Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 Dear Krushna, Could you please send the Sarva worksheet for this chart, the person that married on March 29th 2001. Thank You, Sylvia ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 Respected Krushna, I have just been studying your explanation for the timing event for the marriage of young girl. I was able to follow your explanation but I think I have found a couple of errors in it, I may be wrong and I'm not sure that they would make any difference to the outcome but here they are. 1) You say Lord of the 2nd 7th, and 11th house are not having sight of Saturn. On my chart Mars is the lord of the 2nd and the 7th and it DOES aspect Saturn with its 8th aspect 2) Further down you say that Marsthe FK gives Zero in the 4th and 8th houses. In my chart of the sarvashtakavarga points Mars does get Zero in the 4th but it gets 3 points in the eigth. As I say I'm not sure whether it would make a difference or perhaps I have just made a mistake in what you are saying. I'm not sure could you please explain. By the way I looked at the chart and worksheet and my explanation was this. Saturn is the strongest planet in the worksheet and shoould therefore be the indicating sub-period. However as Saturn aspects house A it is disqualified so that its samdharmi can take its place. Jupiter is the samdharmi of Saturn therefore the marriage can take place in the sub-period of Jupiter. As Saturn is very involved in the marriage it should take place in the last one third of the Jupiter sub-period. The Sun can then be brought into play exactly as shown in your explanation. Respectfully, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 Respected Peterji, Pranam, We consider the sight of Saturn on the lord of A,B,and C for delay. You are talking about the sight of lord of A and B on Saturn. These are two different things. For second point I made mistake Mars (FK) is giving zero in 4th house and Saturn ( lord of D) giving zero in 8th house. Sorry in hurry I ommited some portion. Remaining what you say is correct. Only Saturn being the lord of house D do not effect for it's sight on A,B,or C. It itself or it's samdharmi can give the result, which over comes first. Thanks krushana --- Peter Sutcliffe <petermay wrote: > Respected Krushna, > I have just been studying your explanation for the > timing event for the > marriage of young girl. > I was able to follow your explanation but I think I > have found a couple of > errors in it, I may be wrong and I'm not sure that > they would make any > difference to the outcome but here they are. > 1) You say Lord of the 2nd 7th, and 11th house are > not having sight of > Saturn. On my chart Mars is the lord of the 2nd and > the 7th and it DOES > aspect Saturn with its 8th aspect > 2) Further down you say that Marsthe FK gives Zero > in the 4th and 8th > houses. In my chart of the sarvashtakavarga points > Mars does get Zero in the > 4th but it gets 3 points in the eigth. > As I say I'm not sure whether it would make a > difference or perhaps I have > just made a mistake in what you are saying. I'm not > sure could you please > explain. > By the way I looked at the chart and worksheet and > my explanation was this. > Saturn is the strongest planet in the worksheet and > shoould therefore be the > indicating sub-period. However as Saturn aspects > house A it is disqualified > so that its samdharmi can take its place. Jupiter is > the samdharmi of Saturn > therefore the marriage can take place in the > sub-period of Jupiter. As > Saturn is very involved in the marriage it should > take place in the last one > third of the Jupiter sub-period. The Sun can then be > brought into play > exactly as shown in your explanation. > > Respectfully, > Peter > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 Dear sylvia, It is not mars giving zero in 8th house, it is due to Saturn . I think this will solve your problem. krushna --- sylvia linzner <sylvia261 wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> Dear Krushna,<BR> Could you please send the Sarva worksheet for this chart, the person that<BR> married on March 29th 2001.<BR> Thank You,<BR> Sylvia <BR> ______________<BR> GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!<BR> Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!<BR> Join Juno today! & nbsp; For your FREE software, visit:<BR> <a href= " http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. " >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.</a><BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 Respected Krushna, I am not sure what you mean when you say that I making mistake and that it is house lord of A and B which has sight on Saturn. This is not the case I was looking a Saturn 3rd sight on House A not the aspect of Mars on Saturn. You also did not reply to the point regarding the lord of the 2nd and 7th not having an aspect on Saturn. In you reply to me you have in fact said that the lord of A (Mars) and the lord of B (Mars) have sight on Saturn. A and B are in fact the 2nd and the 7th. Respectfully Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 Respected Peterji pranam, I have pointed out that there is no reason for delay in the marriage. , " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay@p...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, > I have just been studying your explanation for the timing event for the > marriage of young girl. > I was able to follow your explanation but I think I have found a couple of > errors in it, I may be wrong and I'm not sure that they would make any > difference to the outcome but here they are. > 1) You say Lord of the 2nd 7th, and 11th house are not having sight ___________________ of_Saturn. On my chart Mars is the lord of the 2nd and the 7th and it ___________________ DOES aspect Saturn with its 8th aspect ?( WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE ASPECT OF SATURN NOT OF MARS ON SATURN.FOR DELAY) ______ > 2) Further down you say that Marsthe FK gives Zero in the 4th and 8th > houses. In my chart of the sarvashtakavarga points Mars does get Zero in the > 4th but it gets 3 points in the eigth. I MISSED SOME WORDS IN TYPING, IT SHOULD BE READ " MARS THE FK GIVES ZERO IN 4TH HOUSE AND SATURN IN 8TH HOUSE " ) SORRY FOR THAT........KRUSHNA > As I say I'm not sure whether it would make a difference or perhaps I have > just made a mistake in what you are saying. I'm not sure could you please > explain. > By the way I looked at the chart and worksheet and my explanation was this. > Saturn is the strongest planet in the worksheet and shoould therefore be the > indicating sub-period. However as Saturn aspects house A it is disqualified > so that its samdharmi can take its place. Jupiter is the samdharmi of Saturn > therefore the marriage can take place in the sub-period of Jupiter. As > Saturn is very involved in the marriage it should take place in the last one > third of the Jupiter sub-period. The Sun can then be brought into play > exactly as shown in your explanation. > > Respectfully, > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 Respected Peterji Pranam, Please se answer 1621. krushna , " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay@p...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, > I am not sure what you mean when you say that I making mistake and that it > is house lord of A and B which has sight on Saturn. This is not the case I > was looking a Saturn 3rd sight on House A not the aspect of Mars on Saturn. > You also did not reply to the point regarding the lord of the 2nd and 7th > not having an aspect on Saturn. In you reply to me you have in fact said > that the lord of A (Mars) and the lord of B (Mars) have sight on Saturn. A > and B are in fact the 2nd and the 7th. > > Respectfully > > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 Respected Krushna, Your reply 1621 as far as I can see after repeated readings does not give a reply to my comment that I WAS IN FACT CONSIDERING THE ASPECTS OF SATURN FOR DELAY NOT MARS. I was considering the 3rd aspect of Saturn which is on House A. I was NOT considering the aspect of the 2nd and 7th Lords aspect on Saturn (in each case the lord is Mars) Respectfully, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2001 Report Share Posted April 21, 2001 Respected Peterji, Pranam, Yes I got the point. For delay, Saturn should have it's sight on A,B, C houses or on their lord. Sight on all the three may be a combination of lord and houses, means suppose if Saturn is aspecting house A and lord of B and C, still it can be condsidered for delay. Sight of Saturn should be on atleast two houses or its lord, For remaining house it should be either lord or samdharmi to the lord of remaining house. There is no effect if its sight is only on one house. When we consider Saturn sight on houses or lords, Jupiter should not have its sight on Saturn. If it is so then delay will be reduced. Sorry I have not understand what you were saying. thanks krushna , " Peter Sutcliffe " <petermay@p...