Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Dear Krushna and List Members, I think that Krushna made a typo on the position of the Sun, and may have meant to say “Sun in Scorpio - 06:18:46” rather than Sun 25:56 Leo for a November birth…J This exercise looks interesting and detailed – I hope I can find the time to look into it…Thanks. ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ Dear Group Members, ABA Chart 7. Date of birth 21st Nov 1949., Birth time 07:55 am IST ( GMT + 5.5) at 19N05, 074E 44 Ahamadnagar India Ayanansha 22:08:06 Ascendent Scorpio 21:45, Sun Leo 25:56, Moon Scorpio 17:16, Mars Leo 21:31, Mercury Scorpio 05:52, Jupiter Capricorn 06:07, Venus Saggitarius 23:30, Saturn Leo 25:56, Rahu Pices 22:09 Some yog in the chart: 1. Zero point due to Saturn in 5th house. 2. Sixth lord in 10th house 3. Saturn in 10th house with 3 points. 4. Sun, Moon and Mercury in ascendent ( 4th place from Saturn) 5. Venus in Navamansha chart is with Saturn. There had an event on 24th Aug 1985. The Dasha on that day was Venus main period and Jupiter Sub period. He lost one of the following on that day. 1) Mother 2) Father 3) Son So find out which person he lost. On 23rd Aug 85 he had a big function at his factory. He installed some new machinenery, and invited many persons to see the working. How we can justify the two instances, with a difference of few hours. One event is adventure, and other is a big loss. krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Dear Sandy, Sorry, It is a typing mistake, Take Sun as Scorpio 06:19. It is Saturn in Leo 25:56. For solving exercises members can use any system. Please give your logic in details as for as possible. krushna > " Sandy Crowther " <sandy > > >RE: Exercise ABA 7 >Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:40:52 -0500 > >Dear Krushna and List Members, > >I think that Krushna made a typo on the position of the Sun, and may have >meant to say “Sun in Scorpio - 06:18:46” rather than Sun 25:56 Leo for a >November birth…:-) > >This exercise looks interesting and detailed – I hope I can find the time >to >look into it…Thanks. > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy >http://www.jupitersweb.com/ <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> > >Dear Group Members, >ABA Chart 7. Date of birth 21st Nov 1949., Birth time 07:55 am IST ( >GMT + 5.5) at 19N05, 074E 44 Ahamadnagar India Ayanansha 22:08:06 >Ascendent Scorpio 21:45, >Sun Leo 25:56, Moon Scorpio 17:16, Mars Leo 21:31, >Mercury Scorpio 05:52, Jupiter Capricorn 06:07, >Venus Saggitarius 23:30, Saturn Leo 25:56, Rahu Pices 22:09 > >Some yog in the chart: >1. Zero point due to Saturn in 5th house. >2. Sixth lord in 10th house >3. Saturn in 10th house with 3 points. >4. Sun, Moon and Mercury in ascendent ( 4th place from Saturn) >5. Venus in Navamansha chart is with Saturn. > >There had an event on 24th Aug 1985. The Dasha on that day was Venus >main period and Jupiter Sub period. He lost one of the following on >that day. >1) Mother 2) Father 3) Son >So find out which person he lost. >On 23rd Aug 85 he had a big function at his factory. He installed >some new machinenery, and invited many persons to see the working. >How we can justify the two instances, with a difference of few hours. >One event is adventure, and other is a big loss. >krushna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2001 Report Share Posted March 13, 2001 Dear Krushna and List Members, On August 24th, 1985, I believe the native lost his son. Dasha – Venus/Jupiter My choice is the loss of his son for several reasons, which I will list (some of these reasons) below. I elected to again look at this chart from 3 different systems of analysis to include System’s Approach, traditional, and Krushna’s ashtakavarga teachings - to verify event validation and to give additional support, as Krushna has encouraged such delineations. I must add, however, that Krushna’s ashtakavarga teachings and the points with which I am familiar with so far proved to pleasantly and powerfully knock off quite a few un-necessary minutes of searching, because with his teachings I immediately focused on the son as being the most obvious and supporting choice for his loss on this date. So in essence, I narrowed down the time spent in the search by implementing the techniques of Krushna’s that I am familiar with first. (I have more to study yet J) I am very pleased with what I have had the time to implement so far as far as ashtakavarga teachings go, and I certainly endorse Krushna’s