Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS If you are to walk on the path of Self Realisation by seeking the Source of your own Being, you cannot get very far by half-hearted attempts. There are no shortcuts. It requires complete dedication to the ideal and strenuous, life long effort in pursuit of `That'. Unless you come to understand that the purpose and goal of life is to Realise the Self, you cannot, in truth, make any meaningful progress, or expect to make much progress. Bhagavan has said those few who have succeeded in this life time owe their success to perseverance. That means day in and day out effort, unrelenting. So whatever method you take up, you have to do sincerely and steadily, for a whole lifetime, if need be. The path to Self Realisation is a vocation in life, not something we just take up at intervals. Spiritual pursuit must be as vital and natural to one as eating and breathing. Once we are clear about this point and attempt to realise the Truth with all our heart, Almighty God comes forward and guides us. He makes the situations in our life conducive to spiritual progress. But we cannot judge this progress easily. No effort ever goes in vain. And if we strive relentlessly, His Grace will take hold of us and carry us to the goal. This is what all true Sadhaks have to do to attain Self Realisation. If you are unable to commit yourself to this ideal, then pray to God or Bhagavan, to bless and inspire you with sincere determination. That is all that is within your power. Surrender to him wholeheartedly, and await his Grace. Also think about the ephemeral nature of all things in life, your experiences, your joys and sorrows- how you are always seeking to grasp a bit of happiness from pursuing and fulfilling desires, but only experience short-lived pleasures in the end, followed by more desires and pursuits. This is an endless cycle that replays itself, life after life, birth after birth. Be clear about this, reflect on the underlying Reality and seek it. No one can do this for you. Start now with a determined, unrelenting effort. That is the only way. By Dennis Hartell, Editor of `The Maharshi' writing in the NewsLetter of th Ramana Maharshi Retreat centre, Nova Scotia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 On 06/03/2010 18:43, tigersjaws wrote: THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS If you are to walk on the path of Self Realisation by seeking the Source of your own Being, you cannot get very far by half-hearted attempts. There are no shortcuts. It requires complete dedication to the ideal and strenuous, life long effort in pursuit of `That'. Unless you come to understand that the purpose and goal of life is to Realise the Self, you cannot, in truth, make any meaningful progress, or expect to make much progress. Bhagavan has said those few who have succeeded in this life time owe their success to perseverance. That means day in and day out effort, unrelenting. So whatever method you take up, you have to do sincerely and steadily, for a whole lifetime, if need be. The path to Self Realisation is a vocation in life, not something we just take up at intervals. Spiritual pursuit must be as vital and natural to one as eating and breathing. Once we are clear about this point and attempt to realise the Truth with all our heart, Almighty God comes forward and guides us. He makes the situations in our life conducive to spiritual progress. But we cannot judge this progress easily. No effort ever goes in vain. And if we strive relentlessly, His Grace will take hold of us and carry us to the goal. This is what all true Sadhaks have to do to attain Self Realisation. If you are unable to commit yourself to this ideal, then pray to God or Bhagavan, to bless and inspire you with sincere determination. That is all that is within your power. Surrender to him wholeheartedly, and await his Grace. Also think about the ephemeral nature of all things in life, your experiences, your joys and sorrows- how you are always seeking to grasp a bit of happiness from pursuing and fulfilling desires, but only experience short-lived pleasures in the end, followed by more desires and pursuits. This is an endless cycle that replays itself, life after life, birth after birth. Be clear about this, reflect on the underlying Reality and seek it. No one can do this for you. Start now with a determined, unrelenting effort. That is the only way. By Dennis Hartell, Editor of `The Maharshi' writing in the NewsLetter of th Ramana Maharshi Retreat centre, Nova Scotia _ hehehehe oh yes, no shortcuts! this is what i tell my kids and friends: do not ever try. life is too short for that. my dear, decide: either you do - and then do the best you can – or do not do at all. and whatever you do do it wholeheartedly, not minding the result. if you fail, and want to – do it again. and again. but never, never try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Dear Yosy, Nice poem- good advice too- thanks. Love, Alan--- On Sat, 6/3/10, Yosy <yosyflug wrote: Yosy <yosyflugRe: THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 16:56 On 06/03/2010 18:43, tigersjaws wrote: THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTSIf you are to walk on the path of Self Realisation by seeking the Source of your own Being, you cannot get very far by half-hearted attempts.There are no shortcuts.It requires complete dedication to the ideal and strenuous, life long effort in pursuit of `That'.Unless you come to understand that the purpose and goal of life is to Realise the Self, you cannot, in truth, make any meaningful progress, or expect to make much progress.Bhagavan