Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 Dear Dasgupta, Today I have seen your chart, It does not match any of the instances of your life. As per your calculations Jupiter is in libra, which can not give happy marriage life. As per mine calculation it is in 11th house with Ketu. It can not be said as good for the native. It gives much obstacle and changes in life. Your birth time or date of birth may be wrong, and much difference may be there. So it is difficult to say any thing. krushna , " J.K.Dasgupta " <dga@b...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thanks for your reply. It is very logical and thought provoking. > > Well, my chart is with you. Can you tell something about my parents from my chart? Anyway, I cannot find out any thing as nothing matches whether I use any of the system. In fact the 1st method (4th for mother, and 10th for father.) works out a bit closer. > > regards, > > J.K. Dasgupta > > - > krushanain@h... > > Friday, July 13, 2001 1:55 AM > Re: Astakvarga system : Example Chart > > > Dear Dasgupta, > > There are different schools, in vedic astrology,denoting > house for mother and father. > 1) 4th for mother, and 10th for father. > 2) 4th for mother and 9th for father > 3) 3rd for mother and 9th for father > I go for the last one. > 5th house from lagna indicates children, and from 9th house > which indicates father fifth house is Lagna so native child of > father. Now wife is indicated from 7th house, so 7th house from 9th > is 3rd house so wife of father. > Now in our systen 12th house from lagna indicates karkatva > for Children ( 5th house). Now 12th from 9th is 8th house, which > indicates karkatva for Lagna. Now we also say that the house > indicates karkatva of any house also indicates end of the thing. > Here 8th house which is karkatva of Lagna or child of father, > (Native) also indicates Death of Native. > So 9th house from the house of children indicates father, so > ninth house from Lagna should indicate Father of the native. > From all these 3rd house should represent Mother. If we take > 4th house for mother, but it indicates the death of father. > It will be more scientific to take 3rd house for Mother. > Actual practicle results from chart considering 3rd house for > mother gives more closer results. 3rd lord in 4th house, unafflicted > gives more longevity to mother. 9th lord in 8th house with less > points, or with more points in 2nd house and afflicted by Saturn and > Mars, and lord of 8th house, reduces the life span of father. > 9th lord in 10th, un afflicted gives good longevity to > father. > 5th house in male chart indicates children, and 3rd from 5th > house is seventh, indicates wife of the native. So from 7th house > again 11th house indicates children, 7th house is mother here. So > when we take 3rd house for mother, 11th house which is Lagna, > indicates Native. > Study some charts, you will find results more nearer and in > line. > thanks > krushna > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, I also have the doubt that my birht time may not be correct. But how to rectify the time? Is it possible that local time has been used by any chance - by the hospital? It may might be that by 15.9.1947 stiil local time was being used by many in Calcutta! I think some thing may be explained if I consider local time - from the divisional charts. Well, if 3rd house is mother - then from which house siblings are to be seen? Can we understand nature of the father, mother and siblings from a chart? Regards. - krushanain Monday, July 16, 2001 12:56 AM Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, Today I have seen your chart, It does not match any of the instances of your life. As per your calculations Jupiter is in libra, which can not give happy marriage life. As per mine calculation it is in 11th house with Ketu. It can not be said as good for the native. It gives much obstacle and changes in life. Your birth time or date of birth may be wrong, and much difference may be there. So it is difficult to say any thing. krushna, "J.K.Dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:> Respected Krushnaji,> > Thanks for your reply. It is very logical and thought provoking. > > Well, my chart is with you. Can you tell something about my parents from my chart? Anyway, I cannot find out any thing as nothing matches whether I use any of the system. In fact the 1st method (4th for mother, and 10th for father.) works out a bit closer.> > regards,> > J.K. Dasgupta> > - > krushanain@h... > > Friday, July 13, 2001 1:55 AM> Re: Astakvarga system : Example Chart> > > Dear Dasgupta,> > There are different schools, in vedic astrology,denoting > house for mother and father. > 1) 4th for mother, and 10th for father.> 2) 4th for mother and 9th for father> 3) 3rd for mother and 9th for father> I go for the last one. > 5th house from lagna indicates children, and from 9th house > which indicates father fifth house is Lagna so native child of > father. Now wife is indicated from 7th house, so 7th house from 9th > is 3rd house so wife of father.> Now in our systen 12th house from lagna indicates karkatva > for Children ( 5th house). Now 12th from 9th is 8th house, which > indicates karkatva for Lagna. Now we also say that the house > indicates karkatva of any house also indicates end of the thing. > Here 8th house which is karkatva of Lagna or child of father, > (Native) also indicates Death of Native. > So 9th house from the house of children indicates father, so > ninth house from Lagna should indicate Father of the native. > From all these 3rd house should represent Mother. If we take > 4th house for mother, but it indicates the death of father.> It will be more scientific to take 3rd house for Mother. > Actual practicle results from chart considering 3rd house for > mother gives more closer results. 3rd lord in 4th house, unafflicted > gives more longevity to mother. 9th lord in 8th house with less > points, or with more points in 2nd house and afflicted by Saturn and > Mars, and lord of 8th house, reduces the life span of father. > 9th lord in 10th, un afflicted gives good longevity to > father. > 5th house in male chart indicates children, and 3rd from 5th > house is seventh, indicates wife of the native. So from 7th house > again 11th house indicates children, 7th house is mother here. So > when we take 3rd house for mother, 11th house which is Lagna, > indicates Native.> Study some charts, you will find results more nearer and in > line.