Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Dear Krushna and Group - OK, this may seem like a little bit of 'overkill' for this exercise and after all is said and done, it may be totally wrong, but what I really want to do is to try and establish some sort of a systematical approach by bringing in the worksheet in the Blind Chart anaylsis to illustrate how to use it as best as I can understand it myself at this point. I attempted to do that in this exercise although it became a little long ( 8 pages, sorry) due to the fact that there were several chart combinations to illustrate. Hopefully Krushna, if you will be so kind as to go thru it and make corrections and additions where necessary so that I can re-correct the mistakes that I'm sure I made and we can turn this into a helpful and methodical lesson to better understand the system. We need some sort of a step by step analytical process that we can follow each time, so that we can all arrive at the same conclusion in the end. Hopefully this will be a start. My guess BTW was that the first female died on April 15, 1991 in Ketu-Venus dasa and the second female's husband died on July 17, 1992 in a Venus Mars dasa. My logic started off very self confidently in a sane manner but at some point it dwindled down to a screeching halt due to brain cramps and severe eye ball twirling from too many hours of looking at this. If I start to sound like a dribbling idiot, welcome to my world. . . ) Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Dear Detective - I went over your analysis…And even though I’m still standing firm (by my dates) I can certainly appreciate all your work and charts Doc…And I hate to say this, but your eyeballs must have really been “twirling†over these charts because you made a few errors in timing - J (unless it’s me who has totally lost her mind! J ) See, I TOLD you my brain was fried. . . After I did all the charts I went back afterwards and re -filled the table that's headed "Possible outcomes" on the first page from just Chart 1 and Chart 2, to adding the ascendant to describe it better. I mistakenly reversed the ascendants on the table, but the chart should be fine, except for the typo on the date in the 2nd chart. I'm sure that won't be the last of my mistakes either! ) Thanks for bringing this to light, because I just over loaded myself with too much info without knowing the system well enough yet. Even if I'm totally wrong on the dates, I don't care because I can easily switch it around later to make a lesson out of it. This way, we can later use it as a sort of template to work out blind charts better. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Dear Doc and Group, I went over your analysis…And even though I’m still standing firm (by my dates) I can certainly appreciate all your work and charts Doc…And I hate to say this, but your eyeballs must have really been “twirling” over these charts because you made a few errors in timing - J (unless it’s me who has totally lost her mind! J ) The Dates of the Events are April 15, 1991 and July 17, 1992: Chart 1 – The Libra Chart – Her date of birth is April 20, 1954 On April 15, 1991, she runs a Ketu/Venus On July 17, 1992, she runs a Ketu/Sun (I think she lost her spouse on this date) THE LIBRA RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A VENUS MAHADASHA ON THESE DATES. *********************************************************************************************************************** Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, 1956: (not 1955 – right chart – just a typo) On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think this chart belong to the woman who died on this date.) On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars THE PISCES RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A KETU MAHADASHA ON THESE DATES. Can you re-check your dashas when your eyeballs return to their normal state because one of us is losing it!!! J Thanks Doc! Detective Dear Krushna and Group - OK, this may seem like a little bit of 'overkill' for this exercise and after all is said and done, it may be totally wrong, but what I really want to do is to try and establish some sort of a systematical approach by bringing in the worksheet in the Blind Chart anaylsis to illustrate how to use it as best as I can understand it myself at this point. I attempted to do that in this exercise although it became a little long ( 8 pages, sorry) due to the fact that there were several chart combinations to illustrate. Hopefully Krushna, if you will be so kind as to go thru it and make corrections and additions where necessary so that I can re-correct the mistakes that I'm sure I made and we can turn this into a helpful and methodical lesson to better understand the system. We need some sort of a step by step analytical process that we can follow each time, so that we can all arrive at the same conclusion in the end. Hopefully this will be a start. My guess BTW was that the first female died on April 15, 1991 in Ketu-Venus dasa and the second female's husband died on July 17, 1992 in a Venus Mars dasa. My logic started off very self confidently in a sane manner but at some point it dwindled down to a screeching halt due to brain cramps and severe eye ball twirling from too many hours of looking at this. If I start to sound like a dribbling idiot, welcome to my world. . . ) Donna To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Dear Doc, Below is the Table you sent for