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, > Your reply 1621 as far as I can see after repeated readings does not give a > reply to my comment that I WAS IN FACT CONSIDERING THE ASPECTS OF SATURN FOR > DELAY NOT MARS. I was considering the 3rd aspect of Saturn which is on House > A. > I was NOT considering the aspect of the 2nd and 7th Lords aspect on Saturn > (in each case the lord is Mars) > > Respectfully, > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 iN THIS MAIL WHICH IS NO:1600 in archives Krushna Ji has explained very well the timing of event of marriage. In this Samdharni Jupiter comes forward to give the event although the Saturn period was immediately following Jupiter and the girl was only 18 years old,for blind analysis considering the high points of Saturn one would have surely opted for Saturn sub period instead of Jupiter. Jupiter is a VERY strong Samdharni being in the same sign,Navamsa and nakshartra.Saturn in this case has 1 point and Jupiter has 4 both lying in the 12th house. QUESTION: SUPPOSE SATURN HAS 4 points and Jupiter has 4.HOW WOULD THIS CHANGE THE RESULT what I mean so say is had Saturn been strong in Bindus .Do you think Jupiter would still have come forward to give the result. RGds > Respected Ron and other members > > Solving the worksheet, we get strength of all the planets for > all the house. > First thing we mst find wether marriage is late or early. The > Venus, NK is good. Mars FK for 7th house is also good ( it is weak > for 12th house). Saturn is aspecting only 2nd house, other B and C do > not have it's sight. Lord of 2,7,and 11th house are not having sight > of Saturn. So there is no reason to delay the marriage. > > Now the question is regarding the marriage. > So considering the 7th house as B we should find the strength of the > planets. Saturn is most power ful planet, and also lord of house D, > and situated in E along with Ju. Saturn and Ju both are in the same > Constellation and same navamansha. So Jupiter becames samdharmi to > Saturn. > Jupiter is lord of 6th house. which is 12th from 7th. Mars the > functional karak gives zero in 4th and 8th house. For the time being > we will keep it aside. > So Jupiter can give the result for saturn. As per law female > should be above 18 years. She became 18 yrs in Mars sub. First thing > when there is a limiting of age, say for delay in the marriage, if > such age is completeted in the last sector of the sub period, it can > not give the result. ( House E for any house B, are the next result > of B, Marriage is resulted in Bed comphart, Means if we take House E > for 7th house, as B then 7th house (B) becames A for 12th house. > The Mars is weak for 12th house. > So we can say that the marriage can be performed in Jupiter. In > this case 7th lord is in 5th along with 12th lord, indicates the > person (native) will choose her mat herself. > Now Jupiter which is strong significator and samdharmi to Lord > D, and the stronest significator can give marriage. Now as Jupiter is > related to Saturn, so the marriage can be in the 3rd part of Jupiter > sub. > Now We have fixed Jupiter, now remains Saturn so transit of sun > can be related to Saturn. ( Mars and Moon have been discarded for > being weak for 12th house. The third phase ( part) starts from 24th > Feb 2001, and transit of Sun can be in the last of March 2001 in the > constellation of Saturn and Sign of Jupiter. > So I have selected this period. and told to her father about > this. He did not take it serious. So on 30th his daughter told him > she have got married. > Here is one more thing, Jupiter is sixth lord, then how it gave > the result, or why I selected it. > Can any body say some thing about it. I will give explanation > about it on 20th . > thanks > krushna > > > > > > , Ron Gaunt <arjee@G...> wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:25:01 -0000, you wrote: > > > I have been asked for the date of marriage some 2 years back, > > >for the following chart. > > >Female > > >DOB 6th Feb 1981. B.Time 01:03 AM IST ( GMT + 5.5) At Thane 19N14, > > >73:E:08 Ayanansha 22:34:15. > > > > > >Asc 25:Li:53 > > >Sun 24:Cap:22 > > >Mo 05:Aq:48 > > >Mar 06:Aq:32 > > >Me 11:Aq:43 > > >Ju 17:Vi:35 > > >Ve 09:Cap:24 > > >Sa 16:Vi:55 > > >Rahu 18:Can:16 > > >Ke 18:cap:16 > > > > > > I have answered This person will Marry in the last 10 Days > of > > >March 2001. And the marriage will be with the person choosen by > > >herself. > > > She have married on 29th March 2001. > > > I have given in my last mail how I came to this date in > > >details. The mail is in trafic, So This is for members to think > over > > >the matter. > > > If original mail do not reach up to 16th I will answer > again. > > > > > >krushna 13th April 2001 From Web > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Krushnaji, Samina and list members, Very good question asked. :=) One thing, for Shani to get 4 bindus a planet it would mean that Shanis postion with respect to 3 other planets shoud make a favourable yog then those planets will give their support to Shani. So the complexion of the whole chart will change. Now in this case there is no happiness in marriage or there are indications of a breakup, divorse or a case of multiple marriage. So in such cases marriages happen in SD to 6th lord or weakest significator. Here Guru is 6th lord and is with 4 bindus. There is a law that when 6th lord goes into 4th or 12th then it reduces happiness from thouse houses. Here Guru and Sa who is LoD become SD to its spoiling Shani at the same time its also spoiling House E. There are again 2 zeores in SAV and lagna and 7th lords are in 2:12 and from Moon and Venus are also 6:8. Now for timing of events Guru itself will give results due to indications stated above. At the same time its also SD to Saturn who is LOD but its aspecting House A. So the law is that when LoD or LoE aspecting primary significator houses ITSELF OR ITS SD can come forward to give results. Here Guru fits that role also. So Guru will come forward to give results. I hope its clear. Krushnaji, please feel free to correct my understanding. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " saminamalik50 " <saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > iN THIS MAIL WHICH IS NO:1600 in archives Krushna Ji has explained > very well the timing of event of marriage. > > In this Samdharni Jupiter comes forward to give the event although > the Saturn period was immediately following Jupiter and the girl was > only 18 years old,for blind analysis considering the high points of > Saturn one would have surely opted for Saturn sub period instead of > Jupiter. > > Jupiter is a VERY strong Samdharni being in the same sign,Navamsa and > nakshartra.Saturn in this case has 1 point and Jupiter has 4 both > lying in the 12th house. > > QUESTION: SUPPOSE SATURN HAS 4 points and Jupiter has 4.HOW WOULD > THIS CHANGE THE RESULT what I mean so say is had Saturn been strong > in Bindus .Do you think Jupiter would still have come forward to give > the result. > > RGds > > Respected Ron and other members > > > > Solving the worksheet, we get strength of all the planets > for > > all the house. > > First thing we mst find wether marriage is late or early. > The > > Venus, NK is good. Mars FK for 7th house is also good ( it is weak > > for 12th house). Saturn is aspecting only 2nd house, other B and C > do > > not have it's sight. Lord of 2,7,and 11th house are not having > sight > > of Saturn. So there is no reason to delay the