Charts and Blind Charts

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Respected Krushna and List Members,

I am not sure what it is like in India but my experiences in the Western World and particulary in astrology in the western world has shown me that there are a limited number of things that clients ask astrologers - these are given below.

1) Will I get married and if so when.

2) Will I have children, If so what sex and how many,

3)Will I be rich or at least have enough money ( Whoever has that).

4)What will my future health be like.

5)When will I die

6) What will the coming year bring for me.

7) Various personal questions depending on the particular client.

 

Now as far as question 1 is concerned we have aleady dealt with this matter and can predict this reasonably well. (I hope). As far as question 5 is concerned we shouldn't answer it anyway and as far as question 7 is concerned this will depend on the client and his/her particular problems. This leaves us with question 2, 3, 4, and 6 which could make very useful exercises. While I believe that blind charts are very useful for making ourselves familiar with the system I also believe that finding out how to cope with the above question would also make us familiar with the system and at the same time serve a very useful purpose in our learning. I would like to suggest therefore that alternating a chart showing how to calculate any of the above questions with the normal blind charts would be a very good idea. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

I give here a chart which could serve as a first attempt.

Karen

Born 10th June 1960

Time 04:35 am

Manchester UK

1 hour Daylight savings in force

Longitude 2W13 Latitude 53N30

Lagna 23*21' Gemini

 

The question is Will she have children? If so how many and what sex.

 

Peter

Namaste

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Respected Peterji and All the list members,

Your Suggestion is very nice. We should deal with the childrens.

5th house Indicates the children. So taking 5th as House 'B' 12th house

becames 'A' 2nd house is D, and 10th house is E. 9th house becames C. The

Karkatva for childern goes to lord A. If lord of A or house A is

debilated, then the chances of children depends upon the debilation. Again

the lord of B, and the planets in B should be favoring the event. house 'C'

and its lord and planets in C should be good. And lastly the lords of D and

E and planets in D and E are respondent for the child.

For the chart given:

(2)point: The Mars is the lord of 12th house. Now current Dasha is

also favorable. As per the work sheet Me, Ju, and Sa are favorable. Currect

Sub period is of Rahu, (Su, Su,) Next sub is of Jupiter , starts from 1st

Dec 2001. The Ketu in 10th house represents Sa and Ju. There fore this

period is favorable for conception. The transit of Sun in Pisces last 13

degrees will be the favorable period. it is in April. The current period

from 2nd April can also be favorable, because the delivery will be in Sub of

Jupiter.

When the points in 3:6:10th and 11th house are in rising order,

first child is Female. Here those are not in rising order, so more chances

for Male child.

The Moon Constellation in transit is also very important. This

native should have mating for male child, when Moon is in Bharani, Kritika,

Aradra, Pu.V. Pusya, Ashlesha, Hasta, Chitra, Swati, Jestha, Mula, Pu. Sha,

and Pu Bha. ( this depends upon the current age of the native)

Remaing stars gives female child. The mating should be in the earli

hours of the stars. Conception may take place some 6to 12 hours late. So at

the time of conception moon shoul have its transit in above stars. This

should be after 11 days from the date of M.C. and before 18 days.

About this I will give a detail write up.

 

(4) Point: Now about Health, We can consider the sixth house, the

planets with more then 12 points will be good for good health, and less then

12 points will be trouble some. Sun's transit in the sign or the

constelation of the planets getting less points will give temp. trouble.

For some mazor illness, such as Cancer, Heart problems etc we will

deal seperately.

(3) point: The financial status and earning of the person can be

judged from 11th house. Dasha and Transit of Sun can give the correct idea

of the thing.

(6) In the work sheet, (Summery) Points for each planets for each house

can be find out. So I think it is not difficult to judge the results about

coming period. There are two types of results, one is due to Dasha, and

other due to transit of Sun.

 

We will do some excercise on these, so every body will get good idea.

thanks

krushna

 

 

 

> " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay

>

>

>Re: Charts and Blind Charts

>Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:56:42 +1000

>

>Respected Krushna and List Members,

>I am not sure what it is like in India but my experiences in the Western

>World and particulary in astrology in the western world has shown me that

>there are a limited number of things that clients ask astrologers - these

>are given below.

>1) Will I get married and if so when.

>2) Will I have children, If so what sex and how many,

>3)Will I be rich or at least have enough money ( Whoever has that).

>4)What will my future health be like.

>5)When will I die

>6) What will the coming year bring for me.

>7) Various personal questions depending on the particular client.

>

>Now as far as question 1 is concerned we have aleady dealt with this matter

>and can predict this reasonably well. (I hope). As far as question 5 is

>concerned we shouldn't answer it anyway and as far as question 7 is

>concerned this will depend on the client and his/her particular problems.

