Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Dear Margarita - This is a rather complicated exercice because we have four possibilities for each native and there are the events and the dates seem to agree in both ways. Wait a minute here. Aren't there only 2 possibilities for each native? CHART 1: 1. The person dies herself on April 15, 1991 in which case her dasa would have to be KETU -Venus. 2. The person dies herself on July 17, 1992, in which case here dasa would have to be VENUS-Sun. CHART 2: 3. Female loses her husband on April 15, 1991 in which case her dasa would have to be KETU-Sun 4. Female loses her husband on July 17, 1992 in which case her dasa would have to be VENUS -Mars I've been working on this all day under the above assumption. I'm trying to write up my analysis like a lesson so that it can be useful later on after I undoubedtly will have to make corrections on it. So, what are the other 4 possibilities? Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Respected Krushna and listmembers, This is a rather complicated exercice because we have four possibilities for each native and there are the events and the dates seem to agree in both ways. We know that on the 15th of april the Sun passes from Pisces into Aries. As we don't know at what time the event happend, it could be when Sun was in Revati and that's Mercury/Jupiter, or if the Sun was in Ashwini and that's Mars. On the 17th f july the Sun is in the first degrees of Cancer and that's Moon/Jupiter For both charts I looked at the 2nd and 8th as B Female 1 she is in ketu dasha and an event happened in ketu/ketu or ketu/sun Ketu depends on Jupiter and Mercury who will give results for him Jupiter becomes the lord of 3 and 6; it's not a good planet for Libra asc By taking the 2nd as B (death of husband) Jupiter becomes karaka for B and is in A Mercury, lord of A is in C, (the result) Sun is lord of D and in E and gives the results from houses 4th and 8th from his sign or his position. From his sign he gives results for house B and from his position also Sun transits in Punarvashu which belopngs to Jupiter and Moon Jupiter is strong as karaka for B and Moon is in B So I thinks her husband died on july 17 1992 Female 2 She's running a venus dasha and moon or mars bukthi For the 8th as B Venus is lord of 3 and 8 and also karaka for house B Jupiter and Moon are lords of houses D and E. are eager to give results. Mars also will try to give results in E Moon will give results for the 4th and 8th houses; this makes it B and C or 8th and 12th Jupiter, Venus, Moon and Saturn aspect either houses A or C and cannot give results But Mars can. Moon is samdharmi to Mars and as lord of D is eager to intervene. As her bukti comes first, she will act. Jupiter, Mercury and Mars have good points, so a transit through Revati or Ashwini can bring the results So she is supposed to die on april 15th 1991. I thought this solution looked best although I also found other arguments to make events happen otherwise; so I'm looking foreward to the right answer Best regards Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Dear Donna, Yes of course, once you have found the answer but as long as you don't know you have to explore the events for each date. So one person could die or lose her husband in april 91 or both those events could happen in july 92; so I thought that made four because we don't know which is which in the beginning. Well that's how I understood it and I found it very confusing and at one point I got everything mixed up. I've been working at this for hours and sometimes wonder if I'm really going to master this. Wait and see ! I admired your analysis and will try to go through it. I think it's a very good example for people who try to learn : stick to the system and the rules; once you master them you can swim more freely !! I still can't swim on my own, but I'm somewhere convinced (don't know why) that this system has a tremendous value as a predicting tool and that's what clients want. So I cling to it and hope someday to "swim" as Krushna does. Best regards Margarita Best regards Margarita - DQuinn12 Saturday, March 10, 2001 12:00 AM Re: 6 BA Dear Margarita - This is a rather complicated exercice because we have four possibilities for each native and there are the events and the dates seem to agree in both ways.Wait a minute here. Aren't there only 2 possibilities for each native? CHART 1: 1. The person dies herself on April 15, 1991 in which case her dasa would have to be KETU -Venus. 2. The person dies herself on July 17, 1992, in which case here dasa would have to be VENUS-Sun. CHART 2: 3. Female loses her husband on April 15, 1991 in which case her dasa would have to be KETU-Sun 4. Female loses her husband on July 17, 1992 in which case her dasa would have to be VENUS -Mars I've been working on this all day under the above assumption. I'm trying to write up my analysis like a lesson so that it can be useful later on after I undoubedtly will have to make corrections on it. So, what are the other 4 possibilities? Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Dear Margarita - Yes of course, once you have found the answer but as long as you don't know you have to explore the events for each date. So one person could die or lose her husband in april 91 or both those events could happen in july 92; so I thought that made four because we don't know which is which in the beginning. Don't feel bad. Once Krushna actually told us the dasa periods, it sort of narrowed down the possibilities, so that made it somewhat easier. >I've been working at this for hours and sometimes wonder if I'm really going to master this. You're going to be one of the best ones on the block, I guarantee it, because you;re putting the necessary time into it that just HAS to be done unfortunately for anything to become second nature as I'm sure this system is to Krushna. > I admired your analysis and will try to go through it. I think it's a very good example for people who try to learn : stick to the system and the rules Even if my answers are totally wrong, I'm really not concerned at this point. I'm sure Krushna can correct my mis-interpretations and misunderstandings about certain rules or steps that need to be done in order to succeed at a correct analysis. But the good thing is that the ground work is already there for a template and that's what will be the most valuable asset coming out of this lesson. > I still can't swim on my own, but I'm somewhere convinced (don't know why) that this system has a tremendous value as a predicting tool and that's what clients want. So I cling to it and hope someday to "swim" as Krushna does. You're doing just fine, Maragarita. I know you've certainly gained Krushna's, and all our respect by catching on to it a whole lot faster than alot of us have. But with so many outside projects and other lists to attend to, it can be hard to put one's concentration to one thing at the expense of all the others on a constant basis and that's the thing I need to do most in order to get this down pat. I know that I look forward to your interpretations everytime they come out, because I always learn something new or see certain rules from a different viewpoint and it helps me quite a bit. So keep up the good work. You're doing a pretty good swim already! ) Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Dear Margarita, Doc, and List Members, For this exercise Krushna gave us, we do have 6 definite possibilities to choose from– We have to figure out: First: What is the correct ascendant? (2 to choose from) For: Which event? (2 to choose from) On which date/dasha? (which after determining the date, you will have the correct dasha period) So one can have the “date” right but have chosen the wrong lagna, (or chart) or the wrong event…and all of the other possibilities combined – So there is quite a bit to take into consideration for determining the “correctness” in prediction all the way around...So the odds are 1 in 6 chances to get all possibilities correct for analysis…But after finding a strong fit for one – the second becomes a bit easier. J So to be correct ALL the way around, we have to match up the correct lagna with the correct event on the correct date/dasha…And we have 6 possibilities to tie together, into 1 completely correct answer…So parts of the combination for the answer can be right and parts wrong…Or all combinations can be right or all combinations can be wrong…Make sense? ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ -----Original Message----- Lettens [dmlettens] Saturday, March 10, 2001 2:32 AM To: Re: 6 BA Dear Donna, Yes of course, once you have found the answer but as long as you don't know you have to explore the events for each date. So one person could die or lose her husband in april 91 or both those events could happen in july 92; so I thought that made four because we don't know which is which in the beginning. Well that's how I understood it and I found it very confusing and at one point I got everything mixed up. I've been working at this for hours and sometimes wonder if I'm really going to master this. Wait and see ! I admired your analysis and will try to go through it. I think it's a very good example for people who try to learn : stick to the system and the rules; once you master them you can swim more freely !! I still can't swim on my own, but I'm somewhere convinced (don't know why) that this system has a tremendous value as a predicting tool and that's what clients want. So I cling to it and hope someday to " swim " as Krushna does. Best regards Margarita Best regards Margarita ----- Original Message ----- DQuinn12 Saturday, March 10, 2001 12:00 AM Re: 6 BA Dear Margarita - This is a rather complicated exercice because we have four possibilities for each native and there are the events and the dates seem to agree in both ways. Wait a minute here. Aren't there only 2 possibilities for each native? CHART 1: 1. The person dies herself on April 15, 1991 in which case her dasa would have to be KETU -Venus. 