> thanks> krushna> krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2001 Report Share Posted July 16, 2001 Dear Dasgupta, For Nasta Jatakam Prsna the navamsa lagna of the prsna chart or its trines will indicate the birth ascendant. In this case, Aquarius is in a trine. Try and rectify your birth time to Aquarius ascendant and see how events fit during the times of malefic transits and bhuktis. Hope this helps. Best regards, Swee -----Original Message----- J.K.Dasgupta [dga] 16 July 2001 06:01 To: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Respected Krushnaji, I also have the doubt that my birht time may not be correct. But how to rectify the time? Is it possible that local time has been used by any chance - by the hospital? It may might be that by 15.9.1947 stiil local time was being used by many in Calcutta! I think some thing may be explained if I consider local time - from the divisional charts. Well, if 3rd house is mother - then from which house siblings are to be seen? Can we understand nature of the father, mother and siblings from a chart? Regards. ----- Original Message ----- krushanain Monday, July 16, 2001 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, Today I have seen your chart, It does not match any of the instances of your life. As per your calculations Jupiter is in libra, which can not give happy marriage life. As per mine calculation it is in 11th house with Ketu. It can not be said as good for the native. It gives much obstacle and changes in life. Your birth time or date of birth may be wrong, and much difference may be there. So it is difficult to say any thing. krushna , " J.K.Dasgupta " <dga@b...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thanks for your reply. It is very logical and thought provoking. > > Well, my chart is with you. Can you tell something about my parents from my chart? Anyway, I cannot find out any thing as nothing matches whether I use any of the system. In fact the 1st method (4th for mother, and 10th for father.) works out a bit closer. > > regards, > > J.K. Dasgupta > > - > krushanain@h... > > Friday, July 13, 2001 1:55 AM > Re: Astakvarga system : Example Chart > > > Dear Dasgupta, > > There are different schools, in vedic astrology,denoting > house for mother and father. > 1) 4th for mother, and 10th for father. > 2) 4th for mother and 9th for father > 3) 3rd for mother and 9th for father > I go for the last one. > 5th house from lagna indicates children, and from 9th house > which indicates father fifth house is Lagna so native child of > father. Now wife is indicated from 7th house, so 7th house from 9th > is 3rd house so wife of father. > Now in our systen 12th house from lagna indicates karkatva > for Children ( 5th house). Now 12th from 9th is 8th house, which > indicates karkatva for Lagna. Now we also say that the house > indicates karkatva of any house also indicates end of the thing. > Here 8th house which is karkatva of Lagna or child of father, > (Native) also indicates Death of Native. > So 9th house from the house of children indicates father, so > ninth house from Lagna should indicate Father of the native. > From all these 3rd house should represent Mother. If we take > 4th house for mother, but it indicates the death of father. > It will be more scientific to take 3rd house for Mother. > Actual practicle results from chart considering 3rd house for > mother gives more closer results. 3rd lord in 4th house, unafflicted > gives more longevity to mother. 9th lord in 8th house with less > points, or with more points in 2nd house and afflicted by Saturn and > Mars, and lord of 8th house, reduces the life span of father. > 9th lord in 10th, un afflicted gives good longevity to > father. > 5th house in male chart indicates children, and 3rd from 5th > house is seventh, indicates wife of the native. So from 7th house > again 11th house indicates children, 7th house is mother here. So > when we take 3rd house for mother, 11th house which is Lagna, > indicates Native. > Study some charts, you will find results more nearer and in > line. > thanks > krushna > krushna To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2001 Report Share Posted July 16, 2001 Dear Dasgupta, I do not have your birth data, but drew up a prsna chart after your query on your last mail. I presume your ascendant is a cuspal problem, so time may not be correct. The nasta Jatakam prsna is a snap shot of the prsna chart, and usually your ascendant shows up in a trine in D-9. Try and adjust your ascendant (using Krushnaji’s Ayanamsa ) to 9Aq09 or thereabouts and see how things fit in. It is believed that when the umbilical cord is severed from one’s mother, is the true time of birth. As this is not a list for such, I would rather wait for Krushnaji to teach us how to rectify with his AV system. Hope to have helped. Swee -----Original Message----- J.K.Dasgupta [dga] 16 July 2001 19:01 To: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Swee Chan, Thanks for the reply. But Will you kindly explain more? what is nasta jatakam prsna? Even if I change asc. to Aquarius - at what degree and how to find it. Regards, JK Dasgupta ----- Original Message ----- Swee Chan Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 9:19 PM RE: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, For Nasta Jatakam Prsna the navamsa lagna of the prsna chart or its trines will indicate the birth ascendant. In this case, Aquarius is in a trine. Try and rectify your birth time to Aquarius ascendant and see how events fit during the times of malefic transits and bhuktis. Hope this helps. Best regards, Swee J.K.Dasgupta [dga] 16 July 2001 06:01 To: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Respected Krushnaji, I also have the doubt that my birht time may not be correct. But how to rectify the time? Is it possible that local time has been used by any chance - by the hospital? It may might be that by 15.9.1947 stiil local time was being used by many in Calcutta! I think some thing may be explained if I consider local time - from the divisional charts. Well, if 3rd house is mother - then from which house siblings are to be seen? Can we understand nature of the father, mother and siblings from a chart? Regards. ----- Original Message ----- krushanain Monday, July 16, 2001 12:56 AM Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, Today I have seen your chart, It does not match any of the instances of your life. As per your calculations Jupiter is in libra, which can not give happy marriage life. As per mine calculation it is in 11th house with Ketu. It can not be said as good for the native. It gives much obstacle and changes in life. Your birth time or date of birth may be wrong, and much difference may be there. So it is difficult to say any thing. krushna , " J.K.Dasgupta " <dga@b...