Chart for problem indentification - Krushna

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushna,

 

If you do not mind, I would like to ask a basic question.

You wrote the following in your reply to Surendra

 

> 1)Jupiter is 6th lord, and situated in Lagna (Libra), with 6

points.

> Jupiter in Libra with more points effecting 2nd and 7th house leads

> to delayed marriage.

> 2) Venus which is Natural Karak of marriage, it is about 46 degrees

> away from Sun, which reduces the general qualities of Venus. Again

it

 

Jupiter being in lagna being the lord of 6th house with 6 points

would aspect the 7th house with malefic aspect of -6 along with 5th

house and 9th house also with -6.

 

This is just for my understanding purposes.

 

7th house would indicated partners, marriage so it would reduce its

effects by magnitude of -6,

5th house denoting future prospects, love, windfall gains etc would

also be reduced by -6

9th house denoting past, luck, fortunes etc would be reduced by -6.

 

Jupiter in Libra spoils it effects futher, I belive that one law that

you have given in the lessons.

 

If this understanding is correct, then

What if Jupiter was in Lagna with say 2 points.

That then cast benefic aspect to 7th house, 9th and 5th house, would

that then enhance the possibility of marriage(7th), love(5th) and

luck (9th) and with the same token, because being malefic (2 point

and also being the lord of 6th house would bring a weak physical

constitution or some kind of disease, and enimity or legal issues to

the native.

 

Please correct my basic understanding as this would help me

understand the rational better.

 

Thank You,

Cheers !!!

Ash

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash, and list members,

Your questions and difficulties are welcome.

Yes, your understanding is correct. Jupiter is sixth lord for

cancer and libra acendent. Cancer is it's uccha rashi. So sixth lord

in cancer lagna with more points will increase the personal status of

the person. He becomes " PUJYA " or honored in public. But at the same

time he have to suffer some bad result about 9th, 7th and 5th house.

Generaly in the sub of jupiter native is separated from the person

denoted by these houses. ( 9th Father, 7th wife/partner, 5th

children.) For male chart the birth of child is in his absence.

In libra Jupiter looses it's quality and perticularly

regarding marriage, it gives less happiness, delay and similar

results.

If Jupiter is with less points, for cancer no ill result for

the house it is having it's sight. Still being in it's uccha rashi

some unhappy results will be experienced in it's sub period. Result

for 1st house will not be good Some poor consitution some illness is

indicated. This experience is prominent in the sub of Jupiter.

For Libra, result regarding marriage is hampered. even if it

is with less points. so delay in marriage may be experienced. With

more points more problem. For other houses, 5th and 9th it will give

better result.

Libra sign is not auspicious sign for Jupiter perticularly in

the matter of marriage.

krushna

, " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

wrote:

> Dear Krushna,

>

> If you do not mind, I would like to ask a basic question.

> You wrote the following in your reply to Surendra

>

> > 1)Jupiter is 6th lord, and situated in Lagna (Libra), with 6

> points.

> > Jupiter in Libra with more points effecting 2nd and 7th house

leads

> > to delayed marriage.

> > 2) Venus which is Natural Karak of marriage, it is about 46

degrees

> > away from Sun, which reduces the general qualities of Venus.

Again

> it

>

> Jupiter being in lagna being the lord of 6th house with 6 points

> would aspect the 7th house with malefic aspect of -6 along with 5th

> house and 9th house also with -6.

>

> This is just for my understanding purposes.

>

> 7th house would indicated partners, marriage so it would reduce its

> effects by magnitude of -6,

> 5th house denoting future prospects, love, windfall gains etc would

> also be reduced by -6

> 9th house denoting past, luck, fortunes etc would be reduced by -6.

>

> Jupiter in Libra spoils it effects futher, I belive that one law

that

> you have given in the lessons.

>

> If this understanding is correct, then

> What if Jupiter was in Lagna with say 2 points.

> That then cast benefic aspect to 7th house, 9th and 5th house,

would

> that then enhance the possibility of marriage(7th), love(5th) and

> luck (9th) and with the same token, because being malefic (2 point

> and also being the lord of 6th house would bring a weak physical

> constitution or some kind of disease, and enimity or legal issues

to

> the native.

>

> Please correct my basic understanding as this would help me

> understand the rational better.

>

> Thank You,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushna,

Thank you for your inputs, they are invaluable as ever

 

Krushna, how do we predict in case of other planets in their uccha

rasi as per Ashtakavarga system. I do understand that planets that

have attained > 5 points can be called exalted as they will deliver

their results good in full.

 

Krushna, you do consider the uccha rashi in the charts and if a

planet is in Uccha rashi then the the bad results eg guru in cancer

in lagna with low points is diluted because cancer is the exaltation

sign of guru. If guru is with more points in cancer lagna then the

malific results on the houses i.e 5th, 7th and 9th houses are

enhanced.

 

Guru in Cancer in lagna is a Mahapurusha yoga and thats what you mean

I guess when you mean that the native will be Pujya. Would the

similar results be indicated if Guru was in Saggitarius and Pisces in

lagna.

 

Thank You,

Cheers !!!

Krushna.

 

 

, " krushanain " <krushanain>

wrote:

> Dear Ash, and list members,

> Your questions and difficulties are welcome.

> Yes, your understanding is correct. Jupiter is sixth lord

for

> cancer and libra acendent. Cancer is it's uccha rashi. So sixth

lord

> in cancer lagna with more points will increase the personal status

of

> the person. He becomes " PUJYA " or honored in public. But at the

same

> time he have to suffer some bad result about 9th, 7th and 5th

house.

> Generaly in the sub of jupiter native is separated from the person

> denoted by these houses. ( 9th Father, 7th wife/partner, 5th

> children.) For male chart the birth of child is in his absence.

> In libra Jupiter looses it's quality and perticularly

> regarding marriage, it gives less happiness, delay and similar

> results.

> If Jupiter is with less points, for cancer no ill result for

> the house it is having it's sight. Still being in it's uccha rashi

> some unhappy results will be experienced in it's sub period. Result

> for 1st house will not be good Some poor consitution some illness

is

> indicated. This experience is prominent in the sub of Jupiter.