possible outcomes and your predictions in red. I got to thinking that perhaps you just made a typing mistake and mixed up the “signs” in the headings of Chart 1 and Chart 2? …In other words maybe you meant Chart 1 to read LIBRA CHART – instead of Pisces Chart, and Chart 2 to read PISCES CHART instead of Libra – in which case your mahadasha and bhukti lords will line up with the correct signs…And that you meant to say that the Libra native dies in a Ketu/Venus while the Pisces native loses her spouse in a Venus/Mars? Just trying to figure out the chart below…If that’s the case – we are both “sane” and just differ on events and dates…J Is that what you meant??? Detective Possible Outcomes: (STEP 3 below) Pisces CHART 1 EVENT DATES DASAS Native dies herself April 15, 1991 Ketu – Venus Native dies herself July 17, 1992 Ketu - Sun Libra CHART 2 EVENT DATES DASAS Female loses husband April 15, 1991 Venus - Moon Female loses husband July 17, 1992 Venus - Mars My conclusion is in red in the table above. I will say that the Native died herself on April 15, 1991 in a Ketu-Venus dasa and the other female lost her husband on July 17, 1992 in a Venus-Mars dasa. Dear Doc and Group, I went over your analysis…And even though I’m still standing firm (by my dates) I can certainly appreciate all your work and charts Doc…And I hate to say this, but your eyeballs must have really been “twirling” over these charts because you made a few errors in timing - J (unless it’s me who has totally lost her mind! J ) The Dates of the Events are April 15, 1991 and July 17, 1992: Chart 1 – The Libra Chart – Her date of birth is April 20, 1954 On April 15, 1991, she runs a Ketu/Venus On July 17, 1992, she runs a Ketu/Sun (I think she lost her spouse on this date) THE LIBRA RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A VENUS MAHADASHA ON THESE DATES. *********************************************************************************************************************** Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, 1956: (not 1955 – right chart – just a typo) On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think this chart belong to the woman who died on this date.) On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars THE PISCES RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A KETU MAHADASHA ON THESE DATES. Can you re-check your dashas when your eyeballs return to their normal state because one of us is losing it!!! J Thanks Doc! Detective Dear Krushna and Group - OK, this may seem like a little bit of 'overkill' for this exercise and after all is said and done, it may be totally wrong, but what I really want to do is to try and establish some sort of a systematical approach by bringing in the worksheet in the Blind Chart anaylsis to illustrate how to use it as best as I can understand it myself at this point. I attempted to do that in this exercise although it became a little long ( 8 pages, sorry) due to the fact that there were several chart combinations to illustrate. Hopefully Krushna, if you will be so kind as to go thru it and make corrections and additions where necessary so that I can re-correct the mistakes that I'm sure I made and we can turn this into a helpful and methodical lesson to better understand the system. We need some sort of a step by step analytical process that we can follow each time, so that we can all arrive at the same conclusion in the end. Hopefully this will be a start. My guess BTW was that the first female died on April 15, 1991 in Ketu-Venus dasa and the second female's husband died on July 17, 1992 in a Venus Mars dasa. My logic started off very self confidently in a sane manner but at some point it dwindled down to a screeching halt due to brain cramps and severe eye ball twirling from too many hours of looking at this. If I start to sound like a dribbling idiot, welcome to my world. . . ) Donna To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Dear Doc… Thanks! I figured out WHAT you did and realized then that you probably just switched the ascendants accidentally…J You are right about it making a great template to work from in the long run… Detective Dear Detective - I went over your analysis…And even though I’m still standing firm (by my dates) I can certainly appreciate all your work and charts Doc…And I hate to say this, but your eyeballs must have really been “twirling†over these charts because you made a few errors in timing - J (unless it’s me who has totally lost her mind! J ) See, I TOLD you my brain was fried. . . After I did all the charts I went back afterwards and re -filled the table that's headed " Possible outcomes " on the first page from just Chart 1 and Chart 2, to adding the ascendant to describe it better. I mistakenly reversed the ascendants on the table, but the chart should be fine, except for the typo on the date in the 2nd chart. I'm sure that won't be the last of my mistakes either! ) Thanks for bringing this to light, because I just over loaded myself with too much info without knowing the system well enough yet. Even if I'm totally wrong on the dates, I don't care because I can easily switch it around later to make a lesson out of it. This way, we can later use it as a sort of template to work out blind charts better. Doc To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:39:09 -0500, you wrote: Sandy & Group, Either my computer or I am going haywire. Krushna says it and you confirm >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, 1956: (not >1955 – right chart – just a typo) > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think this chart >belong to the woman who died on this date.) > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars Both Goravani and Solar Fire programs give me Ven/Moon 25/7/1989. Ven/Mars 27/3/1991 and Ven/Rahu 25/5/1992. (I do have 1956 as the birth year and have checked all the other details). This gives Ven/Mars for 15th April. Anyone else get this? Ron Gaunt >Dear Doc and Group, > >I went over your analysis…And even though I’m still standing firm (by my >dates) I can certainly appreciate all your work and charts Doc…And I hate to >say this, but your eyeballs must have really been “twirling” over these >charts because you made a few errors in timing - :-) (unless it’s me who has >totally lost her mind! :-) ) > >The Dates of the Events are April 15, 1991 and July 17, 1992: > >Chart 1 – The Libra Chart – Her date of birth is April 20, 1954 > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Ketu/Venus > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Ketu/Sun (I think she lost her >spouse on this date) > >THE LIBRA RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A VENUS MAHADASHA ON THESE DATES. > >**************************************************************************** >******************************************* > >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, 1956: (not >1955 – right chart – just a typo) > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think this chart >belong to the woman who died on this date.) > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars > >THE PISCES RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A KETU MAHADASHA ON THESE DATES. > >Can you re-check your dashas when your eyeballs return to their normal state >because one of us is losing it!!! :-) Thanks Doc! > >Detective > > >Dear Krushna and Group - > > OK, this may seem like a little bit of 'overkill' for this exercise and >after all is said and done, it may be totally wrong, but what I really want >to do is to try and establish some sort of a systematical approach by >bringing in the worksheet in the Blind Chart anaylsis to illustrate how to >use it as best as I can understand it myself at this point. I attempted to >do >that in this exercise although it became a little long ( 8 pages, sorry) due >to the fact that there were several chart combinations to illustrate. > > Hopefully Krushna, if you will be so kind as to go thru it and make >corrections and additions where necessary so that I can re-correct the >mistakes that I'm sure I made and we can turn this into a helpful and >methodical lesson to better understand the system. We need some sort of a >step by step analytical process that we can follow each time, so that we can >all arrive at the same conclusion in the end. Hopefully this will be a >start. > > My guess BTW was that the first female died on April 15, 1991 in >Ketu-Venus dasa and the second female's husband died on July 17, 1992 in a >Venus Mars dasa. > >My logic started off very self confidently in a sane manner but at some >point >it dwindled down to a screeching halt due to brain cramps and severe eye >ball >twirling from too many hours of looking at this. If I start to sound like a >dribbling idiot, welcome to my world. . . ) > >Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Dear Ron, You are getting different dates for Dasha, means there is a difference in your moon. My moon is 07:13:35,means In Scorpio 13 degree 35 mins, and your Moon must be Scorpio 13 degree 41 min and 7 sec. A difference of one min means 8days and 16 hours difference for Anuradha constellation. Take Ayanansha 22:14:03 for Pices ascendent chart and 22:11:48 for Libra ascendent chart. Most probably you will get correct value. krushna >Ron Gaunt <arjee > > >Re: Re: My attempt -6 BA >Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:13:54 +1100 > >On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:39:09 -0500, you wrote: > >Sandy & Group, > >Either my computer or I am going haywire. Krushna says it and >you confirm > > >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, 1956: (not > >1955 – right chart – just a typo) > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think this >chart > >belong to the woman who died on this date.) > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars > >Both Goravani and Solar Fire programs give me Ven/Moon 25/7/1989. >Ven/Mars 27/3/1991 and Ven/Rahu 25/5/1992. (I do have 1956 as >the birth year and have checked all the other details). This >gives Ven/Mars for 15th April. Anyone else get this? > > >Ron Gaunt > > > >Dear Doc and Group, > > > >I went over your analysis…And even though I’m still standing firm (by my > >dates) I can certainly appreciate all your work and charts Doc…And I hate >to > >say this, but your eyeballs must have really been “twirling” over these > >charts because you made a few errors in timing - :-) (unless it’s me who >has > >totally lost her mind! :-) ) > > > >The Dates of the Events are April 15, 1991 and July 17, 1992: > > > >Chart 1 – The Libra Chart – Her date of birth is April 20, 1954 > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Ketu/Venus > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Ketu/Sun (I think she lost >her > >spouse on this date) > > > >THE LIBRA RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A VENUS MAHADASHA ON THESE