8th and 12th lords

October 13, 2001

Respected Krushanji,

I think in all this discussion about samdharmis, there is one point which

was missed in your clarifications.

You have always mentioned the problems related with the 6th lord of a chart.

What about the 8th and 12th lords which are considered more malignant in

Vedic Astrology. Is any special consideration to be given to them?

Kind regards

Sanjay

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October 13, 2001

Dear Sanjay,

Only sixth lord, is doing some culprit in the result.

Regarding 8th lord and 12th lord, my experience is different. Which

any body can check.

12th lord enhances the results of the house it is situated.

If it is with more points, it gives much better result. Even if it is

with less points, it gives good result. Suppose if the 12th lord is

situated in 4th house, with less points, Person do not have his own

house, but he gets all the happiness from family. He may live in a

rented house, or there may be condition, that he may not be able to

sell the same, any time at his will. If with more points he can have

his own house.

Similarly if any planet is situated in 12th house, it will

give much better result in it's sub.

Similar is the case, with 8th lord. It may give better

result for the house it is situated, with less efforts.

These things are to be experienced form many charts. I

agree, in the text, these houses are not considered as good houses,

and there lord is also treated in similar way. Any planet in 8th with

more points, can not give marriage in it's sub. But if any planet is

situated in 12th it gives marriage or some times extra marital

relation, or friendship with opposite sex.

I would like to request you, to check these results, every

chart is having 8th and 12th lord, and must be situated in some

house. If in any case if the results are spoiled may not be due to

these planets, there must be some other reason.

If any planet gets more points in 8th house, may experience

health problem, or death, or similar situation, in the sub of that

planet. Here it may not be the 8th lord, it may be any planet.

krushna

, " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> Respected Krushanji,

>

> I think in all this discussion about samdharmis, there is one point

which

> was missed in your clarifications.

>

> You have always mentioned the problems related with the 6th lord of

a chart.

> What about the 8th and 12th lords which are considered more

malignant in

> Vedic Astrology. Is any special consideration to be given to them?

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

>

> _______

>

> Get your free @ address at

October 13, 2001

Hello krushana,

This is a nice explanation.. but i have a doubt. If

the 8 lord is placed in 6 house with the 6th house

lord, how will it react? will the bad effect be more?

Gowri

--- krushanain wrote:

> Dear Sanjay,

> Only sixth lord, is doing some culprit in the

> result.

> Regarding 8th lord and 12th lord, my experience is

> different. Which

> any body can check.

> 12th lord enhances the results of the house

> it is situated.

> If it is with more points, it gives much better

> result. Even if it is

> with less points, it gives good result. Suppose if

> the 12th lord is

> situated in 4th house, with less points, Person do

> not have his own

> house, but he gets all the happiness from family. He

> may live in a

> rented house, or there may be condition, that he may

> not be able to

> sell the same, any time at his will. If with more

> points he can have

> his own house.

> Similarly if any planet is situated in 12th

> house, it will

> give much better result in it's sub.

> Similar is the case, with 8th lord. It may

> give better

> result for the house it is situated, with less

> efforts.

> These things are to be experienced form

> many charts. I

> agree, in the text, these houses are not considered

> as good houses,

> and there lord is also treated in similar way. Any

> planet in 8th with

> more points, can not give marriage in it's sub. But

> if any planet is

> situated in 12th it gives marriage or some times

> extra marital

> relation, or friendship with opposite sex.

> I would like to request you, to check

> these results, every

> chart is having 8th and 12th lord, and must be

> situated in some

> house. If in any case if the results are spoiled may

> not be due to

> these planets, there must be some other reason.

> If any planet gets more points in 8th

> house, may experience

> health problem, or death, or similar situation, in

> the sub of that

> planet. Here it may not be the 8th lord, it may be

> any planet.

> krushna

>

> , " Sanjay

> Jaggia "

> <sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> > Respected Krushanji,

> >

> > I think in all this discussion about samdharmis,

> there is one point

> which

> > was missed in your clarifications.

> >

> > You have always mentioned the problems related

> with the 6th lord of

> a chart.

