Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Dear Margarita - I think there is a confusion somewhere in the points. If I understand well, only the points, this means that the bindus the 12th house lord (Sun or Moon) has in its sign have to be added again to the planet they aspect and NOT the points of their "basic strenght". (for example : if the Moon is 12th lord, has 5 points in her sign and aspects Mercury the worksheet will take off those 5 points like it does for other planets. Just for Moon and Sun, if they aspect a planet, add the points back to that aspected planet) That's what I thought anyway. Could you check that? Since I'm hardly an authority on this at this time, I am obviously misunderstanding something somewhere. Instead of theorizing about it, perhaps Krushna should give us all another brush up lesson on the 12th house lords again? I'm not feeling very well today (caught a cold) and thinking is just giving me brain cramps. . . Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Dear Donna, I think there is a confusion somewhere in the points. If I understand well, only the points, this means that the bindus the 12th house lord (Sun or Moon) has in its sign have to be added again to the planet they aspect and NOT the points of their "basic strenght". (for example : if the Moon is 12th lord, has 5 points in her sign and aspects Mercury the worksheet will take off those 5 points like it does for other planets. Just for Moon and Sun, if they aspect a planet, add the points back to that aspected planet) That's what I thought anyway. Could you check that? Thanks for all your work, I'm sure everybody appreciates it. Kind regards Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Dear Margarita - Well don't worry. I hope bindus won't keep you awake. Get well soon. Thanks, I'm doing my best. . . ) Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Dear Margarita and Donna and other list members, When Sun and Moon are lord of 12th lord, then they should be treated as ordinery ( means not as lord of 12th house). It means If they have their sight with more points, it will be malefic, and will reduce the point from the planet they aspects. In the same way if they are will less points, their sight is considered as benefic. There fore the planet having their aspect will get points added. Sun and Moon should not be considered as 12th lord. They should be treated as normal way, even if they are 12th lord. krushna > " Lettens " <dmlettens > > > difference in values of worksheet >Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:48:27 +0200 > >Dear Donna, >I think there is a confusion somewhere in the points. >If I understand well, only the points, this means that the bindus the 12th >house lord (Sun or Moon) has in its sign have to be added again to the >planet they aspect and NOT the points of their " basic strenght " . >(for example : if the Moon is 12th lord, has 5 points in her sign and >aspects Mercury the worksheet will take off those 5 points like it does for >other planets. Just for Moon and Sun, if they aspect a planet, add the >points back to that aspected planet) >That's what I thought anyway. Could you check that? >Thanks for all your work, I'm sure everybody appreciates it. >Kind regards >Margarita _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Well don't worry. I hope bindus won't keep you awake. Get well soon. Best wishes Margarita - DQuinn12 Wednesday, March 28, 2001 7:44 PM Re: difference in values of worksheet Dear Margarita - I think there is a confusion somewhere in the points. If I understand well, only the points, this means that the bindus the 12th house lord (Sun or Moon) has in its sign have to be added again to the planet they aspect and NOT the points of their "basic strenght". (for example : if the Moon is 12th lord, has 5 points in her sign and aspects Mercury the worksheet will take off those 5 points like it does for other planets. Just for Moon and Sun, if they aspect a planet, add the points back to that aspected planet) That's what I thought anyway. Could you check that? Since I'm hardly an authority on this at this time, I am obviously misunderstanding something somewhere. Instead of theorizing about it, perhaps Krushna should give us all another brush up lesson on the 12th house lords again? I'm not feeling very well today (caught a cold) and thinking is just giving me brain cramps. . . Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 Dear Krushna - When Sun and Moon are lord of 12th lord, then they should be treated as ordinery ( means not as lord of 12th house). It means If they have their sight with more points, it will be malefic, and will reduce the point from the planet they aspects. In the same way if they are will less points, their sight is considered as benefic. There fore the planet having their aspect will get points added. Sun and Moon should not be considered as 12th lord. They should be treated as normal way, even if they are 12th lord. Then you're saying here that we shouldn't have to make any adjustments in the worksheet at all for the Sun and the Moon as lords of the 12th house? Now I'm totally confused!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 Dear Donna, I will rewrite the process. 1. If any planet except Sun and Moon are lord of 12th house from house B, then any points gained by any other planet due to the sight of 12th lord, should be deducted. So we will get the actual points of the planet for giving the results. 2. If any planet( with less points) is situated in the tenth house from 12th lord (of house B), then the points of basic strength of 12th lord should not be added to the planet in the 10th place. 3. If the lord of 12th house is with more points ( more then 4) then its sight is automatically malefic, so not necessary to give any effect. For Example we will take the chart of Karen Given by Peter. Suppose we have to find the power of significators for 12th house. It is a chart with Taurus Lagna. Sun and Venus is situated in Lagna, Mercury in 2nd, Rahu in 4th, Moon, Jupiter and Saturn are in 8th house and Mars in 12th. Now we are finding the power of significators for 12th house as B. Now here Jupiter is the lord of 12th house from B, ( 11th house). It is situated in 8th house, so Mars and Mercury is having its aspect. . As Jupiter is with 2 points, so in general it's sight is benefic. If we consider the results of other houses, except 9th and 12th house, then we will add six points to Mars and Mercury. Now for the 12th house and 9th house, Jupiter is lord of 12th house from house B. In this case we should not add the points to Mars and Mercury due to the sight of Jupiter. I think the work sheet automatically adds the points due to the sight of any planet, so we should consider such points added should be deducted. The 12th lord from any house is considered as malefic for the result indicated by that house. So for getting the correct strength of the planets we should deduct such points ( which are added in the work sheet). Suppose in the above chart the Jupiter is having more then 4 points say 6 points. So its sight will be malefic of -ve 6 points. In such case no effect should be given, because 6 points will be automatically deducted. Sun and Moon, even if they are 12th lords they do not spoil the result of house B. So we do not give any effect to those planets. If sun or Moon is with less points then its sight will be benefic, so their sight will increase the points for the planet having sight. So I say if Sun and Moon are 12th lord, from house B, treat them as normal planets. I think this will clear. Still if you are having any doubt, I will try to explain again. thanks krushna >DQuinn12 > > > Re: difference in values of worksheet >Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:40:31 EST > >Dear Krushna - > > > > When Sun and Moon are lord of 12th lord, then they should be treated as > > ordinery ( means not as lord of 12th house). It means If they have their > > sight with more points, it will be malefic, and will reduce the point >from > > the planet they aspects. In the same way if they are will less points, > > their > > sight is considered as benefic. There fore the planet having their >aspect > > will get points added. > > Sun and Moon should not be considered as 12th lord. They should >be > > treated as normal way, even if they are 12th lord. > > > >Then you're saying here that we shouldn't have to make any adjustments in >the >worksheet at all for the Sun and the Moon as lords of the 12th house? Now >I'm >totally confused!! > >Donna _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2001 Report Share Posted March 30, 2001 Respected Krushna, I am still not clear what happens if the Sun or Moon are 12th lord. Should their basic strength be added to the planet in the 10th place. The part about their aspects was already clear. Peter Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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