Ramana Maharshi's Teachings and Modern Scientific Thought By K. K. Nambiar

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The continuous quest Who Am I?, guided by the grace of Sri Bhagavan, who is always with us, will lead one to the heart center, the seat of Consciousness, which is neither within nor without, all pervading and eternal. This supreme awareness is all that IS, and abiding therein is the ultimate goal.

Let us now have a look at recent developments in scientific knowledge. At one time the world around us was supposed to consist of matter, made of molecules and atoms. Physicists chased them further and broke them down to nucleus, electrons, quanta, waves, particles, and fields. Einstein said that the universe of our experience consists of matter and energy in a space-time-continuum. He established the famous equation E = mc2, where C is a constant representing the velocity of light. Matter and energy became interchangeable. 

Max Planck, famous for his quantum theory, added a further dimension to this, stating that it is consciousness that is fundamental and that matter is a derivative of consciousness. As a corollary even space and time are only concepts of our conscious- ness. Thus scientists are veering round to the conclusion that since every object is a sum of its qualities and these qualities are perceived by us, the whole objective universe of matter and energy, atoms and stars does not exist except as a construction of consciousness.

Yoga Vashista says: " All things that exist everywhere are experienced by us; there is nothing here anywhere which has not been experienced by us. " Bhagavan has told us that the world as such is not real. It is real as Brahman or Consciousness. The world we see and experience with our senses is a product of the mind; the mind is a part of the ego, which rises from Pure Consciousness, which is the same as Reality. One has to realize That and just Be. 

— Ramana SmrtiSource: http://www.arunachala.org/newsletters/2009/?pg=sep-oct

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Thankyou very much for the posting. I like very much to read Ramana's words.

Today the context is of the world being real or not real. Even when one

understands Authenticity to some extent, there is still trouble to understand

the real and not real world. When there is intense sorrow, and one clearly sees

how one's own participation is part of the occurrence of sorrow, then the real,

not-real world can be understood better.

 

Thankyou very much.

Vrunda

 

, jvrsprasanth <jvrsprasanth wrote:

>

> The continuous quest Who Am I?, guided by the grace of Sri Bhagavan, who is

> always with us, will lead one to the heart center, the seat of

> Consciousness, which is neither within nor without, all pervading and

> eternal. This supreme awareness is all that IS, and abiding therein is the

> ultimate goal.

>

> Let us now have a look at recent developments in scientific knowledge. At

> one time the world around us was supposed to consist of matter, made of

> molecules and atoms. Physicists chased them further and broke them down to

> nucleus, electrons, quanta, waves, particles, and fields. Einstein said that

> the universe of our experience consists of matter and energy in a

> space-time-continuum. He established the famous equation E = mc2, where C is

> a constant representing the velocity of light. Matter and energy became

> interchangeable.

> Max Planck, famous for his quantum theory, added a further dimension to

> this, stating that it is consciousness that is fundamental and that matter

> is a derivative of consciousness. As a corollary even space and time are

> only concepts of our conscious- ness. Thus scientists are veering round to

> the conclusion that since every object is a sum of its qualities and these

> qualities are perceived by us, the whole objective universe of matter and

> energy, atoms and stars does not exist except as a construction of

> consciousness.

>

> Yoga Vashista says: " All things that exist everywhere are experienced by us;

> there is nothing here anywhere which has not been experienced by us. "

>

> Bhagavan has told us that the world as such is not real. It is real as

> Brahman or Consciousness. The world we see and experience with our senses is

> a product of the mind; the mind is a part of the ego, which rises from Pure

> Consciousness, which is the same as Reality. One has to realize That and

> just Be.

>

> †" Ramana Smrti

>

> Source: http://www.arunachala.org/newsletters/2009/?pg=sep-oct

>

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> à°ªà±à°°à°¶à°¾à°‚తౠజలసూతà±à°°à°‚

> à°ªà±à°°à±‡à°®à±‡ శాశà±à°µà°¤à°®à±

>

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Thankyou very much. I'll look it up.

Vrunda

 

, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

>

> Dear Vrunda,

>  

> I have written a longish essay on the Unreality of the World on Luthar.com

which you may find helpful.

> Warm regards,

> Alan (Jacobs)

>

> --- On Wed, 28/4/10, PV <yvpy wrote:

>

>

> PV <yvpy

> Re: Ramana Maharshi's Teachings and

Modern Scientific Thought By K. K. Nambiar

>

> Wednesday, 28 April, 2010, 21:42

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Thankyou very much for the posting. I like very much to read Ramana's words.

Today the context is of the world being real or not real. Even when one

understands Authenticity to some extent, there is still trouble to understand

the real and not real world. When there is intense sorrow, and one clearly sees

how one's own participation is part of the occurrence of sorrow, then the real,

not-real world can be understood better.

>

> Thankyou very much.

> Vrunda

>

> , jvrsprasanth <jvrsprasanth@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > The continuous quest Who Am I?, guided by the grace of Sri Bhagavan, who is

> > always with us, will lead one to the heart center, the seat of

> > Consciousness, which is neither within nor without, all pervading and

> > eternal. This supreme awareness is all that IS, and abiding therein is the

> > ultimate goal.

> >

> > Let us now have a look at recent developments in scientific knowledge. At

> > one time the world around us was supposed to consist of matter, made of

> > molecules and atoms. Physicists chased them further and broke them down to

> > nucleus, electrons, quanta, waves, particles, and fields. Einstein said that

> > the universe of our experience consists of matter and energy in a

> > space-time-continuu m. He established the famous equation E = mc2, where C

is

> > a constant representing the velocity of light. Matter and energy became

> > interchangeable.

> > Max Planck, famous for his quantum theory, added a further dimension to

> > this, stating that it is consciousness that is fundamental and that matter

> > is a derivative of consciousness. As a corollary even space and time are

> > only concepts of our conscious- ness. Thus scientists are veering round to

> > the conclusion that since every object is a sum of its qualities and these

> > qualities are perceived by us, the whole objective universe of matter and

> > energy, atoms and stars does not exist except as a construction of

> > consciousness.

> >

> > Yoga Vashista says: " All things that exist everywhere are experienced by us;

> > there is nothing here anywhere which has not been experienced by us. "

> >

> > Bhagavan has told us that the world as such is not real. It is real as

> > Brahman or Consciousness. The world we see and experience with our senses is

> > a product of the mind; the mind is a part of the ego, which rises from Pure

> > Consciousness, which is the same as Reality. One has to realize That and

> > just Be.

> >

> > Ñ‚Ð " Ramana Smrti

> >

> > Source: http://www.arunacha la.org/newslette rs/2009/? pg=sep-oct

> >

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> > Ñ€â–` " Ñ€â–`Ð' Ñ€â–`ирâ–`орâ–'Л Ñ€â–`нрâ–`Чрâ–`â•¡Ñ€â–`дрâ–'З

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> > Ñ€â–`крâ–'ÐÑ€â–`â–`Ñ€â–`╢рâ–`╛рâ–`Ð'Ñ€â–`дрâ–'Ð

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> > Ñ€â–`крâ–'ÐÑ€â–`â–`Ñ€â–'Зрâ–`орâ–'З

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