marriage. > > > > Now the question is regarding the marriage. > > So considering the 7th house as B we should find the strength of > the > > planets. Saturn is most power ful planet, and also lord of house D, > > and situated in E along with Ju. Saturn and Ju both are in the same > > Constellation and same navamansha. So Jupiter becames samdharmi to > > Saturn. > > Jupiter is lord of 6th house. which is 12th from 7th. Mars > the > > functional karak gives zero in 4th and 8th house. For the time > being > > we will keep it aside. > > So Jupiter can give the result for saturn. As per law female > > should be above 18 years. She became 18 yrs in Mars sub. First > thing > > when there is a limiting of age, say for delay in the marriage, if > > such age is completeted in the last sector of the sub period, it > can > > not give the result. ( House E for any house B, are the next result > > of B, Marriage is resulted in Bed comphart, Means if we take House > E > > for 7th house, as B then 7th house (B) becames A for 12th house. > > The Mars is weak for 12th house. > > So we can say that the marriage can be performed in Jupiter. > In > > this case 7th lord is in 5th along with 12th lord, indicates the > > person (native) will choose her mat herself. > > Now Jupiter which is strong significator and samdharmi to > Lord > > D, and the stronest significator can give marriage. Now as Jupiter > is > > related to Saturn, so the marriage can be in the 3rd part of > Jupiter > > sub. > > Now We have fixed Jupiter, now remains Saturn so transit of > sun > > can be related to Saturn. ( Mars and Moon have been discarded for > > being weak for 12th house. The third phase ( part) starts from 24th > > Feb 2001, and transit of Sun can be in the last of March 2001 in > the > > constellation of Saturn and Sign of Jupiter. > > So I have selected this period. and told to her father about > > this. He did not take it serious. So on 30th his daughter told him > > she have got married. > > Here is one more thing, Jupiter is sixth lord, then how it > gave > > the result, or why I selected it. > > Can any body say some thing about it. I will give explanation > > about it on 20th . > > thanks > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ron Gaunt <arjee@G...> wrote: > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:25:01 -0000, you wrote: > > > > I have been asked for the date of marriage some 2 years > back, > > > >for the following chart. > > > >Female > > > >DOB 6th Feb 1981. B.Time 01:03 AM IST ( GMT + 5.5) At Thane > 19N14, > > > >73:E:08 Ayanansha 22:34:15. > > > > > > > >Asc 25:Li:53 > > > >Sun 24:Cap:22 > > > >Mo 05:Aq:48 > > > >Mar 06:Aq:32 > > > >Me 11:Aq:43 > > > >Ju 17:Vi:35 > > > >Ve 09:Cap:24 > > > >Sa 16:Vi:55 > > > >Rahu 18:Can:16 > > > >Ke 18:cap:16 > > > > > > > > I have answered This person will Marry in the last 10 Days > > of > > > >March 2001. And the marriage will be with the person choosen by > > > >herself. > > > > She have married on 29th March 2001. > > > > I have given in my last mail how I came to this date in > > > >details. The mail is in trafic, So This is for members to think > > over > > > >the matter. > > > > If original mail do not reach up to 16th I will answer > > again. > > > > > > > >krushna 13th April 2001 From Web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Ash; I have not been able to put my question correctly,I am giving it another attempt: IF IN THIS CASE SA HAD 3 POINTS AND JUPITER HAD 2 ALL OTHER CONDITIONS REMAINING THE SAME......Will Ju still take over as Samdharni to give the result for 7th house. Rgds > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 > > > Re: Explaination for timing event >Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:29:03 -0000 > >Dear Krushnaji, Samina and list members, > >Very good question asked. :=) > >One thing, for Shani to get 4 bindus a planet it would mean that >Shanis postion with respect to 3 other planets shoud make a >favourable yog then those planets will give their support to Shani. >So the complexion of the whole chart will change. > >Now in this case there is no happiness in marriage or there are >indications of a breakup, divorse or a case of multiple marriage. So >in such cases marriages happen in SD to 6th lord or weakest >significator. > >Here Guru is 6th lord and is with 4 bindus. There is a law that when >6th lord goes into 4th or 12th then it reduces happiness from thouse >houses. Here Guru and Sa who is LoD become SD to its spoiling Shani >at the same time its also spoiling House E. There are again 2 zeores >in SAV and lagna and 7th lords are in 2:12 and from Moon and Venus >are also 6:8. > >Now for timing of events Guru itself will give results due to >indications stated above. At the same time its also SD to Saturn who >is LOD but its aspecting House A. So the law is that when LoD or LoE >aspecting primary significator houses ITSELF OR ITS SD can come >forward to give results. Here Guru fits that role also. > >So Guru will come forward to give results. > >I hope its clear. > >Krushnaji, please feel free to correct my understanding. > >Thanking you, >Cheers !!! >Ash > > > , " saminamalik50 " ><saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > > iN THIS MAIL WHICH IS NO:1600 in archives Krushna Ji has explained > > very well the timing of event of marriage. > > > > In this Samdharni Jupiter comes forward to give the event although > > the Saturn period was immediately following Jupiter and the girl >was > > only 18 years old,for blind analysis considering the high points of > > Saturn one would have surely opted for Saturn sub period instead of > > Jupiter. > > > > Jupiter is a VERY strong Samdharni being in the same sign,Navamsa >and > > nakshartra.Saturn in this case has 1 point and Jupiter has 4 both > > lying in the 12th house. > > > > QUESTION: SUPPOSE SATURN HAS 4 points and Jupiter has 4.HOW WOULD > > THIS CHANGE THE RESULT what I mean so say is had Saturn been strong > > in Bindus .Do you think Jupiter would still have come forward to >give > > the result. > > > > RGds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ron and other members > > > > > > Solving the worksheet, we get strength of all the planets > > for > > > all the house. > > > First thing we mst find wether marriage is late or early. > > The > > > Venus, NK is good. Mars FK for 7th house is also good ( it is >weak > > > for 12th house). Saturn is aspecting only 2nd house, other B and >C > > do > > > not have it's sight. Lord of 2,7,and 11th house are not having > > sight > > > of Saturn. So there is no reason to delay the marriage. > > > > > > Now the question is regarding the marriage. > > > So considering the 7th house as B we should find the strength of > > the > > > planets. Saturn is most power ful planet, and also lord of house >D, > > > and situated in E along with Ju. Saturn and Ju both are in the >same > > > Constellation and same navamansha. So Jupiter becames samdharmi >to > > > Saturn. > > > Jupiter is lord of 6th house. which is 12th from 7th. Mars > > the > > > functional karak gives zero in 4th and 8th house. For the time > > being > > > we will keep it aside. > > > So Jupiter can give the result for saturn. As per law >female > > > should be above 18 years. She became 18 yrs in Mars sub. First > > thing > > > when there is a limiting of age, say for delay in the marriage, >if > > > such age is completeted in the last sector of the sub period, it > > can > > > not give the result. ( House E for any house B, are the next >result > > > of B, Marriage is resulted in Bed comphart, Means if we take >House > > E > > > for 7th house, as B then 7th house (B) becames A for 12th house. > > > The Mars is weak for 12th house. > > > So we can say that the marriage can be performed in >Jupiter. > > In > > > this case 7th lord is in 5th along with 12th lord, indicates the > > > person (native) will choose her mat herself. > > > Now Jupiter which is strong significator and samdharmi to > > Lord > > > D, and the stronest significator can give marriage. Now as >Jupiter > > is > > > related to Saturn, so the marriage can be in the 3rd part of > > Jupiter > > > sub. > > > Now We have fixed Jupiter, now remains Saturn so transit of > > sun > > > can be related to Saturn. ( Mars and Moon have been discarded for > > > being weak for 12th house. The third phase ( part) starts from >24th > > > Feb 2001, and transit of Sun can be in the last of March 2001 in > > the > > > constellation of Saturn and Sign of Jupiter. > > > So I have selected this period. and told to her father about > > > this. He did not take it serious. So on 30th his daughter told >him > > > she have got married. > > > Here is one more thing, Jupiter is sixth lord, then how it > > gave > > > the result, or why I selected it. > > > Can any body say some thing about it. I will give >explanation > > > about it on 20th . > > > thanks > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ron Gaunt <arjee@G...