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thanks for your reply. It is very logical and thought provoking. > > Well, my chart is with you. Can you tell something about my parents from my chart? Anyway, I cannot find out any thing as nothing matches whether I use any of the system. In fact the 1st method (4th for mother, and 10th for father.) works out a bit closer. > > regards, > > J.K. Dasgupta > > - > krushanain@h... > > Friday, July 13, 2001 1:55 AM > Re: Astakvarga system : Example Chart > > > Dear Dasgupta, > > There are different schools, in vedic astrology,denoting > house for mother and father. > 1) 4th for mother, and 10th for father. > 2) 4th for mother and 9th for father > 3) 3rd for mother and 9th for father > I go for the last one. > 5th house from lagna indicates children, and from 9th house > which indicates father fifth house is Lagna so native child of > father. Now wife is indicated from 7th house, so 7th house from 9th > is 3rd house so wife of father. > Now in our systen 12th house from lagna indicates karkatva > for Children ( 5th house). Now 12th from 9th is 8th house, which > indicates karkatva for Lagna. Now we also say that the house > indicates karkatva of any house also indicates end of the thing. > Here 8th house which is karkatva of Lagna or child of father, > (Native) also indicates Death of Native. > So 9th house from the house of children indicates father, so > ninth house from Lagna should indicate Father of the native. > From all these 3rd house should represent Mother. If we take > 4th house for mother, but it indicates the death of father. > It will be more scientific to take 3rd house for Mother. > Actual practicle results from chart considering 3rd house for > mother gives more closer results. 3rd lord in 4th house, unafflicted > gives more longevity to mother. 9th lord in 8th house with less > points, or with more points in 2nd house and afflicted by Saturn and > Mars, and lord of 8th house, reduces the life span of father. > 9th lord in 10th, un afflicted gives good longevity to > father. > 5th house in male chart indicates children, and 3rd from 5th > house is seventh, indicates wife of the native. So from 7th house > again 11th house indicates children, 7th house is mother here. So > when we take 3rd house for mother, 11th house which is Lagna, > indicates Native. > Study some charts, you will find results more nearer and in > line. > thanks > krushna > krushna To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2001 Report Share Posted July 16, 2001 Dear Swee Chan, Thanks for the reply. But Will you kindly explain more? what is nasta jatakam prsna? Even if I change asc. to Aquarius - at what degree and how to find it. Regards, JK Dasgupta - Swee Chan Monday, July 16, 2001 9:19 PM RE: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, For Nasta Jatakam Prsna the navamsa lagna of the prsna chart or its trines will indicate the birth ascendant. In this case, Aquarius is in a trine. Try and rectify your birth time to Aquarius ascendant and see how events fit during the times of malefic transits and bhuktis. Hope this helps. Best regards, Swee J.K.Dasgupta [dga]16 July 2001 06:01 Subject: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Respected Krushnaji, I also have the doubt that my birht time may not be correct. But how to rectify the time? Is it possible that local time has been used by any chance - by the hospital? It may might be that by 15.9.1947 stiil local time was being used by many in Calcutta! I think some thing may be explained if I consider local time - from the divisional charts. Well, if 3rd house is mother - then from which house siblings are to be seen? Can we understand nature of the father, mother and siblings from a chart? Regards. - krushanain Monday, July 16, 2001 12:56 AM Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, Today I have seen your chart, It does not match any of the instances of your life. As per your calculations Jupiter is in libra, which can not give happy marriage life. As per mine calculation it is in 11th house with Ketu. It can not be said as good for the native. It gives much obstacle and changes in life. Your birth time or date of birth may be wrong, and much difference may be there. So it is difficult to say any thing. krushna, "J.K.Dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:> Respected Krushnaji,> > Thanks for your reply. It is very logical and thought provoking. > > Well, my chart is with you. Can you tell something about my parents from my chart? Anyway, I cannot find out any thing as nothing matches whether I use any of the system. In fact the 1st method (4th for mother, and 10th for father.) works out a bit closer.> > regards,> > J.K. Dasgupta> > - > krushanain@h... > > Friday, July 13, 2001 1:55 AM> Re: Astakvarga system : Example Chart> > > Dear Dasgupta,> > There are different schools, in vedic astrology,denoting > house for mother and father. > 1) 4th for mother, and 10th for father.> 2) 4th for mother and 9th for father> 3) 3rd for mother and 9th for father> I go for the last one. > 5th house from lagna indicates children, and from 9th house > which indicates father fifth house is Lagna so native child of > father. Now wife is indicated from 7th house, so 7th house from 9th > is 3rd house so wife of father.> Now in our systen 12th house from lagna indicates karkatva > for Children ( 5th house). Now 12th from 9th is 8th house, which > indicates karkatva for Lagna. Now we also say that the house > indicates karkatva of any house also indicates end of the thing. > Here 8th house which is karkatva of Lagna or child of father, > (Native) also indicates Death of Native. > So 9th house from the house of children indicates father, so > ninth house from Lagna should indicate Father of the native. > From all these 3rd house should represent Mother. If we take > 4th house for mother, but it indicates the death of father.> It will be more scientific to take 3rd house for Mother. > Actual practicle results from chart considering 3rd house for > mother gives more closer results. 3rd lord in 4th house, unafflicted > gives more longevity to mother. 9th lord in 8th house with less > points, or with more points in 2nd house and afflicted by Saturn and > Mars, and lord of 8th house, reduces the life span of father. > 9th lord in 10th, un afflicted gives good longevity to > father. > 5th house in male chart indicates children, and 3rd from 5th > house is seventh, indicates wife of the native. So from 7th house > again 11th house indicates children, 7th house is mother here. So > when we take 3rd house for mother, 11th house which is Lagna, > indicates Native.> Study some charts, you will find results more nearer and in > line.