Guest guest Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 Dear Ron, Here when I said The Venus is the lord of 7th and 12th house. At the time of event, The main period ov Venus was running. The main period indicates the karkatva, (responding). So the result can be related to 7th and 12th house. We say that the house 'A' is shows the karkatva. so taking these houses as A. Here I was having the meaning in that sense. So Taking them as House A, We have 12th house as B for 7th as A and 5th house as B for 12th as A. Yes In lesson 4 it is mensioned that house 3 for start of new adventure. The results shown there are for the guide line, to show how we can arrive at the result. These indications are related to the houses A,B,C,D and E. If you consider 10th house, it indicates authority,honor, success etc. The karkatva for that is house A for that. So 5th house is house A, 10th house as B, and 2nd house as C. The honor or success can be due to the karkatva of house A, which is 5th. Which inclueds adventure, So house E from it indicates by its lord as start of new adventure. Which is 3rd house. So while writing the results indicated by the house It is written against house three as start of new adventure. Now for adventure the 12th house is responding as house A. So if we take 5th house for adventure 12th house is karkatva(responding) So 12th, 5th and 9th house for adventure. Similarly for the death of son 7th house is house A, so houses are 7th, 12th and 4th. as A.B.C. If you look keenly you will find that the house which is having karkatva for any eveny is also indicates the end of that thing. For child birth we take 12th house as karkatva for child birth, now same house is house B for death of the child. Other example with the same house, 5th indicates the effort, education for the achivement of authority (10th house) at the same time it denotes the loss of authority, seen from 12th house as A so 5th becames B, and 9th becames C. ( 9th is 12th from 10th ) In other words we can say Karkatva for the end of any thing is the 3rd house from that house. 5th house also indicates child so 3rd house from 5th indicates karkatva for death of child. 9th house indicates father so karkatva (A)for death is indicated by 3rd house from it that is, which is 11th house. Lord of house D for 5th house. The event is indicated by house B. For finding this We start from house A. So I follow to denote from house B. for the same reason I have written House D for 5th House. Meaning is 5th is house B, 12th is house A, and 9th is house C, house D is 2nd house and house E is 10th house. House D and E from house B are 6th and 10th house respectively. **Why transit .... Ketu .....Mars. ** The Ketu in the chart is situated in the sign Virgo, which is ruled by Mercury, and it is in the constellation Hasta, which is ruled by Moon. Here I mean by the words " ruled by " means " lord of " If I have typed Chitra it is typo, it should be Hasta. and ruled by Moon. If it is typed by Donna, I am sorry for that, because I must have checked it. ** It is interesting........12th house " This is revised by Doona, I do not know the long form of 'MEP'. Please read my writeup. thanks krushna , Ron Gaunt <arjee@G...> wrote: > On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:15:15 -0000, you wrote: > > Respected Krushna, > > It is good to know we all got the correct answer. Will you > please check my questions shown below **......**. Thanks > > > Ron > > > >Dear Members, > > All the participants have got the correct answer. I must > >congratulate to all. > >The correct answer is loss of Son. The main period was of Venus. It > >is a lord of 7th and 12 house. So matter should be related to these > >houses. > ** both houses or either house? If both in what way is the 7th > involved?. ** > > >The sub period was of Jupiter. Which is lord of house E for > >12th house and Lord of house D for 5th house. > > There fore the results of both the houses can be > >experienced. 5th house result means extra advencture, > ** I always thought that 3rd house was initiatives and adventure. > Adventure is not mentioned as a fifth house matter in Lesson 4. > Is there some special way that you are looking at this, ie a > derived house? ** > > >and 12th house > >is 8th from 5th. The transit of sun was covering both the events. Sun > >is lord of house E for 5th house, and Moon is lord of house D > ** Jupiter is Lord of D house for the 5th. Should this read > 'Lord of house D for 12th house? ** > > >(transit in Ketu also represents Moon.) > ** Will you please explain why this is so. Ketu is in Virgo ruled > by Mercury and in constellation Chitra ruled by Mars ** > > > > If we study the chart, The Mars is situated in 10th house, > >aspect 5th house. This Mars is situated in the constellation of > >Venus. and also in the navamansha of Venus. Such combination gives > >loss of male child. Female child can servive, but may have some > >problem with them also, There is more chances of mentaly retarded > >female child. The affliction of 5th house creates such problems. > > This is known as sarpa shap, which reduces the life of male > >child, or no male child. > ** It is interesting also that Mars afflicts Rahu on the MEP of > 5th house of Jupiter's sign. This was EXACTLY conjuncted by last > Solar Eclipse Venus malefic Lord of the 12th house!! ** > > > Both the events happened at the same time. A thought > >regarding Moons travel came forward. It is a research work. and > >should be checked. It should be proved with many charts. > > Planets having dual lord ship can give two similar results > >at a time. Both may be favorable, or both may be unfavorable, or one > >result favorable and other with in few hours unfavorable. > >krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:11:11 -0000, you wrote: Respected Krushna, Thank you for your explanations. I am slowly digesting it all. Regarding the question of the Moon transit. This was my mistake as my ayanamsa settings on Goravani Jyotish came out a little