>This leaves us with question 2, 3, 4, and 6 which could make very useful

>exercises. While I believe that blind charts are very useful for making

>ourselves familiar with the system I also believe that finding out how to

>cope with the above question would also make us familiar with the system

>and at the same time serve a very useful purpose in our learning. I would

>like to suggest therefore that alternating a chart showing how to calculate

>any of the above questions with the normal blind charts would be a very

>good idea. Any comments on this would be appreciated.

>I give here a chart which could serve as a first attempt.

>Karen

>Born 10th June 1960

>Time 04:35 am

>Manchester UK

>1 hour Daylight savings in force

>Longitude 2W13 Latitude 53N30

>Lagna 23*21' Gemini

>

>The question is Will she have children? If so how many and what sex.

>

>Peter

>Namaste

 

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Respected Krushna and List,

Thank you for the start to the analysis of Karens chart. I am afraid I

accidently misled you slightly regarding this chart. The lady in question is

another of my students whose life history I know quite well - this is why I

chose this one particularly so that I could give you the answers afterwards.

It was meant that you should assume that the lady came to you say 22 years

ago at the age of 18 and asked you the questions which you have been

answering. From the date of birth you can see that the lady is aged 40 and

there is no question of her having children in the future. Really the

question should have read what would you have answered from her chart had

she come to you at the age of 18.

Most of what you answered of course still applies and will be very useful it

is only a question of " don't look in the future for the question of

children " .

Hope this hasn't inconvenienced you too much.

 

Peter

Namaste

[Guest guest]

Respected Peter,

Yes, I thought, You are asking me when she can have child. From your

question it was not clear, If you would have given the date of marriage, and

a HINT that she have child, so I would have gone in past. In India Women

after 40 looses M.C. maximum age is 45. From your question, I assumed that

the lady is having her M.C. continued. So I did not bothered to check past

period, and considered only future period.

any how I have given the process how to calculate.

Actually for finding the Child birth, the chart of female and male must

be considered. Both must show same period. So we can go for correct date/

period. I have not considered her age, Because the lady is from Western

culture, So I have not asked her husbands chART also.

Any how If she is having her M.C. continued, and not had any operation,

she can have child in the period I have shown. (Ha Ha Ha )

The answer is correct, can be taken as guidance.

She must have got child in the similar period. Regarding the sex of

the child, husband is more responsible. If the husband is having points in

3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th house in rising order, and the Sub period of 2nd

lord or its samdharmi is in operation, the first child is is female. If the

husband is taking more risk in bussiness, or service, and have some worries,

defenitely he gets forst child of female sex.

If possible give the date of marriage of the person, and also the

chart of her husband, so it will be more helpful to understand other

members.

thanks

krushna

 

> " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay

>

>

>Re: Charts and Blind Charts

>Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:38:48 +1000

>

>Respected Krushna and List,

>Thank you for the start to the analysis of Karens chart. I am afraid I

>accidently misled you slightly regarding this chart. The lady in question

>is

>another of my students whose life history I know quite well - this is why I

>chose this one particularly so that I could give you the answers

>afterwards.

>It was meant that you should assume that the lady came to you say 22 years

>ago at the age of 18 and asked you the questions which you have been

>answering. From the date of birth you can see that the lady is aged 40 and

>there is no question of her having children in the future. Really the

>question should have read what would you have answered from her chart had

>she come to you at the age of 18.

>Most of what you answered of course still applies and will be very useful

>it

>is only a question of " don't look in the future for the question of

>children " .

>Hope this hasn't inconvenienced you too much.

>

>Peter

>Namaste

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Peterji

 

>Western World and particulary in astrology in the western world has shown

>me that there are a limited number of things that clients ask astrologers -

>these are given below.

>1) Will I get married and if so when. " ( This question is related to future

>event) "

>2) Will I have children, If so what sex and how many, " ( This is also for

>Future event) "

>3)Will I be rich or at least have enough money ( Whoever has that). " (

>Related to Future) "

>4)What will my future health be like. " ( Related to Future) "

>5)When will I die " (Related to Future) "

>6) What will the coming year bring for me. " ( related to Future) "

>7) Various personal questions depending on the particular client.

>

>Now as far as question .............above questions with the normal blind

>charts would be a very good idea. Any comments on this would be

>appreciated.

>I give here a chart which could serve as a first attempt.

