Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 Dear Krushna and List Members, I’m pressed for time (story of my life these days L ) so I’m submitting my answers to Exercise 6 now – I may be off the wall totally, however, I will submit my findings/reasons for these choices if I am correct. Chart 1 – The Libra rising chart is the chart I have chosen for the woman who lost her spouse on July 17, 1992 during a Ketu/Sun dasha. Chart 2 – the Pisces rising chart is the chart I have chosen for the death of the native, which I believe occurred on April 15, 1991, during a Venus/Moon dasha. Looking forward to the feedback of the others, and also looking forward to more study time. ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Dear Krushna and List Members, I thought I would give just a few reasons as to why I concluded that the dates below may be the correct dates for each event and the correct lagna to support these events. This is by no means all-inclusive as far as “supporting” evidence, but just a few things for others to consider, and my reasoning. So my logic is as follows… Chart 1 – Libra rising chart – Woman lost her husband on July 17, 1992 during a Ketu/Sun dasha. I looked at these charts from a few angles – to include a System’s Approach take, a Classical approach, and Krushna’s Astakavarga teachings. All three seemed to support my findings – so I’ll list a few… Using Krushna’s system and 2nd house as the focal point for the death of the spouse (8th from the 7th) – the lords of D and E are Sun and Moon. Venus, the natural karaka for the 7th, must be spoiled to indicate an affliction to the marital happiness. Also, there must be signs pointing to the weakening of the functional karaka for the 7th , which is Mars. Lords of D and E for the 7th are Saturn and Mercury. Mars and Sun are natural samdharmi and secondary upachaya lords. Venus is lord of the 12th from B, and both natural and functional karakas for the 7th are afflicted by Saturn. Saturn, Mars, and Rahu aspect the 7th, Venus, and Sun in rasi, while Ketu conjoins Jupiter and aspects lagna and Mars. Functional karaka for the 2nd, Mercury, is 12th lord and badly placed in the 6th – in addition to being in the 12th from Venus and the Sun. the transit chart of July 17, 1992 has the 7th lord in the 8th, Venus, Mercury , and the Sun afflicted by Saturn, while mahadasha lord is posited in the 12th from the 12th lord, Sun, and Venus. Also karaka Venus in Krittika nakshatra is totally spoiled…Could go on - but check out the Navamsha for further support. Chart 2 – Pisces rising chart – Death of native on April 15, 1991 in Venus/Moon dasha. Venus is functional karaka while Mercury is natural karaka. 12th lord from B is Mercury. Secondary upachaya lords are Moon and Jupiter. Lagna lord Jupiter is posited in the 12th form the 8th. Mahadasha and 8th lord Venus is afflicted by nodes and Saturn. Debilitated Moon is weak and afflicted by nodes and 12th lord, Saturn. Natural karaka, Mercury, is afflicted by natural death lord, Saturn, in both rasi and transit, and aspected in rasi by Ketu. Mahadasha and 8th lord Venus is in rasi Jyeshtha nakshatra – while in transit it occupies the nakshatra of Krittika – both very difficult and troubling positions for 8th lord, and not good for longevity. In transit, lagna lord is afflicted by Saturn and Rahu, and is posited in debilitated Moon’s sign with Ketu. Ashtamsha (divisional 8th) shows rasi lagna badly placed in the 12th, while both functional and natural karakas are mutually conjunct, and both are afflicted by nodes. For further support, ashtamsha lagna lord is conjunct nodes and afflicted by Saturn. There is much more than this, but I’m out of time, and this covers a few of the basic points as to why I chose these dates and matched them with these specific lagnas. Sorry for any typos… Hope you find it useful…J ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ Dear Krushna and List Members, I’m pressed for time (story of my life these days L ) so I’m submitting my answers to Exercise 6 now – I may be off the wall totally, however, I will submit my findings/reasons for these choices if I am correct. Chart 1 – The Libra rising chart is the chart I have chosen for the woman who lost her spouse on July 17, 1992 during a Ketu/Sun dasha. Chart 2 – the Pisces rising chart is the chart I have chosen for the death of the native, which I believe occurred on April 15, 1991, during a Venus/Moon dasha. Looking forward to the feedback of the others, and also looking forward to more study time. ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 Dear Krushna and List Members, I corrected my typos from last week when I was hurrying, and/or made additions in CAPS…Thanks. ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ -----Original Message----- Sandy Crowther [sandy] Friday, March 09, 2001 8:56 AM To: RE: Exercise 6: My attempt Dear Krushna and List Members, I thought I would give just a few reasons as to why I concluded that the dates below may be the correct dates for each event and the correct lagna to support these events. This is by no means all-inclusive as far as “supporting” evidence, but just a few things for others to consider, and my reasoning. So my logic is as follows… Chart 1 – Libra rising chart – Woman lost her husband on July 17, 1992 during a Ketu/Sun dasha. I looked at these charts from a few angles – to include a System’s Approach take, a Classical approach, and Krushna’s Astakavarga teachings. All three seemed to support my findings – so I’ll list a few… AS MENTIONED EARLIER, I USED TWO ASHTAKAVARGA CHARTS HERE TO SEARCH FOR THE DEATH OF A HUSBAND – AND LOOKED AT CONDITIONS INVOLVING SECONDARY UPACHAYA LORDS AND CONDITIONS OF FUNCTIONAL AND NATURAL KARAKAS. 1.THE MARRIAGE CHART (7TH) AND 2.DEATH CHART FOR HUSBAND (2ND) I ALSO RESEARCHED THE NAVAMSHA – WHICH IS THE THIRD AND SUPPORTS THESE FINDINGS, BUT FINDINGA ARE NOT MENTIONED IN THIS ANALYSIS. I ELECTED TO RESEARCH THIS EVENT FIRST (DEATH OF SPOUSE) TO NARROW DOWN THE POSSIBILITIES BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO ASHTAKAVARGA CHARTS TO LOOK TO FOR CONFIRMATION – THE 7TH AND THE 2ND, AND AN ADDITIONAL CHART – THE NAVAMSHA. SO IT SEEMED LOGICAL THAT IF I FIGURED THE DEATH OF THE HUSBAND OUT AND WHOSE SIGN IT BELONGED TO (LIBRA OR VENUS), THE 2ND CHART WOULD FALL INTO PLACE MUCH EASIER IF ALL CONDITIONS SUPPORTED THE FINDINGS. AS MENTIONED EARLIER, MY TECHNIQUES WERE VARIED, BUT FOR ASHTAKAVARGA TECHNIQUES I FOCUSED MAINLY ON FUNCTIONAL AND NATURAL KARAKAS, AND UPACHAYA LORDS. THEN I CHECKED THE POINTS VALUE FOR THE SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS, SAMDHARMI PLANETS, AND CONNECTED THE DOTS. J Using Krushna’s system and 2nd house as the focal point for the death of the spouse (8th from the 7th) – the lords of D and E are SUN AND MARS FOR THE 2ND HOUSE. FOR HOUSE 7, NATURAL KARAKA IS VENUS WHILE FUNCTIONAL KARAKA IS MARS. Venus, the natural karaka for the 7th, must be spoiled to indicate an affliction to the marital happiness. Also, there must be signs pointing to the weakening of the functional karaka for the 7th , which is Mars. Lords of D and E for the 7th are Saturn and Mercury. Mars and Sun are natural samdharmi and secondary upachaya lords FOR THE 2ND HOUSE OF HUSBANDS DEATH. Venus is lord of the 12th from B, and both natural and functional karakas for the 7th (VENUS AND MARS) are afflicted by Saturn. JUPITER AND MERCURY ARE NATURAL AND FUNCTIONAL KARAKAS FOR THE 2ND. Saturn and Rahu aspect the 7th, Venus, and Sun in rasi, while Ketu conjoins Jupiter and aspects lagna, SATURN, and Mars. Functional karaka for the 2nd, Mercury, is 12th lord and badly placed in the 6th – in addition to being in the 12th from THE 4TH, Venus and the Sun. The transit chart of July 17, 1992 has the 7th lord in the 8th, Venus, Mercury , and the Sun afflicted by Saturn FROM THE 4TH, while mahadasha lord is posited in the 12th from the 12th lord, Sun, and 12TH FROM Venus AND MERCURY. Also karaka Venus in Krittika nakshatra is totally spoiled…Could go on - but check out the Navamsha for further support. Chart 2 – Pisces rising chart – Death of native on April 15, 1991 in Venus/Moon dasha. Venus is functional karaka while Mercury is natural karaka. 