lenght of bukhtis

[Guest guest]

Respected Krushna,

We certainly are learning a lot through your lessons and exercices. Guessing an event when a certain date is given seems to work for most of us. There is nevertheless the problem to determine "when" an event is going to happen especially when we have long buktis, some are nearly 3 years long, so how will we manage to chose the right date in such a long period, even if we are sure that the event has to happen in this given time. Are there special rules for that ?

Best regards

Margarita

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

We have studied up till now that any event, happens in the

powerful significators, or in the sub period of lord of D or E. The

main period is that of karak planet or its samdharmi. Now the sub

period of the planets are of various length. It is a important thing

to narrow the time period. There are some rules for this.

1. If the lords of A,B,and C house is aspected by Saturn, or situated

with Saturn or Saturn it self is one of the lord and others are in

aspect of Saturn. This must be seen from Rashi chart and/or

Navamansha chart. Both the charts have equal staus. In such case the

event is late, means if we devide the sub period in three parts it

will be in the third part.

2. If in such case the lords are aspected by Jupiter then the event

is in 2nd part.

3. If only jupiter is aspecting these lords the events can be in the

first part.

4. The sign lord and constellation lord of the Sub lord, ( sub period

lord) are also resposible for the time. Slow moving planets delays

the event, and fast moving planets gives the result early.

5. Moon is most fast moving planet. and Saturn is most slow moving

planet. The asending order is Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter,

Rahu, and Saturn.

6. The Navamansha lord of the significator lord should also be

considered.

Thus we can fix up the period with in 13 months ( Venus sub in

Venus main is of 40 months so 1/3 of 40 = aprox 13 months. The

minimum period is that of Sun in Sun main = 3 months 18 days. in this

case it is one month 6 days. The event happens when the sun have

transit in the other powerful significator's sign or Constellation.

So in the longest period we can have two or three periods

each of max 13 days.

Some suggests use of Pratianter dasha,( Sub Sub period ), but it do

not give any satisfactory result.

Few more points are remaing, those I will cover some other time

krushna

 

, " Lettens " <dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Respected Krushna,

> We certainly are learning a lot through your lessons and exercices.

Guessing an event when a certain date is given seems to work for most

of us. There is nevertheless the problem to determine " when " an event

is going to happen especially when we have long buktis, some are

nearly 3 years long, so how will we manage to chose the right date in

such a long period, even if we are sure that the event has to happen

in this given time. Are there special rules for that ?

> Best regards

> Margarita

[Guest guest]

Respected Krushna,

Just read your letter on the length of Bhuktis. I have one query. If neither

Saturn nor Jupiter aspects either A,B, or C we are only left with Sun, Moon,

Mercury, Venus and Mars periods to break down - how do we know which third

of those planets to use, for example in Venus sub-period.

 

Peter

Namaste

[Guest guest]

Respected Peterji,

In the case when Saturn the delay causing planet is not aspecting, or

the significating planet is not having relation with Saturn, ( not in

the navamansha of Saturn or Sign or constellation ruled by Saturn.

Then the event will be earlier in the sub period.

Now the case is of Venus, and assumed that it is not in the

constellation of Saturn or Jupiter. It means it should be in first

eight signs. and in that also not in the constellation of Jupiter and

Saturn. So if it is in Aswini, Bharani, Rohini, Ashlesha, Magha,

Purva, Uttara, Hasta, Chitra, Swati constellation, the period should

be as per the lord of constellation. Rohini,Uttara, Ashlesha, Hasta,

Gives in first part, Remaing in 2nd part. The constellations I omited

in the first 8 signs are bad for Venus. Venus in Krittika, Aradra,

Jestha, ( and Mul) spoils the nature of Venus. So result will not be

favourable.

krushna

 

, " Peter Sutcliffe "

<petermay@p...> wrote:

> Respected Krushna,

> Just read your letter on the length of Bhuktis. I have one query.

If neither

> Saturn nor Jupiter aspects either A,B, or C we are only left with

Sun, Moon,

> Mercury, Venus and Mars periods to break down - how do we know

which third

> of those planets to use, for example in Venus sub-period.

>

> Peter

> Namaste

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

Thank you for digging this post up.

 

There is still come confusion for me. I'll try and address it as

best as I can.

 

If say a powerful significators or LOD or LOE's sub is going on, so

 

1) we will first check if Shani is aspecting House A,B or C if it is

then the event would be in the last 1/3rd portion.

 

2) We then check if that lord is being aspected by Jupiter or is

Shani itself is being aspected by Jupiter in Rasi or Navamsa. (What

about if Shani is in constellation of Jupiter or in Sign of Jupiter

or if shani is samdharmi to Jupiter) ?

 

If so then the event will now be changed and will happen in the 2nd

portion.

 

3) If the powerful significator is only aspected by Jupiter and not

associated with Saturn then the event will take place in the 1st

portion.

 

If what I have explained above seems proper then so far I have

understood.

 

What confuses me are the next points about

 

4) Check for Sign lord

5) Check for lord of the sign in Navamsa where it is placed

6) Check for nakshatra.