> >wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:25:01 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > I have been asked for the date of marriage some 2 years > > back, > > > > >for the following chart. > > > > >Female > > > > >DOB 6th Feb 1981. B.Time 01:03 AM IST ( GMT + 5.5) At Thane > > 19N14, > > > > >73:E:08 Ayanansha 22:34:15. > > > > > > > > > >Asc 25:Li:53 > > > > >Sun 24:Cap:22 > > > > >Mo 05:Aq:48 > > > > >Mar 06:Aq:32 > > > > >Me 11:Aq:43 > > > > >Ju 17:Vi:35 > > > > >Ve 09:Cap:24 > > > > >Sa 16:Vi:55 > > > > >Rahu 18:Can:16 > > > > >Ke 18:cap:16 > > > > > > > > > > I have answered This person will Marry in the last 10 >Days > > > of > > > > >March 2001. And the marriage will be with the person choosen >by > > > > >herself. > > > > > She have married on 29th March 2001. > > > > > I have given in my last mail how I came to this date in > > > > >details. The mail is in trafic, So This is for members to >think > > > over > > > > >the matter. > > > > > If original mail do not reach up to 16th I will answer > > > again. > > > > > > > > > >krushna 13th April 2001 From Web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Samina, Conditions cannot remain same if planets move in sign. Planets get particular bindus only w.r.t lagna and 7 planets relative positioning. Now to answer your question lets Assume the following condition. 1) From the chart there can be seen a seperation or multiple marriage. 2) Unhappiness in marriage. Now in such a case marriage can happen in 6th lords antar dasha. So in this case Guru is 6th lord and he is spoiling 12th and aspecting 4th house who is LoD so here Guru is with 4 bindus in House E so he can go eitehr way. Here he will give marriage and in future problems are seen. Now other thing. When 2 planets are in 1 sign they become Samdharmi. It does not matter how many points they have. So in this case Sa and Ju are together so they become Samdharmi to each other so they can give replacement if one is not able to give result due to say aspect or for some other reason. If this still does not answer your question please ask again. I shall try other way. If we have charts that show a particular scenario then it will be best. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Samina Malik " <saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > Dear Ash; > > I have not been able to put my question correctly,I am giving it another > attempt: > > IF IN THIS CASE SA HAD 3 POINTS AND JUPITER HAD 2 ALL OTHER CONDITIONS > REMAINING THE SAME......Will Ju still take over as Samdharni to give the > result for 7th house. > > Rgds > > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> > > > > > > Re: Explaination for timing event > >Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:29:03 -0000 > > > >Dear Krushnaji, Samina and list members, > > > >Very good question asked. :=) > > > >One thing, for Shani to get 4 bindus a planet it would mean that > >Shanis postion with respect to 3 other planets shoud make a > >favourable yog then those planets will give their support to Shani. > >So the complexion of the whole chart will change. > > > >Now in this case there is no happiness in marriage or there are > >indications of a breakup, divorse or a case of multiple marriage. So > >in such cases marriages happen in SD to 6th lord or weakest > >significator. > > > >Here Guru is 6th lord and is with 4 bindus. There is a law that when > >6th lord goes into 4th or 12th then it reduces happiness from thouse > >houses. Here Guru and Sa who is LoD become SD to its spoiling Shani > >at the same time its also spoiling House E. There are again 2 zeores > >in SAV and lagna and 7th lords are in 2:12 and from Moon and Venus > >are also 6:8. > > > >Now for timing of events Guru itself will give results due to > >indications stated above. At the same time its also SD to Saturn who > >is LOD but its aspecting House A. So the law is that when LoD or LoE > >aspecting primary significator houses ITSELF OR ITS SD can come > >forward to give results. Here Guru fits that role also. > > > >So Guru will come forward to give results. > > > >I hope its clear. > > > >Krushnaji, please feel free to correct my understanding. > > > >Thanking you, > >Cheers !!! > >Ash > > > > > > , " saminamalik50 " > ><saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > > > iN THIS MAIL WHICH IS NO:1600 in archives Krushna Ji has explained > > > very well the timing of event of marriage. > > > > > > In this Samdharni Jupiter comes forward to give the event although > > > the Saturn period was immediately following Jupiter and the girl > >was > > > only 18 years old,for blind analysis considering the high points of > > > Saturn one would have surely opted for Saturn sub period instead of > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > Jupiter is a VERY strong Samdharni being in the same sign,Navamsa > >and > > > nakshartra.Saturn in this case has 1 point and Jupiter has 4 both > > > lying in the 12th house. > > > > > > QUESTION: SUPPOSE SATURN HAS 4 points and Jupiter has 4.HOW WOULD > > > THIS CHANGE THE RESULT what I mean so say is had Saturn been strong > > > in Bindus .Do you think Jupiter would still have come forward to > >give > > > the result. > > > > > > RGds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ron and other members > > > > > > > > Solving the worksheet, we get strength of all the planets > > > for > > > > all the house. > > > > First thing we mst find wether marriage is late or early. > > > The > > > > Venus, NK is good. Mars FK for 7th house is also good ( it is > >weak > > > > for 12th house). Saturn is aspecting only 2nd house, other B and > >C > > > do > > > > not have it's sight. Lord of 2,7,and 11th house are not having > > > sight > > > > of Saturn. So there is no reason to delay the marriage. > > > > > > > > Now the question is regarding the marriage. > > > > So considering the 7th house as B we should find the strength of > > > the > > > > planets. Saturn is most power ful planet, and also lord of house > >D, > > > > and situated in E along with Ju. Saturn and Ju both are in the > >same > > > > Constellation and same navamansha. So Jupiter becames samdharmi > >to > > > > Saturn. > > > > Jupiter is lord of 6th house. which is 12th from 7th. Mars > > > the > > > > functional karak gives zero in 4th and 8th house. For the time > > > being > > > > we will keep it aside. > > > > So Jupiter can give the result for saturn. As per law > >female > > > > should be above 18 years. She became 18 yrs in Mars sub. First > > > thing > > > > when there is a limiting of age, say for delay in the marriage, > >if > > > > such age is completeted in the last sector of the sub period, it > > > can > > > > not give the result. ( House E for any house B, are the next > >result > > > > of B, Marriage is resulted in Bed comphart, Means if we take > >House > > > E > > > > for 7th house, as B then 7th house (B) becames A for 12th house. > > > > The Mars is weak for 12th house. > > > > So we can say that the marriage can be performed in > >Jupiter. > > > In > > > > this case 7th lord is in 5th along with 12th lord, indicates the > > > > person (native) will choose her mat herself. > > > > Now Jupiter which is strong significator and samdharmi to > > > Lord > > > > D, and the stronest significator can give marriage. Now as > >Jupiter > > > is > > > > related to Saturn, so the marriage can be in the 3rd part of > > > Jupiter > > > > sub. > > > > Now We have fixed Jupiter, now remains Saturn so transit of > > > sun > > > > can be related to Saturn. ( Mars and Moon have been discarded for > > > > being weak for 12th house. The third phase ( part) starts from > >24th > > > > Feb 2001, and transit of Sun can be in the last of March 2001 in > > > the > > > > constellation of Saturn and Sign of Jupiter. > > > > So I have selected this period. and told to her father about > > > > this. He did not take it serious. So on 30th his daughter told > >him > > > > she have got married. > > > > Here is one more thing, Jupiter is sixth lord, then how it > > > gave > > > > the result, or why I selected it. > > > > Can any body say some thing about it. I will give > >explanation > > > > about it on 20th . > > > > thanks > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ron Gaunt <arjee@G...