> For Libra, result regarding marriage is hampered. even if it

> is with less points. so delay in marriage may be experienced. With

> more points more problem. For other houses, 5th and 9th it will

give

> better result.

> Libra sign is not auspicious sign for Jupiter perticularly

in

> the matter of marriage.

> krushna

> , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Krushna,

> >

> > If you do not mind, I would like to ask a basic question.

> > You wrote the following in your reply to Surendra

> >

> > > 1)Jupiter is 6th lord, and situated in Lagna (Libra), with 6

> > points.

> > > Jupiter in Libra with more points effecting 2nd and 7th house

> leads

> > > to delayed marriage.

> > > 2) Venus which is Natural Karak of marriage, it is about 46

> degrees

> > > away from Sun, which reduces the general qualities of Venus.

> Again

> > it

> >

> > Jupiter being in lagna being the lord of 6th house with 6 points

> > would aspect the 7th house with malefic aspect of -6 along with

5th

> > house and 9th house also with -6.

> >

> > This is just for my understanding purposes.

> >

> > 7th house would indicated partners, marriage so it would reduce

its

> > effects by magnitude of -6,

> > 5th house denoting future prospects, love, windfall gains etc

would

> > also be reduced by -6

> > 9th house denoting past, luck, fortunes etc would be reduced by -

6.

> >

> > Jupiter in Libra spoils it effects futher, I belive that one law

> that

> > you have given in the lessons.

> >

> > If this understanding is correct, then

> > What if Jupiter was in Lagna with say 2 points.

> > That then cast benefic aspect to 7th house, 9th and 5th house,

> would

> > that then enhance the possibility of marriage(7th), love(5th) and

> > luck (9th) and with the same token, because being malefic (2

point

> > and also being the lord of 6th house would bring a weak physical

> > constitution or some kind of disease, and enimity or legal issues

> to

> > the native.

> >

> > Please correct my basic understanding as this would help me

> > understand the rational better.

> >

> > Thank You,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash, and List members,

Please refer Lesson no 26 for the effect of the rashi in

which the planets are situated. It gives the multiplication factor to

the points in sarvastak and in worksheet. Suppose Jupiter is in

Cancer, with 3 points, then multiplication factor is 1.4 so the

result of jupiter in Cancer will be 4.2 points say 4, so it may be

treated as neutral.So it's result will be on both side.

In cancer Lagna only, if Jupiter is in lagna ( in Cancer)

and with more points, then and then it indicates mahapurush yog. (

For Cancer lagna, Jupiter becames lord of E for first house as B, so

the result is enhanced, only if with more points.)

For other sign such as Saggitarius, or pisces such results

is not experienced. Of course it will give result as per the points,

but not a mahapurush yog.

Other comments below in Capital

 

-- In , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote:

> Dear Krushna,

> Thank you for your inputs, they are invaluable as ever

>

> Krushna, how do we predict in case of other planets in their uccha

> rasi as per Ashtakavarga system. I do understand that planets that

> have attained > 5 points can be called exalted as they will deliver

> their results good in full. CORRECT BUT FOR THE HOUSE IT IS

SITUATED.

>

> Krushna, you do consider the uccha rashi in the charts and if a

> planet is in Uccha rashi then the the bad results eg guru in cancer

> in lagna with low points is diluted because cancer is the

exaltation

> sign of guru. If guru is with more points in cancer lagna then the

> malific results on the houses i.e 5th, 7th and 9th houses are

> enhanced. CORRECT.

>

> Guru in Cancer in lagna is a Mahapurusha yoga and thats what you

mean

> I guess when you mean that the native will be Pujya. CORRECT, BUT

ONLY WHEN IT IS WITH MORE POINTS, RESULT IS PROPORTION TO THE

POINTS. Would the

> similar results be indicated if Guru was in Saggitarius and Pisces

in

> lagna. NO IT WILL NOT BE MAHAPURUSH YOG, BUT RESULT WILL BE AS PER

THE POINTS.

KRUSHNA

>

> Thank You,

> Cheers !!!

> Krushna.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji,

Thank you very much for your post. I shall go through chapter 26

again and try and understand the philosophy.

I shall also try it on a few charts.

 

Krushnaji, In one post in reference to the quantification of wealth,

you had made reference to Dhan Yoga. There are various Dhan yogas

as per vedic astrology. How would one quantify or see in a chart in

regards to how much. (I do understand its relative).

 

How would one identify by looking at a chart of a millionaire as

compared to a person showing abdject poverty or a person having

status of middle class (in which ever country he is located).

 

Do the magnitude of these Yogas have to be checked in all the

divisional charts apart from rasi namely Navamsa, Drekhana, and

trimsha. (I dont know if you have to check in Trimsha as it

indicates evils). ?

 

If you can give us some guidelines for that I would appreicate it.

 

 

Thanking you for your patience,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " krushanain " <krushanain>

wrote:

> Dear Ash, and List members,

> Please refer Lesson no 26 for the effect of the rashi in

> which the planets are situated. It gives the multiplication factor

to

> the points in sarvastak and in worksheet. Suppose Jupiter is in

> Cancer, with 3 points, then multiplication factor is 1.4 so the

> result of jupiter in Cancer will be 4.2 points say 4, so it may be

> treated as neutral.So it's result will be on both side.

> In cancer Lagna only, if Jupiter is in lagna ( in Cancer)

> and with more points, then and then it indicates mahapurush yog. (

> For Cancer lagna, Jupiter becames lord of E for first house as B,

so

> the result is enhanced, only if with more points.)

> For other sign such as Saggitarius, or pisces such

results

> is not experienced. Of course it will give result as per the

points,

> but not a mahapurush yog.

