Picking up the relevant items in a chart for a sub period

May 15, 2001

Respected Krushnaji,

Finally, I have gone through the previous lessons and I have time for a few

questions. I hope you can find the time to answer these.

I am trying to check some events in a chart that I have. The chart is of a

Pisces ascendant and Mercury and Venus are in the 12th house.

The main period is that of Mercury. Mercury is the lord of 4th and 7th and

is in 12th with 5 points. Venus is the lord of 3 and 8 and is in 12th with 4

points.

The sub period is that of Moon. Moon has 4 points and is placed in the 5th

house. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars so this sub can represent that

also. Moon is not samdharmi to any other planet in the chart.

Since Moon has only 4 points, it can signify matters related to only the 8th

and 12th houses where it is lord of D and E. Mars also has only one point so

it can signify matters related to 4, 5, 9 and 12 where it is the lord of D

or E.

The functional karaka for the 4th and 5th house is Saturn. For 8th it is

Venus, for 9th and 12th it is Mercury.

Since Saturn is neither the main lord or its samdharmi, the emphasis in this

period must be restricted to 8th, 9th, and 12th houses.

The events related to 8th, 9th and 12th houses will occur during this period

and these will be with the support of the 3rd, 4th, 7th, and 8th houses

(lordship of the main period lord and its samdharmi).

Please advise if this reasoning is correct.

Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. However, we are using Venus as a

samdharmi to the main period lord, Mercury. Can we use this period for

events related to 4th and 5th houses also since Saturn is the karak for

these and is samdharmi to Venus?

Your reply would be highly appreciated.

Kind regards

Sanjay

May 15, 2001

Dear Sanjay,

After a long time you are in the group. Realy I missed you. No

body ask me questions like you.

My answers/ comments are in block letters...

, " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg@l...>

wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> Finally, I have gone through the previous lessons and I have time

for a few

> questions. I hope you can find the time to answer these.

>

> I am trying to check some events in a chart that I have. The chart

is of a

> Pisces ascendant and Mercury and Venus are in the 12th house.

>

> The main period is that of Mercury. Mercury is the lord of 4th and

7th and

> is in 12th with 5 points. SO IT IS F.K. OF 9TH AND 12TH HOUSE. SO

OVER ALL RESULTS GIVEN BY THE SUB PERIOD SHOULD HAVE SOME CONNECTION

WITH 9TH 12TH AND 5TH HOUSE ( MERCURY BEING IN 12TH WITH MORE POINTS)

AND IT IS NOT ASPECTING ANY OF THE UPCHAY HOUSES RELATED TO THESE

HOUSES.

Venus is the lord of 3 and 8 and is in 12th with 4

> points. O.K.

>

> The sub period is that of Moon. Moon has 4 points and is placed in

the 5th

> house. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars so this sub can represent

that

> also. Moon is not samdharmi to any other planet in the chart.

> ( THIS SHOULD BE CHECKED WITH NAVAMANSHA CHART, YOU MUST HAVE

CHECKED IT, IT MEANS NO PLANET IS IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF MOON)

> Since Moon has only 4 points, it can signify matters related to

only the 8th and 12th houses where it is lord of D and E. CORRECT.

Mars also has only one point so it can signify matters related to 4,

5, 9 and 12 where it is the lord of D or E. CORRECT. ( WHERE MARS IS

SITUATED?)

>

> The functional karaka for the 4th and 5th house is Saturn. For 8th

it is

> Venus, for 9th and 12th it is Mercury. (ALSO FOR 5TH)

>

> Since Saturn is neither the main lord or its samdharmi (IT MEANS

MERCURY IS NOT IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF SATURN, AND SATURN IS NOT

SITUATED IN 9TH OR 3RD HOUSE) ,

the emphasis in this period must be restricted to 8th, 9th, and

12th houses. AS PER WORK SHEET HOW MANY POINTS MOON IS GETING FOR

OTHER HOUSES. IT WILL GIVE GOOD RESULTS FOR HOUSES HAVING MORE POINTS

AND MALEFIC RESULTS FOR HOUSES HAVING LESS POINTS. ALL THE RESULTS

WILL BE CONNECTED TO 5,9,12TH HOUSES. RESULTS OF DIFFERENT HOUSES

WILL BE EXPERIENCED AS PER THE 17 MONTHS PERIOD OF MOON IN MERCURY.

THE EVENT DATES WILL BE RELATED TO OTHER PLANETS HAVING RELATIVE

POINTS AND TRANSIT OF SUN IN THOSE SIGN OR CONSTELLATIONS.

>

> The events related to 8th, 9th and 12th houses will occur during

this period

> and these will be with the support of the 3rd, 4th, 7th, and 8th

houses(PERTICULARLY FOR THE RESULT OF 11TH HOUSE , 4TH HOUSE,AND 2ND

HOUSE) ( DUE TO MOON'S SIGHT ON 11TH HOUSE)

> (lordship of the main period lord and its samdharmi).

>

> Please advise if this reasoning is correct. YOUR REASONING IS

CORRECT,

>

> Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. However, we are using Venus

as a

> samdharmi to the main period lord, Mercury. Can we use this period

for

> events related to 4th and 5th houses also since Saturn is the karak

for

> these and is samdharmi to Venus? VENUS CAN BE USED IF YOU ARE

FINDING THE RESULT OF 2ND HOUSE , SIXTH HOUSE, 11TH HOUSE. WHERE

VENUS BEING SAMDHARMI TO MERCURY WILL COME FORWARD. (DUE TO SIGHT OF

MERCURY ON 6TH HOUSE)

>

> Your reply would be highly appreciated.

> IF YOU GIVE COMPLETE CHART IT WILL BE EASY TO ANSWER, IF ANY POINT

LEFT OUT. ........KRUSHNA

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

May 16, 2001

Respected Krushnaji,

Thank you for your prompt reply. The relevant chart details are as follows:

Ascendant - Pisces. Sun in 11th house (5 points) , Moon in 5th (4 points),

Mars in 9th (2 points), Mercury in 12th (5 points), Jupiter in 2nd (4

points), Venus in 12th (4 points), Saturn in 10th (4 points), Rahu in lagna

and Ketu in 7th.

Navamsha lagna - Aquarius. Sun in Gemini, Moon in Libra, Mars in Aquarius,

Mercury in Scorpio, Jupiter in Aries, Venus in Gemini, Saturn in Taurus,

Rahu in Cancer, and Ketu in Capricorn.

I am attaching the worksheet summary for you to see if you need to.

There is no specific event that I am trying to prove. I am just trying to

understand your system of picking up the relevant areas of life.

Having given this background, I have some queries on your reply which I hope

you will see below and answer. My original questions are preceded by '>',

your reply is in capitals, and my new questions are marked by '>>>'.

<krushanain

Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:03 PM

Dear Sanjay,

After a long time you are in the group. Realy I missed you. No

body ask me questions like you.

>>> Thank you. It is nice to be back. About the questions, I suppose I am

just dumber than the other members :-)

> Finally, I have gone through the previous lessons and I have time

for a few questions. I hope you can find the time to answer these.

I am trying to check some events in a chart that I have. The chart

is of a Pisces ascendant and Mercury and Venus are in the 12th house.

The main period is that of Mercury. Mercury is the lord of 4th and

7th and is in 12th with 5 points.

SO IT IS F.K. OF 9TH AND 12TH HOUSE. SO OVER ALL RESULTS GIVEN BY THE SUB

PERIOD SHOULD HAVE SOME CONNECTION

WITH 9TH 12TH AND 5TH HOUSE ( MERCURY BEING IN 12TH WITH MORE POINTS) AND IT

IS NOT ASPECTING ANY OF THE UPCHAY HOUSES RELATED TO THESE HOUSES

>>> I thought planets with 5 points or more were relevant when they are in D

or E. 12th house is D or E for the 3rd and 7th houses and Mercury should

become eager to give results for these. Why should it give results related

to 5th for which is only the lord of A?

> Venus is the lord of 3 and 8 and is in 12th with 4 points. O.K.

> The sub period is that of Moon. Moon has 4 points and is placed in

the 5th house. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars so this sub can represent

that also. Moon is not samdharmi to any other planet in the chart.

THIS SHOULD BE CHECKED WITH NAVAMANSHA CHART, YOU MUST HAVE CHECKED IT, IT

MEANS NO PLANET IS IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF MOON)

>>> Actually only Rahu is in the navamsha of Moon. Do planets become

samdharmi to their dispositor in Rashi and Navamsha both or only in

Navamsha? Would this not lead to too many samdharmis so that any event might

be explained?

> Since Moon has only 4 points, it can signify matters related to

only the 8th and 12th houses where it is lord of D and E. CORRECT.

>Mars also has only one point so it can signify matters related to 4,

5, 9 and 12 where it is the lord of D or E. CORRECT. ( WHERE MARS IS

SITUATED?)

>>> It is in the 9th house.

> The functional karaka for the 4th and 5th house is Saturn. For 8th

it is Venus, for 9th and 12th it is Mercury. (ALSO FOR 5TH)

>>> I thought we were only to look for the functional karakas for the houses

signified by the sub period lord or its samdharmi. I also thought the karak

is the lord of the 8th house. Is a planet in the 8th house with 5 poitns or

more also a karak for that house?

> Since Saturn is neither the main lord or its samdharmi (IT MEANS

MERCURY IS NOT IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF SATURN, AND SATURN IS NOT SITUATED IN

9TH OR 3RD HOUSE) ,

>>> All these conditions are true as you would see from the chart. However,

if Saturn was in one of the conditions nnnmentioned by you, what would be

the significance?

>...the emphasis in this period must be restricted to 8th, 9th, and

12th houses.

AS PER WORK SHEET HOW MANY POINTS MOON IS GETING FOR

OTHER HOUSES. IT WILL GIVE GOOD RESULTS FOR HOUSES HAVING MORE POINTS AND

MALEFIC RESULTS FOR HOUSES HAVING LESS POINTS. ALL THE RESULTS WILL BE

CONNECTED TO 5,9,12TH HOUSES. RESULTS OF DIFFERENT HOUSES WILL BE

EXPERIENCED AS PER THE 17 MONTHS PERIOD OF MOON IN MERCURY. THE EVENT DATES

WILL BE RELATED TO OTHER PLANETS HAVING RELATIVE POINTS AND TRANSIT OF SUN

IN THOSE SIGN OR CONSTELLATIONS.

