Guest guest Posted March 3, 2001 Report Share Posted March 3, 2001 Dear Margarita, Congratulations, your finding is perfact. She lost her husband on the day. The event happened all of a sudden, no prerior intimation. He expired due to brain hammerage, and within no time, before knowing what is happening he left this world. The Venus in krittika, Jupiter in navamansha chart is in Libra, Zero point in 8th house due to mars, and being in 12th house made the chart known as " Mangalik " . This had been powerful due to its situation in Libra navamansh ( due to Venus in krittika). Generally " Mangalik Kundali " (Chart) when the mars is in 12, 1, 4th , 7th and 8th house are known as Mangalik. Many a time the Mars is not powerful, but in India, When Mars is situated in such position astrologer do not recommonds such chart for marriage compectabilty, until and unless it should have some contra effect or nullified by other planets in the chart of other member. The main period of Rahu, situated in 9th house, which is house 'A' for longevity of the husband, and Moon is situated in house D with 6 points, becames eager to give the result. Moon do not get power from the planet in it's fourth house, but becames more melefic if some melefic planet is situated in it's fourth place. Venus in krittika becomes malefic, and situated in the fourth place from Moon. Moon is with more points so more opposition. Mercury is lord of house E. Sun on the day of the event was having it's transit in Gemini ( Mercury) and in the constellation of Rahu, which is situated in 9th house. Once again congratulations for nice logic and perfact result. krushna , " Lettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > Well, let's starts with the things we know about this chart > > > The lord of the 6th is in the asc. Even if it loses it's malefic nature as lord of the 12th; this position of the Sun > gives self indulgence. Sun has sight with 5 points on the 7th > Jupiter is in the 1st with 5 points, so he will have sight with negative points on the 5th, 7th and 9th. > Saturn aspects the 1st, 6th and 10th and Mercury collects his points, so he becomes strong > The aspects and influence of the lord of the 12th on the first and planets is not so good. > > Two important events happened in the end of june. > The Sun is then at about 10° Gemini and in Mrigashiras, so this is Mars and Mercury. Mercury has highest points in the worksheet; Mars is average. > Both events happend in Rahu Dasha and Rahu is in Mars' sign > Mars is karaka (house A) for marriage > Mars has 0 points in the 8th house > Mars has less then 12 points for the 1dt,2nd,7th,8th,and 10th houses > Mercury is lord of 4th and 7th, again related to homelife and marriage. > Mercury becomes strong for the chart because of the points of Saturn > > She married in bukti of Venus > Venus is lord of the 3th and 8th houses, so it's surely not the best planet for the chart > Venus is in Krittika and in the 2nd house > Venus is in the 6th nav. and trimsha. > Venus has less then 12 points for the 1st,4th,8th,11th and 12th houses > Venus has good points (15)and could give marriage (so could saturn (15) and mercury > Venus is Atmakaraka and her benefic or malefic influence is thus strong; in nav she moves to a house with 35 points > > The event of 27.06.2000 > She was running a rahu/Moon period > Moon and Mars are natural samdharmi and can give results for each other bur Moon period comes first > Moon is lord of D for the 8th house > Moon is lord of E for the 12th house > This means that in the subperiod of the Moon, lord of the 5th, results can be linked to the 8th and 12th houses and this means loss and sorrow. > > The chart is not so good for children either. Taking the 5th as B > Jupiter as lord of the 6th aspects the 5th (B) and house C, the result > Moon also aspects house B. Both cast negative sight on this house. > Saturn, lord of A is in the 12th from B > For these reasons I don't think it was childbirth which could have happened after marriage. > > As the chart doesn't look good for marriage, the event could be related to the marriage > Thinking of separation of divorce and looking at the 6th as B > The Moon becomes the lord of the 12th and is in E. She can give results. > > If we now take the 7th as A then the 12th becomes B and the 4th C, all houses that have something to do with married life. > Mars and Moon are lords of houses D and E and both being strong can give results > Mercury is lord of A (the 7th) and C, the 4th, a nice significator planet. So when Sun passes in his sign results can happen because Mercury has most points. > > There are also hints for a second marriage : > Mars in the 12th house > four planets have less than 12 points for the 7th house > > For this reason I think that the event was a the ending of her marriage through separation, divorce or death of the husband. > > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2001 Report Share Posted March 4, 2001 Respected Krushna, Thank your for the answer. There are always some points I missed and it's nice to discover them. I went through the 2nd house as B and there is all becomes very clear that the husband died. Best regards Margarita - krushanain Sunday, March 04, 2001 