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Sanjay,

 

As Krushna is away can you let me know your understanding of

deduction of points for the Sun and Moon. Is it correct there is

NEVER any deduction for either of these, for ANY position of

aspect?. This is implied in the instructions for the new

worksheet. I was under the impression it was that they were not

deducted only if 12th Lord.

 

As you are the one who appears to have the best understanding of

the rules, it would be appreciated if you could inform members of

what you consider the points for each chart i.e the various

charts for Prince Charles, so that we could see whether we have

it correct or are misunderstanding some of the rules. Thanks

for all your efforts.

 

Ron.

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" Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg

 

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:45 AM

Re: Sun/Moon Points

 

 

Ron,

 

All 12th lords, if these contribute any positive points, have to have these

points annulled. This does not apply to Sun and Moon as according to

Krushnaji, these are not normal 12th house lords.

 

In other calculation of points, Sun and Moon are like other planets.

 

I am enclosing the summary sheet for Prince Charles' chart. The points are

exactly as you would get from the worksheet except for house 3. In this Sun

is the 12th lord and Saturn is lord of E. Saturn has 4 points and house for

which it is lord of D or E, it should get the points for Sun and Mars. The

automatic worksheet, as explained, does not distinguish between the

luminaries and the other planets so it has not given points for the Sun as

it is 12th lord. I have manually entered the points to get to the correct

total for Saturn.

 

Please ask if there is something not clear.

 

Sanjay

 

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" Ron Gaunt " <arjee

 

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:33 AM

Sun/Moon Points

 

 

Sanjay,

 

As Krushna is away can you let me know your understanding of

deduction of points for the Sun and Moon. Is it correct there is

NEVER any deduction for either of these, for ANY position of

aspect?. This is implied in the instructions for the new

worksheet. I was under the impression it was that they were not

deducted only if 12th Lord.

 

As you are the one who appears to have the best understanding of

the rules, it would be appreciated if you could inform members of

what you consider the points for each chart i.e the various

charts for Prince Charles, so that we could see whether we have

it correct or are misunderstanding some of the rules. Thanks

for all your efforts.

 

Ron.

 

 

 

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On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:36:19 +0700, you wrote:

 

Sanjay,

 

Thanks for the Worksheet. I think I must have missed some of the

mailings while I was away, because I am somewhat confused about

the points allocation for planets in fourth place from natal

planets. Originally it was stated that 'if the planets in the

Row 1 has LESS than 4 points add the points from Row 3'. It was

always the most malefic i.e. only ONE planet even if there were

more planets in the same position. Now I note from your reply

below that planets having 4 points in Row 1 can have points

added. Also there are obviously circumstances when more than

one planet can add points. Would you please let me know the

current rules on this. Thanks.

 

Ron

 

>

>-

> " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg

>

>Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:45 AM

>Re: Sun/Moon Points

>

>

>Ron,

>

>All 12th lords, if these contribute any positive points, have to have these

>points annulled. This does not apply to Sun and Moon as according to

>Krushnaji, these are not normal 12th house lords.

>

>In other calculation of points, Sun and Moon are like other planets.

>

>I am enclosing the summary sheet for Prince Charles' chart. The points are

>exactly as you would get from the worksheet except for house 3. In this Sun

>is the 12th lord and Saturn is lord of E. Saturn has 4 points and house for

>which it is lord of D or E, it should get the points for Sun and Mars. The

>automatic worksheet, as explained, does not distinguish between the

>luminaries and the other planets so it has not given points for the Sun as

>it is 12th lord. I have manually entered the points to get to the correct

>total for Saturn.

>

>Please ask if there is something not clear.

>

>Sanjay

>

>-

> " Ron Gaunt " <arjee

>

>Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:33 AM

> Sun/Moon Points

>

>

>Sanjay,

>

>As Krushna is away can you let me know your understanding of

>deduction of points for the Sun and Moon. Is it correct there is

>NEVER any deduction for either of these, for ANY position of

>aspect?. This is implied in the instructions for the new

>worksheet. I was under the impression it was that they were not

>deducted only if 12th Lord.

>

>As you are the one who appears to have the best understanding of

>the rules, it would be appreciated if you could inform members of

>what you consider the points for each chart i.e the various

>charts for Prince Charles, so that we could see whether we have

>it correct or are misunderstanding some of the rules. Thanks

>for all your efforts.

>

>Ron.

>

>

>

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Ron,

 

As you would notice from the worksheet example sent to you, Saturn is

getting points from the planets in the 4th house only when it is the lord of

D or E. In other cases, it is not getting the points.

 

Regarding the malefic nature, yes, only the malefic planet gets the points.

But if there are 2 or more planets in the 4th for it, it would get points

from all these planets. If there is another planet with this malefic planet,

that one gets nothing.

 

Hope it is somewhat clearer.

 

Sanjay

 

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" Ron Gaunt " <arjee

 

Thursday, February 15, 2001 8:38 AM

Re: Fw: Sun/Moon Points

 

 

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:36:19 +0700, you wrote:

 

Sanjay,

 

Thanks for the Worksheet. I think I must have missed some of the

mailings while I was away, because I am somewhat confused about

the points allocation for planets in fourth place from natal

planets. Originally it was stated that 'if the planets in the

Row 1 has LESS than 4 points add the points from Row 3'. It was

always the most malefic i.e. only ONE planet even if there were

more planets in the same position. Now I note from your reply

below that planets having 4 points in Row 1 can have points

added. Also there are obviously circumstances when more than

one planet can add points. Would you please let me know the

current rules on this. Thanks.

 

Ron

 

>

>-

> " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg

>

>Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:45 AM

>Re: Sun/Moon Points

>

>

>Ron,

>

>All 12th lords, if these contribute any positive points, have to have these

>points annulled. This does not apply to Sun and Moon as according to

>Krushnaji, these are not normal 12th house lords.

>

>In other calculation of points, Sun and Moon are like other planets.

>

>I am enclosing the summary sheet for Prince Charles' chart. The points are

>exactly as you would get from the worksheet except for house 3. In this Sun

>is the 12th lord and Saturn is lord of E. Saturn has 4 points and house for

>which it is lord of D or E, it should get the points for Sun and Mars. The

>automatic worksheet, as explained, does not distinguish between the

>luminaries and the other planets so it has not given points for the Sun as

>it is 12th lord. I have manually entered the points to get to the correct

>total for Saturn.

>

>Please ask if there is something not clear.

>

>Sanjay

>

>-

> " Ron Gaunt " <arjee

>

>Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:33 AM

> Sun/Moon Points

>

>

>Sanjay,

>

>As Krushna is away can you let me know your understanding of

>deduction of points for the Sun and Moon. Is it correct there is

>NEVER any deduction for either of these, for ANY position of

>aspect?. This is implied in the instructions for the new

>worksheet. I was under the impression it was that they were not

>deducted only if 12th Lord.

>

>As you are the one who appears to have the best understanding of

>the rules, it would be appreciated if you could inform members of

>what you consider the points for each chart i.e the various

>charts for Prince Charles, so that we could see whether we have

>it correct or are misunderstanding some of the rules. Thanks

>for all your efforts.

>

>Ron.

>

>

>

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