system as being quite an efficient predictive tool – The more I learn of it, the more amazed I am in its capacity for predictive accuracy…Anyway…here are my findings. House 12 in the natives chart is the focal point for the loss of his son. (The other houses, the 11th for his Mother and the 4th for his father, I quickly eliminated based on the overall picture of the 12th for his son.) The 12th is 8th from the 5th house of children. Jupiter, the bhukti lord, is the natural significator for the 5th , in addition to being the chart significator for children (lord of the 5th). Venus is the Mahadasha lord and both the functional and natural karaka for the 12th House. The lords of D and E are Moon and Jupiter – one of which is the sub-period lord (Jupiter). Also worth mentioning in this analysis is the role of the prantyantardasha lord, malefic Rahu, for the time period in focus. Rahu, the PD lord, tenants House E (5th) – and its landlord is Jupiter. Examining the MD lord further, we see that the most malefic planet, Venus, lords the dusthana 12th, in addition to the 7th, and is disposited in the 2nd by its bhukti lord, debilitated Jupiter – clearly showing the strong connections that exist between the MD lord and the bhukti lord. MD lord, Venus, also malefically aspects the 8th, certainly suggesting suffering by virtue of separation and loss through death. So the 12th lord afflicting the 8th will certainly be highly activated in the MD period of Venus, where suffering for the native appears to be inevitable. Bhukti lord and significator for children, Jupiter while being a tenant of the 3rd, is disposited by the natural death lord, Saturn, who in turn is closely conjunct 6th lord of opposition, conflict, and accidents - Mars. Saturn aspects the 12th house of Venus, the 4th, and the 7th – Houses B, C, and A respectively. Mars, malefic 6th lord, inflicts suffering for the native with respect to the matters of the 1st, the Moon, the 4th, the 5th, and Rahu. ( And traditionally it also inflicts suffering on the 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th lords – causing difficulties in those areas when activated). As I mentioned earlier, Rahu is additionally the Prantyantardasha lord (or sub-sub lord) during this Venus/Jupiter period and afflicts not only the 5th house of children, but additionally the 9th, the 11th , and the lagna (and traditionally the planets posited in the lagna.) Transit In transit, MD lord, Venus, is associated with 6th and 8th lords, while bhukti lord and significator for children, Jupiter, is vargottama and aspected by 6th and 8th lords, Mars and Mercury, along with receiving the wrath of 12th lord, MMP (most malefic planet) and his MD lord, Venus. More connections. Saturn joins avayogi Ketu in the 12th, further setting up the scene for a tragic event. The transit chart supports the possibilities present in the natal chart. Saptamsha Looking at the Saptamsha (divisional 7th chart for children) Venus, the MD lord, is lagna lord, posited in the 8th house of death and aspected by bhukti lord, Jupiter - which speaks volumes for this dasha sequence. We now have the rashi 12th lord ruling the chart of children and posited in the 8th , which is highly indicative of tragedy to his child during the Venus/Jupiter dashas. Bhukti is additionally posited on the Rahu/Ketu axis and aspected by Saturn from the 5th. So, Jupiter conjoins the avayogi Ketu, while both aspect the 5th and Saturn, and both receive the aspect of Saturn and sub-sub lord malefic Rahu. Looking at this chart makes it quite apparent that there are dangers present to his child during this dasha sequence. Navamsha Navamsha shows 5th and 10th MD lord Venus conjunct Saturn while bhukti lord Jupiter sits in the 2nd with prantyantardasha lord Rahu and both disposited by Saturn. To me it is very clear that the events were all lined up and waiting for the trigger period Dashas to come into effect – which were Venus/Jupiter/Rahu. This, to me, is the time this event would most likely occur. Machinery Adventure: More than one thing can go on in any given chart in a short period of time – I can certainly testify to that in my own chart, and this chart is no exception. Also, I’m sure there are more answers to this if we study the daily ashtakavarga points – which I didn’t do for this analysis as I’m sporting close to a book now in this analysis. J So I need to cut out somewhere… Involving the career, Jupiter, the bhukti lord, is posited in the 3rd in the house of initiatives and starting a new venture – therefore Jupiter’s results can also include, or be linked with, both 6th and 10th house matters – which involve the workplace and career. So his new venture in the workplace becomes viable even in the midst of being immediately followed by losing a family member during his Jupiter bhukti - by virtue of its placement in rashi. Also, consider that it is disposited by 3rd lord Saturn, who resides with 1st and 6th lord, Mars, in the 10th house of career. Tenants of the 10th house, Mars and Saturn are disposited by natural karaka for the 10th house, the Sun, who brings attention to himself by virtue of being in dignity and digbala in transit ( own sign and having directional strength), in addition to being well placed in the 1st in rashi, so the power for initiatives involving ventures is there. Mars is also digbala in rashi and in mutual reception with the 10th lord, Sun. Looking at the Dashamsha chart (divisional 10th – chart of successes/career) we have bhukti lord, Jupiter, strongly posited in the 10th aspecting MD lord, Venus, activating this chart during this period, and aspecting and in mutual exchange with 10th lord, Mars. So in Venus/Jupiter in D-10, while MD and bhukti lord form a 5/9 lucky relationship with a 10th house involvement, we can certainly expect some attention for the matters of career initiatives to be activated as well. Hope I didn’t put you all too sleep J…Anyway – that’s my take on this chart. ~Namaste~ Sandy http://www.jupitersweb.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 Dear Sandy, Congratulations, Very nice analysis. krushna , " Sandy Crowther " <sandy@t...> wrote: > Dear Krushna and List Members, > > On August 24th, 1985, I believe the native lost his son. > > Dasha – Venus/Jupiter > > My choice is the loss of his son for several reasons, which I will list > (some of these reasons) below. I elected to again look at this chart from 3 > different systems of analysis to include System's Approach, traditional, and > Krushna's ashtakavarga teachings - to verify event validation and to give > additional support, as Krushna has encouraged such delineations. > > I must add, however, that Krushna's ashtakavarga teachings and the points > with which I am familiar with so far proved to pleasantly and powerfully > knock off quite a few un-necessary minutes of searching, because with his > teachings I immediately focused on the son as being the most obvious and > supporting choice for his loss on this date. So in essence, I narrowed down > the time spent in the search by implementing the techniques of Krushna's > that I am familiar with first. (I have more to study yet :-)) I am very > pleased with what I have had the time to implement so far as far as > ashtakavarga teachings go, and I certainly endorse Krushna's system as being > quite an efficient predictive tool – The more I learn of it, the more amazed > I am in its capacity for predictive accuracy…Anyway…here are my findings. > > House 12 in the natives chart is the focal point for the loss of his son. > (The other houses, the 11th for his Mother and the 4th for his father, I > quickly eliminated based on the overall picture of the 12th for his son.) > The 12th is 8th from the 5th house of children. Jupiter, the bhukti lord, is > the natural significator for the 5th , in addition to being the chart > significator for children (lord of the 5th). Venus is the Mahadasha lord and > both the functional and natural karaka for the 12th House. The lords of D > and E are Moon and Jupiter – one of which is the sub-period lord (Jupiter). > Also worth mentioning in this analysis is the role of the prantyantardasha > lord, malefic Rahu, for the time period in focus. Rahu, the PD lord, tenants > House E (5th) – and its landlord is Jupiter. > > Examining the MD lord further, we see that the most malefic planet, Venus, > lords the dusthana 12th, in addition to the 7th, and is disposited in the > 2nd by its bhukti lord, debilitated Jupiter – clearly showing the strong > connections that exist between the MD lord and the bhukti lord. MD lord, > Venus, also malefically aspects the 8th, certainly suggesting suffering by > virtue of separation and loss through death. So the 12th lord afflicting the > 8th will certainly be highly activated in the MD period of Venus, where > suffering for the native appears to be inevitable. > > Bhukti lord and significator for children, Jupiter while being a tenant of > the 3rd, is disposited by the natural death lord, Saturn, who in turn is > closely conjunct 6th lord of