6:23 AM Re: example chart Dear Margarita,Congratulations, your finding is perfact. She lost her husband on the day. The event happened all of a sudden, no prerior intimation. He expired due to brain hammerage, and within no time, before knowing what is happening he left this world. The Venus in krittika, Jupiter in navamansha chart is in Libra, Zero point in 8th house due to mars, and being in 12th house made the chart known as "Mangalik". This had been powerful due to its situation in Libra navamansh ( due to Venus in krittika). Generally "Mangalik Kundali" (Chart) when the mars is in 12, 1, 4th , 7th and 8th house are known as Mangalik. Many a time the Mars is not powerful, but in India, When Mars is situated in such position astrologer do not recommonds such chart for marriage compectabilty, until and unless it should have some contra effect or nullified by other planets in the chart of other member. The main period of Rahu, situated in 9th house, which is house 'A' for longevity of the husband, and Moon is situated in house D with 6 points, becames eager to give the result. Moon do not get power from the planet in it's fourth house, but becames more melefic if some melefic planet is situated in it's fourth place. Venus in krittika becomes malefic, and situated in the fourth place from Moon. Moon is with more points so more opposition. Mercury is lord of house E. Sun on the day of the event was having it's transit in Gemini ( Mercury) and in the constellation of Rahu, which is situated in 9th house. Once again congratulations for nice logic and perfact result.krushna , "Lettens" <dmlettens@s...> wrote:> Respected Krushna, listmembers,> > Well, let's starts with the things we know about this chart> > > The lord of the 6th is in the asc. Even if it loses it's malefic nature as lord of the 12th; this position of the Sun > gives self indulgence. Sun has sight with 5 points on the 7th> Jupiter is in the 1st with 5 points, so he will have sight with negative points on the 5th, 7th and 9th.> Saturn aspects the 1st, 6th and 10th and Mercury collects his points, so he becomes strong> The aspects and influence of the lord of the 12th on the first and planets is not so good.> > Two important events happened in the end of june. > The Sun is then at about 10° Gemini and in Mrigashiras, so this is Mars and Mercury. Mercury has highest points in the worksheet; Mars is average.> Both events happend in Rahu Dasha and Rahu is in Mars' sign> Mars is karaka (house A) for marriage> Mars has 0 points in the 8th house> Mars has less then 12 points for the 1dt,2nd,7th,8th,and 10th houses> Mercury is lord of 4th and 7th, again related to homelife and marriage.> Mercury becomes strong for the chart because of the points of Saturn> > She married in bukti of Venus> Venus is lord of the 3th and 8th houses, so it's surely not the best planet for the chart> Venus is in Krittika and in the 2nd house> Venus is in the 6th nav. and trimsha.> Venus has less then 12 points for the 1st,4th,8th,11th and 12th houses> Venus has good points (15)and could give marriage (so could saturn(15) and mercury> Venus is Atmakaraka and her benefic or malefic influence is thus strong; in nav she moves to a house with 35 points> > The event of 27.06.2000> She was running a rahu/Moon period> Moon and Mars are natural samdharmi and can give results for each other bur Moon period comes first> Moon is lord of D for the 8th house> Moon is lord of E for the 12th house> This means that in the subperiod of the Moon, lord of the 5th, results can be linked to the 8th and 12th houses and this means loss and sorrow.> > The chart is not so good for children either. Taking the 5th as B> Jupiter as lord of the 6th aspects the 5th (B) and house C, the result> Moon also aspects house B. Both cast negative sight on this house.> Saturn, lord of A is in the 12th from B> For these reasons I don't think it was childbirth which could have happened after marriage.> > As the chart doesn't look good for marriage, the event could be related to the marriage> Thinking of separation of divorce and looking at the 6th as B> The Moon becomes the lord of the 12th and is in E. She can give results.> > If we now take the 7th as A then the 12th becomes B and the 4th C, all houses that have something to do with married life.> Mars and Moon are lords of houses D and E and both being strong can give results> Mercury is lord of A (the 7th) and C, the 4th, a nice significator planet. So when Sun passes in his sign results can happen because Mercury has most points.> > There are also hints for a second marriage :> Mars in the 12th house > four planets have less than 12 points for the 7th house> > For this reason I think that the event was a the ending of her marriage through separation, divorce or death of the husband.> > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Hello Arjun, I went through the different events you mentioned for this chart but with the ashtakavarga system. I saw you used "system approach" which seems very popular these days but somehow it gives me a wrong feeling. So I give you my comments for what they're worth. I think each of us has to stick to the system he feels best with but we can always learn from each other. 