

your effort is most welcomed and am thankful

 

p l e a s e

 

try to find for yourself!!! a down to earth approach to this question

 

why Sadguru Sri Ramana Maharshi said (in my words of course)

 

NONDUALITY HAS TO BE LIVED INTERNALLY

NOT EXTERNALLY

 

 

WHY

 

please try "better" to find an answer to this and Rafe - following my "intuition" put this question to your dear wife

she is blessed.......

and she lives with you...

and she absorbs you....

 

 

go ahead and give a try

 

in GD michael TRUSTS absolutely

 

 

michael

 

 

 

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Rafe Stoneman

Friday, September 04, 2009 9:17 PM

Re: to all concerned

 

 

there is no one set answer that can be given...

 

to each the Self reveals Divine Purpose which can not be conferred or validated by another

 

when I trimmed trees, I was a tree trimmer

when I was in the Army, I was a soldier

when I go to college, I am a student

when I am with my kids, I am a father

 

throughout all of these conditions,

I am Self

 

But alas, for the shining supreme Self without attributes

who can dictate policy...

 

If there was any doubt in young Venkataraman's mind about quitting school and abandoning home at the age of 16... that doubt would be attributed to his Prabaradha karma

but alas, all doubts were schewed

 

and so we are here on satsang because of His Grace and veiless action

 

But His life is only relevant so as we may live our true life beyond the circumstances while in them

and free from creating new cravings for experience in time...

 

Forgive the spelling errors, and Michael, I did my best to keep it practical and simple... but the fingers took over and what comes comes... who is there to edit?

 

The rider of Yosi's dead donkey- Rafael, Rafe, Mr. Stoneman, or just plain Ass...

 

 

 

Michael Bindel <michael.bindel (AT) t-online (DOT) hu> (AT) (DOT) .comSent: Friday, September 4, 2009 11:17:54 AMRe: to all concerned

 

Dear Rafe

 

the real question behind all this... could be

 

how to put in practice our inner knowledge of NONDUALITY

knowing that nonduality must be lived INWARD and not outward.....

 

please elaborate... ..

if possible

 

b u t

 

as practical as possible.... .

 

 

in Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

michael

 

 

 

-

Rafe Stoneman

 

Friday, September 04, 2009 7:03 PM

Re: to all concerned

 

 

just because we know duality is an illustion does not mean that urinate in the check out line at the supermarket. .. not to say that if one does, they are not Self ... but for lives being lived in 'normalcy'.. . Self seems disinterested in any strange, crazy examples of non dual, realization. .. but as Ramesh pointed to... appearances can be quite deceptive... mind never really needs to concern itself with behavior in the end, as Self generates on its own all demonstrations in accordance with Its own nature... just as we don't 'choose' to be Gurus... people decided to make Ramana a Guru... He never sought any attention... Self was simply compassionate enough to live amongst others in such a natural way...

 

 

 

Michael Bindel <michael.bindel@ t-online. hu>Friday, September 4, 2009 9:49:41 AMRe: to all concerned

 

sorry Rafi

your answer is at the moment not understood

try to put in other words

 

tku

 

 

in Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

michael

 

-

Rafe Stoneman

 

Friday, September 04, 2009 5:56 PM

Re: to all concerned

 

 

As Gopi told in India: "we don't drive into on comming traffic just because we know all is Self"...

 

 

 

Michael Bindel <michael.bindel@ t-online. hu>Friday, September 4, 2009 8:14:46 AM to all concerned

 

Please explain as down to earth as possible what is meant with

 

outword behaviour must conform with the best standards of the society into which we are placed

 

 

because everything on earth said written spoken is sooo easily misinterepreted

 

 

 

in Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

 

michael

 

 

 

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