your wife's chart

[Guest guest]

Hello Peter,

Before going into events, that happend in your wife's life and mostly are

" medical " , I think it would be good to make an evaluation of how the chart

looks for matters related to health.

Looking at the first as B we see that the lord of B is in the 12th together

with Mercury, lord of the 6th. I think this can indicate chronic

healthproblems. Saturn is also the lord of the 2nd, a planet bringing

worries and healthproblems. So I suppose there must be a chronic condition.

Mercury and Saturn are also samdharmi in Rashi as well as navamsha, so these

two bad ones will work for each other.Staying with the traditional meanings

of Mercury and Saturn, I should opt for chronic problems like asthma, lung

problems or intestinal problems. I think on a mental level they could be

related to an anxious nature, an internal stiffness that create tension.

Perhaps she had a puritan education and is still imposing a lot of

restrictions on herself? Nervous problems could therefore also be indicated.

The Sun, who is lord of A for the 1st is a very weak planet in the

worksheet; he only gives good results for the 10th. I think she could also

have heart problems, but I'm not too sure about that.

A,B, and C houses have rather low points

Looking at the 3th as B we see houses A,B and C together have good points,

especially the 10th which is house A, so I suppose she has a lot of courage

to face adversities and has a capacity to figt. Jupiter has high points for

all houses and is lord of B and D; he is helpful and not spoiling through

aspect even if his position in the 6th is not so happy.

For the 7th house as B we find Saturn playing the role of lord A. We have

seen that he has a bad reputation so he can be responsible, with Mercury for

accidents or operations.

Taking all this together I think your wife has a difficult life but she has

a tremedous courage to face adversities.

I will stop here and I'm looking foreward to some feed back before

" guessing " events.

I remember having your chart last year, but the chart itself and the mails

connected to it were partly eaten by a virus and further erased by the

re-formatting of my hard disk.

Best regards

Margarita

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

Just a small ammount of feedback. My wife, May, did have chronic health

problems starting as a very small child at school. She was sent to a special

school where she recieved " sunlight " treatment for lung problems. She also

was unable to eat well resulting in permanent underweight. This, however,

was not the major medical problems in her life which occurred after our

marriage.

She did have nervous problems which she mainly overcame by her 20s but she

was still extremely shy until our marriage (no-one is allowed to be shy in

my family). She did not have a puritan up bringing but it is true that she

has great courage - exceptional in fact.

 

I think I will leave it at that for now and let's see what you can make of

from there.

 

Peter

Namaste

[Guest guest]

Hello Peter,

Thank you for the feed back on your wife's chart. I will try to find out what her actual problem is and I suppose that it has something to do with her former ailments and her constitution.

I just focused on Mercury as lord of the 6th, his association with Saturn and his aspect from Jupiter in houses concerned. Mercury has to do with "communication" which means "exchange". Now exchange (in the body)is done in the lungs and in the intestines. Exchange is also with environment so this could explain her "shyness". This is interesting.

I will try to "guess" following events that surely happend in her life. This is of course the hardest part !

1.Moving :She moved from her birth country because she was born in England and is

now living in Australia(I saw this in your email address)

2. Marriage and eventually children

3. death of her parents.(father and mother) If she was born in 1930, her parents have probably passed away.

1.Moving.

Home is the 4th so loss of home could be the 11th (8th from 4)but also the 3th as 12th from the 4th. I think this could have happend in Rahu/Jupiter (1938-1939) For the 3th as B Rahu is in B and Jupiter is lord of B and D. For the 11th as B, Jupiter is lord of C in A.

Jupiter is the strongest significator in her chart.

2.Marriage.

I suppose we can see her marriage along the "traditional" lines and thus look at the 7th as B.

There seems to be no delay in marriage, so she can have married early. My guess is that she married in Rahu/Mars. Mars is lord of C and D and has high points in the worksheet. Taking the 5th as B, Mars can act as samdharmi for Saturn, lord of A and D. For the 11th, Mars is lord of B and E. So he can give results for these houses. I think. So marriage in Rahu/Mars (1952)

 

3. children.

