Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Dear Krushna, Thank you very much for this analysis. I will take your word as final and inform my friend. I had worked out Nov to Jan 2001 on the basis of double transit phenomena of Saturn and Jupiter (used by K N Rao) but I was unable to pinpoint the exact date. Thank you once again. I am not yet able to understand fully your explanation as I am only on the early lessons of this technique but I hope I will be able to do so very soon. best regards Vikaas , krushanain@h... wrote: > Dear Margarita, Vikas, and other list members > I read all mails concerning to Marriage, Before going for > unmarrital state, you should see the combinations giving no > marriage. I think I might have given these in some lesson, If not, > here I am giving again. These are more importantat, Some other > secondary grade are also there, but those only supports this. > > For unmarrital state, 2/3 combinations out of following > should be indicated. > 1) for 2nd,7th,8th and 12th houses Minimum atleast 3 places should > have zero points due to Mars/Saturn. ( which is not here) > 2) Venus and Sun are more then 43 degrees apart, and less points due > to Venus for 1st and 7th house. (Here in 7th house Venus gives 5 > points, and in first house it have 3 points.) If such Venus have > sight of saturn then Gives more difficulty for marriage. > 3) In combination (1) if Moon is vanning then no marriage. > 4)Jupiter in Libra with more points, possibility of no marriage. If > such Jupiter is in 2nd or 7th house Very less possibility. > 5) Moon and Saturn situated in 7th house with less points, very late > of no marriage. > 6)Lord of 1st house and lord of Moon sign situated in 7th house with > less points and if lord of 7th house situated in 12th house with less > points, no marriage. > 7) Moon and venus situated in any one house, and if Saturn and Mars > in the 7th house from them with less points gives no marriage. > 8) If lord of 7th house is Mars or Saturn, and Moon is any place with > Saturn /Mars having less points. > > In the above chart none of these are presents, So this person > will marry. > Now As Saturn is aspecting 2nd lord and it self is lord of 7th > house, indicates delay. But it is moderated, Due to its situation in > the constellation of Jupiter. (here we dont consider the lord ship of > Jupiter as 6th lord) So marriage can be after 24.5 years. > Jupiter and Saturn can not give the marriage. Marrital relation > for this chart is indicated to be satisfactory ( from 1:7th rular > ship) Moon :Sa are 1:5, Sun :Sa are in same house Mars:Ve are in 9:5 > yogas. ) > Only unhappy marriages are performed in the sub of the planet > having less points, or in the sub of 6th lord. > The lord of D or E can give marriage even if they are with less > points. Here Mercury is with 17 points (max) and it is lord of E, so > it can give the marriage. Due to moderate delay marriage can be in > the 2nd (1/3rd) part of mercury sub. ( Being lord of house E, we do > not consider that it is in the constellation of Jupiter and situated > in the same navamansha with Jupiter.) > The date given by Prakash is correct, but the year 2002. > Venus lord of 2nd house is not having sight of Saturn so delay > causing due to Saturn is reduced. So marriage can be on the date in > this year 2001. > > krushna > > > , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> > wrote: > > Hello Prakash, > > Well I corrected the chart but I remain somewhat sceptical about > marriage. NK and FK are both aspected by Jupiter lord of the 6th > (12th from B for the 7th) > > Jupiter also aspects house A > > Saturn aspects house B and is with lord of A, so there surely is > delay. > > What strike me most is the 4/10 relationship of Jupiter and Saturn. > Saturn is in the 4th place with less points so Jupiter will act in a > very bad way as lord of the 12th for the 7th house. Because of the > delay I would also have choses Ketu sub but Sun and Venus have rather > low points. > > So I still think the native will not marry but I understand you > reasoning because according to the points Mercury can give results > but I would have chosen a sign or constellation of Saturn because he > becomes so powerfull. > > Well, I hope for him he can marry of course, time will tell, unless > Krushna can give us some light on this > > Best regards > > Margarita > > - > > varsh126@h... > > > > Friday, August 31, 2001 7:51 AM > > Re: probable marriage date > > > > > > Margaritaji, > > Namaste, > > Please check the calculations for the chart, Time given > is > > 07:30Am which gives Cancer asc. So Sixth lord is Jupiter. You > might > > have taken Gemini Asc so Mars became 6th lord. I recheck my > > calculations. > > Mercury became lord of house E, and also situated in > same > > house. So I came to date in Mercury sub, Transit of sun related > to > > Mars, and mercury. > > Regards > > Prakash > > > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> > > wrote: > > > Hello Vikaas charma, > > > I looked at the chart of your friend and this is what I found. > > > Up to this date the native is not married, so let's first look > is > > marriage is possible. > > > Saturn will cause delay because he aspects house C and its > lord. > > But beside of that Saturn is a benefic planet considered his > sight, > > so Saturn is not an harming influence. But look at Mars, lord of > the > > 6th, thus the 12th for B as the 7th. Jupiter (lord of B)is with > Mars > > and Mars aspects house A and its lord. Mars has 6 points, so he > is > > really hurting through his sight and this can not be considered > good > > for marriage. > > > Now let's look if there can be a " love marriage " or marriage > with > > somebody he knows. > > > There is only the trine between Venus and Jupiter (Rules given > by > > Krushna in his mail of the 25th of july 2001) and this certainly > is > > not enough to justify this kind of marriage so I suppose he > doesn't > > know anybody yet to marry with. > > > As a marriage is something serious that has to be prepared by > both > > families I think the date selected by Prakash is perhaps not > > realistic. Getting married is not like going to the supermarket > > although I agree that Mercury sub is the most favourable period > to be > > married. > > > He can also marry in a period with less points and have a > marriage > > that will not last. So we can look at the possibility of multiple > > marriages : > > > the 2nd house has malefic sight of Mars, a trik lord. This is > the > > only rule that I have recorded, so I don't think there will we > > multiple marriages either. > > > So in theory Prakash could be right but I have the feeling that > the > > chart is not very promising for marriage especially because of > the > > aspect of Mars. > > > It should also be noted that only Sun and Venus are neutral and > > Saturn benefic for their sight; other planets have either 5 or 6 > > points. So Jupiter and Mars will probably give results for the > 11th > > house but will harm the houses they aspect. > > > Looking at the 5th house(romance) it is badly harmed by aspect > and > > all planets except Saturn are very weak for the 12th house of bed > > comforts, an essential house when marriage is considered. > > > According to the points Mercury could give results, but by > looking > > at the chart as a whole I don't think the native will marry. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Dear Vikas, Go ahead with the results that will come true. I have no dout about it. You are welcome to study this system. krushna , sharma_vikaas@h... wrote: > Dear Krushna, > > Thank you very much for this analysis. I will take your word as final > and inform my friend. I had worked out Nov to Jan 2001 on the basis of > double transit phenomena of Saturn and Jupiter (used by K N Rao) but I > was unable to pinpoint the exact date. > Thank you once again. I am not yet able to understand fully your > explanation as I am only on the early lessons of this technique but I > hope I will be able to do so very soon. > > best regards > > Vikaas > , krushanain@h... wrote: > > Dear Margarita, Vikas, and other list members > > I read all mails concerning to Marriage, Before going for > > unmarrital state, you should see the combinations giving no > > marriage. I think I might have given these in some lesson, If not, > > here I am giving again. These are more importantat, Some other > > secondary grade are also there, but those only supports this. > > > > For unmarrital state, 2/3 combinations out of following > > should be indicated. > > 1) for 2nd,7th,8th and 12th houses Minimum atleast 3 places should > > have zero points due to Mars/Saturn. ( which is not here) > > 2) Venus and Sun are more then 43 degrees apart, and less points due > > to Venus for 1st and 7th house. (Here in 7th house Venus gives 5 > > points, and in first house it have 3 points.) If such Venus have > > sight of saturn then Gives more difficulty for marriage. > > 3) In combination (1) if Moon is vanning then no marriage. > > 4)Jupiter in Libra with more points, possibility of no marriage. If > > such Jupiter is in 2nd or 7th house Very less possibility. > > 5) Moon and Saturn situated in 7th house with less points, very late > > of no marriage. > > 6)Lord of 1st house and lord of Moon sign situated in 7th house with > > less points and if lord of 7th house situated in 12th house with > less > > points, no marriage. > > 7) Moon and venus situated in any one house, and if Saturn and Mars > > > in the 7th house from them with less points gives no marriage. > > 8) If lord of 7th house is Mars or Saturn, and Moon is any place > with > > Saturn /Mars having less points. > > > > In the above chart none of these are presents, So this person > > will marry. > > Now As Saturn is aspecting 2nd lord and it self is lord of 7th > > house, indicates delay. But it is moderated, Due to its situation in > > the constellation of Jupiter. (here we dont consider the lord ship > of > > Jupiter as 6th lord) So marriage can be after 24.5 years. > > Jupiter and Saturn can not give the marriage. Marrital relation > > > for this chart is indicated to be satisfactory ( from 1:7th rular > > ship) Moon :Sa are 1:5, Sun :Sa are in same house Mars:Ve are in 9:5 > > yogas. ) > > Only unhappy