>>> Moon has less than 12 points for all house except 8th where it has 12

points. Does this mean that bad results will be felt for all these houses?

Or will these be restricted to the 9th or 12th houses.

>>> I am still having soem problem in understanding how the events will be

related to the 5th house instead of the 8th house.

> The events related to 8th, 9th and 12th houses will occur during

this period and these will be with the support of the 3rd, 4th, 7th, and 8th

houses (PERTICULARLY FOR THE RESULT OF 11TH HOUSE , 4TH HOUSE,AND 2ND HOUSE)

( DUE TO MOON'S SIGHT ON 11TH HOUSE) > (lordship of the main period lord and

its samdharmi).

>>> Could you please advise how would the results be related to the 11th

4th and 2nd houses?

> Please advise if this reasoning is correct. YOUR REASONING IS

CORRECT,

> Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. However, we are using Venus

as a samdharmi to the main period lord, Mercury. Can we use this period

for events related to 4th and 5th houses also since Saturn is the karak

for these and is samdharmi to Venus? VENUS CAN BE USED IF YOU ARE

FINDING THE RESULT OF 2ND HOUSE , SIXTH HOUSE, 11TH HOUSE. WHERE VENUS BEING

SAMDHARMI TO MERCURY WILL COME FORWARD. (DUE TO SIGHT OF MERCURY ON 6TH

HOUSE)

>>> I am only looking here for the main period lord indications and looked

to Venus as Mercury is samdharmi to it. As far as I understand, the sight of

a main period lord is not relevant and only that of a subperiod lord is

relevant.

> Your reply would be highly appreciated.

> IF YOU GIVE COMPLETE CHART IT WILL BE EASY TO ANSWER, IF ANY POINT LEFT

OUT. ........KRUSHNA

>>> The chart details as well as worksheet is enclosed.

Once again, I have no specific queries relating to this chart. I am only

trying to understand the principles you mentioned.

Kind regards

Sanjay

May 31, 2001

Dear Sanjay,

My answers are in serial no.

1. No you are not, as you called your self. You have

done a very nice thing for the list. The work sheet

you have made, is very help ful. It is realy a

wonderful job you have done.

2. Mercury is in house A with more points for house 5

as B. We consider lord of the house and planets

situated in any house with more then 4 points.

3. Yes there can be more then one samdharmi, We have

to select the powerful out of those. Here Moon is

malefic for this chart, as it is having very less

points for all houses. Only for 8th house it is with

12 points. So Rahu sub will give malefic result.

4.

5. as per ans 2nd. Some time the planets situated in

the house becomes more powerful FK.

6. Saturn would have been samdharmi to Mercury.

7. Yes. even Rahu being samdharmi to moon also do the

same thing.

8 The main Dasha lord lord is Mercury, and it is

F.K. for 5,9.and 12 houses. ( for 5th house it is

being with more points in 8th house) Here I mean the

result must have some connection with these house. The

Moon being sub lord, so in it's sub period it will

give malefic result for all the houses. Those results

should have some connection with 5th 9th and 12th

houses. for example 9th and 12th house denotes some

travel. So person may loose some money, or theft in

traveling. for 5th house loss in lottery, gambling.

Some loss or bad fortune due to children etc.

9. Result for 11th house in moon sub, it is having

only 9 points, In moon sub there will not be any

achivement for 11th house, and the reasoning may be

Children, father of the jatak, or 12th house matter.

4th house: Some problem for 4th house, loss of

happiness in family, reason may be as above.

2nd similar result for 2nd house.

10. Yes we do not consider the sight of main period

lord for our calculation purpose. but the result for

6th house, will not be related to 5, 9 and 12th house.

because mercury the main period lord is aspecting 6th

house. Any malefic result in Moon sub for 6th house,

will not have any connection with the houses, for

those mercury is FK.

Sorry Sanjay, The delay was not deliberate. For

this or that reason delay was causing. Yes you can

blame me, that I answered others qu, and not yours.

One thing the I can say in excuse that this message

became more complecated, due to your and mine write

up.

I think, it is much easy to ask separate qu.

instead of using the same.

Any how I was having tension, for not answering

your queries. Any how it is now 2:35 Am., and I have

done it. Now tension free.

thanks

krushna

--- Sanjay Jaggia <sanjaygg wrote:

<HR>

<tt>

Respected Krushnaji,

Thank you for your prompt reply. The relevant chart

details are as follows:

Ascendant - Pisces. Sun in 11th house (5 points) ,

Moon in 5th (4 points),

Mars in 9th (2 points), Mercury in 12th (5 points),

Jupiter in 2nd (4

points), Venus in 12th (4 points), Saturn in 10th (4

points), Rahu in lagna

and Ketu in 7th.

Navamsha lagna - Aquarius. Sun in Gemini, Moon in

Libra, Mars in Aquarius,

Mercury in Scorpio, Jupiter in Aries, Venus in Gemini,

Saturn in Taurus,

Rahu in Cancer, and Ketu in Capricorn.

I am attaching the worksheet summary for you to see if

you need to.

There is no specific event that I am trying to prove.

I am just trying to

understand your system of picking up the relevant

areas of life.

Having given this background, I have some queries on

your reply which I hope

you will see below and answer. My original questions

are preceded by ' & gt;',

your reply is in capitals, and my new questions are

marked by ' & gt; & gt; & gt;'.

& lt;krushanain & gt;

To:

& lt; & gt;

Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:03 PM

Dear Sanjay,

& nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; After a long time you are in the

group. Realy I missed you. No

body ask me questions like you.

& gt; & gt; & gt; Thank you. It is nice to be back. About

the questions, I suppose I am

just dumber than the other members :-)

& gt; Finally, I have gone through the previous lessons

and I have time

for a few questions. I hope you can find the time to

answer these.

I am trying to check some events in a chart that I

have. The chart

is of a Pisces ascendant and Mercury and Venus are in

the 12th house.

The main period is that of Mercury. Mercury is the

lord of 4th and

7th and is in 12th with 5 points.

SO IT IS F.K. OF 9TH AND 12TH HOUSE. SO OVER ALL

RESULTS GIVEN BY THE SUB

PERIOD SHOULD HAVE SOME CONNECTION

WITH 9TH 12TH AND 5TH HOUSE ( MERCURY BEING IN 12TH

WITH MORE POINTS) AND IT

IS NOT ASPECTING ANY OF THE UPCHAY HOUSES RELATED TO

THESE HOUSES

& gt; & gt; & gt; I thought planets with 5 points or more

were relevant when they are in D

or E. 12th house is D or E for the 3rd and 7th houses

and Mercury should

become eager to give results for these. Why should it

give results related

to 5th for which is only the lord of A?

& gt; Venus is the lord of 3 and 8 and is in 12th with

4 points. O.K.

& gt; The sub period is that of Moon. Moon has 4 points

and is placed in

the 5th house. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars so

this sub can represent

that also. Moon is not samdharmi to any other planet

in the chart.

THIS SHOULD BE CHECKED WITH NAVAMANSHA CHART, YOU MUST

HAVE CHECKED IT, IT

MEANS NO PLANET IS IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF MOON)

& gt; & gt; & gt; Actually only Rahu is in the navamsha of

Moon. Do planets become

samdharmi to their dispositor in Rashi and Navamsha

both or only in

Navamsha? Would this not lead to too many samdharmis

so that any event might

be explained?

& gt; Since Moon has only 4 points, it can signify

matters related to

only the 8th and 12th houses where it is lord of D and

E. CORRECT.

& gt;Mars also has only one point so it can signify

matters related to 4,

5, 9 and 12 where it is the lord of D or E. CORRECT. (

WHERE MARS IS

SITUATED?)

& gt; & gt; & gt; It is in the 9th house.

& gt; The functional karaka for the 4th and 5th house

is Saturn. For 8th

it is Venus, for 9th and 12th it is Mercury. (ALSO FOR

5TH)

& gt; & gt; & gt; I thought we were only to look for the

functional karakas for the houses

signified by the sub period lord or its samdharmi. I

also thought the karak

is the lord of the 8th house. Is a planet in the 8th

house with 5 poitns or

more also a karak for that house?

& gt; Since Saturn is neither the main lord or its

samdharmi (IT MEANS

MERCURY IS NOT IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF SATURN, AND SATURN

IS NOT SITUATED IN

9TH OR 3RD HOUSE) ,

& gt; & gt; & gt; All these conditions are true as you

would see from the chart. However,

if Saturn was in one of the conditions nnnmentioned by

you, what would be

the significance?

& gt;...the emphasis in this period must be restricted

to & nbsp; 8th, 9th, and

12th houses.

AS PER WORK SHEET HOW MANY POINTS MOON IS GETING

FOR

OTHER HOUSES. IT WILL GIVE GOOD RESULTS FOR HOUSES

HAVING MORE POINTS AND

MALEFIC RESULTS FOR HOUSES HAVING LESS POINTS. ALL THE

RESULTS WILL BE

CONNECTED TO 5,9,12TH HOUSES. RESULTS OF DIFFERENT

HOUSES WILL BE

EXPERIENCED AS PER THE 17 MONTHS PERIOD OF MOON IN

MERCURY. THE EVENT DATES

WILL BE RELATED TO OTHER PLANETS HAVING RELATIVE

POINTS AND TRANSIT OF SUN

IN THOSE SIGN OR CONSTELLATIONS.

& gt; & gt; & gt; Moon has less than 12 points for all

house except 8th where it has 12

points. Does this mean that bad results will be felt

for all these houses?

Or will these be restricted to the 9th or 12th

houses.

& gt; & gt; & gt; I am still having soem problem in

understanding how the events will be

related to the 5th house instead of the 8th house.

& gt; The events related to 8th, 9th and 12th houses

will occur during

this period and these will be with the support of the

3rd, 4th, 7th, and 8th

houses (PERTICULARLY FOR THE RESULT OF 11TH HOUSE ,

4TH HOUSE,AND 2ND HOUSE)

( DUE TO MOON'S SIGHT ON 11TH HOUSE) & gt; (lordship of

the main period lord and

its samdharmi).

& gt; & gt; & gt; & nbsp; Could you please advise how would

the results be related to the 11th

4th and 2nd houses?