Well, I'll wait untill I know the correct date of marriage before starting with that.

 

4.death of mother

mother is seen as 3th house, so death of the mother becomes 10th house.

Venus FK is most indicated but Saturn can come foreward in his dasha, he is also lord of C. In Saturn Dasha, Moon is the first bukthi that can give results, so I suppose her mother can have died in Saturn/Moon (1980-81)

 

5. death of father.

By taking the 4th as B we see that Mars and the Sun become strong significators

Mars dasha was at birth but Mars is samdharmi to Saturn so the event could happen in Saturn dasha. Saturn and Mercury cannot give bad results for the 9th of the father and Sun, Moon, Mars and Venus have low points. The first to give results in Saturn dasha is Ketu who can represent Mars, lord A and B and Mercury, lord E. So death of father probably in Saturn/Ketu(1975-76).

 

As I'm not sure at all I stop here. Probably my reasoning has a few flaws or perhaps there are other periods that could come foreward. Predicting is not easy and I could be completely off the mark. If I'm wrong don't tell me the dates of the happenings, I want to have another try before I give up.

Thanks for the chart and best regards

Margarita

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

Peter [petermay]Sunday, November 04, 2001 9:50 AM Subject: Re: your wife's chartDear Margarita,Just a small ammount of feedback. My wife, May, did have chronic healthproblems starting as a very small child at school. She was sent to a specialschool where she recieved "sunlight" treatment for lung problems. She alsowas unable to eat well resulting in permanent underweight. This, however,was not the major medical problems in her life which occurred after ourmarriage.She did have nervous problems which she mainly overcame by her 20s but shewas still extremely shy until our marriage (no-one is allowed to be shy inmy family). She did not have a puritan up bringing but it is true that shehas great courage - exceptional in fact.I think I will leave it at that for now and let's see what you can make offrom there.PeterNamaste

[Guest guest]

ÿþ

[Guest guest]

Hello Peter, I hope you get your own messages back so you can check how they look !!

Probably more luck next time ??

Best regards

Margarita

P.S. no other enthousiasts to look at this chart ??? It would be interesting to share your meanings.

 

Peter [petermay]Monday, November 05, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: Re: your wife's chartÿþ<

[Guest guest]

, " Peter " <petermay@p...> wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

> Before I give you feedback on mywife's chart I have a couple of

queries on yourfirst analysis. I have copied your letter below and

written my queries in block.

>

> Hello Peter,

> Before going into events, that happend in your wife's life and

mostly are

> " medical " , I think it would be good to make an evaluation of how

the chart

> looks for matters related to health.

> Looking at the first as B we see that the lord of B is in the 12th

together

> with Mercury, lord of the 6th. I think this can indicate chronic

> healthproblems. Saturn is also the lord of the 2nd, a planet

bringing

> worries and healthproblems. So I suppose there must be a chronic

condition.

> Mercury and Saturn are also samdharmi in Rashi as well as navamsha,

so these

> HOW DO NERCURY AND SATURN BECOME SAMDHARMI IN THE NAVAMSA?. I KNOW

THEY ARE IN A 4:10 RELATIONSHIP BUT THIS IS NOT SMDHARMI IF THE

PLANET IN 10 HAS MORE POINT THAN THE PLANET IN 4 WHICH IS THE CASE

HERE.

> two bad ones will work for each other.Staying with the traditional

meanings

> of Mercury and Saturn, I should opt for chronic problems like

asthma, lung

> problems or intestinal problems. INTESTINAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE

MERCURY IS LORD OF 6TH?

> I think on a mental level they could be

> related to an anxious nature, an internal stiffness that create

tension.

> Perhaps she had a puritan education and is still imposing a lot of

> restrictions on herself? Nervous problems could therefore also be

indicated.

> The Sun, who is lord of A for the 1st is a very weak planet in the

> worksheet; he only gives good results for the 10th. I think she

could also

> have heart problems, but I'm not too sure about that.

> A,B, and C houses have rather low points A AND B HAVE LOW POINTS C

HAS 30 POINTS!

> Looking at the 3th as B we see houses A,B and C together have good

points, A=27, B=24, C=30 - B IS NOT GOOD POINTS?

