Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Respected Krushna, This is the chart of a mentally retarded girl (mongolism or 1 x chromosome too much). Female, born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 21 april 2000 at 11h49 am - zone 1 - DTS on = 09h49 G.M.T. 4E26 and 50N25 - ay 23:51 Asc 2°55 cancer; Sun 7°44 aries; Moon 8°14 scorpio; Mars 27°22 aries; Mercury 19°48 pisces; Jupiter 20°02 aries; Venus 24°11 pisces; Saturn 24°06 aries; Rahu 4°46 cancer. 1.How is it possible to distinguish a mentally retarded chart from a normal one ? What houses/planets/points/aspects??? 2.She is actually running Saturn main period and Saturn is lord A for the 12th and the 1st, so considering house B, results could be linked to the 1st and the 12th. (Mars,Sun,Jupiter, Saturn in D for the 1st) and (Venus, Mercury and Moon in D and E for 12th) and Moon D and E for 8th )Can this signify that she is not going to live long ? (they usually don't). Could you clarify please? Thanks and best regards Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Dear Margarita, Generally for mentally retarded childs one thing is generally found, the third lord is in fourth house or with fourth lord, and fifth lord is in 2nd house or 2nd lord. Fifth lord makes 6:8 or 2:12 combination with lagna lord. Very rarely we find zero point in sarvastak chart. Rahu generally afflicts the Moon, or Moon is situated in the constellation of Rahu or Ketu. If we go for the chart of conception, Moon and Mars are effected by Rahu, (see in rashi and navamansha chart) Other then these no special symptoms are indicated. If we study the chart of Mother and father, in fathers chart Saturn in most of the cases is situated in 10th house, and 5th house/ lord of 5th house are affected by Mars and Rahu. For Mother it may be 11th house ot 11th lord. For the current case, We find that lord of 3rd and 4th are situated in 9th and lords of 5th and 2nd are situated in 10th house (both are in the sixth place, 4th lord in 6th from it's sign, and 5th in 10th). If we go to the date of conception the the moon and Mars must be travelling in the house where there is sight of Rahu, or in the constellation of Rahu. ( this happens only in the case of mother and father have above combinations.) For present case, similar effect is found, Moon was travelling in Scorpio, and Mars in Rahu's Constellation, and may be in the 7th place from Rahu in Navamansha. About the Chart of Mother and father no information is given. But I think atleast in Father's chart Saturn may be in 10th house. Now about the longevity, She will live maximum up to Moon sub. ( You have casted chart with Lahiri ayanansha) With Our Ayanansha now Sub of Sun is in force. Moon will start from 31st March 2002. ( Sun's Transit may be in Mars and Sun) Thanks krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, > This is the chart of a mentally retarded girl (mongolism or > 1 x chromosome too much). > Female, born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 21 april 2000 at > 11h49 am - zone 1 - DTS on = 09h49 G.M.T. 4E26 and 50N25 - > ay 23:51 > Asc 2°55 cancer; Sun 7°44 aries; Moon 8°14 scorpio; Mars > 27°22 aries; Mercury 19°48 pisces; Jupiter 20°02 aries; > Venus 24°11 pisces; Saturn 24°06 aries; Rahu 4°46 cancer. > 1.How is it possible to distinguish a mentally retarded > chart from a normal one ? What > houses/planets/points/aspects??? > > 2.She is actually running Saturn main period and Saturn is > lord A for the 12th and the 1st, so considering house B, > results could be linked to the 1st and the 12th. > (Mars,Sun,Jupiter, Saturn in D for the 1st) and (Venus, > Mercury and Moon in D and E for 12th) and Moon D and E for > 8th )Can this signify that she is not going to live long ? > (they usually don't). > Could you clarify please? > Thanks and best regards > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Thank you very much Krushna for your comments; I will study the chart. Thanks also for pointing out the ayanamsa error. I did this chart when the girl was born and this was just after some reformatting of my computer; so I had not made the correction of ayanamsa yet. I will recalculate the chart and also thought about coming Moon sub. Well anyway, I will let you know how things turn out. Thanks once more Margarita -----Original Message----- krushanain [krushanain] Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:46 PM To: Subject: Re: mentally retarded child Dear Margarita, Generally for mentally retarded childs one thing is generally found, the third lord is in fourth house or with fourth lord, and fifth lord is in 2nd house or 2nd lord. Fifth lord makes 6:8 or 2:12 combination with lagna lord. Very rarely we find zero point in sarvastak chart. Rahu generally afflicts the Moon, or Moon is situated in the constellation of Rahu or Ketu. If we go for the chart of conception, Moon and Mars are effected by Rahu, (see in rashi and navamansha chart) Other then these no special symptoms are indicated. If we study the chart of Mother and father, in fathers chart Saturn in most of the cases is situated in 10th house, and 5th house/ lord of 