> Other comments below in Capital

>

> -- In , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

wrote:

> > Dear Krushna,

> > Thank you for your inputs, they are invaluable as ever

> >

> > Krushna, how do we predict in case of other planets in their

uccha

> > rasi as per Ashtakavarga system. I do understand that planets

that

> > have attained > 5 points can be called exalted as they will

deliver

> > their results good in full. CORRECT BUT FOR THE HOUSE IT IS

> SITUATED.

> >

> > Krushna, you do consider the uccha rashi in the charts and if a

> > planet is in Uccha rashi then the the bad results eg guru in

cancer

> > in lagna with low points is diluted because cancer is the

> exaltation

> > sign of guru. If guru is with more points in cancer lagna then

the

> > malific results on the houses i.e 5th, 7th and 9th houses are

> > enhanced. CORRECT.

> >

> > Guru in Cancer in lagna is a Mahapurusha yoga and thats what you

> mean

> > I guess when you mean that the native will be Pujya. CORRECT,

BUT

> ONLY WHEN IT IS WITH MORE POINTS, RESULT IS PROPORTION TO THE

> POINTS. Would the

> > similar results be indicated if Guru was in Saggitarius and

Pisces

> in

> > lagna. NO IT WILL NOT BE MAHAPURUSH YOG, BUT RESULT WILL BE AS

PER

> THE POINTS.

> KRUSHNA

> >

> > Thank You,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Krushna.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

For finding the Dhan Yog, first thing points in sarvastak for

the house 3,6,10, and 11 should be in rising order, and point in 11th

must be more. compairing to 12th house in 12th house points should be

very less, in that case person save from his earning. If the points

in 12th are more then 11th he will spend more then his income.

2nd and 8th house also give idea about wealth. 5th house gives

income with less effort. If in worksheet if these house gets good

points then the person can be having good wealth.

If Saturn is having sight on these house, then it will change

the result according to the points it have.

Wealth do not mean happiness, or one have to loose some thing

if more wealth is accumulated. Generally it is opposite house which

suffers. If 11th house is more powerful, and 5th house suffers then

more income is indicated. If 10th house is powerful, and 4th is

suffering more authority. If 8th house all the planets are powerful

then more expences on Medical and treatments, also longavity suffers.

If all the houses are having good points due to all the

planets, the person in real meaning is wealthy. He enjoys the life,

and all happiness. ( he may not have wealth)

Sixth lord in 2nd house with more points, person may not have

sufficient wealth, but he will not face shortage, and his name will

be counted in wealthy persons.

krushna

 

 

, " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

wrote:

> Dear Krushnaji,

> Thank you very much for your post. I shall go through chapter 26

> again and try and understand the philosophy.

> I shall also try it on a few charts.

>

> Krushnaji, In one post in reference to the quantification of

wealth,

> you had made reference to Dhan Yoga. There are various Dhan yogas

> as per vedic astrology. How would one quantify or see in a chart

in

> regards to how much. (I do understand its relative).

>

> How would one identify by looking at a chart of a millionaire as

> compared to a person showing abdject poverty or a person having

> status of middle class (in which ever country he is located).

>

> Do the magnitude of these Yogas have to be checked in all the

> divisional charts apart from rasi namely Navamsa, Drekhana, and

> trimsha. (I dont know if you have to check in Trimsha as it

> indicates evils). ?

>

> If you can give us some guidelines for that I would appreicate it.

>

>

> Thanking you for your patience,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " krushanain "

<krushanain>

> wrote:

> > Dear Ash, and List members,

> > Please refer Lesson no 26 for the effect of the rashi in

> > which the planets are situated. It gives the multiplication

factor

> to

> > the points in sarvastak and in worksheet. Suppose Jupiter is in

> > Cancer, with 3 points, then multiplication factor is 1.4 so the

> > result of jupiter in Cancer will be 4.2 points say 4, so it may

be

> > treated as neutral.So it's result will be on both side.

> > In cancer Lagna only, if Jupiter is in lagna ( in

Cancer)

> > and with more points, then and then it indicates mahapurush yog.

(

> > For Cancer lagna, Jupiter becames lord of E for first house as B,

> so

> > the result is enhanced, only if with more points.)

> > For other sign such as Saggitarius, or pisces such

> results

> > is not experienced. Of course it will give result as per the

> points,

> > but not a mahapurush yog.

> > Other comments below in Capital

> >

> > -- In , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

> wrote:

> > > Dear Krushna,

> > > Thank you for your inputs, they are invaluable as ever

> > >

> > > Krushna, how do we predict in case of other planets in their

> uccha

> > > rasi as per Ashtakavarga system. I do understand that planets

> that

> > > have attained > 5 points can be called exalted as they will

> deliver

> > > their results good in full. CORRECT BUT FOR THE HOUSE IT IS

> > SITUATED.

> > >

> > > Krushna, you do consider the uccha rashi in the charts and if a

> > > planet is in Uccha rashi then the the bad results eg guru in

> cancer

> > > in lagna with low points is diluted because cancer is the

> > exaltation

> > > sign of guru. If guru is with more points in cancer lagna then

> the

> > > malific results on the houses i.e 5th, 7th and 9th houses are

> > > enhanced. CORRECT.

> > >

> > > Guru in Cancer in lagna is a Mahapurusha yoga and thats what

you

> > mean

> > > I guess when you mean that the native will be Pujya. CORRECT,

> BUT

> > ONLY WHEN IT IS WITH MORE POINTS, RESULT IS PROPORTION TO THE

> > POINTS. Would the

> > > similar results be indicated if Guru was in Saggitarius and

> Pisces

> > in

> > > lagna. NO IT WILL NOT BE MAHAPURUSH YOG, BUT RESULT WILL BE AS

> PER

> > THE POINTS.

> > KRUSHNA

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Krushna.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushna,

Thank you for your post.

From your post I could gather the following.

 

1) For Happiness or an ideal chart for having balance and happiness

all houses must have equal points in SAV. i.e houses from 1 to 12.

In that way everything will be in balance. eg. if 1st house points =

7th house points then wife and husband will have harmony, 4th and

10th having equal points would mean balance between home and family

life and working life, 11th and 5th having equal points would mean

balance in gains or income and knowledge and children etc.