> especially the 10th which is house A, so I suppose she has a lot of

courage

> to face adversities and has a capacity to figt. Jupiter has high

points for

> all houses and is lord of B and D; he is helpful and not spoiling

through

> aspect even if his position in the 6th is not so happy.

> For the 7th house as B we find Saturn playing the role of lord A.

We have

> seen that he has a bad reputation so he can be responsible, with

Mercury for

> accidents or operations. WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM I HAVEN'T HEARD

OF IT BEFORE. (PROBABLY JUST MY IGNORANCE)

> Taking all this together I think your wife has a difficult life but

she has

> a tremedous courage to face adversities.

> I will stop here and I'm looking foreward to some feed back before

> " guessing " events.

> I remember having your chart last year, but the chart itself and

the mails

> connected to it were partly eaten by a virus and further erased by

the

> re-formatting of my hard disk.

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

>

> Now for your latest letter. ( By the way your first analyss was

very good and close to the truth in most cases

>

>

> Hello Peter,

> Thank you for the feed back on your wife's chart. I will try to

find out what her actual problem is and I suppose that it has

something to do with her former ailments and her constitution.

> I just focused on Mercury as lord of the 6th, his association with

Saturn and his aspect from Jupiter in houses concerned. Mercury has

to do with " communication " which means " exchange " . Now exchange (in

the body)is done in the lungs and in the intestines. Exchange is also

with environment so this could explain her " shyness " . This is

interesting.

> I will try to " guess " following events that surely happend in her

life. This is of course the hardest part !

> 1.Moving :She moved from her birth country because she was born in

England and is

> now living in Australia(I saw this in your email address)

> 2. Marriage and eventually children

> 3. death of her parents.(father and mother) If she was born in

1930, her parents have probably passed away.

> 1.Moving.

> Home is the 4th so loss of home could be the 11th (8th from 4)but

also the 3th as 12th from the 4th. I think this could have happend in

Rahu/Jupiter (1938-1939) For the 3th as B Rahu is in B and Jupiter

is lord of B and D. For the 11th as B, Jupiter is lord of C in A.

> Jupiter is the strongest significator in her chart.

> WAY OUT HERE TRY MUCH LATER

> 2.Marriage.

> I suppose we can see her marriage along the " traditional " lines and

thus look at the 7th as B.

> There seems to be no delay in marriage, so she can have married

early. My guess is that she married in Rahu/Mars. Mars is lord of C

and D and has high points in the worksheet. Taking the 5th as B, Mars

can act as samdharmi for Saturn, lord of A and D. For the 11th, Mars

is lord of B and E. So he can give results for these houses. I think.

So marriage in Rahu/Mars (1952)

> CORRECT PERIOD HERE - CAN YOU NARROW IT DOWN FURTHER

> 3. children.

> Well, I'll wait untill I know the correct date of marriage before

starting with that.

>

> 4.death of mother

> mother is seen as 3th house, so death of the mother becomes 10th

house.

> Venus FK is most indicated but Saturn can come foreward in his

dasha, he is also lord of C. In Saturn Dasha, Moon is the first

bukthi that can give results, so I suppose her mother can have died

in Saturn/Moon (1980-81)

> I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE RECENTLY FORM KRUSHNA WHERE HE SAID THE

DEATH OF SOMEONE WAS THE 3RD FROM THE HOUSE INDICATING THE PERSON. SO

DEATH OF FATHER WOULD BE SUB PERIOD OF LORD OF 3RD FROM 9TH. DEATH OF

MOTHER WOULD BE SUB PERIOD OF LORD OF 3RD FROM 3RD. IN ANY CASE BOTH

THESE DEATHS QUITE A LONG WAY OUT - THEY WERE BOTH MUCH EARLIER.

> 5. death of father.

> By taking the 4th as B we see that Mars and the Sun become strong

significators

> Mars dasha was at birth but Mars is samdharmi to Saturn so the

event could happen in Saturn dasha. Saturn and Mercury cannot give

bad results for the 9th of the father and Sun, Moon, Mars and Venus

have low points. The first to give results in Saturn dasha is Ketu

who can represent Mars, lord A and B and Mercury, lord E. So death of

father probably in Saturn/Ketu(1975-76).