> thanks> krushna> krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2001 Report Share Posted July 16, 2001 Dear Swee Chan, Many thanks. I shall try that way and see. I am also waiting for Krushnaji to teach rectification. Regards, J.K. dasgupta - Swee Chan Monday, July 16, 2001 10:24 PM RE: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, I do not have your birth data, but drew up a prsna chart after your query on your last mail. I presume your ascendant is a cuspal problem, so time may not be correct. The nasta Jatakam prsna is a snap shot of the prsna chart, and usually your ascendant shows up in a trine in D-9. Try and adjust your ascendant (using Krushnaji’s Ayanamsa ) to 9Aq09 or thereabouts and see how things fit in. It is believed that when the umbilical cord is severed from one’s mother, is the true time of birth. As this is not a list for such, I would rather wait for Krushnaji to teach us how to rectify with his AV system. Hope to have helped. Swee J.K.Dasgupta [dga]16 July 2001 19:01 Subject: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Swee Chan, Thanks for the reply. But Will you kindly explain more? what is nasta jatakam prsna? Even if I change asc. to Aquarius - at what degree and how to find it. Regards, JK Dasgupta - Swee Chan Monday, July 16, 2001 9:19 PM RE: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, For Nasta Jatakam Prsna the navamsa lagna of the prsna chart or its trines will indicate the birth ascendant. In this case, Aquarius is in a trine. Try and rectify your birth time to Aquarius ascendant and see how events fit during the times of malefic transits and bhuktis. Hope this helps. Best regards, Swee J.K.Dasgupta [dga]16 July 2001 06:01 Subject: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Respected Krushnaji, I also have the doubt that my birht time may not be correct. But how to rectify the time? Is it possible that local time has been used by any chance - by the hospital? It may might be that by 15.9.1947 stiil local time was being used by many in Calcutta! I think some thing may be explained if I consider local time - from the divisional charts. Well, if 3rd house is mother - then from which house siblings are to be seen? Can we understand nature of the father, mother and siblings from a chart? Regards. - krushanain Monday, July 16, 2001 12:56 AM Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, Today I have seen your chart, It does not match any of the instances of your life. As per your calculations Jupiter is in libra, which can not give happy marriage life. As per mine calculation it is in 11th house with Ketu. It can not be said as good for the native. It gives much obstacle and changes in life. Your birth time or date of birth may be wrong, and much difference may be there. So it is difficult to say any thing. krushna, "J.K.Dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:> Respected Krushnaji,> > Thanks for your reply. It is very logical and thought provoking. > > Well, my chart is with you. Can you tell something about my parents from my chart? Anyway, I cannot find out any thing as nothing matches whether I use any of the system. In fact the 1st method (4th for mother, and 10th for father.) works out a bit closer.> > regards,> > J.K. Dasgupta> > - > krushanain@h... > > Friday, July 13, 2001 1:55 AM> Re: Astakvarga system : Example Chart> > > Dear Dasgupta,> > There are different schools, in vedic astrology,denoting > house for mother and father. > 1) 4th for mother, and 10th for father.> 2) 4th for mother and 9th for father> 3) 3rd for mother and 9th for father> I go for the last one. > 5th house from lagna indicates children, and from 9th house > which indicates father fifth house is Lagna so native child of > father. Now wife is indicated from 7th house, so 7th house from 9th > is 3rd house so wife of father.> Now in our systen 12th house from lagna indicates karkatva > for Children ( 5th house). Now 12th from 9th is 8th house, which > indicates karkatva for Lagna. Now we also say that the house > indicates karkatva of any house also indicates end of the thing. > Here 8th house which is karkatva of Lagna or child of father, > (Native) also indicates Death of Native. > So 9th house from the house of children indicates father, so > ninth house from Lagna should indicate Father of the native. > From all these 3rd house should represent Mother. If we take > 4th house for mother, but it indicates the death of father.> It will be more scientific to take 3rd house for Mother. > Actual practicle results from chart considering 3rd house for > mother gives more closer results. 3rd lord in 4th house, unafflicted > gives more longevity to mother. 9th lord in 8th house with less > points, or with more points in 2nd house and afflicted by Saturn and > Mars, and lord of 8th house, reduces the life span of father. > 9th lord in 10th, un afflicted gives good longevity to > father. > 5th house in male chart indicates children, and 3rd from 5th > house is seventh, indicates wife of the native. So from 7th house > again 11th house indicates children, 7th house is mother here. So > when we take 3rd house for mother, 11th house which is Lagna, > indicates Native.> Study some charts, you will find results more nearer and in > line.> thanks> krushna> krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2001 Report Share Posted July 16, 2001 Dear JK, I need to correct my statement : The nasta Jataka prsna in D – 9 can also be seen in the lagna sometimes. Yours happen to be in the 9th house in a trine. Best regards, Swee -----Original Message----- J.K.Dasgupta [dga] 16 July 2001 20:13 To: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Swee Chan, Many thanks. I shall try that way and see. I am also waiting for Krushnaji to teach rectification. Regards, J.K. dasgupta ----- Original Message ----- Swee Chan Monday, July 16, 2001 10:24 PM RE: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, I do not have your birth data, but drew up a prsna chart after your query on your last mail. I presume your ascendant is a cuspal problem, so time may not be correct. The nasta Jatakam prsna is a snap shot of the prsna chart, and usually your ascendant shows up in a trine in D-9. Try and adjust your ascendant (using Krushnaji’s Ayanamsa ) to 9Aq09 or thereabouts and see how things fit in. It is believed that when the umbilical cord is severed from one’s mother, is the true time of birth. As this is not a list for such, I would rather wait for Krushnaji to teach us how to rectify with his AV system. Hope to have helped. Swee J.K.Dasgupta [dga] 16 July 2001 19:01 To: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Swee Chan, Thanks for the reply. But Will you