has said those few who have succeeded in this life time owe their success to perseverance.That means day in and day out effort, unrelenting.So whatever method you take up, you have to do sincerely and steadily, for a whole lifetime, if need be.The path to Self Realisation is a vocation in life, not something we just take up at intervals. Spiritual pursuit must be as vital and natural to one as eating and breathing.Once we are clear about this point and attempt to realise the Truth with all our heart, Almighty God comes forward and guides us. He makes the situations in our life conducive to spiritual progress.But we cannot judge this progress easily. No effort ever goes in vain. And if we strive relentlessly, His Grace will take hold of us and carry us to the goal. This is what all true Sadhaks have to do to attain Self Realisation.If you are unable to commit yourself to this ideal, then pray to God or Bhagavan, to bless and inspire you with sincere determination.That is all that is within your power. Surrender to him wholeheartedly, and await his Grace.Also think about the ephemeral nature of all things in life, your experiences, your joys and sorrows- how you are always seeking to grasp a bit of happiness from pursuing and fulfilling desires, but only experience short-lived pleasures in the end, followed by more desires and pursuits.This is an endless cycle that replays itself, life after life, birth after birth.Be clear about this, reflect on the underlying Reality and seek it.No one can do this for you.Start now with a determined, unrelenting effort. That is the only way.By Dennis Hartell, Editor of `The Maharshi' writing in the NewsLetter of th Ramana Maharshi Retreat centre, Nova Scotia _hehehehe oh yes, no shortcuts! this is what i tell my kids and friends: do not ever try.life is too short for that. my dear, decide:either you do - and thendo the best you can – or do not do at all. and whatever you dodo it wholeheartedly, not minding the result. if you fail, and want to – do it again. and again. but never, never try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Dear Tigerjaws what a fitting name for one on the way back home like Sadguru Sri Ramana Maharshi stated its like being in the mouth of a crodile or tiger... what a wonderfu article by Dennis Hartell if by chance you have got this mailaddress please let me know tku again in Sri Ramana Maharshi michael - tigersjaws Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:43 PM THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTSIf you are to walk on the path of Self Realisation by seeking the Source of your own Being, you cannot get very far by half-hearted attempts.There are no shortcuts.It requires complete dedication to the ideal and strenuous, life long effort in pursuit of `That'.Unless you come to understand that the purpose and goal of life is to Realise the Self, you cannot, in truth, make any meaningful progress, or expect to make much progress.Bhagavan has said those few who have succeeded in this life time owe their success to perseverance.That means day in and day out effort, unrelenting.So whatever method you take up, you have to do sincerely and steadily, for a whole lifetime, if need be.The path to Self Realisation is a vocation in life, not something we just take up at intervals. Spiritual pursuit must be as vital and natural to one as eating and breathing.Once we are clear about this point and attempt to realise the Truth with all our heart, Almighty God comes forward and guides us. He makes the situations in our life conducive to spiritual progress.But we cannot judge this progress easily. No effort ever goes in vain. And if we strive relentlessly, His Grace will take hold of us and carry us to the goal. This is what all true Sadhaks have to do to attain Self Realisation.If you are unable to commit yourself to this ideal, then pray to God or Bhagavan, to bless and inspire you with sincere determination.That is all that is within your power. Surrender to him wholeheartedly, and await his Grace.Also think about the ephemeral nature of all things in life, your experiences, your joys and sorrows- how you are always seeking to grasp a bit of happiness from pursuing and fulfilling desires, but only experience short-lived pleasures in the end, followed by more desires and pursuits.This is an endless cycle that replays itself, life after life, birth after birth.Be clear about this, reflect on the underlying Reality and seek it.No one can do this for you.Start now with a determined, unrelenting effort. That is the only way.By Dennis Hartell, Editor of `The Maharshi' writing in the NewsLetter of th Ramana Maharshi Retreat centre, Nova Scotia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Dear Michael, Look on the web for the Ramana Maharshi Retreat Centre, Novia Scotia. Love, Alan--- On Sat, 6/3/10, Michael Bindel <michael.bindel wrote: Michael Bindel <michael.bindelRe: THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 18:05 Dear Tigerjaws what a fitting name for one on the way back home like Sadguru Sri Ramana Maharshi stated its like being in the mouth of a crodile or tiger... what a wonderfu article by Dennis Hartell if by chance you have got this mailaddress please let me know tku again in Sri Ramana Maharshi michael - tigersjaws Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:43 PM THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTSIf you are to walk on the path of Self Realisation by seeking the Source of your own Being, you cannot get very far by half-hearted attempts.There are no shortcuts.It requires complete dedication to the ideal and strenuous, life