Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Always the seer must be traced Question 4: " I do not know how to worship. So kindly show me the way to worship. " Answer: " Is there a 'worshipper' and a 'worshipped' ? Find out the 'I', the worshipper; that is the best way. Always the seer must be traced. " ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******* Day by Day with Bhagavan, 28.12.45 Afternoon " Silence is the true upadesa. It is perfect upadesa. " (Ramana Maharshi) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010  Dear friend in IT ' Alan-Ji at first thank you sooo much for your wishes - giving the utmost to follow LIGHT more is not "in the cards"..... more later Alan please explain for all of us what is SILENCE really????? so many do misundertand this crucial START yours always in Bhagavan michael - Alan Jacobs Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:02 PM From Talks and Day By Day Always the seer must be traced Question 4: "I do not know how to worship. So kindly show me the way to worship."Answer: "Is there a 'worshipper' and a 'worshipped' ? Find out the 'I', the worshipper; that is the best way. Always the seer must be traced."************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *******Day by Day with Bhagavan, 28.12.45 Afternoon"Silence is the true upadesa.It is perfect upadesa."(Ramana Maharshi) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Michael, Silence is Mauna. Is not merely an absence of physical or mental noise. It is the motionless and utterly still silent centre of Being upon which nothing ever impinges. See Padamalai P.95 onwards. Love, Alan --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Michael Bindel <michael.bindel wrote: Michael Bindel <michael.bindelRe: From Talks and Day By Day Date: Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 13:59  Dear friend in IT ' Alan-Ji at first thank you sooo much for your wishes - giving the utmost to follow LIGHT more is not "in the cards"..... more later Alan please explain for all of us what is SILENCE really????? so many do misundertand this crucial START yours always in Bhagavan michael - Alan Jacobs Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:02 PM From Talks and Day By Day Always the seer must be traced Question 4: "I do not know how to worship. So kindly show me the way to worship."Answer: "Is there a 'worshipper' and a 'worshipped' ? Find out the 'I', the worshipper; that is the best way. Always the seer must be traced."************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *******Day by Day with Bhagavan, 28.12.45 Afternoon"Silence is the true upadesa.It is perfect upadesa."(Ramana Maharshi) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Michaelji, May I share my thought on silence? When the root thought the 'I' thought is absent or dissolves, all other thoughts too disappear. That state where in there in no `I' thought is the state of silence. May I add one more line?. When one experiences this state he will truely know what silence is. Sri Bhagavan in Who am `I' says this: For the mind that has gained skill in concentration, Self-enquiry becomes comparatively easy. It is by ceaseless enquiry that the thoughts are destroyed and the Self realized - the plenary Reality in which there is not even the `I' thought, the experience which is referred to as "Silence". The Self is that where there is absolutely no "I" thought. That is called "Silence". Talk 123 Mouna is said to be that state which spontaneously manifests after the annihilation of the ego. Paul Brunton described the thoughtless state that he experienced thus: "Finally it happens. Thought is extinguished like a snuffed candle. The intellect withdraws into its real ground, that is, consciousness working unhindered by thoughts. I perceive what I have suspected for sometime and what the Maharshi has confidently affirmed, that the mind takes its rise in a transcendental source. The brain has passed into a state of complete suspension as it does in deep sleep, yet there is not the slightest loss of consciousness. I remain perfectly calm and fully aware of who I am and what is occurring. Yet my sense of awareness has been drawn out of the narrow confines of the separate personality; it has turned into something sublimely all embracing. Self still exists, but it is a changed, radiant self. For something that is far superior to the unimportant personality which was I, some deeper, diviner being rises into consciousness and becomes me. With it arrives an amazing new sense of absolute freedom, for thought is like a loom-shuttle which always is going to and fro, and to be freed from its tyrannical motion is to step out of prison into the open air. Best wishes for a very happy Birthday Love Yours in Bhagavan Ramamohan , "Michael Bindel" <michael.bindel wrote:>> Dear friend in IT> '> > Alan-Ji> > > at first> > > thank you sooo much for your wishes - giving the utmost to follow LIGHT> more is not "in the cards".....