1. escaped death at 4.5 months. In one of his mails Krushna stated that infant mortality cannot be seen through this system because it depends on other factors. The native was running his Venus bukti and Venus is in the 2nd house, not a good place to be. She is also lord of the 12th. I think that if we look at the possibility of accident, (operation)or the 7th house, there are some links because Venus becomes lord of B and E and is situated in A. Venus has very high points in the worksheet, so she could be responsible. Looking at the 8th house as B we see Venus aspects B, so she cannot give results herself. 2. born with cleft upperlip I really don't know where to look for that. There must be some special planetary combination I think. Many charts have affliction to their 1st house and/or their lords without having any defects so perhaps somebody should make an astrological study of this kind of defect on hunderds of charts. 3.Lost job ant 25 I suppose this was in Venus/Moon Job gives work and position, so if he lost it let's look at the 5th (12th from 6th) and 9th (12th from 10th) By taking the 5th as B Moon, lord of C is in B and can give results for the 9th and 12th houses or C and A By taking the 9th as B Moon is lord of B, in nav of Jupiter, lord E, so probably Moon acts for Jupiter. 4. Got a job at 26 I suppose that was in Venus Mars Mars is both FK and NK for the 6th but normally he cannot give results because he aspects A, so I think he acts for Jupiter (in D) who is most eager and disposed to give results for 6th and 10th houses. By looking at the 10th as B, we see again Jupiter in E and Mars giving results because samdharmi to Jupiter 5. Married at 27 I suppose that was in Venus/Rahu. Venus and Rahu both are in house A (for the 7th). Rahu becomes samdharmi to Venus who is also lord of E and most eager to give results. But I always find Rahu and Ketu period difficult to interpret because different relationships are involved. I wouldn't have guessed this date for marriage anyway Thank you for sharing this chart. If you have some comments, I'm always glad to have them. Best regards Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2001 Report Share Posted July 11, 2001 Hello Margarita, It is fine with me about the past events to see if the astakvarga chart is correct or not. What can we say about the future of the person. Any form of astrology must prove itself as a forecasting method rather than a backward looking approach. Best Wishes Arjun Bhandari " Lettens " <dmlettens@sky net.be> cc: (bcc: Arjun Bhandari/Europe/ADIA/ae) example chart 07/10/01 06:18 PM Please respond to astrologyandti mingevents Hello Arjun, I went through the different events you mentioned for this chart but with the ashtakavarga system. I saw you used " system approach " which seems very popular these days but somehow it gives me a wrong feeling. So I give you my comments for what they're worth. I think each of us has to stick to the system he feels best with but we can always learn from each other. 1. escaped death at 4.5 months. In one of his mails Krushna stated that infant mortality cannot be seen through this system because it depends on other factors. The native was running his Venus bukti and Venus is in the 2nd house, not a good place to be. She is also lord of the 12th. I think that if we look at the possibility of accident, (operation)or the 7th house, there are some links because Venus becomes lord of B and E and is situated in A. Venus has very high points in the worksheet, so she could be responsible. Looking at the 8th house as B we see Venus aspects B, so she cannot give results herself. 2. born with cleft upperlip I really don't know where to look for that. There must be some special planetary combination I think. Many charts have affliction to their 1st house and/or their lords without having any defects so perhaps somebody should make an astrological study of this kind of defect on hunderds of charts. 3.Lost job ant 25 I suppose this was in Venus/Moon Job gives work and position, so if he lost it let's look at the 5th (12th from 6th) and 9th (12th from 10th) By taking the 5th as B Moon, lord of C is in B and can give results for the 9th and 12th houses or C and A By taking the 9th as B Moon is lord of B, in nav of Jupiter, lord E, so probably Moon acts for Jupiter. 4. Got a job at 26 I suppose that was in Venus Mars Mars is both FK and NK for the 6th but normally he cannot give results because he aspects A, so I think he acts for Jupiter (in D) who is most eager and disposed to give results for 6th and 10th houses. By looking at the 10th as B, we see again Jupiter in E and Mars giving results because samdharmi to Jupiter 5. Married at 27 I suppose that was in Venus/Rahu. Venus and Rahu both are in house A (for the 7th). Rahu becomes samdharmi to Venus who is also lord of E and most eager to give results. But I always find Rahu and Ketu period difficult to interpret because different relationships are involved. I wouldn't have guessed this date for marriage anyway Thank you for sharing this chart. If you have some comments, I'm always glad to have them. Best regards Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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