> > >wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:25:01 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > > I have been asked for the date of marriage some 2 years > > > back, > > > > > >for the following chart. > > > > > >Female > > > > > >DOB 6th Feb 1981. B.Time 01:03 AM IST ( GMT + 5.5) At Thane > > > 19N14, > > > > > >73:E:08 Ayanansha 22:34:15. > > > > > > > > > > > >Asc 25:Li:53 > > > > > >Sun 24:Cap:22 > > > > > >Mo 05:Aq:48 > > > > > >Mar 06:Aq:32 > > > > > >Me 11:Aq:43 > > > > > >Ju 17:Vi:35 > > > > > >Ve 09:Cap:24 > > > > > >Sa 16:Vi:55 > > > > > >Rahu 18:Can:16 > > > > > >Ke 18:cap:16 > > > > > > > > > > > > I have answered This person will Marry in the last 10 > >Days > > > > of > > > > > >March 2001. And the marriage will be with the person choosen > >by > > > > > >herself. > > > > > > She have married on 29th March 2001. > > > > > > I have given in my last mail how I came to this date in > > > > > >details. The mail is in trafic, So This is for members to > >think > > > > over > > > > > >the matter. > > > > > > If original mail do not reach up to 16th I will answer > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > >krushna 13th April 2001 From Web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 dear Ash; What confuses me is that a Samdharmi CAN give the result,it is not essential that it must give the result. In this case the period of Sa is not far away,this is immediately followed by Ju.SA is far ahead of JU in SAV points. Therefore I was thinking that Krushna Ji chose Samdharmi because SA has less bindus than Ju. I hope I have been able to elaborate my question further. Rgds > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 > > > Re: Explaination for timing event >Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:47:06 -0000 > >Dear Samina, >Conditions cannot remain same if planets move in sign. Planets get >particular bindus only w.r.t lagna and 7 planets relative positioning. > >Now to answer your question lets Assume the following condition. > >1) From the chart there can be seen a seperation or multiple marriage. >2) Unhappiness in marriage. > >Now in such a case marriage can happen in 6th lords antar dasha. > >So in this case Guru is 6th lord and he is spoiling 12th and >aspecting 4th house who is LoD so here Guru is with 4 bindus in House >E so he can go eitehr way. Here he will give marriage and in future >problems are seen. > >Now other thing. When 2 planets are in 1 sign they become >Samdharmi. It does not matter how many points they have. > >So in this case Sa and Ju are together so they become Samdharmi to >each other so they can give replacement if one is not able to give >result due to say aspect or for some other reason. > >If this still does not answer your question please ask again. I >shall try other way. If we have charts that show a particular >scenario then it will be best. > >Thanking you, >Cheers !!! >Ash > > , " Samina Malik " ><saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > > Dear Ash; > > > > I have not been able to put my question correctly,I am giving it >another > > attempt: > > > > IF IN THIS CASE SA HAD 3 POINTS AND JUPITER HAD 2 ALL OTHER >CONDITIONS > > REMAINING THE SAME......Will Ju still take over as Samdharni to >give the > > result for 7th house. > > > > Rgds > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> > > > > > > > > > Re: Explaination for timing >event > > >Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:29:03 -0000 > > > > > >Dear Krushnaji, Samina and list members, > > > > > >Very good question asked. :=) > > > > > >One thing, for Shani to get 4 bindus a planet it would mean that > > >Shanis postion with respect to 3 other planets shoud make a > > >favourable yog then those planets will give their support to Shani. > > >So the complexion of the whole chart will change. > > > > > >Now in this case there is no happiness in marriage or there are > > >indications of a breakup, divorse or a case of multiple marriage. >So > > >in such cases marriages happen in SD to 6th lord or weakest > > >significator. > > > > > >Here Guru is 6th lord and is with 4 bindus. There is a law that >when > > >6th lord goes into 4th or 12th then it reduces happiness from >thouse > > >houses. Here Guru and Sa who is LoD become SD to its spoiling >Shani > > >at the same time its also spoiling House E. There are again 2 >zeores > > >in SAV and lagna and 7th lords are in 2:12 and from Moon and Venus > > >are also 6:8. > > > > > >Now for timing of events Guru itself will give results due to > > >indications stated above. At the same time its also SD to Saturn >who > > >is LOD but its aspecting House A. So the law is that when LoD or >LoE > > >aspecting primary significator houses ITSELF OR ITS SD can come > > >forward to give results. Here Guru fits that role also. > > > > > >So Guru will come forward to give results. > > > > > >I hope its clear. > > > > > >Krushnaji, please feel free to correct my understanding. > > > > > >Thanking you, > > >Cheers !!! > > >Ash > > > > > > > > > , " saminamalik50 " > > ><saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > > > > iN THIS MAIL WHICH IS NO:1600 in archives Krushna Ji has >explained > > > > very well the timing of event of marriage. > > > > > > > > In this Samdharni Jupiter comes forward to give the event >although > > > > the Saturn period was immediately following Jupiter and the girl > > >was > > > > only 18 years old,for blind analysis considering the high >points of > > > > Saturn one would have surely opted for Saturn sub period >instead of > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > Jupiter is a VERY strong Samdharni being in the same >sign,Navamsa > > >and > > > > nakshartra.Saturn in this case has 1 point and Jupiter has 4 >both > > > > lying in the 12th house. > > > > > > > > QUESTION: SUPPOSE SATURN HAS 4 points and Jupiter has 4.HOW >WOULD > > > > THIS CHANGE THE RESULT what I mean so say is had Saturn been >strong > > > > in Bindus .Do you think Jupiter would still have come forward to > > >give > > > > the result. > > > > > > > > RGds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ron and other members > > > > > > > > > > Solving the worksheet, we get strength of all the >planets > > > > for > > > > > all the house. > > > > > First thing we mst find wether marriage is late or >early. > > > > The > > > > > Venus, NK is good. Mars FK for 7th house is also good ( it is > > >weak > > > > > for 12th house). Saturn is aspecting only 2nd house, other B >and > > >C > > > > do > > > > > not have it's sight. Lord of 2,7,and 11th house are not having > > > > sight > > > > > of Saturn. So there is no reason to delay the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Now the question is regarding the marriage. > > > > > So considering the 7th house as B we should find the strength >of > > > > the > > > > > planets. Saturn is most power ful planet, and also lord of >house > > >D, > > > > > and situated in E along with Ju. Saturn and Ju both are in the > > >same > > > > > Constellation and same navamansha. So Jupiter becames >samdharmi > > >to > > > > > Saturn. > > > > > Jupiter is lord of 6th house. which is 12th from 7th. >Mars > > > > the > > > > > functional karak gives zero in 4th and 8th house. For the time > > > > being > > > > > we will keep it aside. > > > > > So Jupiter can give the result for saturn. As per law > > >female > > > > > should be above 18 years. She became 18 yrs in Mars sub. First > > > > thing > > > > > when there is a limiting of age, say for delay in the >marriage, > > >if > > > > > such age is completeted in the last