 

I mean we then can have so many variables how to resolve the above

points (4,5, and 6) in addition to 1,2 and 3.

 

This is what confuses me ?

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Hello Ash,

> After reading your mail, I remembered some mails about this subjet.

Perhaps

> you were not on the list at that moment, so I forward it to you.

There are

> two things considered : Aspects of Saturn on lords of A,B and C and

status

> of Bukti lords

> As you see it has to do with aspect of fast and slow moving planets

on the

> bukthi planet. Personally, I have tried to check these rules and as

far as I

> can see is when Saturn intervenes in one way or another, events

always seem

> to fall in the 3th part of the bukti. By effect of Saturn I mean

that when

> the planet is placed in Saturn's sign, Nakshatra or Navamsha or

when there

> is aspect of Saturn. But I don't know if there is an particular

order to

> follow. I think is also a question of balance. For example. In the

subperiod

> of Jupiter who is rather slow moving things can happen in the

second part of

> his bukti. If Saturn intervenes the event will be delayed to the

last part.

> In a subperiod of the Moon (fastmoving) without any aspect the

event will

> happen in the 1st 1/3th. If this Moon has aspect from Mars (slower)

it could

> perhaps happen in the 2nd part. If Saturn intervenes, there will be

delay

> and the event will happen in the second part or even 3th part when

there are

> several " Saturn contacts "

> Hope this helps

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

>

> krushanain@h... [krushanain@h...]

> Thursday, March 15, 2001 8:19 PM

>

> Re: lenght of bukhtis

>

> Dear Margarita,

> We have studied up till now that any event, happens in the

> powerful significators, or in the sub period of lord of D or E. The

> main period is that of karak planet or its samdharmi. Now the sub

> period of the planets are of various length. It is a important thing

> to narrow the time period. There are some rules for this.

> 1. If the lords of A,B,and C house is aspected by Saturn, or

situated

> with Saturn or Saturn it self is one of the lord and others are in

> aspect of Saturn. This must be seen from Rashi chart and/or

> Navamansha chart. Both the charts have equal staus. In such case the

> event is late, means if we devide the sub period in three parts it

> will be in the third part.

> 2. If in such case the lords are aspected by Jupiter then the event

> is in 2nd part.

> 3. If only jupiter is aspecting these lords the events can be in the

> first part.

> 4. The sign lord and constellation lord of the Sub lord, ( sub

period

> lord) are also resposible for the time. Slow moving planets delays

> the event, and fast moving planets gives the result early.

> 5. Moon is most fast moving planet. and Saturn is most slow moving

> planet. The asending order is Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter,

> Rahu, and Saturn.

> 6. The Navamansha lord of the significator lord should also be

> considered.

> Thus we can fix up the period with in 13 months ( Venus sub

in

> Venus main is of 40 months so 1/3 of 40 = aprox 13 months. The

> minimum period is that of Sun in Sun main = 3 months 18 days. in

this

> case it is one month 6 days. The event happens when the sun have

> transit in the other powerful significator's sign or Constellation.

> So in the longest period we can have two or three periods

> each of max 13 days.

> Some suggests use of Pratianter dasha,( Sub Sub period ), but it

do

> not give any satisfactory result.

> Few more points are remaing, those I will cover some other time

> krushna

>

> , " Lettens " <dmlettens@s...>

> wrote:

> > Respected Krushna,

> > We certainly are learning a lot through your lessons and

exercices.

> Guessing an event when a certain date is given seems to work for

most

> of us. There is nevertheless the problem to determine " when " an

event

> is going to happen especially when we have long buktis, some are

> nearly 3 years long, so how will we manage to chose the right date

in

> such a long period, even if we are sure that the event has to happen

> in this given time. Are there special rules for that ?

> > Best regards

> > Margarita

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Ash,

I think there should be a difference in the appreciation of

an event when Saturn aspects. This is how I feel about it

anyway. I don't know if it is correct.

1. If for any event in life Saturn aspects houses A,B or C

or their lords in Rasi or navamsha, or the planet is Saturn

himself,then there is delay (in time)of some sort. I think

it has to be balanced out with other factors like planets

that can give results, transit of the Sun etc. I really

don't see what the bukti itself has to do with this kind of

delay. It's just " delay " like the one we saw for marriage.

2. During the time of a certain bukti planet that is

supposed to give results because it signifies something and

has enough points, Saturn will delay if this buktiplanet

is associated with Saturn in some way. I don't think there

are any " fixed rules " just because Saturn can intervene a

little bit (one aspect) or strongly (different intervention

in Rashi and navamsha).

3. In your point 3, I thought it was Jupiter's aspect on

Saturn that lifts a bit the delay. So if Saturn has a

strong influence on the buktilord but Saturn also gets

aspect from Jupiter, there is less delay.

I will go through the lessons again and will try to dig up

some other mails on this topic that could make things more

clear. I think there are indeed many variables but perhaps

we can find a way through the confusion

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

ashsam73 [ashsam73]

Monday, October 07, 2002 4:07 PM

 

FW: Re: lenght of

bukhtis

 

Dear Margarita,

Thank you for digging this post up.