>

> As I'm not sure at all I stop here. Probably my reasoning has a few

flaws or perhaps there are other periods that could come foreward.

Predicting is not easy and I could be completely off the mark. If I'm

wrong don't tell me the dates of the happenings, I want to have

another try before I give up.

> Thanks for the chart and best regards

> Margarita

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita, Peterji, and other list members,

I think Peter's messages are not reaching, so I have

redirected the same, It is apperearing, in rediredted mail. Similarly

I have redirected his earlier messages.

krushna

 

, " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Hello Peter, I hope you get your own messages back so you can check

how they

> look !!

> Probably more luck next time ??

> Best regards

> Margarita

> P.S. no other enthousiasts to look at this chart ??? It would be

interesting

> to share your meanings.

>

> Peter [petermay@p...]

> Monday, November 05, 2001 3:02 PM

>

> Re: your wife's chart

>

>

> ÿþ<

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Krushna, I hope peter's problems are solved soon. I will work further on this chart. Best regards

Margarita

 

krushanain [krushanain]Monday, November 05, 2001 7:47 PM Subject: Re: your wife's chartDear Margarita, Peterji, and other list members, I think Peter's messages are not reaching, so I have redirected the same, It is apperearing, in rediredted mail. Similarly I have redirected his earlier messages. krushna , "dmlettens" <dmlettens@s...> wrote:> Hello Peter, I hope you get your own messages back so you can check how they> look !!> Probably more luck next time ??> Best regards> Margarita> P.S. no other enthousiasts to look at this chart ??? It would be interesting> to share your meanings.> > Peter [petermay@p...]> Monday, November 05, 2001 3:02 PM> > Re: your wife's chart> > > ÿþ<>

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Here is a copy of the letter I just sent back to Margarita. I am not sure if

it will get through so I am also sending a copy to Krushna.

 

Dear Margarita,

Thanks for your feedback. Regarding the low or high points in the A,B,C

houses I had thought about the averages but I didn't think that averaing was

allowed - so that is one thing I have learned !. I will be interested if you

do find the letter regarding the 7th. I have a mass of letters which I have

printed out to read later as they all contained instructive material.

Unfortunately up to about 2-3 weeks ago (when I got my new computer) all the

emails wouldn't print out the date of the letters so even if I read them I

can't refer to them by date as I don't know them.

Now re the more exact marriage date you have got it pretty good. Either the

transit of Saturn/Jupiter or Jupiter only would have been excellent as the

actual date was 16th March 1953.

Just one more bit of advice (call it a hint). You may have jumped to wrong

conclusion regarding the deah of May's parents as she was a very late child

(for those days anyway) as her mother was about 45 years old when May was

born. Both parents were born in the 1880s so looking at the dates you

suggested they would have been between 90 and 100years old when they died.

So thinking about that have another go and did you read the letter from

Krushna regarding the death of an relative - I can't really find the letter

but I am almost sure he said that the death of the father would be the lord

of the 3rd from the ninth or any planet in the 9th and similarly the death

of the mother would be the lord of the 3rd from the 3rd or any planet in the

3rd. This seems to be a very simple way to determine a death but of course

even if you decide on the sub period concerned you still have to decide the

main period. Try it you may be able to work it out easier than me - I can

tell you that it certainly works in at least one case I know of.

 

Peter

Namaste

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

The last letter got through Ok so I'll re-post the prior letter so that

other members can keep up with the trend.

 

Hello Peter,

Here the answer to your questions.

MERCURY AND SATURN SAMDHARMI:

In rashi Mercury and Saturn are in the same sign; in navamsha Saturn is in

Virgo, Mercury sign.

MERCURY LORD OF THE 6th AND INTESTINAL PROBLEMS

The lord of the 6th determines health in general; so he is the one who will

give troubles. Mercury is lord of Gemini and Virgo and Virgo has to do with

digestion and intestines, esp the large intestine.