different to yours, and moved the Moon into the next constellation. Ron >Dear Ron, > Here when I said The Venus is the lord of 7th and 12th house. >At the time of event, The main period ov Venus was running. The main >period indicates the karkatva, (responding). So the result can be >related to 7th and 12th house. We say that the house 'A' is shows the >karkatva. so taking these houses as A. Here I was having the meaning >in that sense. So Taking them as House A, We have 12th house as B for >7th as A and 5th house as B for 12th as A. > > Yes In lesson 4 it is mensioned that house 3 for start of >new adventure. The results shown there are for the guide line, to >show how we can arrive at the result. These indications are related >to the houses A,B,C,D and E. > If you consider 10th house, it indicates authority,honor, >success etc. The karkatva for that is house A for that. So 5th house >is house A, 10th house as B, and 2nd house as C. The honor or success >can be due to the karkatva of house A, which is 5th. Which inclueds >adventure, So house E from it indicates by its lord as start of new >adventure. Which is 3rd house. So while writing the results indicated >by the house It is written against house three as start of new >adventure. > Now for adventure the 12th house is responding as house A. So >if we take 5th house for adventure 12th house is karkatva(responding) >So 12th, 5th and 9th house for adventure. > Similarly for the death of son 7th house is house A, so >houses are 7th, 12th and 4th. as A.B.C. > If you look keenly you will find that the house which is >having karkatva for any eveny is also indicates the end of that >thing. For child birth we take 12th house as karkatva for child >birth, now same house is house B for death of the child. > Other example with the same house, 5th indicates the effort, >education for the achivement of authority (10th house) at the same >time it denotes the loss of authority, seen from 12th house as A so >5th becames B, and 9th becames C. ( 9th is 12th from 10th ) > In other words we can say Karkatva for the end of any thing is >the 3rd house from that house. 5th house also indicates child so 3rd >house from 5th indicates karkatva for death of child. > 9th house indicates father so karkatva (A)for death is >indicated by 3rd house from it that is, which is 11th house. > > Lord of house D for 5th house. The event is indicated by house >B. For finding this We start from house A. So I follow to denote from >house B. for the same reason I have written House D for 5th House. >Meaning is 5th is house B, 12th is house A, and 9th is house C, house >D is 2nd house and house E is 10th house. > House D and E from house B are 6th and 10th house >respectively. > **Why transit .... Ketu .....Mars. ** The Ketu in the >chart is situated in the sign Virgo, which is ruled by Mercury, and >it is in the constellation Hasta, which is ruled by Moon. Here I mean >by the words " ruled by " means " lord of " If I have typed Chitra it is >typo, it should be Hasta. and ruled by Moon. If it is typed by Donna, >I am sorry for that, because I must have checked it. > ** It is interesting........12th house " This is revised by >Doona, I do not know the long form of 'MEP'. Please read my writeup. >thanks >krushna > > >, Ron Gaunt <arjee@G...> wrote: >> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:15:15 -0000, you wrote: >> >> Respected Krushna, >> >> It is good to know we all got the correct answer. Will you >> please check my questions shown below **......**. Thanks >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >Dear Members, >> > All the participants have got the correct answer. I must >> >congratulate to all. >> >The correct answer is loss of Son. The main period was of Venus. >It >> >is a lord of 7th and 12 house. So matter should be related to >these >> >houses. >> ** both houses or either house? If both in what way is the 7th >> involved?. ** >> >> >The sub period was of Jupiter. Which is lord of house E for >> >12th house and Lord of house D for 5th house. >> > There fore the results of both the houses can be >> >experienced. 5th house result means extra advencture, >> ** I always thought that 3rd house was initiatives and adventure. >> Adventure is not mentioned as a fifth house matter in Lesson 4. >> Is there some special way that you are looking at this, ie a >> derived house? ** >> >> >and 12th house >> >is 8th from 5th. The transit of sun was covering both the events. >Sun >> >is lord of house E for 5th house, and Moon is lord of house D >> ** Jupiter is Lord of D house for the 5th. Should this read >> 'Lord of house D for 12th house? ** >> >> >(transit in Ketu also represents Moon.) >> ** Will you please explain why this is so. Ketu is in Virgo ruled >> by Mercury and in constellation Chitra ruled by Mars ** >> > >> > If we study the chart, The Mars is situated in 10th >house, >> >aspect 5th house. This Mars is situated in the constellation of >> >Venus. and also in the navamansha of Venus. Such combination gives >> >loss of male child. Female child can servive, but may have some >> >problem with them also, There is more chances of mentaly retarded >> >female child. The affliction of 5th house creates such problems. >> > This is known as sarpa shap, which reduces the life of >male >> >child, or no male child. >> ** It is interesting also that Mars afflicts Rahu on the MEP of >> 5th house of Jupiter's sign. This was EXACTLY conjuncted by last >> Solar Eclipse Venus malefic Lord of the 12th house!! ** >> >> > Both the events happened at the same time. A thought >> >regarding Moons travel came forward. It is a research work. and >> >should be checked. It should be proved with many charts. >> > Planets having dual lord ship can give two similar >results >> >at a time. Both may be favorable, or both may be unfavorable, or >one >> >result favorable and other with in few hours unfavorable. >> >krushna >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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