kindly explain more? what is nasta jatakam prsna? Even if I change asc. to Aquarius - at what degree and how to find it. Regards, JK Dasgupta ----- Original Message ----- Swee Chan Monday, July 16, 2001 9:19 PM RE: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, For Nasta Jatakam Prsna the navamsa lagna of the prsna chart or its trines will indicate the birth ascendant. In this case, Aquarius is in a trine. Try and rectify your birth time to Aquarius ascendant and see how events fit during the times of malefic transits and bhuktis. Hope this helps. Best regards, Swee J.K.Dasgupta [dga] 16 July 2001 06:01 To: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Respected Krushnaji, I also have the doubt that my birht time may not be correct. But how to rectify the time? Is it possible that local time has been used by any chance - by the hospital? It may might be that by 15.9.1947 stiil local time was being used by many in Calcutta! I think some thing may be explained if I consider local time - from the divisional charts. Well, if 3rd house is mother - then from which house siblings are to be seen? Can we understand nature of the father, mother and siblings from a chart? Regards. ----- Original Message ----- krushanain Monday, July 16, 2001 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, Today I have seen your chart, It does not match any of the instances of your life. As per your calculations Jupiter is in libra, which can not give happy marriage life. As per mine calculation it is in 11th house with Ketu. It can not be said as good for the native. It gives much obstacle and changes in life. Your birth time or date of birth may be wrong, and much difference may be there. So it is difficult to say any thing. krushna , " J.K.Dasgupta " <dga@b...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thanks for your reply. It is very logical and thought provoking. > > Well, my chart is with you. Can you tell something about my parents from my chart? Anyway, I cannot find out any thing as nothing matches whether I use any of the system. In fact the 1st method (4th for mother, and 10th for father.) works out a bit closer. > > regards, > > J.K. Dasgupta > > - > krushanain@h... > > Friday, July 13, 2001 1:55 AM > Re: Astakvarga system : Example Chart > > > Dear Dasgupta, > > There are different schools, in vedic astrology,denoting > house for mother and father. > 1) 4th for mother, and 10th for father. > 2) 4th for mother and 9th for father > 3) 3rd for mother and 9th for father > I go for the last one. > 5th house from lagna indicates children, and from 9th house > which indicates father fifth house is Lagna so native child of > father. Now wife is indicated from 7th house, so 7th house from 9th > is 3rd house so wife of father. > Now in our systen 12th house from lagna indicates karkatva > for Children ( 5th house). Now 12th from 9th is 8th house, which > indicates karkatva for Lagna. Now we also say that the house > indicates karkatva of any house also indicates end of the thing. > Here 8th house which is karkatva of Lagna or child of father, > (Native) also indicates Death of Native. > So 9th house from the house of children indicates father, so > ninth house from Lagna should indicate Father of the native. > From all these 3rd house should represent Mother. If we take > 4th house for mother, but it indicates the death of father. > It will be more scientific to take 3rd house for Mother. > Actual practicle results from chart considering 3rd house for > mother gives more closer results. 3rd lord in 4th house, unafflicted > gives more longevity to mother. 9th lord in 8th house with less > points, or with more points in 2nd house and afflicted by Saturn and > Mars, and lord of 8th house, reduces the life span of father. > 9th lord in 10th, un afflicted gives good longevity to > father. > 5th house in male chart indicates children, and 3rd from 5th > house is seventh, indicates wife of the native. So from 7th house > again 11th house indicates children, 7th house is mother here. So > when we take 3rd house for mother, 11th house which is Lagna, > indicates Native. > Study some charts, you will find results more nearer and in > line. > thanks > krushna > krushna To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 Dear Swee, Dasgupta, and other list members, There are so many systems to rectify the birth time. Different persons advocate different system. System given by Swee is also one of them. Now I say from the chart each and every event of the life should match. Suppose we take 10 events of the life then if two or three events are matching, then it is of no use. If 8/9 events are matching then we should say we are closer to the accuracy. Date of marriage, status of marriage, any extra marrital relations, birth of child (for indian culture and for female chart), Some important events such as getting good job, some gain due to unearned money, accidents , any cronical disease must tally with the chart. The marriage in the period of planet having less points can be only in the case with couple with no child, or having dispute, and marrital relations ends up in diverse. Your case J.K.Dasgupta, no event of your life resembles with the chart. In my opinion there must be a vast difference, in the birth date even. In such case chart can be rectified with the help of chart of Mother and Father. With details the native is having resemblence with father or mother, bodily, by nature, and brilliency. At the time of your birth I think, Burma time or Culcatta time was enforce in that area. it is some 30 mins earlier. I am not sure about it. I have heard it from some old persons. How reliable the information is I cant say. If we have charts of Mother and father, then Slow moving planets makes similar combinations, and Moon and are in trine to the charts. krushna , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > Dear Dasgupta, > > I do not have your birth data, but drew up a prsna chart after your query on > your last mail. I presume your ascendant is a cuspal problem, so time may > not be correct. > The nasta Jatakam prsna is a snap shot of the prsna chart, and usually your > ascendant shows up in a trine in D-9. > Try and adjust your ascendant (using Krushnaji's Ayanamsa ) to 9Aq09 or > thereabouts and see how things fit in. It is believed that when the > umbilical cord is severed from one's mother, is the true time of birth. > As this is not a list for such, I would rather wait for Krushnaji to teach > us how to rectify with his AV system. > > Hope to have helped. > > Swee > > > J.K.Dasgupta [dga@b...] > 16 July 2001 19:01 > > Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta > J.K. > > Dear Swee Chan, > > Thanks for the reply. But Will you kindly explain more? what is nasta > jatakam prsna? Even if I change asc. to Aquarius - at what degree and how to > find it. > > Regards, > > JK Dasgupta > > > > - > Swee Chan <swee@c...