> > more later> > > > > Alan> > > please explain for all of us> > > what is SILENCE> really?????> > so many do misundertand this crucial START> > > > yours always in Bhagavan> > > michael> > > - > Alan Jacobs > > Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:02 PM> From Talks and Day By Day> > > > Always the seer must be traced > > Question 4: "I do not know how to worship. So kindly show me the way to worship."> > Answer: "Is there a 'worshipper' and a 'worshipped' ? Find out the 'I', the worshipper; that is the best way. Always the seer must be traced."> > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *******> > Day by Day with Bhagavan, 28.12.45 Afternoon> > "Silence is the true upadesa.> It is perfect upadesa."> (Ramana Maharshi)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Ramamohan what a wonderful surprise - again this was an incredible birthday specially for me who really feels that "being born again" is in it a confirmation that something was wrong "last time" in the meantime due to the loving companionship of LOVING SOULS have understood that have to be more "tolerant" with myself. My question about "silence" was a reminder "only", that most have no idea what real SILENCE i s the absence of inner "talk" a n d of course the state of being in which the "i" thought is temporary lost thank you for your wishes and go ahead writing to my private address if you feel likewise am always ready to be in touch with those who really try their best to find GD in themselves in Sri Ramana Maharshi michael - Ramamohan Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:05 PM Re: From Talks and Day By Day Dear Michaelji, May I share my thought on silence? When the root thought the 'I' thought is absent or dissolves, all other thoughts too disappear. That state where in there in no `I' thought is the state of silence. May I add one more line?. When one experiences this state he will truely know what silence is. Sri Bhagavan in Who am `I' says this: For the mind that has gained skill in concentration, Self-enquiry becomes comparatively easy. It is by ceaseless enquiry that the thoughts are destroyed and the Self realized - the plenary Reality in which there is not even the `I' thought, the experience which is referred to as "Silence". The Self is that where there is absolutely no "I" thought. That is called "Silence". Talk 123 Mouna is said to be that state which spontaneously manifests after the annihilation of the ego. Paul Brunton described the thoughtless state that he experienced thus: "Finally it happens. Thought is extinguished like a snuffed candle. The intellect withdraws into its real ground, that is, consciousness working unhindered by thoughts. I perceive what I have suspected for sometime and what the Maharshi has confidently affirmed, that the mind takes its rise in a transcendental source. The brain has passed into a state of complete suspension as it does in deep sleep, yet there is not the slightest loss of consciousness. I remain perfectly calm and fully aware of who I am and what is occurring. Yet my sense of awareness has been drawn out of the narrow confines of the separate personality; it has turned into something sublimely all embracing. Self still exists, but it is a changed, radiant self. For something that is far superior to the unimportant personality which was I, some deeper, divi ner being rises into consciousness and becomes me. With it arrives an amazing new sense of absolute freedom, for thought is like a loom-shuttle which always is going to and fro, and to be freed from its tyrannical motion is to step out of prison into the open air. Best wishes for a very happy Birthday Love Yours in Bhagavan Ramamohan , "Michael Bindel" <michael.bindel wrote:>> Dear friend in IT> '> > Alan-Ji> > > at first> > > thank you sooo much for your wishes - giving the utmost to follow LIGHT> more is not "in the cards".....> > more later> > > > > Alan> > > please explain for all of us> > > what is SILENCE> really?????> > so many do misundertand this crucial START> > > > yours always in Bhagavan> > > michael> > > - > Ala n Jacobs > > Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:02 PM> From Talks and Day By Day> > > > Always the seer must be traced > > Question 4: "I do not know how to worship. So kindly show me the way to worship."> > Answer: "Is there a 'worshipper' and a 'worshipped' ? Find out the 'I', the worshipper; that is the best way. Always the seer must be traced."> > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* *******> > Day by Day with Bhagavan, 28.12.45 Afternoon> > "Silence is the true upadesa.> It is perfect upadesa."> (Ramana Maharshi)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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