& gt; Please advise if this reasoning is correct. YOUR

REASONING IS

CORRECT,

& gt; Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. However, we

are using Venus

as a samdharmi to the main period lord, Mercury. Can

we use this period

for events related to 4th and 5th houses also since

Saturn is the karak

for these and is samdharmi to Venus? VENUS CAN BE USED

IF YOU ARE

FINDING THE RESULT OF 2ND HOUSE , SIXTH HOUSE, 11TH

HOUSE. WHERE VENUS BEING

SAMDHARMI TO MERCURY WILL COME FORWARD. (DUE TO SIGHT

OF MERCURY ON 6TH

HOUSE)

& gt; & gt; & gt; I am only looking here for the main

period lord indications and looked

to Venus as Mercury is samdharmi to it. As far as I

understand, the sight of

a main period lord is not relevant and only that of a

subperiod lord is

relevant.

& gt; Your reply would be highly appreciated.

& gt; IF YOU GIVE COMPLETE CHART IT WILL BE EASY TO

ANSWER, IF ANY POINT LEFT

OUT. ........KRUSHNA

& gt; & gt; & gt; The chart details as well as worksheet is

enclosed.

Once again, I have no specific queries relating to

this chart. I am only

trying to understand the principles you mentioned.

Kind regards

Sanjay

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June 1, 2001

Respected Krushnaji,

Thank you for the answers. I am sorry that I caused the tension.

I am now studying your answers as well as the several exchanges that you had

with Peter which seem to be very illuminating. I am sure that I will come

back with more questions.

I will take your advice and try to ask separate questions. The problem is

that everything seems to be linked with everything else initially until you

start clarifying the issues.

Thanks again.

Kind regards

Sanjay

-

" krushna jugalkalani " <krushanain

Friday, June 01, 2001 4:16 AM

Re: Re: Picking up the relevant items in

a chart for a sub period

Dear Sanjay,

My answers are in serial no.

1. No you are not, as you called your self. You have

done a very nice thing for the list. The work sheet

you have made, is very help ful. It is realy a

wonderful job you have done.

2. Mercury is in house A with more points for house 5

as B. We consider lord of the house and planets

situated in any house with more then 4 points.

3. Yes there can be more then one samdharmi, We have

to select the powerful out of those. Here Moon is

malefic for this chart, as it is having very less

points for all houses. Only for 8th house it is with

12 points. So Rahu sub will give malefic result.

4.

5. as per ans 2nd. Some time the planets situated in

the house becomes more powerful FK.

6. Saturn would have been samdharmi to Mercury.

7. Yes. even Rahu being samdharmi to moon also do the

same thing.

8 The main Dasha lord lord is Mercury, and it is

F.K. for 5,9.and 12 houses. ( for 5th house it is

being with more points in 8th house) Here I mean the

result must have some connection with these house. The

Moon being sub lord, so in it's sub period it will

give malefic result for all the houses. Those results

should have some connection with 5th 9th and 12th

houses. for example 9th and 12th house denotes some

travel. So person may loose some money, or theft in

traveling. for 5th house loss in lottery, gambling.

Some loss or bad fortune due to children etc.

9. Result for 11th house in moon sub, it is having

only 9 points, In moon sub there will not be any

achivement for 11th house, and the reasoning may be

Children, father of the jatak, or 12th house matter.

4th house: Some problem for 4th house, loss of

happiness in family, reason may be as above.

2nd similar result for 2nd house.

10. Yes we do not consider the sight of main period

lord for our calculation purpose. but the result for

6th house, will not be related to 5, 9 and 12th house.

because mercury the main period lord is aspecting 6th

house. Any malefic result in Moon sub for 6th house,

will not have any connection with the houses, for

those mercury is FK.

Sorry Sanjay, The delay was not deliberate. For

this or that reason delay was causing. Yes you can

blame me, that I answered others qu, and not yours.

One thing the I can say in excuse that this message

became more complecated, due to your and mine write

up.

I think, it is much easy to ask separate qu.

instead of using the same.

Any how I was having tension, for not answering

your queries. Any how it is now 2:35 Am., and I have

done it. Now tension free.

thanks

krushna

--- Sanjay Jaggia <sanjaygg wrote:

<HR>

<tt>

Respected Krushnaji,

Thank you for your prompt reply. The relevant chart

details are as follows:

Ascendant - Pisces. Sun in 11th house (5 points) ,

Moon in 5th (4 points),

Mars in 9th (2 points), Mercury in 12th (5 points),

Jupiter in 2nd (4

points), Venus in 12th (4 points), Saturn in 10th (4

points), Rahu in lagna

and Ketu in 7th.

Navamsha lagna - Aquarius. Sun in Gemini, Moon in

Libra, Mars in Aquarius,

Mercury in Scorpio, Jupiter in Aries, Venus in Gemini,

Saturn in Taurus,

Rahu in Cancer, and Ketu in Capricorn.

I am attaching the worksheet summary for you to see if

you need to.

There is no specific event that I am trying to prove.

I am just trying to

understand your system of picking up the relevant

areas of life.

Having given this background, I have some queries on

your reply which I hope

you will see below and answer. My original questions

are preceded by ' & gt;',

your reply is in capitals, and my new questions are

marked by ' & gt; & gt; & gt;'.

& lt;krushanain & gt;

To:

& lt; & gt;

Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:03 PM

Dear Sanjay,

& nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; After a long time you are in the

group. Realy I missed you. No

body ask me questions like you.

& gt; & gt; & gt; Thank you. It is nice to be back. About

the questions, I suppose I am

just dumber than the other members :-)

& gt; Finally, I have gone through the previous lessons

and I have time

for a few questions. I hope you can find the time to

answer these.

I am trying to check some events in a chart that I

have. The chart

is of a Pisces ascendant and Mercury and Venus are in

the 12th house.

The main period is that of Mercury. Mercury is the

lord of 4th and

7th and is in 12th with 5 points.

SO IT IS F.K. OF 9TH AND 12TH HOUSE. SO OVER ALL

RESULTS GIVEN BY THE SUB

PERIOD SHOULD HAVE SOME CONNECTION

WITH 9TH 12TH AND 5TH HOUSE ( MERCURY BEING IN 12TH

WITH MORE POINTS) AND IT

IS NOT ASPECTING ANY OF THE UPCHAY HOUSES RELATED TO

THESE HOUSES

& gt; & gt; & gt; I thought planets with 5 points or more

were relevant when they are in D

or E. 12th house is D or E for the 3rd and 7th houses

and Mercury should

become eager to give results for these. Why should it

give results related

to 5th for which is only the lord of A?

& gt; Venus is the lord of 3 and 8 and is in 12th with

4 points. O.K.

& gt; The sub period is that of Moon. Moon has 4 points

and is placed in

the 5th house. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars so

this sub can represent

that also. Moon is not samdharmi to any other planet

in the chart.

THIS SHOULD BE CHECKED WITH NAVAMANSHA CHART, YOU MUST

HAVE CHECKED IT, IT

MEANS NO PLANET IS IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF MOON)

& gt; & gt; & gt; Actually only Rahu is in the navamsha of

Moon. Do planets become

samdharmi to their dispositor in Rashi and Navamsha

both or only in

Navamsha? Would this not lead to too many samdharmis

so that any event might

be explained?

& gt; Since Moon has only 4 points, it can signify

matters related to

only the 8th and 12th houses where it is lord of D and

E. CORRECT.

& gt;Mars also has only one point so it can signify

matters related to 4,

5, 9 and 12 where it is the lord of D or E. CORRECT. (

WHERE MARS IS

SITUATED?)

& gt; & gt; & gt; It is in the 9th house.

& gt; The functional karaka for the 4th and 5th house

is Saturn. For 8th

it is Venus, for 9th and 12th it is Mercury. (ALSO FOR

5TH)

& gt; & gt; & gt; I thought we were only to look for the

functional karakas for the houses

signified by the sub period lord or its samdharmi. I

also thought the karak

is the lord of the 8th house. Is a planet in the 8th

house with 5 poitns or

more also a karak for that house?

& gt; Since Saturn is neither the main lord or its

samdharmi (IT MEANS

MERCURY IS NOT IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF SATURN, AND SATURN

IS NOT SITUATED IN

9TH OR 3RD HOUSE) ,

& gt; & gt; & gt; All these conditions are true as you

would see from the chart. However,

if Saturn was in one of the conditions nnnmentioned by

you, what would be

the significance?

& gt;...the emphasis in this period must be restricted

to & nbsp; 8th, 9th, and

12th houses.

AS PER WORK SHEET HOW MANY POINTS MOON IS GETING

FOR

OTHER HOUSES. IT WILL GIVE GOOD RESULTS FOR HOUSES

HAVING MORE POINTS AND

MALEFIC RESULTS FOR HOUSES HAVING LESS POINTS. ALL THE

RESULTS WILL BE

CONNECTED TO 5,9,12TH HOUSES. RESULTS OF DIFFERENT

HOUSES WILL BE

EXPERIENCED AS PER THE 17 MONTHS PERIOD OF MOON IN

MERCURY. THE EVENT DATES

WILL BE RELATED TO OTHER PLANETS HAVING RELATIVE

POINTS AND TRANSIT OF SUN

IN THOSE SIGN OR CONSTELLATIONS.

& gt; & gt; & gt; Moon has less than 12 points for all

house except 8th where it has 12

points. Does this mean that bad results will be felt

for all these houses?

Or will these be restricted to the 9th or 12th

houses.

& gt; & gt; & gt; I am still having soem problem in

understanding how the events will be

related to the 5th house instead of the 8th house.

& gt; The events related to 8th, 9th and 12th houses

will occur during

this period and these will be with the support of the

3rd, 4th, 7th, and 8th

houses (PERTICULARLY FOR THE RESULT OF 11TH HOUSE ,

4TH HOUSE,AND 2ND HOUSE)

( DUE TO MOON'S SIGHT ON 11TH HOUSE) & gt; (lordship of

the main period lord and

its samdharmi).

& gt; & gt; & gt; & nbsp; Could you please advise how would

the results be related to the 11th

4th and 2nd houses?