5th house are affected by Mars and Rahu. For Mother it may be 11th house ot 11th lord. For the current case, We find that lord of 3rd and 4th are situated in 9th and lords of 5th and 2nd are situated in 10th house (both are in the sixth place, 4th lord in 6th from it's sign, and 5th in 10th). If we go to the date of conception the the moon and Mars must be travelling in the house where there is sight of Rahu, or in the constellation of Rahu. ( this happens only in the case of mother and father have above combinations.) For present case, similar effect is found, Moon was travelling in Scorpio, and Mars in Rahu's Constellation, and may be in the 7th place from Rahu in Navamansha. About the Chart of Mother and father no information is given. But I think atleast in Father's chart Saturn may be in 10th house. Now about the longevity, She will live maximum up to Moon sub. ( You have casted chart with Lahiri ayanansha) With Our Ayanansha now Sub of Sun is in force. Moon will start from 31st March 2002. ( Sun's Transit may be in Mars and Sun) Thanks krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, > This is the chart of a mentally retarded girl (mongolism or > 1 x chromosome too much). > Female, born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 21 april 2000 at > 11h49 am - zone 1 - DTS on = 09h49 G.M.T. 4E26 and 50N25 - > ay 23:51 > Asc 2°55 cancer; Sun 7°44 aries; Moon 8°14 scorpio; Mars > 27°22 aries; Mercury 19°48 pisces; Jupiter 20°02 aries; > Venus 24°11 pisces; Saturn 24°06 aries; Rahu 4°46 cancer. > 1.How is it possible to distinguish a mentally retarded > chart from a normal one ? What > houses/planets/points/aspects??? > > 2.She is actually running Saturn main period and Saturn is > lord A for the 12th and the 1st, so considering house B, > results could be linked to the 1st and the 12th. > (Mars,Sun,Jupiter, Saturn in D for the 1st) and (Venus, > Mercury and Moon in D and E for 12th) and Moon D and E for > 8th )Can this signify that she is not going to live long ? > (they usually don't). > Could you clarify please? > Thanks and best regards > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Dear Margarita, One more combination for mentally retarded child: 3rd lord in 4th, 4th in 5th and 5th in 2nd house. ( ofcource this is not the case here, but this I give for your further reference) krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Thank you very much Krushna for your comments; I will study the chart. > Thanks also for pointing out the ayanamsa error. I did this chart when the > girl was born and this was just after some reformatting of my computer; so I > had not made the correction of ayanamsa yet. I will recalculate the chart > and also thought about coming Moon sub. Well anyway, I will let you know how > things turn out. > Thanks once more > Margarita > > krushanain [krushanain] > Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:46 PM > > Re: mentally retarded child > > Dear Margarita, > Generally for mentally retarded childs one thing is generally > found, the third lord is in fourth house or with fourth lord, and > fifth lord is in 2nd house or 2nd lord. Fifth lord makes 6:8 or 2:12 > combination with lagna lord. Very rarely we find zero point in > sarvastak chart. Rahu generally afflicts the Moon, or Moon is > situated in the constellation of Rahu or Ketu. > If we go for the chart of conception, Moon and Mars are > effected by Rahu, (see in rashi and navamansha chart) > Other then these no special symptoms are indicated. If we > study the chart of Mother and father, in fathers chart Saturn in most > of the cases is situated in 10th house, and 5th house/ lord of 5th > house are affected by Mars and Rahu. For Mother it may be 11th house > ot 11th lord. > For the current case, We find that lord of 3rd and 4th are > situated in 9th and lords of 5th and 2nd are situated in 10th house > (both are in the sixth place, 4th lord in 6th from it's sign, and 5th > in 10th). > If we go to the date of conception the the moon and Mars must > be travelling in the house where there is sight of Rahu, or in the > constellation of Rahu. ( this happens only in the case of mother and > father have above combinations.) > For present case, similar effect is found, Moon was > travelling in Scorpio, and Mars in Rahu's Constellation, and may be > in the 7th place from Rahu in Navamansha. > About the Chart of Mother and father no information is given. > But I think atleast in Father's chart Saturn may be in 10th house. > > Now about the longevity, She will live maximum up to Moon > sub. ( You have casted chart with Lahiri ayanansha) With Our > Ayanansha now Sub of Sun is in force. Moon will start from 31st March > 2002. ( Sun's Transit may be in Mars and Sun) > Thanks > krushna > > > , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> > wrote: > > Respected Krushna, > > This is the chart of a mentally retarded girl (mongolism or > > 1 x chromosome too much). > > Female, born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 21 april 2000 at > > 11h49 am - zone 1 - DTS on = 09h49 G.M.T. 4E26 and 50N25 - > > ay 23:51 > > Asc 2°55 cancer; Sun 7°44 