> > What about the 8th and 12th lords which are

> considered more

> malignant in

> > Vedic Astrology. Is any special consideration to

> be given to them?

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Sanjay

> >

>

_______

> >

> > Get your free @ address at

>

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October 14, 2001

Dear Govri,

If 8th lord is situated in sixth house with 6th

lord, it will make 8th lord samdharmi to sixth lord if

with more points, It will be helpful in development of

the individuality of the native. No bad result only by

situation in 6th house. It is a partial of Viprit Raj

Yog. (Planets in 6th aspects 12th house).

Only for marriage we consider if the 7th lord is

situated in 6th house, in that case we take 6th house

as 12th from B.

krushna

--- Gowri <rgowri2000 wrote:

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Hello krushana,

This is a nice explanation.. but i have a doubt.

If

the 8 lord is placed in 6 house with the 6th house

lord, how will it react? will the bad effect be

more?

Gowri

--- krushanain wrote:

& gt; Dear Sanjay,

& gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; Only

sixth lord, is doing some culprit in the

& gt; result.

& gt; Regarding 8th lord and 12th lord, my experience

is

& gt; different. Which

& gt; any body can check.

& gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

12th lord enhances the results of the house

& gt; it is situated.

& gt; If it is with more points, it gives much

better

& gt; result. Even if it is

& gt; with less points, it gives good result. Suppose

if

& gt; the 12th lord is

& gt; situated in 4th house, with less points, Person

do

& gt; not have his own

& gt; house, but he gets all the happiness from family.

He

& gt; may live in a

& gt; rented house, or there may be condition, that he

may

& gt; not be able to

& gt; sell the same, any time at his will. If with

more

& gt; points he can have

& gt; his own house.

& gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

Similarly if any planet is situated in 12th

& gt; house, it will

& gt; give much better result in it's sub.

& gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

Similar is the case, with 8th lord. It may

& gt; give better

& gt; result for the house it is situated, with

less

& gt; efforts.

& gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

These things are to be experienced form

& gt; many charts. I

& gt; agree, in the text, these houses are not

considered

& gt; as good houses,

& gt; and there lord is also treated in similar way.

Any

& gt; planet in 8th with

& gt; more points, can not give marriage in it's sub.

But

& gt; if any planet is

& gt; situated in 12th it gives marriage or some

times

& gt; extra marital

& gt; relation, or friendship with opposite sex.

& gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

I would like to request you, to check

& gt; these results, every

& gt; chart is having 8th and 12th lord, and must

be

& gt; situated in some

& gt; house. If in any case if the results are spoiled

may

& gt; not be due to

& gt; these planets, there must be some other reason.

& gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

If any planet gets more points in 8th

& gt; house, may experience

& gt; health problem, or death, or similar situation,

in

& gt; the sub of that

& gt; planet. Here it may not be the 8th lord, it may

be

& gt; any planet.

& gt; krushna & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

& gt;

& gt; ,

& quot;Sanjay

& gt; Jaggia & quot;

& gt; & lt;sanjaygg2001 & gt; wrote:

& gt; & gt; Respected Krushanji,

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; I think in all this discussion about

samdharmis,

& gt; there is one point

& gt; which

& gt; & gt; was missed in your clarifications.

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; You have always mentioned the problems

related

& gt; with the 6th lord of

& gt; a chart.

& gt; & gt; What about the 8th and 12th lords which

are

& gt; considered more

& gt; malignant in

& gt; & gt; Vedic Astrology. Is any special

consideration to

& gt; be given to them?

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; Kind regards

& gt; & gt; Sanjay

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt;

& gt;

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& gt; & gt;

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October 14, 2001

Hello Gwori,

The lords of dustanas in other dustanas gives rise to Vipareeta Raja

yoga (VRY). For this yoga is be fullfilled, the lords involved must

be weak in either Rasi or Navamsa. This yoga is also formed when

there are malefics in the 3rd and 6th from the AL. Remember that with

this yoga the native will rise in life after the downfall of his

enemies. Also remember to understand the yogada;s for a horoscope to

see when the effects of VRY will apply.