& gt; Please advise if this reasoning is correct. YOUR

REASONING IS

CORRECT,

& gt; Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. However, we

are using Venus

as a samdharmi to the main period lord, Mercury. Can

we use this period

for events related to 4th and 5th houses also since

Saturn is the karak

for these and is samdharmi to Venus? VENUS CAN BE USED

IF YOU ARE

FINDING THE RESULT OF 2ND HOUSE , SIXTH HOUSE, 11TH

HOUSE. WHERE VENUS BEING

SAMDHARMI TO MERCURY WILL COME FORWARD. (DUE TO SIGHT

OF MERCURY ON 6TH

HOUSE)

& gt; & gt; & gt; I am only looking here for the main

period lord indications and looked

to Venus as Mercury is samdharmi to it. As far as I

understand, the sight of

a main period lord is not relevant and only that of a

subperiod lord is

relevant.

& gt; Your reply would be highly appreciated.

& gt; IF YOU GIVE COMPLETE CHART IT WILL BE EASY TO

ANSWER, IF ANY POINT LEFT

OUT. ........KRUSHNA

& gt; & gt; & gt; The chart details as well as worksheet is

enclosed.

Once again, I have no specific queries relating to

this chart. I am only

trying to understand the principles you mentioned.

Kind regards

Sanjay

</tt>

<td align=center><font size= " -1 "

color=#003399>

June 1, 2001

Dear Sanjay,

You are welcome with more questions. Please ask one or two

questions in a mail. More questions in one mail, results in keeping

it pending. I came to this fact, after thinking over the matter. Big

mail or more questions remains pending, only because answering small

mail or one question is easy. So after answering all small mail, it

is too late, so big mails are kept pending, with a thought I will

answer it tomarrow. and tommarrow never comes.

krushna

, " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg@l...>

wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> Thank you for the answers. I am sorry that I caused the tension.

>

> I am now studying your answers as well as the several exchanges

that you had

> with Peter which seem to be very illuminating. I am sure that I

will come

> back with more questions.

>

> I will take your advice and try to ask separate questions. The

problem is

> that everything seems to be linked with everything else initially

until you

> start clarifying the issues.

>

> Thanks again.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

> -

> " krushna jugalkalani " <krushanain>

>

> Friday, June 01, 2001 4:16 AM

> Re: Re: Picking up the relevant

items in

> a chart for a sub period

>

> Dear Sanjay,

> My answers are in serial no.

> 1. No you are not, as you called your self. You have

> done a very nice thing for the list. The work sheet

> you have made, is very help ful. It is realy a

> wonderful job you have done.

> 2. Mercury is in house A with more points for house 5

> as B. We consider lord of the house and planets

> situated in any house with more then 4 points.

> 3. Yes there can be more then one samdharmi, We have

> to select the powerful out of those. Here Moon is

> malefic for this chart, as it is having very less

> points for all houses. Only for 8th house it is with

> 12 points. So Rahu sub will give malefic result.

> 4.

> 5. as per ans 2nd. Some time the planets situated in

> the house becomes more powerful FK.

> 6. Saturn would have been samdharmi to Mercury.

> 7. Yes. even Rahu being samdharmi to moon also do the

> same thing.

> 8 The main Dasha lord lord is Mercury, and it is

> F.K. for 5,9.and 12 houses. ( for 5th house it is

> being with more points in 8th house) Here I mean the

> result must have some connection with these house. The

> Moon being sub lord, so in it's sub period it will

> give malefic result for all the houses. Those results

> should have some connection with 5th 9th and 12th

> houses. for example 9th and 12th house denotes some

> travel. So person may loose some money, or theft in

> traveling. for 5th house loss in lottery, gambling.

> Some loss or bad fortune due to children etc.

> 9. Result for 11th house in moon sub, it is having

> only 9 points, In moon sub there will not be any

> achivement for 11th house, and the reasoning may be

> Children, father of the jatak, or 12th house matter.

> 4th house: Some problem for 4th house, loss of

> happiness in family, reason may be as above.

> 2nd similar result for 2nd house.

> 10. Yes we do not consider the sight of main period

> lord for our calculation purpose. but the result for

> 6th house, will not be related to 5, 9 and 12th house.

> because mercury the main period lord is aspecting 6th

> house. Any malefic result in Moon sub for 6th house,

> will not have any connection with the houses, for

> those mercury is FK.

> Sorry Sanjay, The delay was not deliberate. For

> this or that reason delay was causing. Yes you can

> blame me, that I answered others qu, and not yours.

> One thing the I can say in excuse that this message

> became more complecated, due to your and mine write

> up.

> I think, it is much easy to ask separate qu.

> instead of using the same.

> Any how I was having tension, for not answering

> your queries. Any how it is now 2:35 Am., and I have

> done it. Now tension free.

> thanks

> krushna

>

> --- Sanjay Jaggia <sanjaygg@l...> wrote:

> <HR>

> <html><body>

> <tt>

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> Thank you for your prompt reply. The relevant chart

> details are as follows:

>

> Ascendant - Pisces. Sun in 11th house (5 points) ,

> Moon in 5th (4 points),

> Mars in 9th (2 points), Mercury in 12th (5 points),

> Jupiter in 2nd (4

> points), Venus in 12th (4 points), Saturn in 10th (4

> points), Rahu in lagna

> and Ketu in 7th.

>

> Navamsha lagna - Aquarius. Sun in Gemini, Moon in

> Libra, Mars in Aquarius,

> Mercury in Scorpio, Jupiter in Aries, Venus in Gemini,

> Saturn in Taurus,

> Rahu in Cancer, and Ketu in Capricorn.

>

> I am attaching the worksheet summary for you to see if

> you need to.

>

> There is no specific event that I am trying to prove.

> I am just trying to

> understand your system of picking up the relevant

> areas of life.

>

> Having given this background, I have some queries on

> your reply which I hope

> you will see below and answer. My original questions

> are preceded by ' & gt;',

> your reply is in capitals, and my new questions are

> marked by ' & gt; & gt; & gt;'.

>

> krushanain@h...

> To:

>

> Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:03 PM

>

> Dear Sanjay,

> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; After a long time you are in the

> group. Realy I missed you. No

> body ask me questions like you.

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Thank you. It is nice to be back. About

> the questions, I suppose I am

> just dumber than the other members :-)

>

> & gt; Finally, I have gone through the previous lessons

> and I have time

> for a few questions. I hope you can find the time to

> answer these.

> I am trying to check some events in a chart that I

> have. The chart

> is of a Pisces ascendant and Mercury and Venus are in

> the 12th house.

> The main period is that of Mercury. Mercury is the

> lord of 4th and

> 7th and is in 12th with 5 points.

>

> SO IT IS F.K. OF 9TH AND 12TH HOUSE. SO OVER ALL

> RESULTS GIVEN BY THE SUB

> PERIOD SHOULD HAVE SOME CONNECTION

> WITH 9TH 12TH AND 5TH HOUSE ( MERCURY BEING IN 12TH

> WITH MORE POINTS) AND IT

> IS NOT ASPECTING ANY OF THE UPCHAY HOUSES RELATED TO

> THESE HOUSES

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; I thought planets with 5 points or more

> were relevant when they are in D

> or E. 12th house is D or E for the 3rd and 7th houses

> and Mercury should

> become eager to give results for these. Why should it

> give results related

> to 5th for which is only the lord of A?

>

> & gt; Venus is the lord of 3 and 8 and is in 12th with

> 4 points. O.K.

> & gt; The sub period is that of Moon. Moon has 4 points

> and is placed in

> the 5th house. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars so

> this sub can represent

> that also. Moon is not samdharmi to any other planet

> in the chart.

> THIS SHOULD BE CHECKED WITH NAVAMANSHA CHART, YOU MUST

> HAVE CHECKED IT, IT

> MEANS NO PLANET IS IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF MOON)

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Actually only Rahu is in the navamsha of

> Moon. Do planets become

> samdharmi to their dispositor in Rashi and Navamsha

> both or only in

> Navamsha? Would this not lead to too many samdharmis

> so that any event might

> be explained?

>

> & gt; Since Moon has only 4 points, it can signify

> matters related to

> only the 8th and 12th houses where it is lord of D and

> E. CORRECT.

>

> & gt;Mars also has only one point so it can signify

> matters related to 4,

> 5, 9 and 12 where it is the lord of D or E. CORRECT. (

> WHERE MARS IS

> SITUATED?)

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; It is in the 9th house.

>

> & gt; The functional karaka for the 4th and 5th house

> is Saturn. For 8th

> it is Venus, for 9th and 12th it is Mercury. (ALSO FOR

> 5TH)

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; I thought we were only to look for the

> functional karakas for the houses

> signified by the sub period lord or its samdharmi. I

> also thought the karak

> is the lord of the 8th house. Is a planet in the 8th

> house with 5 poitns or

> more also a karak for that house?

>

> & gt; Since Saturn is neither the main lord or its

> samdharmi (IT MEANS

> MERCURY IS NOT IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF SATURN, AND SATURN

> IS NOT SITUATED IN

> 9TH OR 3RD HOUSE) ,

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; All these conditions are true as you

> would see from the chart. However,

> if Saturn was in one of the conditions nnnmentioned by

> you, what would be

> the significance?

>

> & gt;...the emphasis in this period must be restricted

> to & nbsp; 8th, 9th, and

> 12th houses.

> AS PER WORK SHEET HOW MANY POINTS MOON IS GETING

> FOR

> OTHER HOUSES. IT WILL GIVE GOOD RESULTS FOR HOUSES

> HAVING MORE POINTS AND

> MALEFIC RESULTS FOR HOUSES HAVING LESS POINTS. ALL THE

> RESULTS WILL BE

> CONNECTED TO 5,9,12TH HOUSES. RESULTS OF DIFFERENT

> HOUSES WILL BE

> EXPERIENCED AS PER THE 17 MONTHS PERIOD OF MOON IN

> MERCURY. THE EVENT DATES

> WILL BE RELATED TO OTHER PLANETS HAVING RELATIVE

> POINTS AND TRANSIT OF SUN

> IN THOSE SIGN OR CONSTELLATIONS.

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Moon has less than 12 points for all

> house except 8th where it has 12

> points. Does this mean that bad results will be felt

> for all these houses?

> Or will these be restricted to the 9th or 12th

> houses.

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; I am still having soem problem in

> understanding how the events will be

> related to the 5th house instead of the 8th house.

>

> & gt; The events related to 8th, 9th and 12th houses

> will occur during

> this period and these will be with the support of the

> 3rd, 4th, 7th, and 8th

> houses (PERTICULARLY FOR THE RESULT OF 11TH HOUSE ,

> 4TH HOUSE,AND 2ND HOUSE)

> ( DUE TO MOON'S SIGHT ON 11TH HOUSE) & gt; (lordship of

> the main period lord and

> its samdharmi).