 

There is still come confusion for me. I'll try and address

it as

best as I can.

 

If say a powerful significators or LOD or LOE's sub is

going on, so

 

1) we will first check if Shani is aspecting House A,B or C

if it is

then the event would be in the last 1/3rd portion.

 

2) We then check if that lord is being aspected by Jupiter

or is

Shani itself is being aspected by Jupiter in Rasi or

Navamsa. (What

about if Shani is in constellation of Jupiter or in Sign of

Jupiter

or if shani is samdharmi to Jupiter) ?

 

If so then the event will now be changed and will happen in

the 2nd

portion.

 

3) If the powerful significator is only aspected by Jupiter

and not

associated with Saturn then the event will take place in

the 1st

portion.

 

If what I have explained above seems proper then so far I

have

understood.

 

What confuses me are the next points about

 

4) Check for Sign lord

5) Check for lord of the sign in Navamsa where it is placed

6) Check for nakshatra.

 

I mean we then can have so many variables how to resolve

the above

points (4,5, and 6) in addition to 1,2 and 3.

 

This is what confuses me ?

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, " dmlettens "

<dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Hello Ash,

> After reading your mail, I remembered some mails about

this subjet.

Perhaps

> you were not on the list at that moment, so I forward it

to you.

There are

> two things considered : Aspects of Saturn on lords of A,B

and C and

status

> of Bukti lords

> As you see it has to do with aspect of fast and slow

moving planets

on the

> bukthi planet. Personally, I have tried to check these

rules and as

far as I

> can see is when Saturn intervenes in one way or another,

events

always seem

> to fall in the 3th part of the bukti. By effect of Saturn

I mean

that when

> the planet is placed in Saturn's sign, Nakshatra or

Navamsha or

when there

> is aspect of Saturn. But I don't know if there is an

particular

order to

> follow. I think is also a question of balance. For

example. In the

subperiod

> of Jupiter who is rather slow moving things can happen in

the

second part of

> his bukti. If Saturn intervenes the event will be delayed

to the

last part.

> In a subperiod of the Moon (fastmoving) without any

aspect the

event will

> happen in the 1st 1/3th. If this Moon has aspect from

Mars (slower)

it could

> perhaps happen in the 2nd part. If Saturn intervenes,

there will be

delay

> and the event will happen in the second part or even 3th

part when

there are

> several " Saturn contacts "

> Hope this helps

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

>

> krushanain@h... [krushanain@h...]

> Thursday, March 15, 2001 8:19 PM

>

> Re: lenght of bukhtis

>

> Dear Margarita,

> We have studied up till now that any event,

happens in the

> powerful significators, or in the sub period of lord of D

or E. The

> main period is that of karak planet or its samdharmi. Now

the sub

> period of the planets are of various length. It is a

important thing

> to narrow the time period. There are some rules for this.

> 1. If the lords of A,B,and C house is aspected by Saturn,

or

situated

> with Saturn or Saturn it self is one of the lord and

others are in

> aspect of Saturn. This must be seen from Rashi chart

and/or

> Navamansha chart. Both the charts have equal staus. In

such case the

> event is late, means if we devide the sub period in three

parts it

> will be in the third part.

> 2. If in such case the lords are aspected by Jupiter then

the event

> is in 2nd part.

> 3. If only jupiter is aspecting these lords the events

can be in the

> first part.

> 4. The sign lord and constellation lord of the Sub lord,

( sub

period

> lord) are also resposible for the time. Slow moving

planets delays

> the event, and fast moving planets gives the result

early.

> 5. Moon is most fast moving planet. and Saturn is most

slow moving

> planet. The asending order is Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus,

Jupiter,

> Rahu, and Saturn.

> 6. The Navamansha lord of the significator lord should

also be

> considered.

> Thus we can fix up the period with in 13 months

( Venus sub

in

> Venus main is of 40 months so 1/3 of 40 = aprox 13

months. The

> minimum period is that of Sun in Sun main = 3 months 18

days. in

this

> case it is one month 6 days. The event happens when the

sun have

> transit in the other powerful significator's sign or

Constellation.

> So in the longest period we can have two or three

periods

> each of max 13 days.

> Some suggests use of Pratianter dasha,( Sub Sub

period ), but it

do

> not give any satisfactory result.

> Few more points are remaing, those I will cover some

other time

> krushna

>

> , " Lettens "

<dmlettens@s...>

> wrote:

> > Respected Krushna,

> > We certainly are learning a lot through your lessons

and

exercices.

> Guessing an event when a certain date is given seems to

work for

most

> of us. There is nevertheless the problem to determine

" when " an

event

> is going to happen especially when we have long buktis,

some are

> nearly 3 years long, so how will we manage to chose the

right date

in

> such a long period, even if we are sure that the event

has to happen

> in this given time. Are there special rules for that ?

> > Best regards

> > Margarita

>

>

>

>

>