> > > <> > Monday, July 16, 2001 9:19 PM > RE: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta > J.K. > > Dear Dasgupta, > > For Nasta Jatakam Prsna the navamsa lagna of the prsna chart or its trines > will indicate the birth ascendant. > In this case, Aquarius is in a trine. Try and rectify your birth time to > Aquarius ascendant and see how events fit during the times of malefic > transits and bhuktis. > > Hope this helps. > > Best regards, > > Swee > > > > J.K.Dasgupta [dga@b...] > 16 July 2001 06:01 > > Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta > J.K. > > Respected Krushnaji, > > I also have the doubt that my birht time may not be correct. But how to > rectify the time? Is it possible that local time has been used by any > chance - by the hospital? It may might be that by 15.9.1947 stiil local time > was being used by many in Calcutta! I think some thing may be explained if I > consider local time - from the divisional charts. > > Well, if 3rd house is mother - then from which house siblings are to be > seen? Can we understand nature of the father, mother and siblings from a > chart? > > Regards. > - > krushanain@h... <krushanain@h...> > > > > <> > Monday, July 16, 2001 12:56 AM > Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. > > Dear Dasgupta, > Today I have seen your chart, It does not match any of the > instances of your life. As per your calculations Jupiter is in libra, > which can not give happy marriage life. As per mine calculation it is > in 11th house with Ketu. It can not be said as good for the native. > It gives much obstacle and changes in life. > Your birth time or date of birth may be wrong, and much > difference may be there. So it is difficult to say any thing. > krushna > > , " J.K.Dasgupta " <dga@b...> wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > Thanks for your reply. It is very logical and thought provoking. > > > > Well, my chart is with you. Can you tell something about my parents > from my chart? Anyway, I cannot find out any thing as nothing matches > whether I use any of the system. In fact the 1st method (4th for > mother, and 10th for father.) works out a bit closer. > > > > regards, > > > > J.K. Dasgupta > > > > - > > krushanain@h... > > > > Friday, July 13, 2001 1:55 AM > > Re: Astakvarga system : > Example Chart > > > > > > Dear Dasgupta, > > > > There are different schools, in vedic astrology,denoting > > house for mother and father. > > 1) 4th for mother, and 10th for father. > > 2) 4th for mother and 9th for father > > 3) 3rd for mother and 9th for father > > I go for the last one. > > 5th house from lagna indicates children, and from 9th > house > > which indicates father fifth house is Lagna so native child of > > father. Now wife is indicated from 7th house, so 7th house from > 9th > > is 3rd house so wife of father. > > Now in our systen 12th house from lagna indicates > karkatva > > for Children ( 5th house). Now 12th from 9th is 8th house, which > > indicates karkatva for Lagna. Now we also say that the house > > indicates karkatva of any house also indicates end of the thing. > > Here 8th house which is karkatva of Lagna or child of father, > > (Native) also indicates Death of Native. > > So 9th house from the house of children indicates father, > so > > ninth house from Lagna should indicate Father of the native. > > From all these 3rd house should represent Mother. If we > take > > 4th house for mother, but it indicates the death of father. > > It will be more scientific to take 3rd house for Mother. > > Actual practicle results from chart considering 3rd house > for > > mother gives more closer results. 3rd lord in 4th house, > unafflicted > > gives more longevity to mother. 9th lord in 8th house with less > > points, or with more points in 2nd house and afflicted by Saturn > and > > Mars, and lord of 8th house, reduces the life span of father. > > 9th lord in 10th, un afflicted gives good longevity to > > father. > > 5th house in male chart indicates children, and 3rd from > 5th > > house is seventh, indicates wife of the native. So from 7th house > > again 11th house indicates children, 7th house is mother here. So > > when we take 3rd house for mother, 11th house which is Lagna, > > indicates Native. > > Study some charts, you will find results more nearer and > in > > line. > > thanks > > krushna > > krushna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, I do not have details of my mother, but I have my father's, if it helps - 12.09.1916 11.45 am Guwahati, India Lng: 91E45 Lat: 26N10 I do not know if the time is IST or local or Burma time. If anybody in the list can throw some light on which times were being followed in which areas of India at various periods after 1900 say - it would be a great information to everybody in the List, I feel. Regards, JK Dasgupta - krushanain Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:48 AM Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Swee, Dasgupta, and other list members, There are so many systems to rectify the birth time. ..............................marrital relations ends up in diverse. Your case J.K.Dasgupta, no event of your life resembles with the chart. In my opinion there must be a vast difference, in the birth date even. In such case chart can be rectified with the help of chart of Mother and Father. With details the native is having resemblence with father or mother, bodily, by nature, and brilliency. At the time of your birth I think, Burma time or Culcatta time was enforce in that area. it is some 30 mins earlier. I am not sure about it. I have heard it from some old persons. How reliable the information is I cant say. If we have charts of Mother and father, then Slow moving planets makes similar combinations, and Moon and are in trine to the charts. krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 Dear JK, I can help if you let me know where the nearest big town is to Guwahati. Perhaps even the old name. Swee -----Original Message----- J.K.Dasgupta [dga] 18 July 2001 06:29 To: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Respected Krushnaji, I do not have details of my mother, but I have my father's, if it helps - 12.09.1916 11.45 am Guwahati, India Lng: 91E45 Lat: 26N10 I do not know if the time is IST or local or Burma time. If anybody in the list can throw some light on which times were being followed in which areas of India at various periods after 1900 say - it would be a great