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & nbsp; Could you please advise how would

> the results be related to the 11th

> 4th and 2nd houses?

>

> & gt; Please advise if this reasoning is correct. YOUR

> REASONING IS

> CORRECT,

>

> & gt; Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. However, we

> are using Venus

> as a samdharmi to the main period lord, Mercury. Can

> we use this period

> for events related to 4th and 5th houses also since

> Saturn is the karak

> for these and is samdharmi to Venus? VENUS CAN BE USED

> IF YOU ARE

> FINDING THE RESULT OF 2ND HOUSE , SIXTH HOUSE, 11TH

> HOUSE. WHERE VENUS BEING

> SAMDHARMI TO MERCURY WILL COME FORWARD. (DUE TO SIGHT

> OF MERCURY ON 6TH

> HOUSE)

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; I am only looking here for the main

> period lord indications and looked

> to Venus as Mercury is samdharmi to it. As far as I

> understand, the sight of

> a main period lord is not relevant and only that of a

> subperiod lord is

> relevant.

>

> & gt; Your reply would be highly appreciated.

> & gt; IF YOU GIVE COMPLETE CHART IT WILL BE EASY TO

> ANSWER, IF ANY POINT LEFT

> OUT. ........KRUSHNA

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; The chart details as well as worksheet is

> enclosed.

>

> Once again, I have no specific queries relating to

> this chart. I am only

> trying to understand the principles you mentioned.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

> </tt>

>

>

>

>

>

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> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC>

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June 2, 2001

Respected Krushnaji,

I have studied your answer. While everything is not crystal clear, it seems

that there can be some rules that we can follow from your explanations.

These are:

1. A planet is functional karak (FK) for the house for it is the lord of the

8th from it. It is also the FK for which it is in 8th from B with more than

4 points.

2. If planet A is in the rashi or navamsha of B

- then A is samdharmi to B. That is, it can give the result for B.

But B

is not samdharmi to it. B would not give the result for A unless

it was

samdharmi sue to some other reason.

- A and B are samdharmi to each other

Please advise which of the above is correct.

3. At a particular time, there may be results related to any house B.

However, these results will not be related to houses for which the main lord

is FK if the main lord has sight on B.

I will not ask any more questions as this takes too much of your time. But I

would request you to answer these.

As I have many many more questions, I would highly appreciate if you could

illustrate these concepts by showing more examples. At your own convenience,

of course.

Thanks and kind regards

Sanjay

-

<krushanain

Friday, June 01, 2001 6:30 PM

Re: Picking up the relevant items in a

chart for a sub period

Dear Sanjay,

You are welcome with more questions. Please ask one or two

questions in a mail. More questions in one mail, results in keeping

it pending. I came to this fact, after thinking over the matter. Big

mail or more questions remains pending, only because answering small

mail or one question is easy. So after answering all small mail, it

is too late, so big mails are kept pending, with a thought I will

answer it tomarrow. and tommarrow never comes.

krushna

, " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg@l...>

wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> Thank you for the answers. I am sorry that I caused the tension.

>

> I am now studying your answers as well as the several exchanges

that you had

> with Peter which seem to be very illuminating. I am sure that I

will come

> back with more questions.

>

> I will take your advice and try to ask separate questions. The

problem is

> that everything seems to be linked with everything else initially

until you

> start clarifying the issues.

>

> Thanks again.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

> -

> " krushna jugalkalani " <krushanain>

>

> Friday, June 01, 2001 4:16 AM

> Re: Re: Picking up the relevant

items in

> a chart for a sub period

>

> Dear Sanjay,

> My answers are in serial no.

> 1. No you are not, as you called your self. You have

> done a very nice thing for the list. The work sheet

> you have made, is very help ful. It is realy a

> wonderful job you have done.

> 2. Mercury is in house A with more points for house 5

> as B. We consider lord of the house and planets

> situated in any house with more then 4 points.

> 3. Yes there can be more then one samdharmi, We have

> to select the powerful out of those. Here Moon is

> malefic for this chart, as it is having very less

> points for all houses. Only for 8th house it is with

> 12 points. So Rahu sub will give malefic result.

> 4.

> 5. as per ans 2nd. Some time the planets situated in

> the house becomes more powerful FK.

> 6. Saturn would have been samdharmi to Mercury.

> 7. Yes. even Rahu being samdharmi to moon also do the

> same thing.

> 8 The main Dasha lord lord is Mercury, and it is

> F.K. for 5,9.and 12 houses. ( for 5th house it is

> being with more points in 8th house) Here I mean the

> result must have some connection with these house. The

> Moon being sub lord, so in it's sub period it will

> give malefic result for all the houses. Those results

> should have some connection with 5th 9th and 12th

> houses. for example 9th and 12th house denotes some

> travel. So person may loose some money, or theft in

> traveling. for 5th house loss in lottery, gambling.

> Some loss or bad fortune due to children etc.

> 9. Result for 11th house in moon sub, it is having

> only 9 points, In moon sub there will not be any

> achivement for 11th house, and the reasoning may be

> Children, father of the jatak, or 12th house matter.

> 4th house: Some problem for 4th house, loss of

> happiness in family, reason may be as above.

> 2nd similar result for 2nd house.

> 10. Yes we do not consider the sight of main period

> lord for our calculation purpose. but the result for

> 6th house, will not be related to 5, 9 and 12th house.

> because mercury the main period lord is aspecting 6th

> house. Any malefic result in Moon sub for 6th house,

> will not have any connection with the houses, for

> those mercury is FK.

> Sorry Sanjay, The delay was not deliberate. For

> this or that reason delay was causing. Yes you can

> blame me, that I answered others qu, and not yours.

> One thing the I can say in excuse that this message

> became more complecated, due to your and mine write

> up.

> I think, it is much easy to ask separate qu.

> instead of using the same.

> Any how I was having tension, for not answering

> your queries. Any how it is now 2:35 Am., and I have

> done it. Now tension free.

> thanks

> krushna

>

> --- Sanjay Jaggia <sanjaygg@l...> wrote:

> <HR>

> <html><body>

> <tt>

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> Thank you for your prompt reply. The relevant chart

> details are as follows:

>

> Ascendant - Pisces. Sun in 11th house (5 points) ,

> Moon in 5th (4 points),

> Mars in 9th (2 points), Mercury in 12th (5 points),

> Jupiter in 2nd (4

> points), Venus in 12th (4 points), Saturn in 10th (4

> points), Rahu in lagna

> and Ketu in 7th.

>

> Navamsha lagna - Aquarius. Sun in Gemini, Moon in

> Libra, Mars in Aquarius,

> Mercury in Scorpio, Jupiter in Aries, Venus in Gemini,

> Saturn in Taurus,

> Rahu in Cancer, and Ketu in Capricorn.

>

> I am attaching the worksheet summary for you to see if

> you need to.

>

> There is no specific event that I am trying to prove.

> I am just trying to

> understand your system of picking up the relevant

> areas of life.

>

> Having given this background, I have some queries on

> your reply which I hope

> you will see below and answer. My original questions

> are preceded by ' & gt;',

> your reply is in capitals, and my new questions are

> marked by ' & gt; & gt; & gt;'.

>

> krushanain@h...

> To:

>

> Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:03 PM

>

> Dear Sanjay,

> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; After a long time you are in the

> group. Realy I missed you. No

> body ask me questions like you.

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Thank you. It is nice to be back. About

> the questions, I suppose I am

> just dumber than the other members :-)

>

> & gt; Finally, I have gone through the previous lessons

> and I have time

> for a few questions. I hope you can find the time to

> answer these.

> I am trying to check some events in a chart that I

> have. The chart

> is of a Pisces ascendant and Mercury and Venus are in

> the 12th house.

> The main period is that of Mercury. Mercury is the

> lord of 4th and

> 7th and is in 12th with 5 points.

>

> SO IT IS F.K. OF 9TH AND 12TH HOUSE. SO OVER ALL

> RESULTS GIVEN BY THE SUB

> PERIOD SHOULD HAVE SOME CONNECTION

> WITH 9TH 12TH AND 5TH HOUSE ( MERCURY BEING IN 12TH

> WITH MORE POINTS) AND IT

> IS NOT ASPECTING ANY OF THE UPCHAY HOUSES RELATED TO

> THESE HOUSES

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; I thought planets with 5 points or more

> were relevant when they are in D

> or E. 12th house is D or E for the 3rd and 7th houses

> and Mercury should

> become eager to give results for these. Why should it

> give results related

> to 5th for which is only the lord of A?

>

> & gt; Venus is the lord of 3 and 8 and is in 12th with

> 4 points. O.K.

> & gt; The sub period is that of Moon. Moon has 4 points

> and is placed in

> the 5th house. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars so

> this sub can represent

> that also. Moon is not samdharmi to any other planet

> in the chart.

> THIS SHOULD BE CHECKED WITH NAVAMANSHA CHART, YOU MUST

> HAVE CHECKED IT, IT

> MEANS NO PLANET IS IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF MOON)

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Actually only Rahu is in the navamsha of

> Moon. Do planets become

> samdharmi to their dispositor in Rashi and Navamsha

> both or only in

> Navamsha? Would this not lead to too many samdharmis

> so that any event might

> be explained?

>

> & gt; Since Moon has only 4 points, it can signify

> matters related to

> only the 8th and 12th houses where it is lord of D and

> E. CORRECT.

>

> & gt;Mars also has only one point so it can signify

> matters related to 4,

> 5, 9 and 12 where it is the lord of D or E. CORRECT. (

> WHERE MARS IS

> SITUATED?)

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; It is in the 9th house.

>

> & gt; The functional karaka for the 4th and 5th house

> is Saturn. For 8th

> it is Venus, for 9th and 12th it is Mercury. (ALSO FOR

> 5TH)

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; I thought we were only to look for the

> functional karakas for the houses

> signified by the sub period lord or its samdharmi. I

> also thought the karak

> is the lord of the 8th house. Is a planet in the 8th

> house with 5 poitns or

> more also a karak for that house?