long effort in pursuit of `That'.Unless you come to understand that the purpose and goal of life is to Realise the Self, you cannot, in truth, make any meaningful progress, or expect to make much progress.Bhagavan has said those few who have succeeded in this life time owe their success to perseverance.That means day in and day out effort, unrelenting.So whatever method you take up, you have to do sincerely and steadily, for a whole lifetime, if need be.The path to Self Realisation is a vocation in life, not something we just take up at intervals. Spiritual pursuit must be as vital and natural to one as eating and breathing.Once we are clear about this point and attempt to realise the Truth with all our heart, Almighty God comes forward and guides us. He makes the situations in our life conducive to spiritual progress.But we cannot judge this progress easily. No effort ever goes in vain. And if we strive relentlessly, His Grace will take hold of us and carry us to the goal. This is what all true Sadhaks have to do to attain Self Realisation.If you are unable to commit yourself to this ideal, then pray to God or Bhagavan, to bless and inspire you with sincere determination.That is all that is within your power. Surrender to him wholeheartedly, and await his Grace.Also think about the ephemeral nature of all things in life, your experiences, your joys and sorrows- how you are always seeking to grasp a bit of happiness from pursuing and fulfilling desires, but only experience short-lived pleasures in the end, followed by more desires and pursuits.This is an endless cycle that replays itself, life after life, birth after birth.Be clear about this, reflect on the underlying Reality and seek it.No one can do this for you.Start now with a determined, unrelenting effort. That is the only way.By Dennis Hartell, Editor of `The Maharshi' writing in the NewsLetter of th Ramana Maharshi Retreat centre, Nova Scotia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Dear Yosy wonderful to read your "poem" to your kids and friends this was the signpost i followed as good as possible - always and understandable most did not understand and agree with this thank you for this joy yours in Sri Ramana Maharshi michael - Yosy Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:56 PM Re: THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS On 06/03/2010 18:43, tigersjaws wrote: THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTSIf you are to walk on the path of Self Realisation by seeking the Source of your own Being, you cannot get very far by half-hearted attempts.There are no shortcuts.It requires complete dedication to the ideal and strenuous, life long effort in pursuit of `That'.Unless you come to understand that the purpose and goal of life is to Realise the Self, you cannot, in truth, make any meaningful progress, or expect to make much progress.Bhagavan has said those few who have succeeded in this life time owe their success to perseverance.That means day in and day out effort, unrelenting.So whatever method you take up, you have to do sincerely and steadily, for a whole lifetime, if need be.The path to Self Realisation is a vocation in life, not something we just take up at intervals. Spiritual pursuit must be as vital and natural to one as eating and breathing.Once we are clear about this point and attempt to realise the Truth with all our heart, Almighty God comes forward and guides us. He makes the situations in our life conducive to spiritual progress.But we cannot judge this progress easily. No effort ever goes in vain. And if we strive relentlessly, His Grace will take hold of us and carry us to the goal. This is what all true Sadhaks have to do to attain Self Realisation.If you are unable to commit yourself to this ideal, then pray to God or Bhagavan, to bless and inspire you with sincere determination.That is all that is within your power. Surrender to him wholeheartedly, and await his Grace.Also think about the ephemeral nature of all things in life, your experiences, your joys and sorrows- how you are always seeking to grasp a bit of happiness from pursuing and fulfilling desires, but only experience short-lived pleasures in the end, followed by more desires and pursuits.This is an endless cycle that replays itself, life after life, birth after birth.Be clear about this, reflect on the underlying Reality and seek it.No one can do this for you.Start now with a determined, unrelenting effort. That is the only way.By Dennis Hartell, Editor of `The Maharshi' writing in the NewsLetter of th Ramana Maharshi Retreat centre, Nova Scotia _hehehehe oh yes, no shortcuts! this is what i tell my kids and friends: do not ever try.life is too short for that. my dear, decide:either you do - and thendo the best you can – or do not do at all. and whatever you dodo it wholeheartedly, not minding the result. if you fail, and want to – do it again. and again. but never, never try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 this is true once we start beleiving in bhagavan automatically he will take care and create situation that we never ever imagine to turn inwards regards venkatesh --- On Sat, 6/3/10, tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs wrote: tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 10:13 PM THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTSIf you are to walk on the path of Self Realisation by seeking the Source of your own Being, you cannot get very far by half-hearted attempts.There are no shortcuts.It requires complete dedication to the ideal and strenuous, life long effort in pursuit of `That'.Unless you come to understand