information to everybody in the List, I feel. Regards, JK Dasgupta ----- Original Message ----- krushanain Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:48 AM Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Swee, Dasgupta, and other list members, There are so many systems to rectify the birth time. ...............................marrital relations ends up in diverse. Your case J.K.Dasgupta, no event of your life resembles with the chart. In my opinion there must be a vast difference, in the birth date even. In such case chart can be rectified with the help of chart of Mother and Father. With details the native is having resemblence with father or mother, bodily, by nature, and brilliency. At the time of your birth I think, Burma time or Culcatta time was enforce in that area. it is some 30 mins earlier. I am not sure about it. I have heard it from some old persons. How reliable the information is I cant say. If we have charts of Mother and father, then Slow moving planets makes similar combinations, and Moon and are in trine to the charts. krushna To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 Dear Chan, Guwahati is the capital of Asam, a state of India. It itself is a big, old and hystoric town JK - Swee Chan Wednesday, July 18, 2001 6:49 PM RE: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear JK, I can help if you let me know where the nearest big town is to Guwahati. Perhaps even the old name. Swee J.K.Dasgupta [dga]18 July 2001 06:29 Subject: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Respected Krushnaji, I do not have details of my mother, but I have my father's, if it helps - 12.09.1916 11.45 am Guwahati, India Lng: 91E45 Lat: 26N10 I do not know if the time is IST or local or Burma time. If anybody in the list can throw some light on which times were being followed in which areas of India at various periods after 1900 say - it would be a great information to everybody in the List, I feel. Regards, JK Dasgupta - krushanain Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:48 AM Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Swee, Dasgupta, and other list members, There are so many systems to rectify the birth time. ..............................marrital relations ends up in diverse. Your case J.K.Dasgupta, no event of your life resembles with the chart. In my opinion there must be a vast difference, in the birth date even. In such case chart can be rectified with the help of chart of Mother and Father. With details the native is having resemblence with father or mother, bodily, by nature, and brilliency. At the time of your birth I think, Burma time or Culcatta time was enforce in that area. it is some 30 mins earlier. I am not sure about it. I have heard it from some old persons. How reliable the information is I cant say. If we have charts of Mother and father, then Slow moving planets makes similar combinations, and Moon and are in trine to the charts. krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Dear JK, My ACS atlas does not record it, nor does www.astro.com . Shameful, really. The closest town I could find to that was Nongpoh which is 91E53, 25N54 Tz 6:00 for 12th Sept 1916. The Tz for that year was 6 . The rest I leave to you and Krushnaji to work out. Best regards, Swee -----Original Message----- J.K.Dasgupta [dga] 18 July 2001 20:27 To: Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Chan, Guwahati is the capital of Asam, a state of India. It itself is a big, old and hystoric town JK ----- Original Message ----- Swee Chan Wednesday, July 18, 2001 6:49 PM RE: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear JK, I can help if you let me know where the nearest big town is to Guwahati. Perhaps even the old name. Swee J.K.Dasgupta [dga] 18 July 2001 06:29 Re: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Respected Krushnaji, I do not have details of my mother, but I have my father's, if it helps - 12.09.1916 11.45 am Guwahati, India Lng: 91E45 Lat: 26N10 I do not know if the time is IST or local or Burma time. If anybody in the list can throw some light on which times were being followed in which areas of India at various periods after 1900 say - it would be a great information to everybody in the List, I feel. Regards, JK Dasgupta ----- Original Message ----- krushanain Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Swee, Dasgupta, and other list members, There are so many systems to rectify the birth time. ...............................marrital relations ends up in diverse. Your case J.K.Dasgupta, no event of your life resembles with the chart. In my opinion there must be a vast difference, in the birth date even. In such case chart can be rectified with the help of chart of Mother and Father. With details the native is having resemblence with father or mother, bodily, by nature, and brilliency. At the time of your birth I think, Burma time or Culcatta time was enforce in that area. it is some 30 mins earlier. I am not sure about it. I have heard it from some old persons. How reliable the information is I cant say. If we have charts of Mother and father, then Slow moving planets makes similar combinations, and Moon and are in trine to the charts. krushna To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. To from this group, send an email to: - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Dear Dasgupta, Compairing your chart with your father's chart, Your asendent must be Pisces. With this your marriage, Children, and other events are matching. Chart with pisces asendent is more in line with your father. 1) your father is having Scorpio asc. and in your chart it is in 9th place. 2) His Saturn is in Cancer and yours is also in same sign, and masking 9:5 yog ( in trine as per houses) 3) Your Moon is in )Pisces navamansha, and your father is having Moon in Pisces. 4) Your Jupiter and Mars are in 6:8 position, indicates no hormony with father. 5) Rahu and Ketu are in in the same house, if two charts aRE OVERLAPED. 6) Your sun and his sun are in same sign and are in 9:5 position if two charts are overlaped. 7) At the time of your birth it was Venus sub in Sun main, these are lords of 12th and 10th house, A and E for child birth, in your father's chart. 8)Mercury in it's own sign and in 9:5 poisition in two chart. 9) Mars is also in 9:5 poisition. 10) 10th lord in 9th ( 12th from 10th ) and 9th lord aspects 10th house. More changes in life. 11) Your faTHER'S Moon sign is your ascendent 12) 64th navamansha in both chart are in 1:7th to each other. 13) Burnt sign for both are Libra and Capricorn. 14) Mandi,Dhoom,Vyatipat,Paripata, Indra chap, and upketu are in 9:5 and Gulika in same house. 