opposition, conflict, and accidents - Mars. > Saturn aspects the 12th house of Venus, the 4th, and the 7th – Houses B, C, > and A respectively. Mars, malefic 6th lord, inflicts suffering for the > native with respect to the matters of the 1st, the Moon, the 4th, the 5th, > and Rahu. ( And traditionally it also inflicts suffering on the 8th, 9th, > 10th and 11th lords – causing difficulties in those areas when activated). > As I mentioned earlier, Rahu is additionally the Prantyantardasha lord (or > sub-sub lord) during this Venus/Jupiter period and afflicts not only the 5th > house of children, but additionally the 9th, the 11th , and the lagna (and > traditionally the planets posited in the lagna.) > > Transit > In transit, MD lord, Venus, is associated with 6th and 8th lords, while > bhukti lord and significator for children, Jupiter, is vargottama and > aspected by 6th and 8th lords, Mars and Mercury, along with receiving the > wrath of 12th lord, MMP (most malefic planet) and his MD lord, Venus. More > connections. Saturn joins avayogi Ketu in the 12th, further setting up the > scene for a tragic event. The transit chart supports the possibilities > present in the natal chart. > > Saptamsha > Looking at the Saptamsha (divisional 7th chart for children) Venus, the MD > lord, is lagna lord, posited in the 8th house of death and aspected by > bhukti lord, Jupiter - which speaks volumes for this dasha sequence. We now > have the rashi 12th lord ruling the chart of children and posited in the 8th > , which is highly indicative of tragedy to his child during the > Venus/Jupiter dashas. Bhukti is additionally posited on the Rahu/Ketu axis > and aspected by Saturn from the 5th. So, Jupiter conjoins the avayogi Ketu, > while both aspect the 5th and Saturn, and both receive the aspect of Saturn > and sub-sub lord malefic Rahu. Looking at this chart makes it quite apparent > that there are dangers present to his child during this dasha sequence. > > Navamsha > Navamsha shows 5th and 10th MD lord Venus conjunct Saturn while bhukti lord > Jupiter sits in the 2nd with prantyantardasha lord Rahu and both disposited > by Saturn. > > To me it is very clear that the events were all lined up and waiting for the > trigger period Dashas to come into effect – which were Venus/Jupiter/Rahu. > This, to me, is the time this event would most likely occur. > > Machinery Adventure: > More than one thing can go on in any given chart in a short period of time – > I can certainly testify to that in my own chart, and this chart is no > exception. Also, I'm sure there are more answers to this if we study the > daily ashtakavarga points – which I didn't do for this analysis as I'm > sporting close to a book now in this analysis. :-) So I need to cut out > somewhere… > > Involving the career, Jupiter, the bhukti lord, is posited in the 3rd in the > house of initiatives and starting a new venture – therefore Jupiter's > results can also include, or be linked with, both 6th and 10th house > matters – which involve the workplace and career. So his new venture in the > workplace becomes viable even in the midst of being immediately followed by > losing a family member during his Jupiter bhukti - by virtue of its > placement in rashi. Also, consider that it is disposited by 3rd lord Saturn, > who resides with 1st and 6th lord, Mars, in the 10th house of career. > Tenants of the 10th house, Mars and Saturn are disposited by natural karaka > for the 10th house, the Sun, who brings attention to himself by virtue of > being in dignity and digbala in transit ( own sign and having directional > strength), in addition to being well placed in the 1st in rashi, so the > power for initiatives involving ventures is there. Mars is also digbala in > rashi and in mutual reception with the 10th lord, Sun. > > Looking at the Dashamsha chart (divisional 10th – chart of successes/career) > we have bhukti lord, Jupiter, strongly posited in the 10th aspecting MD > lord, Venus, activating this chart during this period, and aspecting and in > mutual exchange with 10th lord, Mars. So in Venus/Jupiter in D-10, while MD > and bhukti lord form a 5/9 lucky relationship with a 10th house involvement, > we can certainly expect some attention for the matters of career initiatives > to be activated as well. > > Hope I didn't put you all too sleep :-)…Anyway – that's my take on this > chart. > > ~Namaste~ > Sandy > http://www.jupitersweb.com/ <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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