sector of the sub period, >it > > > > can > > > > > not give the result. ( House E for any house B, are the next > > >result > > > > > of B, Marriage is resulted in Bed comphart, Means if we take > > >House > > > > E > > > > > for 7th house, as B then 7th house (B) becames A for 12th >house. > > > > > The Mars is weak for 12th house. > > > > > So we can say that the marriage can be performed in > > >Jupiter. > > > > In > > > > > this case 7th lord is in 5th along with 12th lord, indicates >the > > > > > person (native) will choose her mat herself. > > > > > Now Jupiter which is strong significator and samdharmi >to > > > > Lord > > > > > D, and the stronest significator can give marriage. Now as > > >Jupiter > > > > is > > > > > related to Saturn, so the marriage can be in the 3rd part of > > > > Jupiter > > > > > sub. > > > > > Now We have fixed Jupiter, now remains Saturn so >transit of > > > > sun > > > > > can be related to Saturn. ( Mars and Moon have been discarded >for > > > > > being weak for 12th house. The third phase ( part) starts from > > >24th > > > > > Feb 2001, and transit of Sun can be in the last of March 2001 >in > > > > the > > > > > constellation of Saturn and Sign of Jupiter. > > > > > So I have selected this period. and told to her father >about > > > > > this. He did not take it serious. So on 30th his daughter told > > >him > > > > > she have got married. > > > > > Here is one more thing, Jupiter is sixth lord, then how >it > > > > gave > > > > > the result, or why I selected it. > > > > > Can any body say some thing about it. I will give > > >explanation > > > > > about it on 20th . > > > > > thanks > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ron Gaunt <arjee@G...> > > >wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:25:01 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > > > I have been asked for the date of marriage some 2 >years > > > > back, > > > > > > >for the following chart. > > > > > > >Female > > > > > > >DOB 6th Feb 1981. B.Time 01:03 AM IST ( GMT + 5.5) At Thane > > > > 19N14, > > > > > > >73:E:08 Ayanansha 22:34:15. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Asc 25:Li:53 > > > > > > >Sun 24:Cap:22 > > > > > > >Mo 05:Aq:48 > > > > > > >Mar 06:Aq:32 > > > > > > >Me 11:Aq:43 > > > > > > >Ju 17:Vi:35 > > > > > > >Ve 09:Cap:24 > > > > > > >Sa 16:Vi:55 > > > > > > >Rahu 18:Can:16 > > > > > > >Ke 18:cap:16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have answered This person will Marry in the last 10 > > >Days > > > > > of > > > > > > >March 2001. And the marriage will be with the person >choosen > > >by > > > > > > >herself. > > > > > > > She have married on 29th March 2001. > > > > > > > I have given in my last mail how I came to this date >in > > > > > > >details. The mail is in trafic, So This is for members to > > >think > > > > > over > > > > > > >the matter. > > > > > > > If original mail do not reach up to 16th I will >answer > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >krushna 13th April 2001 From Web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Dear Samina, A samdharmi will come forward only under certain conditions. Say if a strong signficator is aspecting A,B or C house then the significator cant give results. It will depute its samdharmi to deliver the result. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " Samina Malik " <saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > dear Ash; > > What confuses me is that a Samdharmi CAN give the result,it is not essential > that it must give the result. > > In this case the period of Sa is not far away,this is immediately followed > by Ju.SA is far ahead of JU in SAV points. > > Therefore I was thinking that Krushna Ji chose Samdharmi because SA has less > bindus than Ju. > > I hope I have been able to elaborate my question further. > > Rgds > > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> > > > > > > Re: Explaination for timing event > >Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:47:06 -0000 > > > >Dear Samina, > >Conditions cannot remain same if planets move in sign. Planets get > >particular bindus only w.r.t lagna and 7 planets relative positioning. > > > >Now to answer your question lets Assume the following condition. > > > >1) From the chart there can be seen a seperation or multiple marriage. > >2) Unhappiness in marriage. > > > >Now in such a case marriage can happen in 6th lords antar dasha. > > > >So in this case Guru is 6th lord and he is spoiling 12th and > >aspecting 4th house who is LoD so here Guru is with 4 bindus in House > >E so he can go eitehr way. Here he will give marriage and in future > >problems are seen. > > > >Now other thing. When 2 planets are in 1 sign they become > >Samdharmi. It does not matter how many points they have. > > > >So in this case Sa and Ju are together so they become Samdharmi to > >each other so they can give replacement if one is not able to give > >result due to say aspect or for some other reason. > > > >If this still does not answer your question please ask again. I > >shall try other way. If we have charts that show a particular > >scenario then it will be best. > > > >Thanking you, > >Cheers !!! > >Ash > > > > , " Samina Malik " > ><saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > > > Dear Ash; > > > > > > I have not been able to put my question correctly,I am giving it > >another > > > attempt: > > > > > > IF IN THIS CASE SA HAD 3 POINTS AND JUPITER HAD 2 ALL OTHER > >CONDITIONS > > > REMAINING THE SAME......Will Ju still take over as Samdharni to > >give the > > > result for 7th house. > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Explaination for timing > >event > > > >Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:29:03 -0000 > > > > > > > >Dear Krushnaji, Samina and list members, > > > > > > > >Very good question asked. :=) > > > > > > > >One thing, for Shani to get 4 bindus a planet it would mean that > > > >Shanis postion with respect to 3 other planets shoud make a > > > >favourable yog then those planets will give their support to Shani. > > > >So the complexion of the whole chart will change. > > > > > > > >Now in this case there is no happiness in marriage or there are > > > >indications of a breakup, divorse or a case of multiple marriage. > >So > > > >in such cases marriages happen in SD to 6th lord or weakest > > > >significator. > > > > > > > >Here Guru is 6th lord and is with 4 bindus. There is a law that > >when > > > >6th lord goes into 4th or 12th then it reduces happiness from > >thouse > > > >houses. Here Guru and Sa who is LoD become SD to its spoiling > >Shani > > > >at the same time its also spoiling House E. There are again 2 > >zeores > > > >in SAV and lagna and 7th lords are in 2:12 and from Moon and Venus > > > >are also 6:8. > > > > > > > >Now for timing of events Guru itself will give results due to > > > >indications stated above. At the same time its also SD to Saturn > >who > > > >is LOD but its aspecting House A. So the law is that when LoD or > >LoE > > > >aspecting primary significator houses ITSELF OR ITS SD can come > > > >forward to give results. Here Guru fits that role also. > > > > > > > >So Guru will come forward to give results. > > > > > > > >I hope its clear. > > > > > > > >Krushnaji, please feel free to correct my understanding. > > > > > > > >Thanking you, > > > >Cheers !!! > > > >Ash > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In , " saminamalik50 " > > > ><saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > > > > > iN THIS MAIL WHICH IS NO:1600 in archives Krushna Ji has > >explained > > > > > very well the timing of event of marriage. > > > > > > > > > > In this Samdharni Jupiter comes forward to give the event > >although > > > > > the Saturn period was immediately following Jupiter and the girl > > > >was > > > > > only 18 years old,for blind analysis considering the high > >points of > > > > > Saturn one would have surely opted for Saturn sub period > >instead of > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is a VERY strong Samdharni being in the same > >sign,Navamsa > > > >and > > > > > nakshartra.Saturn in this case has 1 point and Jupiter has 4 > >both > > > > > lying in the 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > QUESTION: SUPPOSE SATURN