retarded child 2

[Guest guest]

Respected Krushna and listmembers,

This is a chart I have since the birth of the child and I

recalculated it. He didn't even move in the womb before

birth and was mentally and physically handicapped at birth.

I lost contact with the family so I don't know how things

are now.

Male born on 11 october 1985 11h40 G.M.T. at Lyon (France)

4E51 - 45N45 - zone 1 - no DST

Asc 18°57 scorpio; Sun 25°24 Virgo; Moon 17°38 Leo; Mars

27°10 Leo; Mercury 8°23 Libra; Jupiter 14°35 Capricorn;

Venus 1°02 Virgo; Saturn 3°14 Scorpio; Rahu 17°29 Aries.

It's interesting to see how the rules for being mentally

retarded mach with this chart :

For birth

The 3th is the 4th lord and the 5th lord is the 2nd . (I

suppose this counts too ?????)

Rahu aspects the Moon in Rashi and Navamsha

Lord of 5th and 1st are in 6/8 relationship in Rashi and

Navamsha

No O points in Sarvashtakavarga

For conception taken somewhere between 9 and 10th of

January 85 (to match birth Moon)

On the 9th Mars is in Rahu constellation

On the 10th Moon is aspected by Mars

In navamsa Moon has sight of Rahu

 

Now picking up the rules applied to the mute female (mail

of 25/03/01) it's interesting to see how houses 1and 4 are

completely spoiled through the aspect of 6th lord Mars with

more points

 

Taking the 1st as B

Lord of E is Mars himself; lord D is the Sun, samdharmi to

Mars and lord A is Mercury conjunct Mars in Navamsha.

Results of the 1st are completely spoiled or he is devoid

of the qualities of this house.

Taking the 4th as B

Lord E is Moon samdharmi to Mars; lord D is Mars again and

lord A Mercury samdharmi to Mars. Again the same situation

as for the 1st.

Taking the 5th as B

Lord E is the Sun, samdharmi to Mars;Lord D is Jupiter no

samdharmi to Mars but Mars is in Jupiter navamsha (don't

know if this counts ???)

Lord A has no relationship with Mars

For the 5th house things are not so bad as for the 1st and

the 4th.

 

Can the cause of the handicap further be seen through other

means, like the Trinshamsa or whatever (some obscure " bad

deeds of the ancestors " ) for example ????

Thanks and best regards

Margarita

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

You are correct the 3rd and 4th lord is Saturn and 5th and 2nd

lord is Jupiter, It means the same thing, as two lords being

samdharmi by situating in one sign.

You are correct, 4th house and 4th lord is effected by Mars 6th

lord.

Date of Conception may be taken as 11th Jan 1985, it you see

the chart with Scorpio acendent, you will find 5th lord (Jupiter) in

Rahi and Navamansha chart is effected by Rahu, and Moon is aspected

by Mars. Mars was travelling in the constellation of 5th lord.

Other things you have given are correct.

Venus main Jupiter sub ( age 4th/ 6 yrs) might have been

difficult for the native.

krushna

 

 

, " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Respected Krushna and listmembers,

> This is a chart I have since the birth of the child and I

> recalculated it. He didn't even move in the womb before

> birth and was mentally and physically handicapped at birth.

> I lost contact with the family so I don't know how things

> are now.

> Male born on 11 october 1985 11h40 G.M.T. at Lyon (France)

> 4E51 - 45N45 - zone 1 - no DST

> Asc 18°57 scorpio; Sun 25°24 Virgo; Moon 17°38 Leo; Mars

> 27°10 Leo; Mercury 8°23 Libra; Jupiter 14°35 Capricorn;

> Venus 1°02 Virgo; Saturn 3°14 Scorpio; Rahu 17°29 Aries.

> It's interesting to see how the rules for being mentally

> retarded mach with this chart :

> For birth

> The 3th is the 4th lord and the 5th lord is the 2nd . (I

> suppose this counts too ?????)