 

2) Now regarding Dhan Yoga, you said that points in 3rd, 6th, 10th

and 11th should be in rising order. 3rd would indicated parakram,

6th would indicated status, 10th would indicate effort put in karma

or work and 11th would indicated gains. 8th would indicate end or

retirement and 12th would indicated expenses.

What I do not understand is that Why do you not consider the 2nd

house for wealth.

 

For quantification of wealth would you also need to see the strengths

of natural karakatwas of 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th houses too.?

 

What divisional charts must these indications exists for confirming

these significances ?

 

Clarifications needed on this point.

 

When you mention Dhan yoga, do you mean that for eg. if there was a

parivartan between 2nd and 11th lords, or lakshmi sthan lords (lords

of trines) and vishnu shtans (lord of kendras) conjoin or aspect,

such Dhan Yogas etc. That is what I assumed . I may be wrong.

Please correct my understanding here.

 

Thanking you for your patience,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

, " krushanain " <krushanain>

wrote:

> Dear Ash,

> For finding the Dhan Yog, first thing points in sarvastak

for

> the house 3,6,10, and 11 should be in rising order, and point in

11th

> must be more. compairing to 12th house in 12th house points should

be

> very less, in that case person save from his earning. If the points

> in 12th are more then 11th he will spend more then his income.

> 2nd and 8th house also give idea about wealth. 5th house

gives

> income with less effort. If in worksheet if these house gets good

> points then the person can be having good wealth.

> If Saturn is having sight on these house, then it will

change

> the result according to the points it have.

> Wealth do not mean happiness, or one have to loose some

thing

> if more wealth is accumulated. Generally it is opposite house which

> suffers. If 11th house is more powerful, and 5th house suffers then

> more income is indicated. If 10th house is powerful, and 4th is

> suffering more authority. If 8th house all the planets are powerful

> then more expences on Medical and treatments, also longavity

suffers.

> If all the houses are having good points due to all the

> planets, the person in real meaning is wealthy. He enjoys the life,

> and all happiness. ( he may not have wealth)

> Sixth lord in 2nd house with more points, person may not have

> sufficient wealth, but he will not face shortage, and his name will

> be counted in wealthy persons.

> krushna

>

>

> , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Krushnaji,

> > Thank you very much for your post. I shall go through chapter 26

> > again and try and understand the philosophy.

> > I shall also try it on a few charts.

> >

> > Krushnaji, In one post in reference to the quantification of

> wealth,

> > you had made reference to Dhan Yoga. There are various Dhan

yogas

> > as per vedic astrology. How would one quantify or see in a chart

> in

> > regards to how much. (I do understand its relative).

> >

> > How would one identify by looking at a chart of a millionaire as

> > compared to a person showing abdject poverty or a person having

> > status of middle class (in which ever country he is located).

> >

> > Do the magnitude of these Yogas have to be checked in all the

> > divisional charts apart from rasi namely Navamsa, Drekhana, and

> > trimsha. (I dont know if you have to check in Trimsha as it

> > indicates evils). ?

> >

> > If you can give us some guidelines for that I would appreicate it.

> >

> >

> > Thanking you for your patience,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " krushanain "

> <krushanain>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Ash, and List members,

> > > Please refer Lesson no 26 for the effect of the rashi

in

> > > which the planets are situated. It gives the multiplication

> factor

> > to

> > > the points in sarvastak and in worksheet. Suppose Jupiter is in

> > > Cancer, with 3 points, then multiplication factor is 1.4 so the

> > > result of jupiter in Cancer will be 4.2 points say 4, so it may

> be

> > > treated as neutral.So it's result will be on both side.

> > > In cancer Lagna only, if Jupiter is in lagna ( in

> Cancer)

> > > and with more points, then and then it indicates mahapurush

yog.

> (

> > > For Cancer lagna, Jupiter becames lord of E for first house as

B,

> > so

> > > the result is enhanced, only if with more points.)

> > > For other sign such as Saggitarius, or pisces such

> > results

> > > is not experienced. Of course it will give result as per the

> > points,

> > > but not a mahapurush yog.

> > > Other comments below in Capital

> > >

> > > -- In , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

> > wrote:

> > > > Dear Krushna,

> > > > Thank you for your inputs, they are invaluable as ever

> > > >

> > > > Krushna, how do we predict in case of other planets in their

> > uccha

> > > > rasi as per Ashtakavarga system. I do understand that

planets

> > that

> > > > have attained > 5 points can be called exalted as they will

> > deliver

> > > > their results good in full. CORRECT BUT FOR THE HOUSE IT IS

> > > SITUATED.

> > > >

> > > > Krushna, you do consider the uccha rashi in the charts and if

a

> > > > planet is in Uccha rashi then the the bad results eg guru in

> > cancer

> > > > in lagna with low points is diluted because cancer is the

> > > exaltation

> > > > sign of guru. If guru is with more points in cancer lagna

then

> > the

> > > > malific results on the houses i.e 5th, 7th and 9th houses are

> > > > enhanced. CORRECT.

> > > >

> > > > Guru in Cancer in lagna is a Mahapurusha yoga and thats what

> you

> > > mean

> > > > I guess when you mean that the native will be Pujya. CORRECT,

> > BUT

> > > ONLY WHEN IT IS WITH MORE POINTS, RESULT IS PROPORTION TO THE

> > > POINTS. Would the

> > > > similar results be indicated if Guru was in Saggitarius and

> > Pisces

> > > in

> > > > lagna. NO IT WILL NOT BE MAHAPURUSH YOG, BUT RESULT WILL BE

AS

> > PER

> > > THE POINTS.

> > > KRUSHNA

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Krushna.

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

Today I am late so give the answer in short. There are total

336 benefic points. Which are spred over the chart and are

distributed in 12 houses. Obviously some house will get more then

some will get less.

Regarding 2nd house I think I have refered, 2nd house is

known as Dhan stan. It is house D for 5th house (easy money, lottery

unearned money) and house E for 9th house ( father) Similarly house

8th is D for 11th house.