HAS 4 points and Jupiter has 4.HOW > >WOULD > > > > > THIS CHANGE THE RESULT what I mean so say is had Saturn been > >strong > > > > > in Bindus .Do you think Jupiter would still have come forward to > > > >give > > > > > the result. > > > > > > > > > > RGds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ron and other members > > > > > > > > > > > > Solving the worksheet, we get strength of all the > >planets > > > > > for > > > > > > all the house. > > > > > > First thing we mst find wether marriage is late or > >early. > > > > > The > > > > > > Venus, NK is good. Mars FK for 7th house is also good ( it is > > > >weak > > > > > > for 12th house). Saturn is aspecting only 2nd house, other B > >and > > > >C > > > > > do > > > > > > not have it's sight. Lord of 2,7,and 11th house are not having > > > > > sight > > > > > > of Saturn. So there is no reason to delay the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the question is regarding the marriage. > > > > > > So considering the 7th house as B we should find the strength > >of > > > > > the > > > > > > planets. Saturn is most power ful planet, and also lord of > >house > > > >D, > > > > > > and situated in E along with Ju. Saturn and Ju both are in the > > > >same > > > > > > Constellation and same navamansha. So Jupiter becames > >samdharmi > > > >to > > > > > > Saturn. > > > > > > Jupiter is lord of 6th house. which is 12th from 7th. > >Mars > > > > > the > > > > > > functional karak gives zero in 4th and 8th house. For the time > > > > > being > > > > > > we will keep it aside. > > > > > > So Jupiter can give the result for saturn. As per law > > > >female > > > > > > should be above 18 years. She became 18 yrs in Mars sub. First > > > > > thing > > > > > > when there is a limiting of age, say for delay in the > >marriage, > > > >if > > > > > > such age is completeted in the last sector of the sub period, > >it > > > > > can > > > > > > not give the result. ( House E for any house B, are the next > > > >result > > > > > > of B, Marriage is resulted in Bed comphart, Means if we take > > > >House > > > > > E > > > > > > for 7th house, as B then 7th house (B) becames A for 12th > >house. > > > > > > The Mars is weak for 12th house. > > > > > > So we can say that the marriage can be performed in > > > >Jupiter. > > > > > In > > > > > > this case 7th lord is in 5th along with 12th lord, indicates > >the > > > > > > person (native) will choose her mat herself. > > > > > > Now Jupiter which is strong significator and samdharmi > >to > > > > > Lord > > > > > > D, and the stronest significator can give marriage. Now as > > > >Jupiter > > > > > is > > > > > > related to Saturn, so the marriage can be in the 3rd part of > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > sub. > > > > > > Now We have fixed Jupiter, now remains Saturn so > >transit of > > > > > sun > > > > > > can be related to Saturn. ( Mars and Moon have been discarded > >for > > > > > > being weak for 12th house. The third phase ( part) starts from > > > >24th > > > > > > Feb 2001, and transit of Sun can be in the last of March 2001 > >in > > > > > the > > > > > > constellation of Saturn and Sign of Jupiter. > > > > > > So I have selected this period. and told to her father > >about > > > > > > this. He did not take it serious. So on 30th his daughter told > > > >him > > > > > > she have got married. > > > > > > Here is one more thing, Jupiter is sixth lord, then how > >it > > > > > gave > > > > > > the result, or why I selected it. > > > > > > Can any body say some thing about it. I will give > > > >explanation > > > > > > about it on 20th . > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ron Gaunt <arjee@G...> > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:25:01 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > I have been asked for the date of marriage some 2 > >years > > > > > back, > > > > > > > >for the following chart. > > > > > > > >Female > > > > > > > >DOB 6th Feb 1981. B.Time 01:03 AM IST ( GMT + 5.5) At Thane > > > > > 19N14, > > > > > > > >73:E:08 Ayanansha 22:34:15. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Asc 25:Li:53 > > > > > > > >Sun 24:Cap:22 > > > > > > > >Mo 05:Aq:48 > > > > > > > >Mar 06:Aq:32 > > > > > > > >Me 11:Aq:43 > > > > > > > >Ju 17:Vi:35 > > > > > > > >Ve 09:Cap:24 > > > > > > > >Sa 16:Vi:55 > > > > > > > >Rahu 18:Can:16 > > > > > > > >Ke 18:cap:16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have answered This person will Marry in the last 10 > > > >Days > > > > > > of > > > > > > > >March 2001. And the marriage will be with the person > >choosen > > > >by > > > > > > > >herself. > > > > > > > > She have married on 29th March 2001. > > > > > > > > I have given in my last mail how I came to this date > >in > > > > > > > >details. The mail is in trafic, So This is for members to > > > >think > > > > > > over > > > > > > > >the matter. > > > > > > > > If original mail do not reach up to 16th I will > >answer > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >krushna 13th April 2001 From Web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Thank you ASh,it makes some what clear,in this case Sa aspects house A therefore its strong Samdharmi Ju{being in the same sign,Navamsa and constellation}comes forward to give the result.THE NUMBER OF BINDUS IS NOT IMPORTANT. RGDS > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 > > > Re: Explaination for timing event >Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:11:54 -0000 > >Dear Samina, >A samdharmi will come forward only under certain conditions. Say if >a strong signficator is aspecting A,B or C house then the >significator cant give results. It will depute its samdharmi to >deliver the result. >Thanks, >Cheers !!! >Ash > > , " Samina Malik " ><saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > > dear Ash; > > > > What confuses me is that a Samdharmi CAN give the result,it is not >essential > > that it must give the result. > > > > In this case the period of Sa is not far away,this is immediately >followed > > by Ju.SA is far ahead of JU in SAV points. > > > > Therefore I was thinking that Krushna Ji chose Samdharmi because SA >has less > > bindus than Ju. > > > > I hope I have been able to elaborate my question further. > > > > Rgds > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> > > > > > > > > > Re: Explaination for timing >event > > >Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:47:06 -0000 > > > > > >Dear Samina, > > >Conditions cannot remain same if planets move in sign. Planets get > > >particular bindus only w.r.t lagna and 7 planets relative >positioning. > > > > > >Now to answer your question lets Assume the following condition. > > > > > >1) From the chart there can be seen a seperation or multiple >marriage. > > >2) Unhappiness in marriage. > > > > > >Now in such a case marriage can happen in 6th lords antar dasha. > > > > > >So in this case Guru is 6th lord and he is spoiling 12th and > > >aspecting 4th house who is LoD so here Guru is with 4 bindus in >House > > >E so he can go eitehr way. Here he will give marriage and in >future > > >problems are seen. > > > > > >Now other thing. When 2 planets are in 1 sign they become > > >Samdharmi. It does not matter how many points they have. > > > > > >So in this case Sa and Ju are together so they become Samdharmi to > > >each other so they can give replacement if one is not able to give > > >result due to say aspect or for some other reason. > > > > > >If this still does not answer your question please ask again. I > > >shall try other way. If we have charts that show a particular > > >scenario then it will be best. > > > > > >Thanking you, > > >Cheers !!! > > >Ash > > > > > > , " Samina Malik " > > ><saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash; > > > > > > > > I have not been able to put my question correctly,I am giving it > > >another > > > > attempt: > > > > > > > > IF IN THIS CASE SA HAD 3 POINTS AND JUPITER HAD 2 ALL OTHER > > >CONDITIONS > > > > REMAINING THE SAME......Will Ju still take over as Samdharni to > > >give the > > > > result for 7th house. > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Explaination for timing > > >event > > > > >Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:29:03 