> Rahu aspects the Moon in Rashi and Navamsha

> Lord of 5th and 1st are in 6/8 relationship in Rashi and

> Navamsha

> No O points in Sarvashtakavarga

> For conception taken somewhere between 9 and 10th of

> January 85 (to match birth Moon)

> On the 9th Mars is in Rahu constellation

> On the 10th Moon is aspected by Mars

> In navamsa Moon has sight of Rahu

>

> Now picking up the rules applied to the mute female (mail

> of 25/03/01) it's interesting to see how houses 1and 4 are

> completely spoiled through the aspect of 6th lord Mars with

> more points

>

> Taking the 1st as B

> Lord of E is Mars himself; lord D is the Sun, samdharmi to

> Mars and lord A is Mercury conjunct Mars in Navamsha.

> Results of the 1st are completely spoiled or he is devoid

> of the qualities of this house.

> Taking the 4th as B

> Lord E is Moon samdharmi to Mars; lord D is Mars again and

> lord A Mercury samdharmi to Mars. Again the same situation

> as for the 1st.

> Taking the 5th as B

> Lord E is the Sun, samdharmi to Mars;Lord D is Jupiter no

> samdharmi to Mars but Mars is in Jupiter navamsha (don't

> know if this counts ???)

> Lord A has no relationship with Mars

> For the 5th house things are not so bad as for the 1st and

> the 4th.

>

> Can the cause of the handicap further be seen through other

> means, like the Trinshamsa or whatever (some obscure " bad

> deeds of the ancestors " ) for example ????

> Thanks and best regards

> Margarita

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

For past Karm, we should refer to Dwadashansha chart. For this

case it indictes Chandal yog in the past life (Chandal = an out

caste) In dwadashansha chart Jupiter and the lagna lord Mars are

aspected by Rahu.

krushna

, " krushanain " <krushanain>

wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

> You are correct the 3rd and 4th lord is Saturn and 5th and

2nd

> lord is Jupiter, It means the same thing, as two lords being

> samdharmi by situating in one sign.

> You are correct, 4th house and 4th lord is effected by Mars

6th

> lord.

> Date of Conception may be taken as 11th Jan 1985, it you see

> the chart with Scorpio acendent, you will find 5th lord (Jupiter)

in

> Rahi and Navamansha chart is effected by Rahu, and Moon is aspected

> by Mars. Mars was travelling in the constellation of 5th lord.

> Other things you have given are correct.

> Venus main Jupiter sub ( age 4th/ 6 yrs) might have been

> difficult for the native.

> krushna

>

>

> , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

> wrote:

> > Respected Krushna and listmembers,

> > This is a chart I have since the birth of the child and I

> > recalculated it. He didn't even move in the womb before

> > birth and was mentally and physically handicapped at birth.

> > I lost contact with the family so I don't know how things

> > are now.

> > Male born on 11 october 1985 11h40 G.M.T. at Lyon (France)

> > 4E51 - 45N45 - zone 1 - no DST

> > Asc 18°57 scorpio; Sun 25°24 Virgo; Moon 17°38 Leo; Mars

> > 27°10 Leo; Mercury 8°23 Libra; Jupiter 14°35 Capricorn;

> > Venus 1°02 Virgo; Saturn 3°14 Scorpio; Rahu 17°29 Aries.

> > It's interesting to see how the rules for being mentally

> > retarded mach with this chart :

> > For birth

> > The 3th is the 4th lord and the 5th lord is the 2nd . (I

> > suppose this counts too ?????)

> > Rahu aspects the Moon in Rashi and Navamsha

> > Lord of 5th and 1st are in 6/8 relationship in Rashi and

> > Navamsha

> > No O points in Sarvashtakavarga

> > For conception taken somewhere between 9 and 10th of

> > January 85 (to match birth Moon)

> > On the 9th Mars is in Rahu constellation

> > On the 10th Moon is aspected by Mars

> > In navamsa Moon has sight of Rahu

> >

> > Now picking up the rules applied to the mute female (mail

> > of 25/03/01) it's interesting to see how houses 1and 4 are

> > completely spoiled through the aspect of 6th lord Mars with

> > more points

> >

> > Taking the 1st as B

> > Lord of E is Mars himself; lord D is the Sun, samdharmi to

> > Mars and lord A is Mercury conjunct Mars in Navamsha.