In this system we consider all yogas given in different

names, with specific position of the planets. If the lord of 10th

house (house E for 5th house ) situated in 2nd house with more

points, and lord of 12th is powerful then it will give better wealth,

Same thing is denoted as Vishnu stan and trine of 10th is 2nd so

Laxmi stan. 2,6 and 10th house are artha triplicity. Out of these 2nd

is mental plane, 6th is spiritual plane and 10th is Physical plane.

When the kendra lord 10th is in 2nd trine to 10th is a dhan yoga. The

meaning of this is taken as parivartan between kendra and trine

place.

The parivratan yog between 10th and 2nd lord is more

powerful dhan yog.

So in stead of considering each and every yog, given in

vedic astrology, which are againg having some contra, This system

covers every thing, with out giving perticular name. All those things

are covered in worksheet, and final sterength of each planet we get

for each and every house.

While interpreting, we should consider the status of the

planets.

Today I am late, Will try to give some thing basic in

details, Mean while please try on some charts of wealthy persons, so

it will clear the concept.

krushna

 

 

, " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

wrote:

> Dear Krushna,

> Thank you for your post.

> From your post I could gather the following.

>

> 1) For Happiness or an ideal chart for having balance and happiness

> all houses must have equal points in SAV. i.e houses from 1 to 12.

> In that way everything will be in balance. eg. if 1st house points

=

> 7th house points then wife and husband will have harmony, 4th and

> 10th having equal points would mean balance between home and family

> life and working life, 11th and 5th having equal points would mean

> balance in gains or income and knowledge and children etc.

>

> 2) Now regarding Dhan Yoga, you said that points in 3rd, 6th, 10th

> and 11th should be in rising order. 3rd would indicated parakram,

> 6th would indicated status, 10th would indicate effort put in karma

> or work and 11th would indicated gains. 8th would indicate end or

> retirement and 12th would indicated expenses.

> What I do not understand is that Why do you not consider the 2nd

> house for wealth.

>

> For quantification of wealth would you also need to see the

strengths

> of natural karakatwas of 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th houses too.?

>

> What divisional charts must these indications exists for confirming

> these significances ?

>

> Clarifications needed on this point.

>

> When you mention Dhan yoga, do you mean that for eg. if there was a

> parivartan between 2nd and 11th lords, or lakshmi sthan lords

(lords

> of trines) and vishnu shtans (lord of kendras) conjoin or aspect,

> such Dhan Yogas etc. That is what I assumed . I may be wrong.

> Please correct my understanding here.

>

> Thanking you for your patience,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

>

>

> , " krushanain "

<krushanain>

> wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> > For finding the Dhan Yog, first thing points in sarvastak

> for

> > the house 3,6,10, and 11 should be in rising order, and point in

> 11th

> > must be more. compairing to 12th house in 12th house points

should

> be

> > very less, in that case person save from his earning. If the

points

> > in 12th are more then 11th he will spend more then his income.

> > 2nd and 8th house also give idea about wealth. 5th house

> gives

> > income with less effort. If in worksheet if these house gets good

> > points then the person can be having good wealth.

> > If Saturn is having sight on these house, then it will

> change

> > the result according to the points it have.

> > Wealth do not mean happiness, or one have to loose some

> thing

> > if more wealth is accumulated. Generally it is opposite house

which

> > suffers. If 11th house is more powerful, and 5th house suffers

then

> > more income is indicated. If 10th house is powerful, and 4th is

> > suffering more authority. If 8th house all the planets are

powerful

> > then more expences on Medical and treatments, also longavity

> suffers.

> > If all the houses are having good points due to all the

> > planets, the person in real meaning is wealthy. He enjoys the

life,

> > and all happiness. ( he may not have wealth)

> > Sixth lord in 2nd house with more points, person may not

have

> > sufficient wealth, but he will not face shortage, and his name

will

> > be counted in wealthy persons.

> > krushna

> >

> >

> > , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > > Thank you very much for your post. I shall go through chapter

26

> > > again and try and understand the philosophy.

> > > I shall also try it on a few charts.

> > >

> > > Krushnaji, In one post in reference to the quantification of

> > wealth,

> > > you had made reference to Dhan Yoga. There are various Dhan

> yogas

> > > as per vedic astrology. How would one quantify or see in a

chart

> > in

> > > regards to how much. (I do understand its relative).

> > >

> > > How would one identify by looking at a chart of a millionaire

as

> > > compared to a person showing abdject poverty or a person having

> > > status of middle class (in which ever country he is located).

> > >

> > > Do the magnitude of these Yogas have to be checked in all the

> > > divisional charts apart from rasi namely Navamsa, Drekhana, and

> > > trimsha. (I dont know if you have to check in Trimsha as it

> > > indicates evils). ?

> > >

> > > If you can give us some guidelines for that I would appreicate

it.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanking you for your patience,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " krushanain "

> > <krushanain>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash, and List members,

> > > > Please refer Lesson no 26 for the effect of the

rashi

> in

> > > > which the planets are situated. It gives the multiplication

> > factor

> > > to

> > > > the points in sarvastak and in worksheet. Suppose Jupiter is

in

> > > > Cancer, with 3 points, then multiplication factor is 1.4 so

the

> > > > result of jupiter in Cancer will be 4.2 points say 4, so it

may

> > be

> > > > treated as neutral.So it's result will be on both side.

> > > > In cancer Lagna only, if Jupiter is in lagna ( in

> > Cancer)

> > > > and with more points, then and then it indicates mahapurush

> yog.

> > (

> > > > For Cancer lagna, Jupiter becames lord of E for first house

as

> B,

> > > so

> > > > the result is enhanced, only if with more points.)

> > > > For other sign such as Saggitarius, or pisces such

> > > results

> > > > is not experienced. Of course it will give result as per the

> > > points,

> > > > but not a mahapurush yog.