DATES. > > > >**************************************************************************** > >******************************************* > > > >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, 1956: (not > >1955 – right chart – just a typo) > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think this >chart > >belong to the woman who died on this date.) > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars > > > >THE PISCES RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A KETU MAHADASHA ON THESE DATES. > > > >Can you re-check your dashas when your eyeballs return to their normal >state > >because one of us is losing it!!! :-) Thanks Doc! > > > >Detective > > > > > >Dear Krushna and Group - > > > > OK, this may seem like a little bit of 'overkill' for this exercise >and > >after all is said and done, it may be totally wrong, but what I really >want > >to do is to try and establish some sort of a systematical approach by > >bringing in the worksheet in the Blind Chart anaylsis to illustrate how >to > >use it as best as I can understand it myself at this point. I attempted >to > >do > >that in this exercise although it became a little long ( 8 pages, sorry) >due > >to the fact that there were several chart combinations to illustrate. > > > > Hopefully Krushna, if you will be so kind as to go thru it and make > >corrections and additions where necessary so that I can re-correct the > >mistakes that I'm sure I made and we can turn this into a helpful and > >methodical lesson to better understand the system. We need some sort of a > >step by step analytical process that we can follow each time, so that we >can > >all arrive at the same conclusion in the end. Hopefully this will be a > >start. > > > > My guess BTW was that the first female died on April 15, 1991 in > >Ketu-Venus dasa and the second female's husband died on July 17, 1992 in >a > >Venus Mars dasa. > > > >My logic started off very self confidently in a sane manner but at some > >point > >it dwindled down to a screeching halt due to brain cramps and severe eye > >ball > >twirling from too many hours of looking at this. If I start to sound like >a > >dribbling idiot, welcome to my world. . . ) > > > >Donna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:21:23 +0530, you wrote: Krushna & Sandy, Thanks for the help. Silly me. GJ is actually spot on. It was me entering India Time as 5:30 like we do in JJ that was the problem. In GJ it is entered as 5.5. What threw me was that Peter made the same mistake!! Ron >Dear Ron, >You are getting different dates for Dasha, means there is a difference in >your moon. My moon is 07:13:35,means In Scorpio 13 degree 35 mins, and your >Moon must be Scorpio 13 degree 41 min and 7 sec. A difference of one min >means 8days and 16 hours difference for Anuradha constellation. >Take Ayanansha 22:14:03 for Pices ascendent chart and 22:11:48 for Libra >ascendent chart. Most probably you will get correct value. >krushna > > >>Ron Gaunt <arjee >> >> >>Re: Re: My attempt -6 BA >>Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:13:54 +1100 >> >>On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:39:09 -0500, you wrote: >> >>Sandy & Group, >> >>Either my computer or I am going haywire. Krushna says it and >>you confirm >> >> >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, 1956: (not >> >1955 – right chart – just a typo) >> > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think this >>chart >> >belong to the woman who died on this date.) >> > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars >> >>Both Goravani and Solar Fire programs give me Ven/Moon 25/7/1989. >>Ven/Mars 27/3/1991 and Ven/Rahu 25/5/1992. (I do have 1956 as >>the birth year and have checked all the other details). This >>gives Ven/Mars for 15th April. Anyone else get this? >> >> >>Ron Gaunt >> >> >> >Dear Doc and Group, >> > >> >I went over your analysis…And even though I’m still standing firm (by my >> >dates) I can certainly appreciate all your work and charts Doc…And I hate >>to >> >say this, but your eyeballs must have really been “twirling” over these >> >charts because you made a few errors in timing - :-) (unless it’s me who >>has >> >totally lost her mind! :-) ) >> > >> >The Dates of the Events are April 15, 1991 and July 17, 1992: >> > >> >Chart 1 – The Libra Chart – Her date of birth is April 20, 1954 >> > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Ketu/Venus >> > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Ketu/Sun (I think she lost >>her >> >spouse on this date) >> > >> >THE LIBRA RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A VENUS MAHADASHA ON THESE DATES. >> > >> >**************************************************************************** >> >******************************************* >> > >> >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, 1956: (not >> >1955 – right chart – just a typo) >> > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think this >>chart >> >belong to the woman who died on this date.) >> > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars >> > >> >THE PISCES RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A KETU MAHADASHA ON THESE DATES. >> > >> >Can you re-check your dashas when your eyeballs return to their normal >>state >> >because one of us is losing it!!! :-) Thanks Doc! >> > >> >Detective >> > >> > >> >Dear Krushna and Group - >> > >> > OK, this may seem like a little bit of 'overkill' for this exercise >>and >> >after all is said and done, it may be totally wrong, but what I really >>want >> >to do is to