2. The person dies herself on July 17, 1992, in which case here dasa would have to be VENUS-Sun. CHART 2: 3. Female loses her husband on April 15, 1991 in which case her dasa would have to be KETU-Sun 4. Female loses her husband on July 17, 1992 in which case her dasa would have to be VENUS -Mars I've been working on this all day under the above assumption. I'm trying to write up my analysis like a lesson so that it can be useful later on after I undoubedtly will have to make corrections on it. So, what are the other 4 possibilities? Donna To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Thanks for your kind words. Yes, I hope we soon all swim together .... in the system Margarita - DQuinn12 Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:36 PM Re: 6 BA Dear Margarita - Yes of course, once you have found the answer but as long as you don't know you have to explore the events for each date. So one person could die or lose her husband in april 91 or both those events could happen in july 92; so I thought that made four because we don't know which is which in the beginning. Don't feel bad. Once Krushna actually told us the dasa periods, it sort of narrowed down the possibilities, so that made it somewhat easier. >I've been working at this for hours and sometimes wonder if I'm really going to master this. You're going to be one of the best ones on the block, I guarantee it, because you;re putting the necessary time into it that just HAS to be done unfortunately for anything to become second nature as I'm sure this system is to Krushna. > I admired your analysis and will try to go through it. I think it's a very good example for people who try to learn : stick to the system and the rules Even if my answers are totally wrong, I'm really not concerned at this point. I'm sure Krushna can correct my mis-interpretations and misunderstandings about certain rules or steps that need to be done in order to succeed at a correct analysis. But the good thing is that the ground work is already there for a template and that's what will be the most valuable asset coming out of this lesson. > I still can't swim on my own, but I'm somewhere convinced (don't know why) that this system has a tremendous value as a predicting tool and that's what clients want. So I cling to it and hope someday to "swim" as Krushna does. You're doing just fine, Maragarita. I know you've certainly gained Krushna's, and all our respect by catching on to it a whole lot faster than alot of us have. But with so many outside projects and other lists to attend to, it can be hard to put one's concentration to one thing at the expense of all the others on a constant basis and that's the thing I need to do most in order to get this down pat. I know that I look forward to your interpretations everytime they come out, because I always learn something new or see certain rules from a different viewpoint and it helps me quite a bit. So keep up the good work. You're doing a pretty good swim already! ) Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Dear Detective - For this exercise Krushna gave us, we do have 6 definite possibilities to choose from– We have to figure out: Technically,you're right, BUT. . . Krushna DID narrow the possibilities by giving us the Correct dasas with the correct dates. He said that the dasa for April 15, 1991 for one chart is Venus Main and Moon sub. The other chart for the same date is Ketu main, Venus sub. The July 17, 1992 date has the Ketu Main, Sun sub and for the other chart of the same date, it has Venus main, Mars sub. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Dear Detective - You just cannot assume that Chart 1 belongs to the first event listed? Then I guess that's exactly what I did do. Wrong assumption on my part. Oh well, live and learn. . . Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Dear Doc, My point is you STILL have to determine WHICH of these two dates (that he gave) for EACH sign corresponds with WHICH of these two events and WHICH of these two Ascendants. In other words, he did NOT state which Ascendant corresponds to which event…You just cannot assume that Chart 1 belongs to the first event listed… Hopefully you have seen my clumsy attempt at a Table, to point out what I am inferring. In other words, he gave us the two possible event dates for both Ascendants, but YOU must choose the CORRECT ASCENDANT, line it up with the CORRECT EVENT, and then line it up with the CORRECT DATE/DASHA…. I can’t explain this anymore – my vocal cords are twirling…J Detective Dear Detective - For this exercise Krushna gave us, we do have 6 definite possibilities to choose from– We have to figure out: Technically,you're right, BUT. . . Krushna DID narrow the possibilities by giving us the Correct dasas with the correct dates. He said that the dasa for April 15, 1991 for one chart is Venus Main and Moon sub. The other chart for the same date is Ketu main, Venus sub. The July 17, 1992 date has the Ketu Main, Sun sub and for the other chart of the same date, it has Venus main, Mars sub. Doc To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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