15) All above things indicates heridatery properties. Check the chart with pisces ascendent. More details on events I will do in two three days. B.Time I found more closer is 5:45 Pm. Now can you justify it? krushna , " J.K.Dasgupta " <dga@b...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > I do not have details of my mother, but I have my father's, if it helps - > > 12.09.1916 > 11.45 am > Guwahati, India > Lng: 91E45 > Lat: 26N10 > > I do not know if the time is IST or local or Burma time. If anybody in the list can throw some light on which times were being followed in which areas of India at various periods after 1900 say - it would be a great information to everybody in the List, I feel. > > Regards, > > JK Dasgupta > - > krushanain@h... > > Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:48 AM > Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. > > > Dear Swee, Dasgupta, and other list members, > > There are so many systems to rectify the birth time. > ..............................marrital relations ends up in diverse. > > Your case J.K.Dasgupta, no event of your life resembles > with the chart. In my opinion there must be a vast difference, in the > birth date even. > In such case chart can be rectified with the help of chart > of Mother and Father. With details the native is having resemblence > with father or mother, bodily, by nature, and brilliency. > At the time of your birth I think, Burma time or Culcatta > time was enforce in that area. it is some 30 mins earlier. I am not > sure about it. I have heard it from some old persons. How reliable > the information is I cant say. > If we have charts of Mother and father, then Slow moving > planets makes similar combinations, and Moon and are in trine to the > charts. > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, Thank you for the time allowed for me. I shall give you the following informations to match with the rectified chart and changed Vimsottory dasa. I am giving following informations if these are of any help, Daughter's birth details: 24.10.1977, 4:50 PM, Calcutta My appearance: 5'9", thin, complexion on the dark side, head full of hair with very few greying, squire face I have a sensitive skin pron to alergy and pron to cold & cough. I also have a very sensitive stomach. Nature: No complication and like discipline, adjustable. Interested in astrology & phylosophy. Proffession: Engineer (consultant) On my palm Jup, Sat & Mer mount is good Events at Dasa as per rectfd chart: Rah/Mer/ven - 11.2.74-marriage. Jup/Sat/ven- 21.10.76-first child was stillborn Jup/Sat/Rah- 24.10.77-daughter was born. Jup/Sat/Rah- 11.7.87 - foreign residency for one year (good financial position) Jup/Ven/Jup- 15.12.92- resigned govt job to start own engineering firm Jup/Mar/Ket- Jan'1997 to Nov'1997 - accute financial problem (no order in hand) Jup/Rah/Sat- 6.12.1997 - new order, financial relief Jup/Rah/Ven- Jan'1999 to 20.12.1999 - again accute financial problem. Debt Sat/Sat/Mer - 15.1.2000- some stability in finance due to an assignment Can you please advice how will be my Sat mahadasa. As per new rectfd chart I think Sat is not good for me. But Sat period there is gradual improvement in all respect. Is there any chance in flourishing in business? I am trying for one contract from a foreign party-which is almost through. If it is finally through my financial problem should be over. What is your openion about the same? Best regards, J.K. Dasgupta - krushanain Friday, July 20, 2001 2:00 AM Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K. Dear Dasgupta, Compairing your chart with your father's chart, Your asendent must be Pisces. With this your marriage, Children, and other events are matching. Chart with pisces asendent is more in line with your father. 1) your father is having Scorpio asc. and in your chart it is in 9th place. 2) His Saturn is in Cancer and yours is also in same sign, and masking 9:5 yog ( in trine as per houses)3) Your Moon is in )Pisces navamansha, and your father is having Moon in Pisces.4) Your Jupiter and Mars are in 6:8 position, indicates no hormony with father.5) Rahu and Ketu are in in the same house, if two charts aRE OVERLAPED. 6) Your sun and his sun are in same sign and are in 9:5 position if two charts are overlaped. 7) At the time of your birth it was Venus sub in Sun main, these are lords of 12th and 10th house, A and E for child birth, in your father's chart.8)Mercury in it's own sign and in 9:5 poisition in two chart.9) Mars is also in 9:5 poisition. 10) 10th lord in 9th ( 12th from 10th ) and 9th lord aspects 10th house. More changes in life. 11) Your faTHER'S Moon sign is your ascendent12) 64th navamansha in both chart are in 1:7th to each other.13) Burnt sign for both are Libra and Capricorn.14) Mandi,Dhoom,Vyatipat,Paripata, Indra chap, and upketu are in 9:5 and Gulika in same house. 15) All above things indicates heridatery properties. Check the chart with pisces ascendent. More details on events I will do in two three days. B.Time I found more closer is 5:45 Pm. Now can you justify it? krushna , "J.K.Dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:> Respected Krushnaji,> > I do not have details of my mother, but I have my father's, if it helps -> > 12.09.1916> 11.45 am> Guwahati, India> Lng: 91E45> Lat: 26N10> > I do not know if the time is IST or local or Burma time. If anybody in the list can throw some light on which times were being followed in which areas of India at various periods after 1900 say - it would be a great information to everybody in the List, I feel.> > Regards,> > JK Dasgupta> - > krushanain@h... > > Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:48 AM> Re: Astakvarga system : Dasgupta J.K.> > > Dear Swee, Dasgupta, and other list members,> > There are so many systems to rectify the birth time. > ..............................marrital relations ends up in diverse. > > Your case J.K.Dasgupta, no event of your life resembles > with the chart. In my opinion there must be a vast difference, in the > birth date even. > In such case chart can be rectified with the help of chart > of Mother and Father. With details the native is having resemblence > with father or mother, bodily, by nature, and brilliency. > At the time of your birth I think, Burma time or Culcatta > time was enforce in that area. it is some 30 mins earlier. I am not > sure about it. I have heard it from some old persons. How reliable > the information is I cant say. > If we have charts of Mother and father, then Slow moving > planets makes similar combinations, and Moon and are in trine to the > charts. > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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