Regards

Narahari

, Gowri <rgowri2000> wrote:

> Hello krushana,

> This is a nice explanation.. but i have a doubt. If

> the 8 lord is placed in 6 house with the 6th house

> lord, how will it react? will the bad effect be more?

> Gowri

> --- krushanain@h... wrote:

> > Dear Sanjay,

> > Only sixth lord, is doing some culprit in the

> > result.

> > Regarding 8th lord and 12th lord, my experience is

> > different. Which

> > any body can check.

> > 12th lord enhances the results of the house

> > it is situated.

> > If it is with more points, it gives much better

> > result. Even if it is

> > with less points, it gives good result. Suppose if

> > the 12th lord is

> > situated in 4th house, with less points, Person do

> > not have his own

> > house, but he gets all the happiness from family. He

> > may live in a

> > rented house, or there may be condition, that he may

> > not be able to

> > sell the same, any time at his will. If with more

> > points he can have

> > his own house.

> > Similarly if any planet is situated in 12th

> > house, it will

> > give much better result in it's sub.

> > Similar is the case, with 8th lord. It may

> > give better

> > result for the house it is situated, with less

> > efforts.

> > These things are to be experienced form

> > many charts. I

> > agree, in the text, these houses are not considered

> > as good houses,

> > and there lord is also treated in similar way. Any

> > planet in 8th with

> > more points, can not give marriage in it's sub. But

> > if any planet is

> > situated in 12th it gives marriage or some times

> > extra marital

> > relation, or friendship with opposite sex.

> > I would like to request you, to check

> > these results, every

> > chart is having 8th and 12th lord, and must be

> > situated in some

> > house. If in any case if the results are spoiled may

> > not be due to

> > these planets, there must be some other reason.

> > If any planet gets more points in 8th

> > house, may experience

> > health problem, or death, or similar situation, in

> > the sub of that

> > planet. Here it may not be the 8th lord, it may be

> > any planet.

> > krushna

> >

> > , " Sanjay

> > Jaggia "

> > <sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> > > Respected Krushanji,

> > >

> > > I think in all this discussion about samdharmis,

> > there is one point

> > which

> > > was missed in your clarifications.

> > >

> > > You have always mentioned the problems related

> > with the 6th lord of

> > a chart.

> > > What about the 8th and 12th lords which are

> > considered more

> > malignant in

> > > Vedic Astrology. Is any special consideration to

> > be given to them?

> > >

> > > Kind regards

> > > Sanjay

> > >

> >

> _______

> > >

> > > Get your free @ address at

> >

>

> Make a great connection at Personals.

> http://personals.

October 15, 2001

Respected Krushnaji,

Thank you. This was a very revealing clarification. I do not think I would

take any principle of Vedic astrology for granted any more!

In Vedic, we say that the lords of 2nd and 7th are not good because these

are Marak sthans. However, in your lessons, you have spoken mainly about the

2nd lord. Any comments about the 7th lord?

Kind regards

Sanjay

Another question. 2nd and

-

<krushanain

Sunday, October 14, 2001 2:40 AM

Re: 8th and 12th lords

Dear Sanjay,

Only sixth lord, is doing some culprit in the result.

Regarding 8th lord and 12th lord, my experience is different. Which

any body can check.

12th lord enhances the results of the house it is situated.

If it is with more points, it gives much better result. Even if it is

with less points, it gives good result. Suppose if the 12th lord is

situated in 4th house, with less points, Person do not have his own

house, but he gets all the happiness from family. He may live in a

rented house, or there may be condition, that he may not be able to

sell the same, any time at his will. If with more points he can have

his own house.

Similarly if any planet is situated in 12th house, it will

give much better result in it's sub.

Similar is the case, with 8th lord. It may give better

result for the house it is situated, with less efforts.

These things are to be experienced form many charts. I

agree, in the text, these houses are not considered as good houses,

and there lord is also treated in similar way. Any planet in 8th with

more points, can not give marriage in it's sub. But if any planet is

situated in 12th it gives marriage or some times extra marital

relation, or friendship with opposite sex.