12th lord from B is Mercury, WHERE JUPITER TENANTS. Secondary upachaya lords are Moon and Jupiter. Lagna lord Jupiter is posited in the 12th from the 8th AND ASPECTING NATURAL KARAKA MERCURY. Mahadasha and 8th lord Venus JOINS THE DEBILITATED MOON AND is afflicted by nodes and Saturn. Debilitated Moon is weak and afflicted by nodes and 12th lord, Saturn. Natural karaka, Mercury, is afflicted by natural death lord, Saturn, in rasi, and aspected in rasi by Ketu. Mahadasha and 8th lord Venus is in rasi Jyeshtha nakshatra – while in transit it occupies the nakshatra of Krittika – both very difficult and troubling positions for 8th lord, and not good for longevity. In transit, lagna lord is afflicted by Saturn and NODES, and is posited in debilitated Moon’s sign with Ketu. Ashtamsha (divisional 8th) shows rasi lagna badly placed in the 12th, while both functional and natural karakas are mutually conjunct, and both are afflicted by nodes. For further support, ashtamsha lagna lord is conjunct nodes and afflicted by Saturn. There is much more than this, but I’m out of time, and this covers a few of the basic points as to why I chose these dates and matched them with these specific lagnas. Sorry for any typos… Hope you find it useful…J ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ Dear Krushna and List Members, I’m pressed for time (story of my life these days L ) so I’m submitting my answers to Exercise 6 now – I may be off the wall totally, however, I will submit my findings/reasons for these choices if I am correct. Chart 1 – The Libra rising chart is the chart I have chosen for the woman who lost her spouse on July 17, 1992 during a Ketu/Sun dasha. Chart 2 – the Pisces rising chart is the chart I have chosen for the death of the native, which I believe occurred on April 15, 1991, during a Venus/Moon dasha. Looking forward to the feedback of the others, and also looking forward to more study time. ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Dear Sandy, Your answer is correct, congratulations krushna , " Sandy Crowther " <sandy@t...> wrote: > Dear Krushna and List Members, > > I corrected my typos from last week when I was hurrying, and/or made > additions in CAPS…Thanks. > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy > http://www.jupitersweb.com/ <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> > > > Sandy Crowther [sandy@t...] > Friday, March 09, 2001 8:56 AM > > RE: Exercise 6: My attempt > > Dear Krushna and List Members, > > I thought I would give just a few reasons as to why I concluded that the > dates below may be the correct dates for each event and the correct lagna to > support these events. This is by no means all-inclusive as far as > " supporting " evidence, but just a few things for others to consider, and my > reasoning. So my logic is as follows… > > Chart 1 – Libra rising chart – Woman lost her husband on July 17, 1992 > during a Ketu/Sun dasha. > I looked at these charts from a few angles – to include a System's Approach > take, a Classical approach, and Krushna's Astakavarga teachings. All three > seemed to support my findings – so I'll list a few… > > AS MENTIONED EARLIER, I USED TWO ASHTAKAVARGA CHARTS HERE TO SEARCH FOR THE > DEATH OF A HUSBAND – AND LOOKED AT CONDITIONS INVOLVING SECONDARY UPACHAYA > LORDS AND CONDITIONS OF FUNCTIONAL AND NATURAL KARAKAS. > > 1.THE MARRIAGE CHART (7TH) AND > 2.DEATH CHART FOR HUSBAND (2ND) > > I ALSO RESEARCHED THE NAVAMSHA – WHICH IS THE THIRD AND SUPPORTS THESE > FINDINGS, BUT FINDINGA ARE NOT MENTIONED IN THIS ANALYSIS. > > I ELECTED TO RESEARCH THIS EVENT FIRST (DEATH OF SPOUSE) TO NARROW DOWN THE > POSSIBILITIES BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO ASHTAKAVARGA CHARTS TO LOOK TO FOR > CONFIRMATION – THE 7TH AND THE 2ND, AND AN ADDITIONAL CHART – THE NAVAMSHA. > SO IT SEEMED LOGICAL THAT IF I FIGURED THE DEATH OF THE HUSBAND OUT AND > WHOSE SIGN IT BELONGED TO (LIBRA OR VENUS), THE 2ND CHART WOULD FALL INTO > PLACE MUCH EASIER IF ALL CONDITIONS SUPPORTED THE FINDINGS. > > AS MENTIONED EARLIER, MY TECHNIQUES WERE VARIED, BUT FOR ASHTAKAVARGA > TECHNIQUES I FOCUSED MAINLY ON FUNCTIONAL AND NATURAL KARAKAS, AND UPACHAYA > LORDS. THEN I CHECKED THE POINTS VALUE FOR THE SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS, > SAMDHARMI PLANETS, AND CONNECTED THE DOTS. :-) > > Using Krushna's system and 2nd house as the focal point for the death of the > spouse (8th from the 7th) – the lords of D and E are SUN AND MARS FOR THE > 2ND HOUSE. FOR HOUSE 7, NATURAL KARAKA IS VENUS WHILE FUNCTIONAL KARAKA IS > MARS. Venus, the natural karaka for the 7th, must be spoiled to indicate an > affliction to the marital happiness. Also, there must be signs pointing to > the weakening of the functional karaka for the 7th , which is Mars. Lords of > D and E for the 7th are Saturn and Mercury. Mars and Sun are natural > samdharmi and