> > > > Other comments below in Capital

> > > >

> > > > -- In , " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73@h...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Krushna,

> > > > > Thank you for your inputs, they are invaluable as ever

> > > > >

> > > > > Krushna, how do we predict in case of other planets in

their

> > > uccha

> > > > > rasi as per Ashtakavarga system. I do understand that

> planets

> > > that

> > > > > have attained > 5 points can be called exalted as they will

> > > deliver

> > > > > their results good in full. CORRECT BUT FOR THE HOUSE IT IS

> > > > SITUATED.

> > > > >

> > > > > Krushna, you do consider the uccha rashi in the charts and

if

> a

> > > > > planet is in Uccha rashi then the the bad results eg guru

in

> > > cancer

> > > > > in lagna with low points is diluted because cancer is the

> > > > exaltation

> > > > > sign of guru. If guru is with more points in cancer lagna

> then

> > > the

> > > > > malific results on the houses i.e 5th, 7th and 9th houses

are

> > > > > enhanced. CORRECT.

> > > > >

> > > > > Guru in Cancer in lagna is a Mahapurusha yoga and thats

what

> > you

> > > > mean

> > > > > I guess when you mean that the native will be Pujya.

CORRECT,

> > > BUT

> > > > ONLY WHEN IT IS WITH MORE POINTS, RESULT IS PROPORTION TO THE

> > > > POINTS. Would the

> > > > > similar results be indicated if Guru was in Saggitarius and

> > > Pisces

> > > > in

> > > > > lagna. NO IT WILL NOT BE MAHAPURUSH YOG, BUT RESULT WILL BE

> AS

> > > PER

> > > > THE POINTS.

> > > > KRUSHNA

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Krushna.

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Respected Krishnaji,

 

Should there be any additional multiplication factor for the LAGNA LORD ?

 

That should be logical, as he can never be malefic.

 

Regards,

 

J.K. Dasgupta

 

-

krushanain

Friday, December 14, 2001 11:42 AM

Re: Chart for problem indentification - Krushna

Dear Ash, and List members, Please refer Lesson no 26 for the effect of the rashi in which the planets are situated. It gives the multiplication factor to the points in sarvastak and in worksheet. Suppose Jupiter is in Cancer, with 3 points, then multiplication factor is 1.4 so the result of jupiter in Cancer will be 4.2 points say 4, so it may be treated as neutral.So it's result will be on both side. In cancer Lagna only, if Jupiter is in lagna ( in Cancer) and with more points, then and then it indicates mahapurush yog. ( For Cancer lagna, Jupiter becames lord of E for first house as B, so the result is enhanced, only if with more points.) For other sign such as Saggitarius, or pisces such results is not experienced. Of course it will give result as per the points, but not a mahapurush yog. Other comments below in Capital -- In , "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> wrote:> Dear Krushna,> Thank you for your inputs, they are invaluable as ever > > Krushna, how do we predict in case of other planets in their uccha > rasi as per Ashtakavarga system. I do understand that planets that > have attained > 5 points can be called exalted as they will deliver > their results good in full. CORRECT BUT FOR THE HOUSE IT IS SITUATED.> > Krushna, you do consider the uccha rashi in the charts and if a > planet is in Uccha rashi then the the bad results eg guru in cancer > in lagna with low points is diluted because cancer is the exaltation > sign of guru. If guru is with more points in cancer lagna then the > malific results on the houses i.e 5th, 7th and 9th houses are > enhanced. CORRECT. > > Guru in Cancer in lagna is a Mahapurusha yoga and thats what you mean > I guess when you mean that the native will be Pujya. CORRECT, BUT ONLY WHEN IT IS WITH MORE POINTS, RESULT IS PROPORTION TO THE POINTS. Would the > similar results be indicated if Guru was in Saggitarius and Pisces in > lagna. NO IT WILL NOT BE MAHAPURUSH YOG, BUT RESULT WILL BE AS PER THE POINTS.KRUSHNA> > Thank You,> Cheers !!!> Krushna.

[Guest guest]

Dear Dasgupta,

No any other multiplication factor. it is not neccessary that

lagna lord can not be malefic. Minimum points in Lagna is possible 16

in very special case.

krushna

 

, " J.K.Dasgupta " <dga@b...> wrote:

> Respected Krishnaji,

>

> Should there be any additional multiplication factor for the LAGNA

LORD ?

>

> That should be logical, as he can never be malefic.

>

> Regards,

>

> J.K. Dasgupta

> -

> krushanain

>

> Friday, December 14, 2001 11:42 AM

> Re: Chart for problem

indentification - Krushna

>

>

> Dear Ash, and List members,

> Please refer Lesson no 26 for the effect of the rashi in

> which the planets are situated. It gives the multiplication

factor to

> the points in sarvastak and in worksheet. Suppose Jupiter is in

> Cancer, with 3 points, then multiplication factor is 1.4 so the

> result of jupiter in Cancer will be 4.2 points say 4, so it may

be

> treated as neutral.So it's result will be on both side.

> In cancer Lagna only, if Jupiter is in lagna ( in

Cancer)

> and with more points, then and then it indicates mahapurush yog.

(

> For Cancer lagna, Jupiter becames lord of E for first house as B,

so

> the result is enhanced, only if with more points.)

> For other sign such as Saggitarius, or pisces such

results

> is not experienced. Of course it will give result as per the

points,

> but not a mahapurush yog.

> Other comments below in Capital

>

> -- In , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

wrote:

> > Dear Krushna,

> > Thank you for your inputs, they are invaluable as ever

> >

> > Krushna, how do we predict in case of other planets in their

uccha

> > rasi as per Ashtakavarga system. I do understand that planets

that

> > have attained > 5 points can be called exalted as they will

deliver

> > their results good in full. CORRECT BUT FOR THE HOUSE IT IS

> SITUATED.

> >

> > Krushna, you do consider the uccha rashi in the charts and if a

> > planet is in Uccha rashi then the the bad results eg guru in

cancer

> > in lagna with low points is diluted because cancer is the

> exaltation

> > sign of guru. If guru is with more points in cancer lagna then

the

> > malific results on the houses i.e 5th, 7th and 9th houses are

> > enhanced. CORRECT.