>

> & gt; Since Saturn is neither the main lord or its

> samdharmi (IT MEANS

> MERCURY IS NOT IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF SATURN, AND SATURN

> IS NOT SITUATED IN

> 9TH OR 3RD HOUSE) ,

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; All these conditions are true as you

> would see from the chart. However,

> if Saturn was in one of the conditions nnnmentioned by

> you, what would be

> the significance?

>

> & gt;...the emphasis in this period must be restricted

> to & nbsp; 8th, 9th, and

> 12th houses.

> AS PER WORK SHEET HOW MANY POINTS MOON IS GETING

> FOR

> OTHER HOUSES. IT WILL GIVE GOOD RESULTS FOR HOUSES

> HAVING MORE POINTS AND

> MALEFIC RESULTS FOR HOUSES HAVING LESS POINTS. ALL THE

> RESULTS WILL BE

> CONNECTED TO 5,9,12TH HOUSES. RESULTS OF DIFFERENT

> HOUSES WILL BE

> EXPERIENCED AS PER THE 17 MONTHS PERIOD OF MOON IN

> MERCURY. THE EVENT DATES

> WILL BE RELATED TO OTHER PLANETS HAVING RELATIVE

> POINTS AND TRANSIT OF SUN

> IN THOSE SIGN OR CONSTELLATIONS.

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Moon has less than 12 points for all

> house except 8th where it has 12

> points. Does this mean that bad results will be felt

> for all these houses?

> Or will these be restricted to the 9th or 12th

> houses.

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; I am still having soem problem in

> understanding how the events will be

> related to the 5th house instead of the 8th house.

>

> & gt; The events related to 8th, 9th and 12th houses

> will occur during

> this period and these will be with the support of the

> 3rd, 4th, 7th, and 8th

> houses (PERTICULARLY FOR THE RESULT OF 11TH HOUSE ,

> 4TH HOUSE,AND 2ND HOUSE)

> ( DUE TO MOON'S SIGHT ON 11TH HOUSE) & gt; (lordship of

> the main period lord and

> its samdharmi).

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & nbsp; Could you please advise how would

> the results be related to the 11th

> 4th and 2nd houses?

>

> & gt; Please advise if this reasoning is correct. YOUR

> REASONING IS

> CORRECT,

>

> & gt; Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. However, we

> are using Venus

> as a samdharmi to the main period lord, Mercury. Can

> we use this period

> for events related to 4th and 5th houses also since

> Saturn is the karak

> for these and is samdharmi to Venus? VENUS CAN BE USED

> IF YOU ARE

> FINDING THE RESULT OF 2ND HOUSE , SIXTH HOUSE, 11TH

> HOUSE. WHERE VENUS BEING

> SAMDHARMI TO MERCURY WILL COME FORWARD. (DUE TO SIGHT

> OF MERCURY ON 6TH

> HOUSE)

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; I am only looking here for the main

> period lord indications and looked

> to Venus as Mercury is samdharmi to it. As far as I

> understand, the sight of

> a main period lord is not relevant and only that of a

> subperiod lord is

> relevant.

>

> & gt; Your reply would be highly appreciated.

> & gt; IF YOU GIVE COMPLETE CHART IT WILL BE EASY TO

> ANSWER, IF ANY POINT LEFT

> OUT. ........KRUSHNA

>

> & gt; & gt; & gt; The chart details as well as worksheet is

> enclosed.

>

> Once again, I have no specific queries relating to

> this chart. I am only

> trying to understand the principles you mentioned.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

> </tt>

>

>

>

>

>

> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2>

> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC>

> <td align=center><font size= " -1 "

> color=#003399>

June 7, 2001

Dear Sanjay,

My comments in block letters.

krushna

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> I have studied your answer. While everything is not crystal clear,

it seems

> that there can be some rules that we can follow from your

explanations.

> These are:

>

> 1. A planet is functional karak (FK) for the house for it is the

lord of the 8th from it. CORRECT

It is also the FK for which it is in 8th from B with more than

> 4 points. IT ACTS AS SAMDHARMI TO FK. FOR MERCURY IT IS MORE TRUE.

mERCURY ACTS AS PER THE SIGN LORD, AND FOR THE PLANET IT IS SITUATED

WITH.

>

> 2. If planet A is in the rashi or navamsha of B then A is samdharmi

to B. That is, it can give the result for B.CORRECT. But B is not

samdharmi to it. B would not give the result for A unless

it was samdharmi sue to some other reason. CORRECT

>

> - A and B are samdharmi to each other Please advise which of

the above is correct. ABOVE IS CORRECT

>

> 3. At a particular time, there may be results related to any house

B. However, these results will not be related to houses for which the

main lord is FK if the main lord has sight on B. OR SIGHT ON A OR C

ALSO. THIS ABOUT MAIN DASHA LORD. RESULT WILL RELATED TO THE HOUSES

FOR WHOM SAMDHARMI PLANET IS LORD.

> I will not ask any more questions as this takes too much of your

time. But I would request you to answer these. U ARE WELCOME

>

> As I have many many more questions, I would highly appreciate if

you could

> illustrate these concepts by showing more examples. At your own

convenience,

> of course. YES I WILL TRY TO GIVE. .......KRUSHNA

>

> Thanks and kind regards

> Sanjay

> -

> <krushanain@h...>

>

> Friday, June 01, 2001 6:30 PM

> Re: Picking up the relevant

items in a

> chart for a sub period

>

> Dear Sanjay,

> You are welcome with more questions. Please ask one or two

> questions in a mail. More questions in one mail, results in keeping

> it pending. I came to this fact, after thinking over the matter. Big

> mail or more questions remains pending, only because answering small

> mail or one question is easy. So after answering all small mail, it

> is too late, so big mails are kept pending, with a thought I will

> answer it tomarrow. and tommarrow never comes.

> krushna

>

> , " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg@l...>

> wrote:

> > Respected Krushnaji,

> >

> > Thank you for the answers. I am sorry that I caused the tension.

> >

> > I am now studying your answers as well as the several exchanges

> that you had

> > with Peter which seem to be very illuminating. I am sure that I

> will come

> > back with more questions.

> >

> > I will take your advice and try to ask separate questions. The

> problem is

> > that everything seems to be linked with everything else initially

> until you

> > start clarifying the issues.

> >

> > Thanks again.

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Sanjay

> > -

> > " krushna jugalkalani " <krushanain>

> >

> > Friday, June 01, 2001 4:16 AM

> > Re: Re: Picking up the

relevant

> items in

> > a chart for a sub period

> >

> > Dear Sanjay,

> > My answers are in serial no.

> > 1. No you are not, as you called your self. You have

> > done a very nice thing for the list. The work sheet

> > you have made, is very help ful. It is realy a

> > wonderful job you have done.

> > 2. Mercury is in house A with more points for house 5

> > as B. We consider lord of the house and planets

> > situated in any house with more then 4 points.

> > 3. Yes there can be more then one samdharmi, We have

> > to select the powerful out of those. Here Moon is

> > malefic for this chart, as it is having very less

> > points for all houses. Only for 8th house it is with

> > 12 points. So Rahu sub will give malefic result.

> > 4.

> > 5. as per ans 2nd. Some time the planets situated in

> > the house becomes more powerful FK.

> > 6. Saturn would have been samdharmi to Mercury.

> > 7. Yes. even Rahu being samdharmi to moon also do the

> > same thing.

> > 8 The main Dasha lord lord is Mercury, and it is

> > F.K. for 5,9.and 12 houses. ( for 5th house it is

> > being with more points in 8th house) Here I mean the

> > result must have some connection with these house. The

> > Moon being sub lord, so in it's sub period it will

> > give malefic result for all the houses. Those results

> > should have some connection with 5th 9th and 12th

> > houses. for example 9th and 12th house denotes some

> > travel. So person may loose some money, or theft in

> > traveling. for 5th house loss in lottery, gambling.

> > Some loss or bad fortune due to children etc.

> > 9. Result for 11th house in moon sub, it is having

> > only 9 points, In moon sub there will not be any

> > achivement for 11th house, and the reasoning may be

> > Children, father of the jatak, or 12th house matter.

> > 4th house: Some problem for 4th house, loss of

> > happiness in family, reason may be as above.

> > 2nd similar result for 2nd house.

> > 10. Yes we do not consider the sight of main period

> > lord for our calculation purpose. but the result for

> > 6th house, will not be related to 5, 9 and 12th house.

> > because mercury the main period lord is aspecting 6th

> > house. Any malefic result in Moon sub for 6th house,

> > will not have any connection with the houses, for

> > those mercury is FK.

> > Sorry Sanjay, The delay was not deliberate. For

> > this or that reason delay was causing. Yes you can

> > blame me, that I answered others qu, and not yours.

> > One thing the I can say in excuse that this message

> > became more complecated, due to your and mine write

> > up.

> > I think, it is much easy to ask separate qu.

> > instead of using the same.

> > Any how I was having tension, for not answering

> > your queries. Any how it is now 2:35 Am., and I have

> > done it. Now tension free.

> > thanks

> > krushna

> >

> > --- Sanjay Jaggia <sanjaygg@l...> wrote:

> > <HR>

> > <html><body>

> > <tt>

> > Respected Krushnaji,

> >

> > Thank you for your prompt reply. The relevant chart

> > details are as follows:

> >

> > Ascendant - Pisces. Sun in 11th house (5 points) ,

> > Moon in 5th (4 points),

> > Mars in 9th (2 points), Mercury in 12th (5 points),

> > Jupiter in 2nd (4

> > points), Venus in 12th (4 points), Saturn in 10th (4

> > points), Rahu in lagna

> > and Ketu in 7th.

> >

> > Navamsha lagna - Aquarius. Sun in Gemini, Moon in

> > Libra, Mars in Aquarius,

> > Mercury in Scorpio, Jupiter in Aries, Venus in Gemini,

> > Saturn in Taurus,

> > Rahu in Cancer, and Ketu in Capricorn.

> >

> > I am attaching the worksheet summary for you to see if

> > you need to.

> >

> > There is no specific event that I am trying to prove.

> > I am just trying to

> > understand your system of picking up the relevant

> > areas of life.

> >

> > Having given this background, I have some queries on

> > your reply which I hope

> > you will see below and answer. My original questions

> > are preceded by ' & gt;',

> > your reply is in capitals, and my new questions are

> > marked by ' & gt; & gt; & gt;'.

> >

> > krushanain@h...

> > To:

> >

> > Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:03 PM

> >

> > Dear Sanjay,

> > & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; After a long time you are in the

> > group. Realy I missed you. No

> > body ask me questions like you.