LOW POINTS FOR THE FIRST

Taking the 1st as B, which is a very important house for health and well

being (house A for the 6th!!) we see A:27;B:24;C:30. Now average points for

a house should be 28 to give reasonable results. Average results for these

houses should be 84 (28x3) but we only have 81 points (27+24+30). I think

for health, such an important factor, this is rather low.

HIGH POINTS FOR THE 3TH HOUSE AS B

3th house denotes one's courage and capacity to fight. Looking at points for

these houses we see A:36; B:32; C:25 = 94. This is 10 points more than the

average 84; so I see them as strong

7th HOUSE : ACCIDENTS AND OPERATIONS.

In one of his mails (I have to find it back and let you know) Krushna stated

that death is seen through the 8th but for accidents and operations we

should also look at the 7th. Because Saturn is lord of A, Mercury, as

samdharmi and lord of the 6th can act. Well I think so anyway but perhaps

I'm wrong ???

As concerning the events; it seems I only got the marriage right so I will

try to pinpoint the right date.

Rahu/Mars goes from 04/07/52 until 23/07/53. Because Rahu and Mars are

involved I will rather chose the middle period of this bukti (Rahu is slow,

but Mars is lord of D so he can speed things up a bit) This middle period

goes from 10/11/52 until 16/03/53. Planets having more than 12p for the 7th

are Jupiter,Mars,Saturn and Mercury. Now I will opt for following period

:Sun must transit either Saturn/jupiter (between 5 & 14 march)or Jupiter only

(15 till 17 march 1953). With a small error in the birth time it even could

bee a bit later ?? I'm not sure as to the exact date but it must have been

somewhere in march 1953.

I will give the other events another try and see if there are any children

after marriage.

Thanks for your feed back. I find it an interesting chart.

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

 

Peter [petermay]

Monday, November 05, 2001 3:12 PM

Margarita Lettens

My Wife's chart

 

 

Dear Margarita,

Before I give you feedback on mywife's chart I have a couple of queries on

yourfirst analysis. I have copied your letter below and written my queries

in block. By the way I just tried to send this via the list and it came up

blank so please let me know ASAP if you have got this letter.

 

Hello Peter,

Before going into events, that happend in your wife's life and mostly are

" medical " , I think it would be good to make an evaluation of how the chart

looks for matters related to health.

Looking at the first as B we see that the lord of B is in the 12th together

with Mercury, lord of the 6th. I think this can indicate chronic

healthproblems. Saturn is also the lord of the 2nd, a planet bringing

worries and healthproblems. So I suppose there must be a chronic condition.

Mercury and Saturn are also samdharmi in Rashi as well as navamsha, so these

HOW DO NERCURY AND SATURN BECOME SAMDHARMI IN THE NAVAMSA?. I KNOW THEY ARE

IN A 4:10 RELATIONSHIP BUT THIS IS NOT SMDHARMI IF THE PLANET IN 10 HAS MORE

POINT THAN THE PLANET IN 4 WHICH IS THE CASE HERE.

two bad ones will work for each other.Staying with the traditional meanings

of Mercury and Saturn, I should opt for chronic problems like asthma, lung

problems or intestinal problems. INTESTINAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE MERCURY IS LORD

OF 6TH?

I think on a mental level they could be

related to an anxious nature, an internal stiffness that create tension.

Perhaps she had a puritan education and is still imposing a lot of

restrictions on herself? Nervous problems could therefore also be indicated.

The Sun, who is lord of A for the 1st is a very weak planet in the

worksheet; he only gives good results for the 10th. I think she could also

have heart problems, but I'm not too sure about that.

A,B, and C houses have rather low points A AND B HAVE LOW POINTS C HAS 30

POINTS!

Looking at the 3th as B we see houses A,B and C together have good points,

A=27, B=24, C=30 - B IS NOT GOOD POINTS?

especially the 10th which is house A, so I suppose she has a lot of courage

to face adversities and has a capacity to figt. Jupiter has high points for

all houses and is lord of B and D; he is helpful and not spoiling through

aspect even if his position in the 6th is not so happy.