try and establish some sort of a systematical approach by >> >bringing in the worksheet in the Blind Chart anaylsis to illustrate how >>to >> >use it as best as I can understand it myself at this point. I attempted >>to >> >do >> >that in this exercise although it became a little long ( 8 pages, sorry) >>due >> >to the fact that there were several chart combinations to illustrate. >> > >> > Hopefully Krushna, if you will be so kind as to go thru it and make >> >corrections and additions where necessary so that I can re-correct the >> >mistakes that I'm sure I made and we can turn this into a helpful and >> >methodical lesson to better understand the system. We need some sort of a >> >step by step analytical process that we can follow each time, so that we >>can >> >all arrive at the same conclusion in the end. Hopefully this will be a >> >start. >> > >> > My guess BTW was that the first female died on April 15, 1991 in >> >Ketu-Venus dasa and the second female's husband died on July 17, 1992 in >>a >> >Venus Mars dasa. >> > >> >My logic started off very self confidently in a sane manner but at some >> >point >> >it dwindled down to a screeching halt due to brain cramps and severe eye >> >ball >> >twirling from too many hours of looking at this. If I start to sound like >>a >> >dribbling idiot, welcome to my world. . . ) >> > >> >Donna >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 Dear Donna, I have spent most of the day looking at your Lesson/Answer to 6-BA and was able to follow most of the things you said except I couldn't see anywhere where you tied in the chart 2 to the female loosing her husband. Just looking at some of the charts which you threw up I coulod however see something which looked much simpler. Looking at the summary chart which you put in Sa is the highest point scorer for house 2 ( death of husband).As Sa is in Scorpio in the rasi and is in the same house as Mars in the navamsa then Mars can act as samdharmi for Sa and thuis can give the event. All nice and simple - or is it???. Peter Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 Dear Peter - I have spent most of the day looking at your Lesson/Answer to 6-BA and was able to follow most of the things you said except I couldn't see anywhere where you tied in the chart 2 to the female loosing her husband. That was probably the point where I entered my "astrological senility" mode. (hee-hee) > Just looking at some of the charts which you threw up Good choice of words here! ) > I could however see something which looked much simpler. Looking at the summary chart which you put in Sa is the highest point scorer for house 2 ( death of husband).As Sa is in Scorpio in the rasi and is in the same house as Mars in the navamsa then Mars can act as samdharmi for Sa and thuis can give the event. All nice and simple - or is it???. That IS a consideration, although I didn't have the Navamsha chart listed in with the other charts. I should have though, since it dealt with the spouse, but I just dug myself in too deep at that point and couldn't see objectively anymore. There's a point sometimes when you can simply pick up a chart, look at it and KNOW the answer as if someone whispered it to you, it can be that spontaneous and easy. And then there are other times, perehaps like this one, when you can get SO bogged down in the details of putting these charts together in so many and different various combinations that you can totally lose the whole perspective of what goes where and who did what to whom. That's what happened with my analysis I think. But the good thing is that once Krushna gives in and supplies us with the ANSWER, (Krushna?? Are you listening??) I'll be able to re-arrange this into a good learning template and use it as a helpful guide for subsequent blind charts. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 Dear Krushna and List, On page 32 of the lessons I get Ayanamsha for the Pisces asc. 22:13:37 and for the Libra asc.22:11:21 does that mean that we can't use that table? Is there one that has been updated? Sylvia On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:21:23 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain writes: > Dear Ron, > You are getting different dates for Dasha, means there is a > difference in > your moon. My moon is 07:13:35,means In Scorpio 13 degree 35 mins, > and your > Moon must be Scorpio 13 degree 41 min and 7 sec. A difference of > one min > means 8days and 16 hours difference for Anuradha constellation. > Take Ayanansha 22:14:03 for Pices ascendent chart and 22:11:48 for > Libra > ascendent chart. Most probably you will get correct value. > krushna > > > >Ron Gaunt <arjee > > > > > >Re: Re: My attempt -6 BA > >Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:13:54 +1100 > > > >On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:39:09 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Sandy & Group, > > > >Either my computer or I am going haywire. Krushna says it and > >you confirm > > > > >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, > 1956: (not > > >1955 – right chart – just a typo) > > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think > this > >chart > > >belong to the woman who died on this date.) > > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars > > > >Both Goravani and Solar Fire programs give me Ven/Moon 25/7/1989. > >Ven/Mars 27/3/1991 and Ven/Rahu 25/5/1992. (I do have 1956 as > >the birth year and have checked all the other details). This > >gives Ven/Mars for 15th April. Anyone else get this? > > > > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > > >Dear Doc and Group, > > > > > >I went over your analysis…And even though I’m still standing firm > (by my > > >dates) I can certainly appreciate all your work and charts > Doc…And I hate > >to > > >say this, but your eyeballs must have really been “twirling” over > these > > >charts because you made a few errors in timing - :-) (unless it’s > me who > >has > > >totally lost her mind! :-) ) > > > > > >The Dates of the Events are April 15, 1991 and July 17, 1992: > > > > > >Chart 1 – The Libra Chart – Her date of birth is April 20, 1954 > > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Ketu/Venus > > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Ketu/Sun (I think > she lost > >her > > >spouse on this date) > > > > > >THE LIBRA RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A VENUS MAHADASHA ON THESE > DATES. > > > > > > >************************************************************************ **** > > >******************************************* > > > > > >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, > 1956: (not > > >1955 – right chart – just a typo) > > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think > this > >chart > > >belong to the woman who died on this date.) > > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars > > > > > >THE PISCES RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A KETU MAHADASHA ON THESE > DATES. > > > > > >Can you re-check your dashas when your eyeballs return to their > normal > >state > > >because one of us is losing it!!! :-) Thanks Doc! > > > > > >Detective > > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna and Group - > > > > > > OK, this may seem like a little bit of 'overkill' for this > exercise > >and > > >after all is said and done, it may be totally wrong, but what I > really > >want > > >to do is to try and establish some sort of a systematical > approach by > > >bringing in the worksheet in the Blind Chart anaylsis to > illustrate how > >to > > >use it as best as I can understand it myself at this point. I > attempted > >to > > >do > > >that in this exercise although it became a little long ( 8 pages, > sorry) > >due > > >to the fact that there were several chart combinations to > illustrate. > > > > > > Hopefully Krushna, if you will be so kind as to go thru it and > make > > >corrections and additions where necessary so that I can > re-correct the > > >mistakes that I'm sure I made and we can turn this into a helpful > and > > >methodical lesson to better understand the system. We need some > sort of a > > >step by step analytical process that we can follow each time, so > that we > >can > > >all arrive at the same conclusion in the end. Hopefully this will > be a > > >start. > > > > > > My guess BTW was that the first female died on April 15, 1991 in > > >Ketu-Venus dasa and the second female's husband died on July 17, > 1992 in > >a > > >Venus Mars dasa. > > > > > >My logic started off very self confidently in a sane manner but > at some > > >point > > >it dwindled down to a screeching halt due to brain cramps and > severe eye > > >ball > > >twirling from too many hours of looking at this. If I start to > sound like > >a > > >dribbling idiot, welcome to my world. . . ) > > > > > >Donna > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 Dear Sylvia, In the lesson the Value of the ayanansha given is some what nearer figure. There was confusion umong the members abour calculating, and some members were not having provision in their program to feed it, so for them it is given. There may be some difference of some secs, due to rounding off. It can be used for general purpose. Better use the ayanansha given with the problem or by me. krushna >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > >Re: Re: My attempt -6 BA >Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:08:47 -0800 > >Dear Krushna and List, >On page 32 of the lessons I get Ayanamsha for the Pisces asc. 22:13:37 >and for the Libra asc.22:11:21 does that mean that we can't use that >table? >Is there one that has been updated? >Sylvia > > >On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:21:23 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " ><krushanain writes: > > Dear Ron, > > You are getting different dates for Dasha, means there is a > > difference in > > your moon. My moon is 07:13:35,means In Scorpio 13 degree 35 mins, > > and your > > Moon must be Scorpio 13 degree 41 min and 7 sec. A difference of > > one min > > means 8days and 16 hours difference for Anuradha constellation. > > Take Ayanansha 22:14:03 for Pices ascendent chart and 22:11:48 for > > Libra > > ascendent chart. Most probably you will get correct value. > > krushna > > > > > > >Ron Gaunt <arjee > > > > > > > > >Re: Re: My attempt -6 BA > > >Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:13:54 +1100 > > > > > >On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:39:09 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >Sandy & Group, > > > > > >Either my computer or I am going haywire. Krushna says it and > > >you confirm > > > > > > >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, > > 1956: (not > > > >1955 – right chart – just a typo) > > > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think > > this > > >chart > > > >belong to the woman who died on this date.) > > > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars > > > > > >Both Goravani and Solar Fire programs give me Ven/Moon 25/7/1989. > > >Ven/Mars 27/3/1991 and Ven/Rahu 25/5/1992. (I do have 1956 as > > >the birth year and have checked all the other details). This > > >gives Ven/Mars for 15th April. Anyone else get this? > > > > > > > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > > > >Dear Doc and Group, > > > > > > > >I went over your analysis…And even though I’m still standing firm > > (by my > > > >dates) I can certainly appreciate all your work and charts > > Doc…And I hate > > >to > > > >say this, but your eyeballs must have really been “twirling” over > > these > > > >charts because you made a few errors in timing - :-) (unless it’s > > me who > > >has > > > >totally lost her mind! :-) ) > > > > > > > >The Dates of the Events are April 15, 1991 and July 17, 1992: > > > > > > > >Chart 1 – The Libra Chart – Her date of birth is April 20, 1954 > > > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Ketu/Venus > > > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Ketu/Sun (I think > > she lost > > >her > > > >spouse on this date) > > > > > > > >THE LIBRA RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A VENUS MAHADASHA ON THESE > > DATES. > > > > > > > > > > >************************************************************************ >**** > > > >******************************************* > > > > > > > >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, > > 1956: (not > > > >1955 – right chart – just a typo) > > > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I think > > this > > >chart > > > >belong to the woman who died on this date.) > > > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars > > > > > > > >THE PISCES RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A KETU MAHADASHA ON THESE > > DATES. > > > > > > > >Can you re-check your dashas when your eyeballs return to their > > normal > > >state > > > >because one of us is losing it!!! :-) Thanks Doc! > > > > > > > >Detective > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna and Group - > > > > > > > > OK, this may seem like a little bit of 'overkill' for this > > exercise > > >and > > > >after all is said and done, it may be totally wrong, but what I > > really > > >want > > > >to do is to try and establish some sort of a systematical > > approach by > > > >bringing in the worksheet in the Blind Chart anaylsis to > > illustrate how > > >to > > > >use it as best as I can understand it myself at this point. I > > attempted > > >to > > > >do > > > >that in this exercise although it became a little long ( 8 pages, > > sorry) > > >due > > > >to the fact that there were several chart combinations to > > illustrate. > > > > > > > > Hopefully Krushna, if you will be so kind as to go thru it and > > make > > > >corrections and additions where necessary so that I can > > re-correct the > > > >mistakes that I'm sure I made and we can turn this into a helpful > > and > > > >methodical lesson to better understand the system. We need some > > sort of a > > > >step by step analytical process that we can follow each time, so > > that we > > >can > > > >all arrive at the same conclusion in the end. Hopefully this will > > be a > > > >start. > > > > > > > > My guess BTW was that the first female died on April 15, 1991 in > > > >Ketu-Venus dasa and the second female's husband died on July 17, > > 1992 in > > >a > > > >Venus Mars dasa. > > > > > > > >My logic started off very self confidently in a sane manner but > > at some > > > >point > > > >it dwindled down to a screeching halt due to brain cramps and > > severe eye > > > >ball > > > >twirling from too many hours of looking at this. If I start to > > sound like > > >a > > > >dribbling idiot, welcome to my world. . . ) > > > > > > > >Donna > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 Dear peter - I threw up the Navamsa because according to Krushna samdharmis can come from the navamsa just as well as the rasi. Good point to remember. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 >O.K. thank you sylvia On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:10:24 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " <krushanain writes: > Dear Sylvia, > In the lesson the Value of the ayanansha given is some what > nearer > figure. There was confusion umong the members abour calculating, and > some > members were not having provision in their program to feed it, so > for them > it is given. There may be some difference of some secs, due to > rounding off. > It can be used for general purpose. > Better use the ayanansha given with the problem or by me. > krushna > > > >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > > > >Re: Re: My attempt -6 BA > >Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:08:47 -0800 > > > >Dear Krushna and List, > >On page 32 of the lessons I get Ayanamsha for the Pisces asc. > 22:13:37 > >and for the Libra asc.22:11:21 does that mean that we can't use that > >table? > >Is there one that has been updated? > >Sylvia > > > > > >On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:21:23 +0530 " krushna kalani J.K. " > ><krushanain writes: > > > Dear Ron, > > > You are getting different dates for Dasha, means there is a > > > difference in > > > your moon. My moon is 07:13:35,means In Scorpio 13 degree 35 > mins, > > > and your > > > Moon must be Scorpio 13 degree 41 min and 7 sec. A difference of > > > one min > > > means 8days and 16 hours difference for Anuradha constellation. > > > Take