Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 Hi Harsha: > Harsha what is the name of the other non-duality group? Iam something or other. Sam > > > The Teachings of Bhagavan > Sri Ramana Maharshi > in His Own Words > > CHAPTER ONE > > THE WORLD - REAL OR ILLUSION? > > He would not be entangled in apparent disagreements due > merely to a different viewpoint or mode of expression. > > Devotee: The Buddhists deny the world whereas Hindu > philosophy admits its existence but calls it unreal, isn't that so? > > Bhagavan: It is only a difference of point of view. > > D.: They say that the world is created by Divine Energy > (Shakti). Is the knowledge of unreality due to the veiling by > illusion (Maya)? > > B.: All admit creation by the Divine Energy, but what is > the nature of this energy? It must be in conformity with the > nature of its creation. > > D.: Are there degrees of illusion? > > B.: Illusion itself is illusory. It must be seen by somebody > outside it, but how can such a seer be subject to it? So, how can > he speak of degrees of it? > > You see various scenes passing on a cinema screen: fire > seems to burn buildings to ashes; water seems to wreck ships; > but the screen on which the pictures are projected remains > unburnt and dry. Why? Because the pictures are unreal and > the screen real. > > Similarly, reflections pass through a mirror but it is not > affected at all by their number or quality. > > In the same way, the world is a phenomenon upon the > substratum of the single Reality which is not affected by it in > any way. Reality is only One. > > Talk of illusion is due only to the point of view. Change > your viewpoint to that of Knowledge and you will perceive the > Universe to be only Brahman. Being now immersed in the world, > you see it as a real world; get beyond it and it will disappear and > Reality alone will remain.1 > > 1 Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, 446. > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 Sam, I just entered ' I AM....' and it came up. Namaste, Diane "sampas" <sampas Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 11:42:03 AM Non-duality Hi Harsha:> Harsha what is the name of the other non-duality group? Iam something or other.Sam> > > > >> > > > > The Teachings of Bhagavan> Sri Ramana Maharshi> in His Own Words> > CHAPTER ONE> > THE WORLD - REAL OR ILLUSION?> > He would not be entangled in apparent disagreements due> merely to a different viewpoint or mode of expression.> > Devotee: The Buddhists deny the world whereas Hindu> philosophy admits its existence but calls it unreal, isn't that so?> > Bhagavan: It is only a difference of point of view.> > D.: They say that the world is created by Divine Energy> (Shakti). Is the knowledge of unreality due to the veiling by> illusion (Maya)?> > B.: All admit creation by the Divine Energy, but what is> the nature of this energy? It must be in conformity with the> nature of its creation.> > D.: Are there degrees of illusion?> > B.: Illusion itself is illusory. It must be seen by somebody> outside it, but how can such a seer be subject to it? So, how can> he speak of degrees of it?> > You see various scenes passing on a cinema screen: fire> seems to burn buildings to ashes; water seems to wreck ships;> but the screen on which the pictures are projected remains> unburnt and dry. Why? Because the pictures are unreal and> the screen real.> > Similarly, reflections pass through a mirror but it is not> affected at all by their number or quality.> > In the same way, the world is a phenomenon upon the> substratum of the single Reality which is not affected by it in> any way. Reality is only One.> > Talk of illusion is due only to the point of view. Change> your viewpoint to that of Knowledge and you will perceive the> Universe to be only Brahman. Being now immersed in the world,> you see it as a real world; get beyond it and it will disappear and> Reality alone will remain.1> > 1 Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, 446. > > > > > > Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now! Quote
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 Thanks.. will try it..sam On Behalf Of Diane OShea dinsdag 23 februari 2010 20:45 Re: [ - Ramana Guru] Non-duality Sam, I just entered ' I AM....' and it came up. Namaste, Diane " sampas (AT) casema (DOT) nl " <sampas (AT) casema (DOT) nl> Tue, February 23, 2010 11:42:03 AM [ - Ramana Guru] Non-duality Hi Harsha: > Harsha what is the name of the other non-duality group? Iam something or other. Sam > > > > > > > > > > The Teachings of Bhagavan > Sri Ramana Maharshi > in His Own Words > > CHAPTER ONE > > THE WORLD - REAL OR ILLUSION? > > He would not be entangled in apparent disagreements due > merely to a different viewpoint or mode of expression. > > Devotee: The Buddhists deny the world whereas Hindu > philosophy admits its existence but calls it unreal, isn't that so? > > Bhagavan: It is only a difference of point of view. > > D.: They say that the world is created by Divine Energy > (Shakti). Is the knowledge of unreality due to the veiling by > illusion (Maya)? > > B.: All admit creation by the Divine Energy, but what is > the nature of this energy? It must be in conformity with the > nature of its creation. > > D.: Are there degrees of illusion? > > B.: Illusion itself is illusory. It must be seen by somebody > outside it, but how can such a seer be subject to it? So, how can > he speak of degrees of it? > > You see various scenes passing on a cinema screen: fire > seems to burn buildings to ashes; water seems to wreck ships; > but the screen on which the pictures are projected remains > unburnt and dry. Why? Because the pictures are unreal and > the screen real. > > Similarly, reflections pass through a mirror but it is not > affected at all by their number or quality. > > In the same way, the world is a phenomenon upon the > substratum of the single Reality which is not affected by it in > any way. Reality is only One. > > Talk of illusion is due only to the point of view. Change > your viewpoint to that of Knowledge and you will perceive the > Universe to be only Brahman. Being now immersed in the world, > you see it as a real world; get beyond it and it will disappear and > Reality alone will remain.1 > > 1 Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, 446. > > > > > > Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now! Quote
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