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Thank you. It is nice to be back. About

> > the questions, I suppose I am

> > just dumber than the other members :-)

> >

> > & gt; Finally, I have gone through the previous lessons

> > and I have time

> > for a few questions. I hope you can find the time to

> > answer these.

> > I am trying to check some events in a chart that I

> > have. The chart

> > is of a Pisces ascendant and Mercury and Venus are in

> > the 12th house.

> > The main period is that of Mercury. Mercury is the

> > lord of 4th and

> > 7th and is in 12th with 5 points.

> >

> > SO IT IS F.K. OF 9TH AND 12TH HOUSE. SO OVER ALL

> > RESULTS GIVEN BY THE SUB

> > PERIOD SHOULD HAVE SOME CONNECTION

> > WITH 9TH 12TH AND 5TH HOUSE ( MERCURY BEING IN 12TH

> > WITH MORE POINTS) AND IT

> > IS NOT ASPECTING ANY OF THE UPCHAY HOUSES RELATED TO

> > THESE HOUSES

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; I thought planets with 5 points or more

> > were relevant when they are in D

> > or E. 12th house is D or E for the 3rd and 7th houses

> > and Mercury should

> > become eager to give results for these. Why should it

> > give results related

> > to 5th for which is only the lord of A?

> >

> > & gt; Venus is the lord of 3 and 8 and is in 12th with

> > 4 points. O.K.

> > & gt; The sub period is that of Moon. Moon has 4 points

> > and is placed in

> > the 5th house. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars so

> > this sub can represent

> > that also. Moon is not samdharmi to any other planet

> > in the chart.

> > THIS SHOULD BE CHECKED WITH NAVAMANSHA CHART, YOU MUST

> > HAVE CHECKED IT, IT

> > MEANS NO PLANET IS IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF MOON)

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Actually only Rahu is in the navamsha of

> > Moon. Do planets become

> > samdharmi to their dispositor in Rashi and Navamsha

> > both or only in

> > Navamsha? Would this not lead to too many samdharmis

> > so that any event might

> > be explained?

> >

> > & gt; Since Moon has only 4 points, it can signify

> > matters related to

> > only the 8th and 12th houses where it is lord of D and

> > E. CORRECT.

> >

> > & gt;Mars also has only one point so it can signify

> > matters related to 4,

> > 5, 9 and 12 where it is the lord of D or E. CORRECT. (

> > WHERE MARS IS

> > SITUATED?)

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; It is in the 9th house.

> >

> > & gt; The functional karaka for the 4th and 5th house

> > is Saturn. For 8th

> > it is Venus, for 9th and 12th it is Mercury. (ALSO FOR

> > 5TH)

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; I thought we were only to look for the

> > functional karakas for the houses

> > signified by the sub period lord or its samdharmi. I

> > also thought the karak

> > is the lord of the 8th house. Is a planet in the 8th

> > house with 5 poitns or

> > more also a karak for that house?

> >

> > & gt; Since Saturn is neither the main lord or its

> > samdharmi (IT MEANS

> > MERCURY IS NOT IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF SATURN, AND SATURN

> > IS NOT SITUATED IN

> > 9TH OR 3RD HOUSE) ,

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; All these conditions are true as you

> > would see from the chart. However,

> > if Saturn was in one of the conditions nnnmentioned by

> > you, what would be

> > the significance?

> >

> > & gt;...the emphasis in this period must be restricted

> > to & nbsp; 8th, 9th, and

> > 12th houses.

> > AS PER WORK SHEET HOW MANY POINTS MOON IS GETING

> > FOR

> > OTHER HOUSES. IT WILL GIVE GOOD RESULTS FOR HOUSES

> > HAVING MORE POINTS AND

> > MALEFIC RESULTS FOR HOUSES HAVING LESS POINTS. ALL THE

> > RESULTS WILL BE

> > CONNECTED TO 5,9,12TH HOUSES. RESULTS OF DIFFERENT

> > HOUSES WILL BE

> > EXPERIENCED AS PER THE 17 MONTHS PERIOD OF MOON IN

> > MERCURY. THE EVENT DATES

> > WILL BE RELATED TO OTHER PLANETS HAVING RELATIVE

> > POINTS AND TRANSIT OF SUN

> > IN THOSE SIGN OR CONSTELLATIONS.

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Moon has less than 12 points for all

> > house except 8th where it has 12

> > points. Does this mean that bad results will be felt

> > for all these houses?

> > Or will these be restricted to the 9th or 12th

> > houses.

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; I am still having soem problem in

> > understanding how the events will be

> > related to the 5th house instead of the 8th house.

> >

> > & gt; The events related to 8th, 9th and 12th houses

> > will occur during

> > this period and these will be with the support of the

> > 3rd, 4th, 7th, and 8th

> > houses (PERTICULARLY FOR THE RESULT OF 11TH HOUSE ,

> > 4TH HOUSE,AND 2ND HOUSE)

> > ( DUE TO MOON'S SIGHT ON 11TH HOUSE) & gt; (lordship of

> > the main period lord and

> > its samdharmi).

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & nbsp; Could you please advise how would

> > the results be related to the 11th

> > 4th and 2nd houses?

> >

> > & gt; Please advise if this reasoning is correct. YOUR

> > REASONING IS

> > CORRECT,

> >

> > & gt; Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. However, we

> > are using Venus

> > as a samdharmi to the main period lord, Mercury. Can

> > we use this period

> > for events related to 4th and 5th houses also since

> > Saturn is the karak

> > for these and is samdharmi to Venus? VENUS CAN BE USED

> > IF YOU ARE

> > FINDING THE RESULT OF 2ND HOUSE , SIXTH HOUSE, 11TH

> > HOUSE. WHERE VENUS BEING

> > SAMDHARMI TO MERCURY WILL COME FORWARD. (DUE TO SIGHT

> > OF MERCURY ON 6TH

> > HOUSE)

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; I am only looking here for the main

> > period lord indications and looked

> > to Venus as Mercury is samdharmi to it. As far as I

> > understand, the sight of

> > a main period lord is not relevant and only that of a

> > subperiod lord is

> > relevant.

> >

> > & gt; Your reply would be highly appreciated.

> > & gt; IF YOU GIVE COMPLETE CHART IT WILL BE EASY TO

> > ANSWER, IF ANY POINT LEFT

> > OUT. ........KRUSHNA

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; The chart details as well as worksheet is

> > enclosed.

> >

> > Once again, I have no specific queries relating to

> > this chart. I am only

> > trying to understand the principles you mentioned.

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Sanjay

> > </tt>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC>

> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 "

> > color=#003399>

June 8, 2001

Respected Krushnaji,

Thank you for your answers. I will come with more questions after I come

back from a 3 week trip starting tomorrow.

Kind regards

Sanjay

-

<krushanain

Friday, June 08, 2001 12:53 AM

Re: Picking up the relevant items in a

chart for a sub period

Dear Sanjay,

My comments in block letters.

krushna

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> I have studied your answer. While everything is not crystal clear,

it seems

> that there can be some rules that we can follow from your

explanations.

> These are:

>

> 1. A planet is functional karak (FK) for the house for it is the

lord of the 8th from it. CORRECT

It is also the FK for which it is in 8th from B with more than

> 4 points. IT ACTS AS SAMDHARMI TO FK. FOR MERCURY IT IS MORE TRUE.

mERCURY ACTS AS PER THE SIGN LORD, AND FOR THE PLANET IT IS SITUATED

WITH.

>

> 2. If planet A is in the rashi or navamsha of B then A is samdharmi

to B. That is, it can give the result for B.CORRECT. But B is not

samdharmi to it. B would not give the result for A unless

it was samdharmi sue to some other reason. CORRECT

>

> - A and B are samdharmi to each other Please advise which of

the above is correct. ABOVE IS CORRECT

>

> 3. At a particular time, there may be results related to any house

B. However, these results will not be related to houses for which the

main lord is FK if the main lord has sight on B. OR SIGHT ON A OR C

ALSO. THIS ABOUT MAIN DASHA LORD. RESULT WILL RELATED TO THE HOUSES

FOR WHOM SAMDHARMI PLANET IS LORD.

> I will not ask any more questions as this takes too much of your

time. But I would request you to answer these. U ARE WELCOME

>

> As I have many many more questions, I would highly appreciate if

you could

> illustrate these concepts by showing more examples. At your own

convenience,

> of course. YES I WILL TRY TO GIVE. .......KRUSHNA

>

> Thanks and kind regards

> Sanjay

> -

> <krushanain@h...>

>

> Friday, June 01, 2001 6:30 PM

> Re: Picking up the relevant

items in a

> chart for a sub period

>

> Dear Sanjay,

> You are welcome with more questions. Please ask one or two

> questions in a mail. More questions in one mail, results in keeping

> it pending. I came to this fact, after thinking over the matter. Big

> mail or more questions remains pending, only because answering small

> mail or one question is easy. So after answering all small mail, it

> is too late, so big mails are kept pending, with a thought I will

> answer it tomarrow. and tommarrow never comes.

> krushna

>

> , " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg@l...>

> wrote:

> > Respected Krushnaji,

> >

> > Thank you for the answers. I am sorry that I caused the tension.

> >

> > I am now studying your answers as well as the several exchanges

> that you had

> > with Peter which seem to be very illuminating. I am sure that I

> will come

> > back with more questions.

> >

> > I will take your advice and try to ask separate questions. The

> problem is

> > that everything seems to be linked with everything else initially

> until you

> > start clarifying the issues.

> >

> > Thanks again.

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Sanjay

> > -

> > " krushna jugalkalani " <krushanain>

> >

> > Friday, June 01, 2001 4:16 AM

> > Re: Re: Picking up the

relevant

> items in

> > a chart for a sub period

> >

> > Dear Sanjay,

> > My answers are in serial no.

> > 1. No you are not, as you called your self. You have

> > done a very nice thing for the list. The work sheet

> > you have made, is very help ful. It is realy a

> > wonderful job you have done.

> > 2. Mercury is in house A with more points for house 5

> > as B. We consider lord of the house and planets

> > situated in any house with more then 4 points.

> > 3. Yes there can be more then one samdharmi, We have

> > to select the powerful out of those. Here Moon is

> > malefic for this chart, as it is having very less

> > points for all houses. Only for 8th house it is with

> > 12 points. So Rahu sub will give malefic result.