that the purpose and goal of life is to Realise the Self, you cannot, in truth, make any meaningful progress, or expect to make much progress.Bhagavan has said those few who have succeeded in this life time owe their success to perseverance.That means day in and day out effort, unrelenting.So whatever method you take up, you have to do sincerely and steadily, for a whole lifetime, if need be.The path to Self Realisation is a vocation in life, not something we just take up at intervals. Spiritual pursuit must be as vital and natural to one as eating and breathing.Once we are clear about this point and attempt to realise the Truth with all our heart, Almighty God comes forward and guides us. He makes the situations in our life conducive to spiritual progress.But we cannot judge this progress easily. No effort ever goes in vain. And if we strive relentlessly, His Grace will take hold of us and carry us to the goal. This is what all true Sadhaks have to do to attain Self Realisation.If you are unable to commit yourself to this ideal, then pray to God or Bhagavan, to bless and inspire you with sincere determination.That is all that is within your power. Surrender to him wholeheartedly, and await his Grace.Also think about the ephemeral nature of all things in life, your experiences, your joys and sorrows- how you are always seeking to grasp a bit of happiness from pursuing and fulfilling desires, but only experience short-lived pleasures in the end, followed by more desires and pursuits.This is an endless cycle that replays itself, life after life, birth after birth.Be clear about this, reflect on the underlying Reality and seek it.No one can do this for you.Start now with a determined, unrelenting effort. That is the only way.By Dennis Hartell, Editor of `The Maharshi' writing in the NewsLetter of th Ramana Maharshi Retreat centre, Nova Scotia Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Whole heartedness is the key... only "it" knows the proper time for our unfoldment...all blessing to our father...dave --- On Sun, 3/7/10, venkatesh ds <harsha_chaithra wrote: venkatesh ds <harsha_chaithraRe: THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS Received: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 6:56 AM this is true once we start beleiving in bhagavan automatically he will take care and create situation that we never ever imagine to turn inwards regards venkatesh --- On Sat, 6/3/10, tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk> wrote: tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk> THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTSSaturday, 6 March, 2010, 10:13 PM THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTSIf you are to walk on the path of Self Realisation by seeking the Source of your own Being, you cannot get very far by half-hearted attempts.There are no shortcuts.It requires complete dedication to the ideal and strenuous, life long effort in pursuit of `That'.Unless you come to understand that the purpose and goal of life is to Realise the Self, you cannot, in truth, make any meaningful progress, or expect to make much progress.Bhagavan has said those few who have succeeded in this life time owe their success to perseverance.That means day in and day out effort, unrelenting.So whatever method you take up, you have to do sincerely and steadily, for a whole lifetime, if need be.The path to Self Realisation is a vocation in life, not something we just take up at intervals. Spiritual pursuit must be as vital and natural to one as eating and breathing.Once we are clear about this point and attempt to realise the Truth with all our heart, Almighty God comes forward and guides us. He makes the situations in our life conducive to spiritual progress.But we cannot judge this progress easily. No effort ever goes in vain. And if we strive relentlessly, His Grace will take hold of us and carry us to the goal. This is what all true Sadhaks have to do to attain Self Realisation.If you are unable to commit yourself to this ideal, then pray to God or Bhagavan, to bless and inspire you with sincere determination.That is all that is within your power. Surrender to him wholeheartedly, and await his Grace.Also think about the ephemeral nature of all things in life, your experiences, your joys and sorrows- how you are always seeking to grasp a bit of happiness from pursuing and fulfilling desires, but only experience short-lived pleasures in the end, followed by more desires and pursuits.This is an endless cycle that replays itself, life after life, birth after birth.Be clear about this, reflect on the underlying Reality and seek it.No one can do this for you.Start now with a determined, unrelenting effort. That is the only way.By Dennis Hartell, Editor of `The Maharshi' writing in the NewsLetter of th Ramana Maharshi Retreat centre, Nova Scotia Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010  Dear David agree completely with your comments! please David forward me the email of your sister, so that i can forward the links. Incredible successtories by changing the eating habits. Of course best: change way of being plus way of eating..... love michael - DAVID BENTLEY Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:42 PM Re: THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS Whole heartedness is the key... only "it" knows the proper time for our unfoldment...all blessing to our father...dave --- On Sun, 3/7/10, venkatesh ds <harsha_chaithra (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: venkatesh ds <harsha_chaithra (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS Received: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 6:56 AM this is true once we start beleiving in bhagavan automatically he will take care and create situation that we never ever imagine to turn inwards regards venkatesh --- On Sat, 6/3/10, tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk> wrote: tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk> THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTSSaturday, 6 March, 2010, 10:13 PM THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTSIf you are to walk on the path of Self Realisation by seeking the Source of your own Being, you cannot get very far by half-hearted attempts.There are no shortcuts.It requires complete dedication to the ideal and strenuous, life long effort in pursuit of `That'.Unless you come to understand that the purpose and goal of life is to Realise the Self, you cannot, in truth, make any meaningful progress, or expect to make much progress.Bhagavan has said those few who have succeeded in this life time owe their success to perseverance.That means day in and day out effort, unrelenting.So whatever method you take up, you have to do sincerely and steadily, for a whole lifetime, if need be.The path to Self Realisation is a vocation in life, not something we just take up at intervals. Spiritual pursuit must be as vital and natural to one as eating and breathing.Once we are clear about this point and attempt to realise the Truth with all our heart, Almighty God comes forward and guides us. He makes the situations in our life conducive to spiritual progress.But we cannot judge this progress easily. No effort ever goes in vain. And if we strive relentlessly, His Grace will take hold of us and carry us to the goal. This is what all true Sadhaks have to do to attain Self Realisation.If you are unable to commit yourself to this ideal, then pray to God or Bhagavan, to bless and inspire you with sincere determination.That is all that is within your power. Surrender to him wholeheartedly, and await his Grace.Also think about the ephemeral nature of all things in life, your experiences, your joys and sorrows- how you are always seeking to grasp a bit of happiness from pursuing and fulfilling desires, but only experience short-lived pleasures in the end, followed by more desires and pursuits.This is an endless cycle that replays itself, life after life, birth after birth.Be clear about this, reflect on the underlying Reality and seek it.No one can do this for you.Start now with a determined, unrelenting effort. That is the only way.By Dennis Hartell, Editor of `The Maharshi' writing in the NewsLetter of th Ramana Maharshi Retreat centre, Nova Scotia Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010  Dear Venkatesh Namaste blessed you are to experience this! its COMPLETE SURRENDER that liberates us all in Sri Ramana Maharshi thank you for this mail and all your efforts - venkatesh ds Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:56 AM Re: THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS this is true once we start beleiving in bhagavan automatically he will take care and create situation that we never ever imagine to turn inwards regards venkatesh --- On Sat, 6/3/10, tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs (AT) (DOT) co.uk> THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 10:13 PM THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTSIf you are to walk on the path of Self Realisation by seeking the Source of your own Being, you cannot get very far by half-hearted attempts.There are no shortcuts.It requires complete dedication to the ideal and strenuous, life long effort in pursuit of `That'.Unless you come to understand that the purpose and goal of life is to Realise the Self, you cannot, in truth, make any meaningful progress, or expect to make much progress.Bhagavan has said those few who have succeeded in this life time owe their success to perseverance.That means day in and day out effort, unrelenting.So whatever method you take up, you have to do sincerely and steadily, for a whole lifetime, if need be.The path to Self Realisation is a vocation in life, not something we just take up at intervals. Spiritual pursuit must be as vital and natural to one as eating and breathing.Once we are clear about this point and attempt to realise the Truth with all our heart, Almighty God comes forward and guides us. He makes the situations in our life conducive to spiritual progress.But we cannot judge this progress easily. No effort ever goes in vain. And if we strive relentlessly, His Grace will take hold of us and carry us to the goal. This is what all true Sadhaks have to do to attain Self Realisation.If you are unable to commit yourself to this ideal, then pray to God or Bhagavan, to bless and inspire you with sincere determination.That is all that is within your power. Surrender to him wholeheartedly, and await his Grace.Also think about the ephemeral nature of all things in life, your experiences, your joys and sorrows- how you are always seeking to grasp a bit of happiness from pursuing and fulfilling desires, but only experience short-lived pleasures in the end, followed by more desires and pursuits.This is an endless cycle that replays itself, life after life, birth after birth.Be clear about this, reflect on the underlying Reality and seek it.No one can do this for you.Start now with a determined, unrelenting effort. That is the only way.By Dennis Hartell, Editor of `The Maharshi' writing in the NewsLetter of th Ramana Maharshi Retreat centre, Nova Scotia Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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