For the 7th house as B we find Saturn playing the role of lord A. We have

seen that he has a bad reputation so he can be responsible, with Mercury for

accidents or operations. WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM I HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT

BEFORE. (PROBABLY JUST MY IGNORANCE)

Taking all this together I think your wife has a difficult life but she has

a tremedous courage to face adversities.

I will stop here and I'm looking foreward to some feed back before

" guessing " events.

I remember having your chart last year, but the chart itself and the mails

connected to it were partly eaten by a virus and further erased by the

re-formatting of my hard disk.

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

Now for your latest letter. ( By the way your first analyss was very good

and close to the truth in most cases

 

 

Hello Peter,

Thank you for the feed back on your wife's chart. I will try to find out

what her actual problem is and I suppose that it has something to do with

her former ailments and her constitution.

I just focused on Mercury as lord of the 6th, his association with Saturn

and his aspect from Jupiter in houses concerned. Mercury has to do with

" communication " which means " exchange " . Now exchange (in the body)is done in

the lungs and in the intestines. Exchange is also with environment so this

could explain her " shyness " . This is interesting.

I will try to " guess " following events that surely happend in her life. This

is of course the hardest part !

1.Moving :She moved from her birth country because she was born in England

and is

now living in Australia(I saw this in your email address)

2. Marriage and eventually children

3. death of her parents.(father and mother) If she was born in 1930, her

parents have probably passed away.

1.Moving.

Home is the 4th so loss of home could be the 11th (8th from 4)but also the

3th as 12th from the 4th. I think this could have happend in Rahu/Jupiter

(1938-1939) For the 3th as B Rahu is in B and Jupiter is lord of B and D.

For the 11th as B, Jupiter is lord of C in A.

Jupiter is the strongest significator in her chart.

WAY OUT HERE TRY MUCH LATER

2.Marriage.

I suppose we can see her marriage along the " traditional " lines and thus

look at the 7th as B.

There seems to be no delay in marriage, so she can have married early. My

guess is that she married in Rahu/Mars. Mars is lord of C and D and has

high points in the worksheet. Taking the 5th as B, Mars can act as samdharmi

for Saturn, lord of A and D. For the 11th, Mars is lord of B and E. So he

can give results for these houses. I think. So marriage in Rahu/Mars (1952)

CORRECT PERIOD HERE - CAN YOU NARROW IT DOWN FURTHER

3. children.

Well, I'll wait untill I know the correct date of marriage before starting

with that.

 

4.death of mother

mother is seen as 3th house, so death of the mother becomes 10th house.

Venus FK is most indicated but Saturn can come foreward in his dasha, he is

also lord of C. In Saturn Dasha, Moon is the first bukthi that can give

results, so I suppose her mother can have died in Saturn/Moon (1980-81)

I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE RECENTLY FORM KRUSHNA WHERE HE SAID THE DEATH OF

SOMEONE WAS THE 3RD FROM THE HOUSE INDICATING THE PERSON. SO DEATH OF FATHER

WOULD BE SUB PERIOD OF LORD OF 3RD FROM 9TH. DEATH OF MOTHER WOULD BE SUB

PERIOD OF LORD OF 3RD FROM 3RD. IN ANY CASE BOTH THESE DEATHS QUITE A LONG

WAY OUT - THEY WERE BOTH MUCH EARLIER.

5. death of father.

By taking the 4th as B we see that Mars and the Sun become strong

significators

Mars dasha was at birth but Mars is samdharmi to Saturn so the event could

happen in Saturn dasha. Saturn and Mercury cannot give bad results for the

9th of the father and Sun, Moon, Mars and Venus have low points. The first

to give results in Saturn dasha is Ketu who can represent Mars, lord A and B

and Mercury, lord E. So death of father probably in Saturn/Ketu(1975-76).

 

As I'm not sure at all I stop here. Probably my reasoning has a few flaws or

perhaps there are other periods that could come foreward. Predicting is not

easy and I could be completely off the mark. If I'm wrong don't tell me the

dates of the happenings, I want to have another try before I give up.

Thanks for the chart and best regards

Margarita

Best regards

Margarita