> > 4.

> > 5. as per ans 2nd. Some time the planets situated in

> > the house becomes more powerful FK.

> > 6. Saturn would have been samdharmi to Mercury.

> > 7. Yes. even Rahu being samdharmi to moon also do the

> > same thing.

> > 8 The main Dasha lord lord is Mercury, and it is

> > F.K. for 5,9.and 12 houses. ( for 5th house it is

> > being with more points in 8th house) Here I mean the

> > result must have some connection with these house. The

> > Moon being sub lord, so in it's sub period it will

> > give malefic result for all the houses. Those results

> > should have some connection with 5th 9th and 12th

> > houses. for example 9th and 12th house denotes some

> > travel. So person may loose some money, or theft in

> > traveling. for 5th house loss in lottery, gambling.

> > Some loss or bad fortune due to children etc.

> > 9. Result for 11th house in moon sub, it is having

> > only 9 points, In moon sub there will not be any

> > achivement for 11th house, and the reasoning may be

> > Children, father of the jatak, or 12th house matter.

> > 4th house: Some problem for 4th house, loss of

> > happiness in family, reason may be as above.

> > 2nd similar result for 2nd house.

> > 10. Yes we do not consider the sight of main period

> > lord for our calculation purpose. but the result for

> > 6th house, will not be related to 5, 9 and 12th house.

> > because mercury the main period lord is aspecting 6th

> > house. Any malefic result in Moon sub for 6th house,

> > will not have any connection with the houses, for

> > those mercury is FK.

> > Sorry Sanjay, The delay was not deliberate. For

> > this or that reason delay was causing. Yes you can

> > blame me, that I answered others qu, and not yours.

> > One thing the I can say in excuse that this message

> > became more complecated, due to your and mine write

> > up.

> > I think, it is much easy to ask separate qu.

> > instead of using the same.

> > Any how I was having tension, for not answering

> > your queries. Any how it is now 2:35 Am., and I have

> > done it. Now tension free.

> > thanks

> > krushna

> >

> > --- Sanjay Jaggia <sanjaygg@l...> wrote:

> > <HR>

> > <html><body>

> > <tt>

> > Respected Krushnaji,

> >

> > Thank you for your prompt reply. The relevant chart

> > details are as follows:

> >

> > Ascendant - Pisces. Sun in 11th house (5 points) ,

> > Moon in 5th (4 points),

> > Mars in 9th (2 points), Mercury in 12th (5 points),

> > Jupiter in 2nd (4

> > points), Venus in 12th (4 points), Saturn in 10th (4

> > points), Rahu in lagna

> > and Ketu in 7th.

> >

> > Navamsha lagna - Aquarius. Sun in Gemini, Moon in

> > Libra, Mars in Aquarius,

> > Mercury in Scorpio, Jupiter in Aries, Venus in Gemini,

> > Saturn in Taurus,

> > Rahu in Cancer, and Ketu in Capricorn.

> >

> > I am attaching the worksheet summary for you to see if

> > you need to.

> >

> > There is no specific event that I am trying to prove.

> > I am just trying to

> > understand your system of picking up the relevant

> > areas of life.

> >

> > Having given this background, I have some queries on

> > your reply which I hope

> > you will see below and answer. My original questions

> > are preceded by ' & gt;',

> > your reply is in capitals, and my new questions are

> > marked by ' & gt; & gt; & gt;'.

> >

> > krushanain@h...

> > To:

> >

> > Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:03 PM

> >

> > Dear Sanjay,

> > & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; After a long time you are in the

> > group. Realy I missed you. No

> > body ask me questions like you.

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Thank you. It is nice to be back. About

> > the questions, I suppose I am

> > just dumber than the other members :-)

> >

> > & gt; Finally, I have gone through the previous lessons

> > and I have time

> > for a few questions. I hope you can find the time to

> > answer these.

> > I am trying to check some events in a chart that I

> > have. The chart

> > is of a Pisces ascendant and Mercury and Venus are in

> > the 12th house.

> > The main period is that of Mercury. Mercury is the

> > lord of 4th and

> > 7th and is in 12th with 5 points.

> >

> > SO IT IS F.K. OF 9TH AND 12TH HOUSE. SO OVER ALL

> > RESULTS GIVEN BY THE SUB

> > PERIOD SHOULD HAVE SOME CONNECTION

> > WITH 9TH 12TH AND 5TH HOUSE ( MERCURY BEING IN 12TH

> > WITH MORE POINTS) AND IT

> > IS NOT ASPECTING ANY OF THE UPCHAY HOUSES RELATED TO

> > THESE HOUSES

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; I thought planets with 5 points or more

> > were relevant when they are in D

> > or E. 12th house is D or E for the 3rd and 7th houses

> > and Mercury should

> > become eager to give results for these. Why should it

> > give results related

> > to 5th for which is only the lord of A?

> >

> > & gt; Venus is the lord of 3 and 8 and is in 12th with

> > 4 points. O.K.

> > & gt; The sub period is that of Moon. Moon has 4 points

> > and is placed in

> > the 5th house. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars so

> > this sub can represent

> > that also. Moon is not samdharmi to any other planet

> > in the chart.

> > THIS SHOULD BE CHECKED WITH NAVAMANSHA CHART, YOU MUST

> > HAVE CHECKED IT, IT

> > MEANS NO PLANET IS IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF MOON)

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Actually only Rahu is in the navamsha of

> > Moon. Do planets become

> > samdharmi to their dispositor in Rashi and Navamsha

> > both or only in

> > Navamsha? Would this not lead to too many samdharmis

> > so that any event might

> > be explained?

> >

> > & gt; Since Moon has only 4 points, it can signify

> > matters related to

> > only the 8th and 12th houses where it is lord of D and

> > E. CORRECT.

> >

> > & gt;Mars also has only one point so it can signify

> > matters related to 4,

> > 5, 9 and 12 where it is the lord of D or E. CORRECT. (

> > WHERE MARS IS

> > SITUATED?)

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; It is in the 9th house.

> >

> > & gt; The functional karaka for the 4th and 5th house

> > is Saturn. For 8th

> > it is Venus, for 9th and 12th it is Mercury. (ALSO FOR

> > 5TH)

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; I thought we were only to look for the

> > functional karakas for the houses

> > signified by the sub period lord or its samdharmi. I

> > also thought the karak

> > is the lord of the 8th house. Is a planet in the 8th

> > house with 5 poitns or

> > more also a karak for that house?

> >

> > & gt; Since Saturn is neither the main lord or its

> > samdharmi (IT MEANS

> > MERCURY IS NOT IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF SATURN, AND SATURN

> > IS NOT SITUATED IN

> > 9TH OR 3RD HOUSE) ,

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; All these conditions are true as you

> > would see from the chart. However,

> > if Saturn was in one of the conditions nnnmentioned by

> > you, what would be

> > the significance?

> >

> > & gt;...the emphasis in this period must be restricted

> > to & nbsp; 8th, 9th, and

> > 12th houses.

> > AS PER WORK SHEET HOW MANY POINTS MOON IS GETING

> > FOR

> > OTHER HOUSES. IT WILL GIVE GOOD RESULTS FOR HOUSES

> > HAVING MORE POINTS AND

> > MALEFIC RESULTS FOR HOUSES HAVING LESS POINTS. ALL THE

> > RESULTS WILL BE

> > CONNECTED TO 5,9,12TH HOUSES. RESULTS OF DIFFERENT

> > HOUSES WILL BE

> > EXPERIENCED AS PER THE 17 MONTHS PERIOD OF MOON IN

> > MERCURY. THE EVENT DATES

> > WILL BE RELATED TO OTHER PLANETS HAVING RELATIVE

> > POINTS AND TRANSIT OF SUN

> > IN THOSE SIGN OR CONSTELLATIONS.

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Moon has less than 12 points for all

> > house except 8th where it has 12

> > points. Does this mean that bad results will be felt

> > for all these houses?

> > Or will these be restricted to the 9th or 12th

> > houses.

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; I am still having soem problem in

> > understanding how the events will be

> > related to the 5th house instead of the 8th house.

> >

> > & gt; The events related to 8th, 9th and 12th houses

> > will occur during

> > this period and these will be with the support of the

> > 3rd, 4th, 7th, and 8th

> > houses (PERTICULARLY FOR THE RESULT OF 11TH HOUSE ,

> > 4TH HOUSE,AND 2ND HOUSE)

> > ( DUE TO MOON'S SIGHT ON 11TH HOUSE) & gt; (lordship of

> > the main period lord and

> > its samdharmi).

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & nbsp; Could you please advise how would

> > the results be related to the 11th

> > 4th and 2nd houses?

> >

> > & gt; Please advise if this reasoning is correct. YOUR

> > REASONING IS

> > CORRECT,

> >

> > & gt; Venus is natural samdharmi to Saturn. However, we

> > are using Venus

> > as a samdharmi to the main period lord, Mercury. Can

> > we use this period

> > for events related to 4th and 5th houses also since

> > Saturn is the karak

> > for these and is samdharmi to Venus? VENUS CAN BE USED

> > IF YOU ARE

> > FINDING THE RESULT OF 2ND HOUSE , SIXTH HOUSE, 11TH

> > HOUSE. WHERE VENUS BEING

> > SAMDHARMI TO MERCURY WILL COME FORWARD. (DUE TO SIGHT

> > OF MERCURY ON 6TH

> > HOUSE)

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; I am only looking here for the main

> > period lord indications and looked

> > to Venus as Mercury is samdharmi to it. As far as I

> > understand, the sight of

> > a main period lord is not relevant and only that of a

> > subperiod lord is

> > relevant.

> >

> > & gt; Your reply would be highly appreciated.

> > & gt; IF YOU GIVE COMPLETE CHART IT WILL BE EASY TO

> > ANSWER, IF ANY POINT LEFT

> > OUT. ........KRUSHNA

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; The chart details as well as worksheet is

> > enclosed.

> >

> > Once again, I have no specific queries relating to

> > this chart. I am only

> > trying to understand the principles you mentioned.

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Sanjay

> > </tt>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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June 8, 2001

Dear Sanjay,

You are welcome

krushna

, " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg@l...>

wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> Thank you for your answers. I will come with more questions after I

come

> back from a 3 week trip starting tomorrow.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

>

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