> > Results of the 1st are completely spoiled or he is devoid

> > of the qualities of this house.

> > Taking the 4th as B

> > Lord E is Moon samdharmi to Mars; lord D is Mars again and

> > lord A Mercury samdharmi to Mars. Again the same situation

> > as for the 1st.

> > Taking the 5th as B

> > Lord E is the Sun, samdharmi to Mars;Lord D is Jupiter no

> > samdharmi to Mars but Mars is in Jupiter navamsha (don't

> > know if this counts ???)

> > Lord A has no relationship with Mars

> > For the 5th house things are not so bad as for the 1st and

> > the 4th.

> >

> > Can the cause of the handicap further be seen through other

> > means, like the Trinshamsa or whatever (some obscure " bad

> > deeds of the ancestors " ) for example ????

> > Thanks and best regards

> > Margarita

[Guest guest]

Thank you

Krushna, I will check the conception date

Best regards

Margarita

 

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Message-----

krushanain

[krushanain]

Tuesday, January 08, 2002

7:54 PM

To:

 

Subject:

Re: retarded child 2

 

Dear Margarita,

You are correct the 3rd and 4th lord

is Saturn and 5th and 2nd

lord is Jupiter, It means the same thing, as two lords being

samdharmi by situating in one sign.

You are correct, 4th house and 4th lord is

effected by Mars 6th

lord.

Date of Conception may be taken as 11th Jan

1985, it you see

the chart with Scorpio acendent, you will find 5th lord (Jupiter) in

Rahi and Navamansha chart is effected by Rahu, and Moon is aspected

by Mars. Mars was travelling in the constellation of 5th lord.

Other things you have given are correct.

Venus main Jupiter sub ( age 4th/ 6 yrs)

might have been

difficult for the native.

krushna

 

 

, " dmlettens "

<dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Respected Krushna and listmembers,

> This is a chart I have since the birth of the child and I

> recalculated it. He didn't even move in the womb before

> birth and was mentally and physically handicapped at birth.

> I lost contact with the family so I don't know how things

> are now.

> Male born on 11 october 1985 11h40 G.M.T. at Lyon (France)

> 4E51 - 45N45 - zone 1 - no DST

> Asc 18°57 scorpio; Sun 25°24 Virgo; Moon 17°38 Leo; Mars

> 27°10 Leo; Mercury 8°23 Libra; Jupiter 14°35 Capricorn;

> Venus 1°02 Virgo; Saturn 3°14 Scorpio; Rahu 17°29 Aries.

> It's interesting to see how the rules for being mentally

> retarded mach with this chart :

> For birth

> The 3th is the 4th lord and the 5th lord is the 2nd . (I

> suppose this counts too ?????)

> Rahu aspects the Moon in Rashi and Navamsha

> Lord of 5th and 1st are in 6/8 relationship in Rashi and

> Navamsha

> No O points in Sarvashtakavarga

> For conception taken somewhere between 9 and 10th of

> January 85 (to match birth Moon)

> On the 9th Mars is in Rahu constellation

> On the 10th Moon is aspected by Mars

> In navamsa Moon has sight of Rahu

>

> Now picking up the rules applied to the mute female (mail

> of 25/03/01) it's interesting to see how houses 1and 4 are

> completely spoiled through the aspect of 6th lord Mars with

> more points

>

> Taking the 1st as B

> Lord of E is Mars himself; lord D is the Sun, samdharmi to

> Mars and lord A is Mercury conjunct Mars in Navamsha.

> Results of the 1st are completely spoiled or he is devoid

> of the qualities of this house.

> Taking the 4th as B

> Lord E is Moon samdharmi to Mars; lord D is Mars again and

> lord A Mercury samdharmi to Mars. Again the same situation

> as for the 1st.

> Taking the 5th as B

> Lord E is the Sun, samdharmi to Mars;Lord D is Jupiter no

> samdharmi to Mars but Mars is in Jupiter navamsha (don't

> know if this counts ???)

> Lord A has no relationship with Mars

> For the 5th house things are not so bad as for the 1st and

> the 4th.