> >

> > Guru in Cancer in lagna is a Mahapurusha yoga and thats what

you

> mean

> > I guess when you mean that the native will be Pujya. CORRECT,

BUT

> ONLY WHEN IT IS WITH MORE POINTS, RESULT IS PROPORTION TO THE

> POINTS. Would the

> > similar results be indicated if Guru was in Saggitarius and

Pisces

> in

> > lagna. NO IT WILL NOT BE MAHAPURUSH YOG, BUT RESULT WILL BE AS

PER

> THE POINTS.

> KRUSHNA

> >

> > Thank You,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Krushna.

[Guest guest]

Dear Dasgupta and Ash and other list members,

 

AV system is based on the relative position of the planets,

It covers all the yogas, based on the relative position from each

other. For Example for Libra lagna Saturn is lord of 4th and fifth

house, so Saturn became Raj yog karak, Same is for Taurus lagna it

became 9th and 10th lord, again Rajyog karak. In the basic of this

system we consider them to be natural samdharmi, So they can give

result for each other. Similar is case with Capricorn and aquarius

lagna, Venus becames Rajyog karak.

For Cancer and Leo ascendent Mars is rajyog karak, We treat

them as natural samdharmi. Similarly for Arises and Scorpio Lagna Sun

and Moon together became Yog karak.

The strength of the house and planet are the base for

prediction. 4:10 relationship is a important yog, and covers mainly

all yog. The lord of D and E are lord of houses which are 5:9 from

each other, and 6th and 10th lords from the house B.

The effect of sight on each planet and houses is also

considered, Effect of the sight good or bad is also find out.

The multiplication factor is useful only to find the

quontam of the result. It's effect ( multiplication factor) is not

used for finding the direct effect. If you study the system which is

based on Upachay stan, which covers all Dharm arth Kaam and Moksha

triplicity, along with Physical, mental and spiritual planes.

This is detail of the theory, not neccessary to go in

detail. The results achived is denoted in numerical value, makes it

easy to ascertain the results.

krushna

 

, " J.K.Dasgupta " <dga@b...> wrote:

> Respected Krishnaji,

>

> Should there be any additional multiplication factor for the LAGNA

LORD ?

>

> That should be logical, as he can never be malefic.

>

> Regards,

>

> J.K. Dasgupta

> -

> krushanain

>

> Friday, December 14, 2001 11:42 AM

> Re: Chart for problem

indentification - Krushna

>

>

> Dear Ash, and List members,

> Please refer Lesson no 26 for the effect of the rashi in

> which the planets are situated. It gives the multiplication

factor to

> the points in sarvastak and in worksheet. Suppose Jupiter is in

> Cancer, with 3 points, then multiplication factor is 1.4 so the

> result of jupiter in Cancer will be 4.2 points say 4, so it may

be

> treated as neutral.So it's result will be on both side.

> In cancer Lagna only, if Jupiter is in lagna ( in

Cancer)

> and with more points, then and then it indicates mahapurush yog.

(

> For Cancer lagna, Jupiter becames lord of E for first house as B,

so

> the result is enhanced, only if with more points.)

> For other sign such as Saggitarius, or pisces such

results

> is not experienced. Of course it will give result as per the

points,

> but not a mahapurush yog.

> Other comments below in Capital

>

> -- In , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

wrote:

> > Dear Krushna,

> > Thank you for your inputs, they are invaluable as ever

> >

> > Krushna, how do we predict in case of other planets in their

uccha

> > rasi as per Ashtakavarga system. I do understand that planets

that

> > have attained > 5 points can be called exalted as they will

deliver

> > their results good in full. CORRECT BUT FOR THE HOUSE IT IS

> SITUATED.

> >

> > Krushna, you do consider the uccha rashi in the charts and if a

> > planet is in Uccha rashi then the the bad results eg guru in

cancer

> > in lagna with low points is diluted because cancer is the

> exaltation

> > sign of guru. If guru is with more points in cancer lagna then

the

> > malific results on the houses i.e 5th, 7th and 9th houses are

> > enhanced. CORRECT.

> >

> > Guru in Cancer in lagna is a Mahapurusha yoga and thats what

you

> mean

> > I guess when you mean that the native will be Pujya. CORRECT,

BUT

> ONLY WHEN IT IS WITH MORE POINTS, RESULT IS PROPORTION TO THE

> POINTS. Would the

> > similar results be indicated if Guru was in Saggitarius and

Pisces

> in

> > lagna. NO IT WILL NOT BE MAHAPURUSH YOG, BUT RESULT WILL BE AS

PER

> THE POINTS.

> KRUSHNA

> >

> > Thank You,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Krushna.

[Guest guest]

Respected Krushnaji,

 

Thank you for the nice clarification. In fact I find that after applying the multiplication factor many things become clearer than before.

 

A planet having less than 12 gives malefic effect. After multiplying with the factor many planets are changing their natures. For me Mars was the planet getting highest points for every house, but it never gave so good results. Now after applying the factor Me gets highest points-during which periods i actually got good results.

 

One more doubt. When a plnaets gets less than 12 it gives malefic result. But if the signification house happens to be his own house-will it give bad result or it will remain neutral or will protect the house significance? It is not very clear to me. Will you please clarify the point?