I would like to request you, to check these results, every

chart is having 8th and 12th lord, and must be situated in some

house. If in any case if the results are spoiled may not be due to

these planets, there must be some other reason.

If any planet gets more points in 8th house, may experience

health problem, or death, or similar situation, in the sub of that

planet. Here it may not be the 8th lord, it may be any planet.

krushna

, " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> Respected Krushanji,

>

> I think in all this discussion about samdharmis, there is one point

which

> was missed in your clarifications.

>

> You have always mentioned the problems related with the 6th lord of

a chart.

> What about the 8th and 12th lords which are considered more

malignant in

> Vedic Astrology. Is any special consideration to be given to them?

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

>

> _______

>

> Get your free @ address at

_______

Get your free @ address at

October 15, 2001

Dear Sanjay,

The Sub period of 2nd lord is always trouble some. It creats

worries. For 7th lord it is not experienced. Only for Libra and

Arises lagna, when 2nd and 7th lord is same. Yes, For Accidents we

refer 7th house and the planets in 7th house. It might have been

called with that reference. It may be with the concept that any

planet with more point, gives the result of 8th house. So if any

planet in 7th with more points may give result for 2nd house ( which

is 8th from 7th). Atleast I have not pointed out any such result.

krushna

, " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> Thank you. This was a very revealing clarification. I do not think

I would

> take any principle of Vedic astrology for granted any more!

>

> In Vedic, we say that the lords of 2nd and 7th are not good because

these

> are Marak sthans. However, in your lessons, you have spoken mainly

about the

> 2nd lord. Any comments about the 7th lord?

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

>

> Another question. 2nd and

> -

> <krushanain@h...>

>

> Sunday, October 14, 2001 2:40 AM

> Re: 8th and 12th lords

>

> Dear Sanjay,

> Only sixth lord, is doing some culprit in the result.

> Regarding 8th lord and 12th lord, my experience is different. Which

> any body can check.

> 12th lord enhances the results of the house it is situated.

> If it is with more points, it gives much better result. Even if it

is

> with less points, it gives good result. Suppose if the 12th lord is

> situated in 4th house, with less points, Person do not have his own

> house, but he gets all the happiness from family. He may live in a

> rented house, or there may be condition, that he may not be able to

> sell the same, any time at his will. If with more points he can have

> his own house.

> Similarly if any planet is situated in 12th house, it will

> give much better result in it's sub.

> Similar is the case, with 8th lord. It may give better

> result for the house it is situated, with less efforts.

> These things are to be experienced form many charts. I

> agree, in the text, these houses are not considered as good houses,

> and there lord is also treated in similar way. Any planet in 8th

with

> more points, can not give marriage in it's sub. But if any planet is

> situated in 12th it gives marriage or some times extra marital

> relation, or friendship with opposite sex.

> I would like to request you, to check these results, every

> chart is having 8th and 12th lord, and must be situated in some

> house. If in any case if the results are spoiled may not be due to

> these planets, there must be some other reason.

> If any planet gets more points in 8th house, may

experience

> health problem, or death, or similar situation, in the sub of that

> planet. Here it may not be the 8th lord, it may be any planet.

> krushna

>

> , " Sanjay Jaggia "

> <sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> > Respected Krushanji,

> >

> > I think in all this discussion about samdharmis, there is one

point

> which

> > was missed in your clarifications.

> >

> > You have always mentioned the problems related with the 6th lord

of

> a chart.

> > What about the 8th and 12th lords which are considered more

> malignant in

> > Vedic Astrology. Is any special consideration to be given to them?

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Sanjay

> >

> > _______

> >

> > Get your free @ address at

>

> _______

>

> Get your free @ address at

October 16, 2001

Respected Krushnaji,

I see the point you are making. 7th house is E for the 2nd house as B. So

any planet in the 7th with more points would be eager to give the results

for the 2nd house lord as it becomes samdharmi to it.

Coming back to the 8th and 12th lords. We find that these are actually

better than other planets. Is this what you are saying?

Kind regards

Sanjay

-

<krushanain

Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:23 AM