>Karen

>Born 10th June 1960

>Time 04:35 am

>Manchester UK

>1 hour Daylight savings in force

>Longitude 2W13 Latitude 53N30

>Lagna 23*21' Gemini

>

>The question is " Will she have children? If so how many and what sex. "

> THIS QUESTION IS RELATED TO FUTURE. IT MEANS SHE DO NOT HAVE ANY CHILDERN

>AT PRESENT, BUT IS CAPABLE TO CARRY. ( MEANS SHE HAVE HER M.C. REGULAR AND

>HAVE NORMAL HEALTH)

IF IT WAS ME TO ASK SUCH QUESTION I WOULD HAVE ASKED : WOULD SHE HAD

CHILDREN? ..... OR IN BETTER WAY:- HOW MANY CHILDREN SHE HAVE, WHEN THEY

BORN, AND WHAT IS THEIR SEX?

IN INDIA EVERY BODY WILL TAKE THE SAME MEANING. I HAVE CONFIRMED IT WITH

SOME PERSONS, SO CALLED TEACHERS OF ENGLISH.

AFTER RECEIVING YOUR MAIL, AFTER MY ANSWER, TO CONFIRM WHAT I HAVE READ

IN YOUR EARLIER MAIL, I RE OPENED THIS MAIL.

THIS IS DUE TO DIFFERENCE OF ENGLISH YOU USE AND WHAT IS USED IN INDIA.

One more thing is confusing me is the Lagna. You have mensioned 23*21'

Gemini, and I am getting Taurus. I have deducted one hour D.S.T. and taken

birth time as 3:35.am

Please also confirm which is correct?

with kind regards

krushna

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[Guest guest]

Hello Peter, I'm also getting Taurus ascendent. Great Britain normally has

G.M.T. and at that moment Summertime was on.

By the way, I also misunderstood your message

Margarita

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Peter Sutcliffe <petermay

 

Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:38 PM

Re: Charts and Blind Charts

 

 

> Respected Krushna and List,

> Thank you for the start to the analysis of Karens chart. I am afraid I

> accidently misled you slightly regarding this chart. The lady in question

is

> another of my students whose life history I know quite well - this is why

I

> chose this one particularly so that I could give you the answers

afterwards.

> It was meant that you should assume that the lady came to you say 22 years

> ago at the age of 18 and asked you the questions which you have been

> answering. From the date of birth you can see that the lady is aged 40 and

> there is no question of her having children in the future. Really the

> question should have read what would you have answered from her chart had

> she come to you at the age of 18.

> Most of what you answered of course still applies and will be very useful

it

> is only a question of " don't look in the future for the question of

> children " .

> Hope this hasn't inconvenienced you too much.

>

> Peter

> Namaste

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Krushna,

My appo;ogies you are correct the lagna is in fact Taurus. I was writing the

letter at 1.00am and do not hink too well at that time.

I am not quite sure what you are referring to regards your query concerning

my English and yours. I appreciate their will be differences and I thought

that I had clarified the fact that my original letter had been misleading

annd corrected it. In case it is still not clear let me go over it again.

Karen got married in 1980 and the birth details for her chart are as given

in the original letter ( except that the Lagna is Taurus not Gemini). What I

wanted was that we should consider the chart as if she had come to us at the

age of 20 just before her marriage for advice concerning children, health

and finances.

I know the answers to these questions as of the present time but would like

to see how we would need to go about arriving at those answers, so that the

same technique can be applied to future queries to which we do not know the

answers.

I hope it is now clear to you and I am very sorry if I have caused any

confusion and extra work.

 

Peter

Namaste

[Guest guest]

Respected Peterji,

Yes now every thing is clear. I am writing few things about

children. I will post it, part today, and part tomorrow. That will be some

what helpful for other members to solve such problems.

krushna

 

 

> " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay

>

>

>Re: Charts and Blind Charts

>Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:51:42 +1000

>

>Respected Krushna,

>My appo;ogies you are correct the lagna is in fact Taurus. I was writing

>the

>letter at 1.00am and do not hink too well at that time.

>I am not quite sure what you are referring to regards your query concerning

>my English and yours. I appreciate their will be differences and I thought

>that I had clarified the fact that my original letter had been misleading

>annd corrected it. In case it is still not clear let me go over it again.

>Karen got married in 1980 and the birth details for her chart are as given

>in the original letter ( except that the Lagna is Taurus not Gemini). What

>I

>wanted was that we should consider the chart as if she had come to us at

>the

>age of 20 just before her marriage for advice concerning children, health

>and finances.

>I know the answers to these questions as of the present time but would like

>to see how we would need to go about arriving at those answers, so that the

>same technique can be applied to future queries to which we do not know the

>answers.

>I hope it is now clear to you and I am very sorry if I have caused any

>confusion and extra work.

>

>Peter

>Namaste

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Krushna,

The date of marriage was 1st March 1980. Her husbands data is as below.

 

John

Date of Birth 19th March 1956

Time 02:11 AM

No daylight savings in operation

Time Zone GMT

Place Manchester 2W13 53N30

Lagna 00:08 Sagitarrius.

 

Peter

Namaste