aries; Moon 8°14 scorpio; Mars > > 27°22 aries; Mercury 19°48 pisces; Jupiter 20°02 aries; > > Venus 24°11 pisces; Saturn 24°06 aries; Rahu 4°46 cancer. > > 1.How is it possible to distinguish a mentally retarded > > chart from a normal one ? What > > houses/planets/points/aspects??? > > > > 2.She is actually running Saturn main period and Saturn is > > lord A for the 12th and the 1st, so considering house B, > > results could be linked to the 1st and the 12th. > > (Mars,Sun,Jupiter, Saturn in D for the 1st) and (Venus, > > Mercury and Moon in D and E for 12th) and Moon D and E for > > 8th )Can this signify that she is not going to live long ? > > (they usually don't). > > Could you clarify please? > > Thanks and best regards > > Margarita > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 OK, thanks Krushna for the combination; I will put it with the others and try to find some charts to look at. It’s interesting to note that the moment of conception is so important. This knowledge is something that got completely lost through the ages and now we are living in a chaotic world. Well !! interesting to reflect on that ! Best regards Margarita -----Original Message----- krushanain [krushanain] Sunday, January 06, 2002 8:25 PM To: Subject: Re: mentally retarded child Dear Margarita, One more combination for mentally retarded child: 3rd lord in 4th, 4th in 5th and 5th in 2nd house. ( ofcource this is not the case here, but this I give for your further reference) krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Thank you very much Krushna for your comments; I will study the chart. > Thanks also for pointing out the ayanamsa error. I did this chart when the > girl was born and this was just after some reformatting of my computer; so I > had not made the correction of ayanamsa yet. I will recalculate the chart > and also thought about coming Moon sub. Well anyway, I will let you know how > things turn out. > Thanks once more > Margarita > > krushanain [krushanain] > Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:46 PM > > Re: mentally retarded child > > Dear Margarita, > Generally for mentally retarded childs one thing is generally > found, the third lord is in fourth house or with fourth lord, and > fifth lord is in 2nd house or 2nd lord. Fifth lord makes 6:8 or 2:12 > combination with lagna lord. Very rarely we find zero point in > sarvastak chart. Rahu generally afflicts the Moon, or Moon is > situated in the constellation of Rahu or Ketu. > If we go for the chart of conception, Moon and Mars are > effected by Rahu, (see in rashi and navamansha chart) > Other then these no special symptoms are indicated. If we > study the chart of Mother and father, in fathers chart Saturn in most > of the cases is situated in 10th house, and 5th house/ lord of 5th > house are affected by Mars and Rahu. For Mother it may be 11th house > ot 11th lord. > For the current case, We find that lord of 3rd and 4th are > situated in 9th and lords of 5th and 2nd are situated in 10th house > (both are in the sixth place, 4th lord in 6th from it's sign, and 5th > in 10th). > If we go to the date of conception the the moon and Mars must > be travelling in the house where there is sight of Rahu, or in the > constellation of Rahu. ( this happens only in the case of mother and > father have above combinations.) > For present case, similar effect is found, Moon was > travelling in Scorpio, and Mars in Rahu's Constellation, and may be > in the 7th place from Rahu in Navamansha. > About the Chart of Mother and father no information is given. > But I think atleast in Father's chart Saturn may be in 10th house. > > Now about the longevity, She will live maximum up to Moon > sub. ( You have casted chart with Lahiri ayanansha) With Our > Ayanansha now Sub of Sun is in force. Moon will start from 31st March > 2002. ( Sun's Transit may be in Mars and Sun) > Thanks > krushna > > > , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> > wrote: > > Respected Krushna, > > This is the chart of a mentally retarded girl (mongolism or > > 1 x chromosome too much). > > Female, born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 21 april 2000 at > > 11h49 am - zone 1 - DTS on = 09h49 G.M.T. 4E26 and 50N25 - > > ay 23:51 > > Asc 2°55 cancer; Sun 7°44 aries; Moon 8°14 scorpio; Mars > > 27°22 aries; Mercury 19°48 pisces; Jupiter 20°02 aries; > > Venus 24°11 pisces; Saturn 24°06 aries; Rahu 4°46 cancer. > > 1.How is it possible to distinguish a mentally retarded > > chart from a normal one ? What > > houses/planets/points/aspects??? > > > > 2.She is actually running Saturn main period and Saturn is > > lord A for the 12th and the 1st, so considering house B, > > results could be linked to the 1st and the 12th. > > (Mars,Sun,Jupiter, Saturn in D for the 1st) and (Venus, > > Mercury and Moon in D and E for 12th) and Moon D and E for > > 8th )Can this signify that she is not going to live long ? > > (they usually don't). > > Could you clarify please? > > Thanks and best regards > > Margarita > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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