>

> Can the cause of the handicap further be seen through other

> means, like the Trinshamsa or whatever (some obscure " bad

> deeds of the ancestors " ) for example ????

> Thanks and best regards

> Margarita

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

OK, Thanks

Krushna, I will try to remember this rule

Best

regards

Margarita

 

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Message-----

krushanain

[krushanain]

Tuesday, January 08, 2002

8:12 PM

To:

 

Subject:

Re: retarded child 2

 

Dear Margarita,

For past Karm, we should refer to

Dwadashansha chart. For this

case it indictes Chandal yog in the past life (Chandal = an out

caste) In dwadashansha chart Jupiter and the lagna lord Mars are

aspected by Rahu.

krushna

, " krushanain "

<krushanain>

wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

> You are correct the 3rd and

4th lord is Saturn and 5th and

2nd

> lord is Jupiter, It means the same thing, as two lords being

> samdharmi by situating in one sign.

> You are correct, 4th house and 4th

lord is effected by Mars

6th

> lord.

> Date of Conception may be taken as

11th Jan 1985, it you see

> the chart with Scorpio acendent, you will find 5th lord (Jupiter)

in

> Rahi and Navamansha chart is effected by Rahu, and Moon is aspected

> by Mars. Mars was travelling in the constellation of 5th lord.

> Other things you have given are

correct.

> Venus main Jupiter sub ( age 4th/

6 yrs) might have been

> difficult for the native.

> krushna

>

>

> , " dmlettens "

<dmlettens@s...>

> wrote:

> > Respected Krushna and listmembers,

> > This is a chart I have since the birth of the child and I

> > recalculated it. He didn't even move in the womb before

> > birth and was mentally and physically handicapped at birth.

> > I lost contact with the family so I don't know how things

> > are now.

> > Male born on 11 october 1985 11h40 G.M.T. at Lyon (France)

> > 4E51 - 45N45 - zone 1 - no DST

> > Asc 18°57 scorpio; Sun 25°24 Virgo; Moon 17°38 Leo; Mars

> > 27°10 Leo; Mercury 8°23 Libra; Jupiter 14°35 Capricorn;

> > Venus 1°02 Virgo; Saturn 3°14 Scorpio; Rahu 17°29 Aries.

> > It's interesting to see how the rules for being mentally

> > retarded mach with this chart :

> > For birth

> > The 3th is the 4th lord and the 5th lord is the 2nd . (I

> > suppose this counts too ?????)

> > Rahu aspects the Moon in Rashi and Navamsha

> > Lord of 5th and 1st are in 6/8 relationship in Rashi and

> > Navamsha

> > No O points in Sarvashtakavarga

> > For conception taken somewhere between 9 and 10th of

> > January 85 (to match birth Moon)

> > On the 9th Mars is in Rahu constellation

> > On the 10th Moon is aspected by Mars

> > In navamsa Moon has sight of Rahu

> >

> > Now picking up the rules applied to the mute female (mail

> > of 25/03/01) it's interesting to see how houses 1and 4 are

> > completely spoiled through the aspect of 6th lord Mars with

> > more points

> >

> > Taking the 1st as B

> > Lord of E is Mars himself; lord D is the Sun, samdharmi to

> > Mars and lord A is Mercury conjunct Mars in Navamsha.

> > Results of the 1st are completely spoiled or he is devoid

> > of the qualities of this house.

> > Taking the 4th as B

> > Lord E is Moon samdharmi to Mars; lord D is Mars again and

> > lord A Mercury samdharmi to Mars. Again the same situation

> > as for the 1st.

> > Taking the 5th as B

> > Lord E is the Sun, samdharmi to Mars;Lord D is Jupiter no

> > samdharmi to Mars but Mars is in Jupiter navamsha (don't

> > know if this counts ???)

> > Lord A has no relationship with Mars

> > For the 5th house things are not so bad as for the 1st and

> > the 4th.

> >

> > Can the cause of the handicap further be seen through other

> > means, like the Trinshamsa or whatever (some obscure " bad

> > deeds of the ancestors " ) for example ????

> > Thanks and best regards

> > Margarita