marriages are performed in the sub of the planet > > having less points, or in the sub of 6th lord. > > The lord of D or E can give marriage even if they are with > less > > points. Here Mercury is with 17 points (max) and it is lord of E, so > > it can give the marriage. Due to moderate delay marriage can be in > > the 2nd (1/3rd) part of mercury sub. ( Being lord of house E, we do > > not consider that it is in the constellation of Jupiter and situated > > in the same navamansha with Jupiter.) > > The date given by Prakash is correct, but the year 2002. > > Venus lord of 2nd house is not having sight of Saturn so delay > > causing due to Saturn is reduced. So marriage can be on the date in > > this year 2001. > > > > krushna > > > > > > , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> > > wrote: > > > Hello Prakash, > > > Well I corrected the chart but I remain somewhat sceptical about > > marriage. NK and FK are both aspected by Jupiter lord of the 6th > > (12th from B for the 7th) > > > Jupiter also aspects house A > > > Saturn aspects house B and is with lord of A, so there surely is > > delay. > > > What strike me most is the 4/10 relationship of Jupiter and > Saturn. > > Saturn is in the 4th place with less points so Jupiter will act in a > > very bad way as lord of the 12th for the 7th house. Because of the > > delay I would also have choses Ketu sub but Sun and Venus have > rather > > low points. > > > So I still think the native will not marry but I understand you > > reasoning because according to the points Mercury can give results > > but I would have chosen a sign or constellation of Saturn because he > > becomes so powerfull. > > > Well, I hope for him he can marry of course, time will tell, > unless > > Krushna can give us some light on this > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > - > > > varsh126@h... > > > > > > Friday, August 31, 2001 7:51 AM > > > Re: probable marriage date > > > > > > > > > Margaritaji, > > > Namaste, > > > Please check the calculations for the chart, Time > given > > is > > > 07:30Am which gives Cancer asc. So Sixth lord is Jupiter. You > > might > > > have taken Gemini Asc so Mars became 6th lord. I recheck my > > > calculations. > > > Mercury became lord of house E, and also situated in > > same > > > house. So I came to date in Mercury sub, Transit of sun related > > to > > > Mars, and mercury. > > > Regards > > > Prakash > > > > > > , " dmlettens " > > <dmlettens@s...> > > > wrote: > > > > Hello Vikaas charma, > > > > I looked at the chart of your friend and this is what I found. > > > > Up to this date the native is not married, so let's first look > > is > > > marriage is possible. > > > > Saturn will cause delay because he aspects house C and its > > lord. > > > But beside of that Saturn is a benefic planet considered his > > sight, > > > so Saturn is not an harming influence. But look at Mars, lord of > > the > > > 6th, thus the 12th for B as the 7th. Jupiter (lord of B)is with > > Mars > > > and Mars aspects house A and its lord. Mars has 6 points, so he > > is > > > really hurting through his sight and this can not be considered > > good > > > for marriage. > > > > Now let's look if there can be a " love marriage " or marriage > > with > > > somebody he knows. > > > > There is only the trine between Venus and Jupiter (Rules > given > > by > > > Krushna in his mail of the 25th of july 2001) and this certainly > > is > > > not enough to justify this kind of marriage so I suppose he > > doesn't > > > know anybody yet to marry with. > > > > As a marriage is something serious that has to be prepared by > > both > > > families I think the date selected by Prakash is perhaps not > > > realistic. Getting married is not like going to the supermarket > > > although I agree that Mercury sub is the most favourable period > > to be > > > married. > > > > He can also marry in a period with less points and have a > > marriage > > > that will not last. So we can look at the possibility of > multiple > > > marriages : > > > > the 2nd house has malefic sight of Mars, a trik lord. This is > > the > > > only rule that I have recorded, so I don't think there will we > > > multiple marriages either. > > > > So in theory Prakash could be right but I have the feeling > that > > the > > > chart is not very promising for marriage especially because of > > the > > > aspect of Mars. > > > > It should also be noted that only Sun and Venus are neutral > and > > > Saturn benefic for their sight; other planets have either 5 or 6 > > > points. So Jupiter and Mars will probably give results for the > > 11th > > > house but will harm the houses they aspect. > > > > Looking at the 5th house(romance) it is badly harmed by aspect > > and > > > all planets except Saturn are very weak for the 12th house of > bed > > > comforts, an essential house when marriage is considered. > > > > According to the points Mercury could give results, but by > > looking > > > at the chart as a whole I don't think the native will marry. > > > > Best regards > > > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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