Ayanansha 22:14:03 for Pices ascendent chart and 22:11:48 > for > > > Libra > > > ascendent chart. Most probably you will get correct value. > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > >Ron Gaunt <arjee > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: Re: My attempt -6 BA > > > >Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:13:54 +1100 > > > > > > > >On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:39:09 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > > >Sandy & Group, > > > > > > > >Either my computer or I am going haywire. Krushna says it and > > > >you confirm > > > > > > > > >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, > > > 1956: (not > > > > >1955 – right chart – just a typo) > > > > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I > think > > > this > > > >chart > > > > >belong to the woman who died on this date.) > > > > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars > > > > > > > >Both Goravani and Solar Fire programs give me Ven/Moon > 25/7/1989. > > > >Ven/Mars 27/3/1991 and Ven/Rahu 25/5/1992. (I do have 1956 as > > > >the birth year and have checked all the other details). This > > > >gives Ven/Mars for 15th April. Anyone else get this? > > > > > > > > > > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Doc and Group, > > > > > > > > > >I went over your analysis…And even though I’m still standing > firm > > > (by my > > > > >dates) I can certainly appreciate all your work and charts > > > Doc…And I hate > > > >to > > > > >say this, but your eyeballs must have really been “twirling” > over > > > these > > > > >charts because you made a few errors in timing - :-) (unless > it’s > > > me who > > > >has > > > > >totally lost her mind! :-) ) > > > > > > > > > >The Dates of the Events are April 15, 1991 and July 17, 1992: > > > > > > > > > >Chart 1 – The Libra Chart – Her date of birth is April 20, > 1954 > > > > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Ketu/Venus > > > > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Ketu/Sun (I think > > > she lost > > > >her > > > > >spouse on this date) > > > > > > > > > >THE LIBRA RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A VENUS MAHADASHA ON THESE > > > DATES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >************************************************************************ > >**** > > > > >******************************************* > > > > > > > > > >Chart 2 – The Pisces Chart – Her date of birth is December 29, > > > 1956: (not > > > > >1955 – right chart – just a typo) > > > > > On April 15, 1991, she runs a Venus/Moon (I > think > > > this > > > >chart > > > > >belong to the woman who died on this date.) > > > > > On July 17, 1992, she runs a Venus/Mars > > > > > > > > > >THE PISCES RISING CHART DOES NOT RUN A KETU MAHADASHA ON THESE > > > DATES. > > > > > > > > > >Can you re-check your dashas when your eyeballs return to > their > > > normal > > > >state > > > > >because one of us is losing it!!! :-) Thanks Doc! > > > > > > > > > >Detective > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Krushna and Group - > > > > > > > > > > OK, this may seem like a little bit of 'overkill' for this > > > exercise > > > >and > > > > >after all is said and done, it may be totally wrong, but what > I > > > really > > > >want > > > > >to do is to try and establish some sort of a systematical > > > approach by > > > > >bringing in the worksheet in the Blind Chart anaylsis to > > > illustrate how > > > >to > > > > >use it as best as I can understand it myself at this point. I > > > attempted > > > >to > > > > >do > > > > >that in this exercise although it became a little long ( 8 > pages, > > > sorry) > > > >due > > > > >to the fact that there were several chart combinations to > > > illustrate. > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully Krushna, if you will be so kind as to go thru it > and > > > make > > > > >corrections and additions where necessary so that I can > > > re-correct the > > > > >mistakes that I'm sure I made and we can turn this into a > helpful > > > and > > > > >methodical lesson to better understand the system. We need > some > > > sort of a > > > > >step by step analytical process that we can follow each time, > so > > > that we > > > >can > > > > >all arrive at the same conclusion in the end. Hopefully this > will > > > be a > > > > >start. > > > > > > > > > > My guess BTW was that the first female died on April 15, > 1991 in > > > > >Ketu-Venus dasa and the second female's husband died on July > 17, > > > 1992 in > > > >a > > > > >Venus Mars dasa. > > > > > > > > > >My logic started off very self confidently in a sane manner > but > > > at some > > > > >point > > > > >it dwindled down to a screeching halt due to brain cramps and > > > severe eye > > > > >ball > > > > >twirling from too many hours of looking at this. If I start to > > > sound like > > > >a > > > > >dribbling idiot, welcome to my world. . . ) > > > > > > > > > >Donna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 Sylvia, I often get a few minutes different for the Ayanamsa but as long as I get the same Lagna it doesn't really matter. I accept up to about 1minute difference in the lagna. Peter Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 Donna, I threw up the Navamsa because according to Krushna samdharmis can come from the navamsa just as well as the rasi. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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