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Dear Krushnaji, Samina and list members, > > > > > > > > > >Very good question asked. :=) > > > > > > > > > >One thing, for Shani to get 4 bindus a planet it would mean >that > > > > >Shanis postion with respect to 3 other planets shoud make a > > > > >favourable yog then those planets will give their support to >Shani. > > > > >So the complexion of the whole chart will change. > > > > > > > > > >Now in this case there is no happiness in marriage or there are > > > > >indications of a breakup, divorse or a case of multiple >marriage. > > >So > > > > >in such cases marriages happen in SD to 6th lord or weakest > > > > >significator. > > > > > > > > > >Here Guru is 6th lord and is with 4 bindus. There is a law >that > > >when > > > > >6th lord goes into 4th or 12th then it reduces happiness from > > >thouse > > > > >houses. Here Guru and Sa who is LoD become SD to its spoiling > > >Shani > > > > >at the same time its also spoiling House E. There are again 2 > > >zeores > > > > >in SAV and lagna and 7th lords are in 2:12 and from Moon and >Venus > > > > >are also 6:8. > > > > > > > > > >Now for timing of events Guru itself will give results due to > > > > >indications stated above. At the same time its also SD to >Saturn > > >who > > > > >is LOD but its aspecting House A. So the law is that when LoD >or > > >LoE > > > > >aspecting primary significator houses ITSELF OR ITS SD can come > > > > >forward to give results. Here Guru fits that role also. > > > > > > > > > >So Guru will come forward to give results. > > > > > > > > > >I hope its clear. > > > > > > > > > >Krushnaji, please feel free to correct my understanding. > > > > > > > > > >Thanking you, > > > > >Cheers !!! > > > > >Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In > , " saminamalik50 " > > > > ><saminamalik50@h...> wrote: > > > > > > iN THIS MAIL WHICH IS NO:1600 in archives Krushna Ji has > > >explained > > > > > > very well the timing of event of marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > In this Samdharni Jupiter comes forward to give the event > > >although > > > > > > the Saturn period was immediately following Jupiter and the >girl > > > > >was > > > > > > only 18 years old,for blind analysis considering the high > > >points of > > > > > > Saturn one would have surely opted for Saturn sub period > > >instead of > > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is a VERY strong Samdharni being in the same > > >sign,Navamsa > > > > >and > > > > > > nakshartra.Saturn in this case has 1 point and Jupiter has 4 > > >both > > > > > > lying in the 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > QUESTION: SUPPOSE SATURN HAS 4 points and Jupiter has 4.HOW > > >WOULD > > > > > > THIS CHANGE THE RESULT what I mean so say is had Saturn been > > >strong > > > > > > in Bindus .Do you think Jupiter would still have come >forward to > > > > >give > > > > > > the result. > > > > > > > > > > > > RGds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ron and other members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solving the worksheet, we get strength of all the > > >planets > > > > > > for > > > > > > > all the house. > > > > > > > First thing we mst find wether marriage is late or > > >early. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > Venus, NK is good. Mars FK for 7th house is also good ( >it is > > > > >weak > > > > > > > for 12th house). Saturn is aspecting only 2nd house, >other B > > >and > > > > >C > > > > > > do > > > > > > > not have it's sight. Lord of 2,7,and 11th house are not >having > > > > > > sight > > > > > > > of Saturn. So there is no reason to delay the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the question is regarding the marriage. > > > > > > > So considering the 7th house as B we should find the >strength > > >of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > planets. Saturn is most power ful planet, and also lord of > > >house > > > > >D, > > > > > > > and situated in E along with Ju. Saturn and Ju both are >in the > > > > >same > > > > > > > Constellation and same navamansha. So Jupiter becames > > >samdharmi > > > > >to > > > > > > > Saturn. > > > > > > > Jupiter is lord of 6th house. which is 12th from >7th. > > >Mars > > > > > > the > > > > > > > functional karak gives zero in 4th and 8th house. For the >time > > > > > > being > > > > > > > we will keep it aside. > > > > > > > So Jupiter can give the result for saturn. As per >law > > > > >female > > > > > > > should be above 18 years. She became 18 yrs in Mars sub. >First > > > > > > thing > > > > > > > when there is a limiting of age, say for delay in the > > >marriage, > > > > >if > > > > > > > such age is completeted in the last sector of the sub >period, > > >it > > > > > > can > > > > > > > not give the result. ( House E for any house B, are the >next > > > > >result > > > > > > > of B, Marriage is resulted in Bed comphart, Means if we >take > > > > >House > > > > > > E > > > > > > > for 7th house, as B then 7th house (B) becames A for 12th > > >house. > > > > > > > The Mars is weak for 12th house. > > > > > > > So we can say that the marriage can be performed in > > > > >Jupiter. > > > > > > In > > > > > > > this case 7th lord is in 5th along with 12th lord, >indicates > > >the > > > > > > > person (native) will choose her mat herself. > > > > > > > Now Jupiter which is strong significator and >samdharmi > > >to > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > D, and the stronest significator can give marriage. Now as > > > > >Jupiter > > > > > > is > > > > > > > related to Saturn, so the marriage can be in the 3rd part >of > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > sub. > > > > > > > Now We have fixed Jupiter, now remains Saturn so > > >transit of > > > > > > sun > > > > > > > can be related to Saturn. ( Mars and Moon have been >discarded > > >for > > > > > > > being weak for 12th house. The third phase ( part) starts >from > > > > >24th > > > > > > > Feb 2001, and transit of Sun can be in the last of March >2001 > > >in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > constellation of Saturn and Sign of Jupiter. > > > > > > > So I have selected this period. and told to her >father > > >about > > > > > > > this. He did not take it serious. So on 30th his daughter >told > > > > >him > > > > > > > she have got married. > > > > > > > Here is one more thing, Jupiter is sixth lord, then >how > > >it > > > > > > gave > > > > > > > the result, or why I selected it. > > > > > > > Can any body say some thing about it. I will give > > > > >explanation > > > > > > > about it on 20th . > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ron Gaunt ><arjee@G...> > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:25:01 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have been asked for the date of marriage some 2 > > >years > > > > > > back, > > > > > > > > >for the following chart. > > > > > > > > >Female > > > > > > > > >DOB 6th Feb 1981. B.Time 01:03 AM IST ( GMT + 5.5) At >Thane > > > > > > 19N14, > > > > > > > > >73:E:08 Ayanansha 22:34:15. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Asc 25:Li:53 > > > > > > > > >Sun 24:Cap:22 > > > > > > > > >Mo 05:Aq:48 > > > > > > > > >Mar 06:Aq:32 > > > > > > > > >Me 11:Aq:43 > > > > > > > > >Ju 17:Vi:35 > > > > > > > > >Ve 09:Cap:24 > > > > > > > > >Sa 16:Vi:55 > > > > > > > > >Rahu 18:Can:16 > > > > > > > > >Ke 18:cap:16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have answered This person will Marry in the >last 10 > > > > >Days > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > >March 2001. And the marriage will be with the person > > >choosen > > > > >by > > > > > > > > >herself. > > > > > > > > > She have married on 29th March 2001. > > > > > > > > > I have given in my last mail how I came to this >date > > >in > > > > > > > > >details. The mail is in trafic, So This is for members >to > > > > >think > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > >the matter. > > > > > > > > > If original mail do not reach up to 16th I will > > >answer > > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >krushna 13th April 2001 From Web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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