secondary upachaya lords FOR THE 2ND HOUSE OF HUSBANDS DEATH. > Venus is lord of the 12th from B, and both natural and functional karakas > for the 7th (VENUS AND MARS) are afflicted by Saturn. JUPITER AND MERCURY > ARE NATURAL AND FUNCTIONAL KARAKAS FOR THE 2ND. Saturn and Rahu aspect the > 7th, Venus, and Sun in rasi, while Ketu conjoins Jupiter and aspects lagna, > SATURN, and Mars. Functional karaka for the 2nd, Mercury, is 12th lord and > badly placed in the 6th – in addition to being in the 12th from THE 4TH, > Venus and the Sun. The transit chart of July 17, 1992 has the 7th lord in > the 8th, Venus, Mercury , and the Sun afflicted by Saturn FROM THE 4TH, > while mahadasha lord is posited in the 12th from the 12th lord, Sun, and > 12TH FROM Venus AND MERCURY. Also karaka Venus in Krittika nakshatra is > totally spoiled…Could go on - but check out the Navamsha for further > support. > > Chart 2 – Pisces rising chart – Death of native on April 15, 1991 in > Venus/Moon dasha. Venus is functional karaka while Mercury is natural > karaka. 12th lord from B is Mercury, WHERE JUPITER TENANTS. Secondary > upachaya lords are Moon and Jupiter. Lagna lord Jupiter is posited in the > 12th from the 8th AND ASPECTING NATURAL KARAKA MERCURY. Mahadasha and 8th > lord Venus JOINS THE DEBILITATED MOON AND is afflicted by nodes and Saturn. > Debilitated Moon is weak and afflicted by nodes and 12th lord, Saturn. > Natural karaka, Mercury, is afflicted by natural death lord, Saturn, in > rasi, and aspected in rasi by Ketu. Mahadasha and 8th lord Venus is in rasi > Jyeshtha nakshatra – while in transit it occupies the nakshatra of > Krittika – both very difficult and troubling positions for 8th lord, and not > good for longevity. In transit, lagna lord is afflicted by Saturn and NODES, > and is posited in debilitated Moon's sign with Ketu. Ashtamsha (divisional > 8th) shows rasi lagna badly placed in the 12th, while both functional and > natural karakas are mutually conjunct, and both are afflicted by nodes. For > further support, ashtamsha lagna lord is conjunct nodes and afflicted by > Saturn. > > There is much more than this, but I'm out of time, and this covers a few of > the basic points as to why I chose these dates and matched them with these > specific lagnas. Sorry for any typos… Hope you find it useful…:-) > > > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy > http://www.jupitersweb.com/ <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> > > Dear Krushna and List Members, > > I'm pressed for time (story of my life these days :-( ) so I'm submitting my > answers to Exercise 6 now – I may be off the wall totally, however, I will > submit my findings/reasons for these choices if I am correct. > > Chart 1 – The Libra rising chart is the chart I have chosen for the woman > who lost her spouse on July 17, 1992 during a Ketu/Sun dasha. > > Chart 2 – the Pisces rising chart is the chart I have chosen for the death > of the native, which I believe occurred on April 15, 1991, during a > Venus/Moon dasha. > > Looking forward to the feedback of the others, and also looking forward to > more study time. > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy > http://www.jupitersweb.com/ <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Dear Krushna, Thanks…J I have a request…Could you please list the total planetary point values as you figured them for Exercise 6 for both Libra and Pisces charts, so we can compare our Worksheet values to your values? (Krushna, I’m not sure you are using the Worksheet, and you may be doing the values by hand?) Anyway, I request this because Sanjay (where are you anyway Sanjay? J ) has updated the Worksheet a number of times, and I think it would be highly beneficial for list members to compare their values to yours, to see if we are still in the ballpark Worksheet wise…Also because a couple of us did our analyses with the additional techniques of “other” system’s and arrived at the correct conclusion, we still need to know if we are calculating the points correctly for your ashtakavarga system. Sanjay and Donna have both put so much time and effort into the creation of this sheet – that I just want to make sure I’m using it properly…Thanks! ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ -----Original Message----- krushanain [krushanain] Monday, March 12, 2001 9:02 AM To: Subject: Re: Exercise 6: My attempt Dear Sandy, Your answer is correct, congratulations krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Dear Sandy, Just I have mailed my answer, only overwriting in the answer of Donna. She have prepared the worksheet very nicely. Frankly speaking, first time I have seen the worksheet, so closely. Realy it is a big job and must called as GOLDEN WORK. Donna very sincere member and working very hard for the group. Definitely she will put it in file section in proper and nice way. I must thank to all the members who have participated. Such reaction and participation increases my energy, and creats more interest in the group. krushna > " Sandy Crowther " <sandy > > >RE: Re: Exercise 6: My attempt >Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:12:03 -0500 > >Dear Krushna, > >Thanks…:-) > >I have a request…Could you please list the total planetary point values as >you figured them for Exercise 6 for both Libra and Pisces charts, so we can >compare our Worksheet values to your values? (Krushna, I’m not sure you are >using the Worksheet, and you may be doing the values by hand?) > > Anyway, I request this because Sanjay (where are you anyway Sanjay? :-) ) >has updated the Worksheet a number of times, and I think it would be highly >beneficial for list members to compare their values to yours, to see if we >are still in the ballpark Worksheet wise…Also because a couple of us did >our >analyses with the additional techniques of “other” system’s and arrived at >the correct conclusion, we still need to know if we are calculating the >points correctly for your ashtakavarga system. > >Sanjay and Donna have both put so much time and effort into the creation of >this sheet – that I just want to make sure I’m using it properly…Thanks! > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy >http://www.jupitersweb.com/ <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> > > >krushanain [krushanain] >Monday, March 12, 2001 9:02 AM > > Re: Exercise 6: My attempt > >Dear Sandy, >Your answer is correct, congratulations >krushna > > _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:12:03 -0500, you wrote: Respected Krushna, I second Sandy's request. It would be great if you would identify points for these and, all future charts so that we can check whether we are following the system. For Members: I for one am still somewhat confused by some of the 'rules'. Has anyone taken time to jot them down in notebook form? Ron >Dear Krushna, > >Thanks…:-) > >I have a request…Could you please list the total planetary point values as >you figured them for Exercise 6 for both Libra and Pisces charts, so we can >compare our Worksheet values to your values? (Krushna, I’m not sure you are >using the Worksheet, and you may be doing the values by hand?) > > Anyway, I request this because Sanjay (where are you anyway Sanjay? :-) ) >has updated the Worksheet a number of times, and I think it would be highly >beneficial for list members to compare their values to yours, to see if we >are still in the ballpark Worksheet wise…Also because a couple of us did our >analyses with the additional techniques of “other” system’s and arrived at >the correct conclusion, we still need to know if we are calculating the >points correctly for your ashtakavarga system. > >Sanjay and Donna have both put so much time and effort into the creation of >this sheet – that I just want to make sure I’m using it properly…Thanks! > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy >http://www.jupitersweb.com/ <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> > > >krushanain [krushanain] >Monday, March 12, 2001 9:02 AM > > Re: Exercise 6: My attempt > >Dear Sandy, >Your answer is correct, congratulations >krushna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 ..Dear Ron - For Members: I for one am still somewhat confused by some of the 'rules'. Has anyone taken time to jot them down in notebook form? I started doing a notebook, but have been swamped with trying to get the Upachaya program updated, and trying to get the exercises done and re-written so that they can be put in lesson form, plus various other projects with other lists. I will try to bring the notebook up to date as well, but you will have to give me a little time. . . Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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