 

Regards,

 

Dasgupta

 

-

krushanain

Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:34 AM

Re: Chart for problem indentification - Krushna

Dear Dasgupta and Ash and other list members, AV system is based on the relative position of the planets, It covers all the yogas, based on the relative position from each other. For Example for Libra lagna Saturn is lord of 4th and fifth house, so Saturn became Raj yog karak, Same is for Taurus lagna it became 9th and 10th lord, again Rajyog karak. In the basic of this system we consider them to be natural samdharmi, So they can give result for each other. Similar is case with Capricorn and aquarius lagna, Venus becames Rajyog karak. For Cancer and Leo ascendent Mars is rajyog karak, We treat them as natural samdharmi. Similarly for Arises and Scorpio Lagna Sun and Moon together became Yog karak. The strength of the house and planet are the base for prediction. 4:10 relationship is a important yog, and covers mainly all yog. The lord of D and E are lord of houses which are 5:9 from each other, and 6th and 10th lords from the house B. The effect of sight on each planet and houses is also considered, Effect of the sight good or bad is also find out. The multiplication factor is useful only to find the quontam of the result. It's effect ( multiplication factor) is not used for finding the direct effect. If you study the system which is based on Upachay stan, which covers all Dharm arth Kaam and Moksha triplicity, along with Physical, mental and spiritual planes. This is detail of the theory, not neccessary to go in detail. The results achived is denoted in numerical value, makes it easy to ascertain the results. krushna , "J.K.Dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:> Respected Krishnaji,> > Should there be any additional multiplication factor for the LAGNA LORD ?> > That should be logical, as he can never be malefic.> > Regards,> > J.K. Dasgupta

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji,

Thank you for this post. Ashtakavarga system is getting clearer as I

am trying to understand the fundamentals and the reasoning between

the lords the houses and their signifcance and their relationships.

There are a lot of whys that need clarifications but that will come

in time as I dwelve deeper, for example why do lords of D and E act

though their lord, and this post of yours clarifies it as they are in

5:9 relationship.

 

I believe that an indeapth understanding of concepts and traditions

and philosophy and curiosity of getting answers to all the whys

behind every word you write would illuminite us with the light of

jyotish. I would like you to know that you are doing this world a

great favour by spreading the light of Jyotish.

 

 

With these words I would like to wish you, Krushnaji, and all the

members on this list and their loved ones a very merry christmas and

a happy new year.

 

May the coming year bless us with becoming better jyotish and human

beings.

 

Seasons Greetings,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " krushanain " <krushanain>

wrote:

> Dear Dasgupta and Ash and other list members,

>

> AV system is based on the relative position of the

planets,

> It covers all the yogas, based on the relative position from each

> other. For Example for Libra lagna Saturn is lord of 4th and fifth

> house, so Saturn became Raj yog karak, Same is for Taurus lagna it

> became 9th and 10th lord, again Rajyog karak. In the basic of this

> system we consider them to be natural samdharmi, So they can give

> result for each other. Similar is case with Capricorn and aquarius

> lagna, Venus becames Rajyog karak.

> For Cancer and Leo ascendent Mars is rajyog karak, We

treat

> them as natural samdharmi. Similarly for Arises and Scorpio Lagna

Sun

> and Moon together became Yog karak.

> The strength of the house and planet are the base for

> prediction. 4:10 relationship is a important yog, and covers mainly

> all yog. The lord of D and E are lord of houses which are 5:9 from

> each other, and 6th and 10th lords from the house B.

> The effect of sight on each planet and houses is also

> considered, Effect of the sight good or bad is also find out.

> The multiplication factor is useful only to find the

> quontam of the result. It's effect ( multiplication factor) is not

> used for finding the direct effect. If you study the system which

is

> based on Upachay stan, which covers all Dharm arth Kaam and Moksha

> triplicity, along with Physical, mental and spiritual planes.

> This is detail of the theory, not neccessary to go in

> detail. The results achived is denoted in numerical value, makes it

> easy to ascertain the results.

> krushna

>

> , " J.K.Dasgupta " <dga@b...>

wrote:

> > Respected Krishnaji,

> >

> > Should there be any additional multiplication factor for the

LAGNA

> LORD ?

> >

> > That should be logical, as he can never be malefic.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > J.K. Dasgupta

> > -

> > krushanain

> >

> > Friday, December 14, 2001 11:42 AM

> > Re: Chart for problem

> indentification - Krushna

> >

> >

> > Dear Ash, and List members,

> > Please refer Lesson no 26 for the effect of the rashi

in

> > which the planets are situated. It gives the multiplication

> factor to

> > the points in sarvastak and in worksheet. Suppose Jupiter is in

> > Cancer, with 3 points, then multiplication factor is 1.4 so the

> > result of jupiter in Cancer will be 4.2 points say 4, so it may

> be

> > treated as neutral.So it's result will be on both side.

> > In cancer Lagna only, if Jupiter is in lagna ( in

> Cancer)

> > and with more points, then and then it indicates mahapurush

yog.

> (

> > For Cancer lagna, Jupiter becames lord of E for first house as

B,

> so

> > the result is enhanced, only if with more points.)

> > For other sign such as Saggitarius, or pisces such

> results

> > is not experienced. Of course it will give result as per the

> points,

> > but not a mahapurush yog.

> > Other comments below in Capital

> >

> > -- In , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

> wrote:

> > > Dear Krushna,

> > > Thank you for your inputs, they are invaluable as ever

> > >

> > > Krushna, how do we predict in case of other planets in their

> uccha

> > > rasi as per Ashtakavarga system. I do understand that

planets

> that

> > > have attained > 5 points can be called exalted as they will

> deliver

> > > their results good in full. CORRECT BUT FOR THE HOUSE IT IS

> > SITUATED.

> > >

> > > Krushna, you do consider the uccha rashi in the charts and if

a

> > > planet is in Uccha rashi then the the bad results eg guru in

> cancer

> > > in lagna with low points is diluted because cancer is the

> > exaltation

> > > sign of guru. If guru is with more points in cancer lagna

then

> the

> > > malific results on the houses i.e 5th, 7th and 9th houses are

> > > enhanced. CORRECT.

> > >

> > > Guru in Cancer in lagna is a Mahapurusha yoga and thats what

> you

> > mean

> > > I guess when you mean that the native will be Pujya. CORRECT,

> BUT

> > ONLY WHEN IT IS WITH MORE POINTS, RESULT IS PROPORTION TO THE

> > POINTS. Would the

> > > similar results be indicated if Guru was in Saggitarius and

> Pisces

> > in

> > > lagna. NO IT WILL NOT BE MAHAPURUSH YOG, BUT RESULT WILL BE

AS

> PER

> > THE POINTS.

> > KRUSHNA

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Krushna.