Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 Respected Krushna, Having some time to spare I thought I would have a go at this chart just to show that I am still very interested in your method. I am still not very good or confident about my knowledge of the method so it is probably incorrect but no doubt you will be able to tell me where I am going wrong. As the client is nearing 30 and still unmarried I thought I would first look at the rues of marriage in Lesson 10 and Lesson 23. In the rues from lesson 10 I could make him with about 70 points which is very low but just enough to allow him to qualify for marriage but it is not likely to be a very happy marriage. From lesson 23 I find there is Jupiter and the 7th lord are in a trine %th) mainly because Jupiter is also the 7th lord.. Venus is alsao in a trine in the Navamsa chart (9th). Finally The strongest significator Jupiter is samdharmi to the 5th lord Saturn. So there are 3 of the rules which are present in this chart. This again is a positive result (for a love match) but only just positive. Venus is very close to the Sun which will make it become malefic, particularly for marriage and Saturn aspecting Venus in the navamsa would tend to delay the marriage. Looking at the point for the 7th house we find that Jupiter is the strongest significator and the Sun is the second Jupiter has 4 points in the 7th while the Sun has only 2 so I tend to think that Jupiter, or one of its samdharmis will be the ruler of the sub - period in which the client will marry. The samdharmis for Jupiter are the Sun, Venus and Saturn. Venus is malefic because of its closeness to the Sun so it is unlikely to be keen to act for the marriage date. The Sun has high points but is very close to Venus and I doubt if it would be keen to act for the marriage date. I am not sure about Saturn but I think the most suitable would be Jupiter iself. Jupiter does aspect house C but it is also lord of " D " and would therefore be keen to signify the timing of the event. The first age at which Jupiter sub-period could act would be at about age 19 but in fact it didn't act then. The next ages would be from 2006 to 2008 and then 2039 to 2041. In the latter case the client would be 66-68 years of age which is too late for even a Saturn delay so I go for the 2006-2008 period. To try and refine the date down a little further I looked at the probable date finder chart and see that with Jupiter and the Sun as the 2 highest point scorers a date is given from Jan 11th to Jan 13th. So I tend to think that the client will egt maried form Jan 11th - 13th in 2007 or 2008 I am not sure which - but at a guess 2007. One further point is that during the checking of the points in Lesson 10 I noted that there is the likelyhood of 2 extramarital affairs. I did not look at the possibilites of divorce. Yours respectfully, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 Hello Peter, Glad to see you are not “melted” yet in the Australian temperatures. Welcome back. I’m glad to see someone else answering so at least I can see what others think or how they reason. I was reading your analysis, which is very “scientific” and well done. Well I chose the Sun sub which comes earlier and I thought with 18 points and lord of E he could do the job ??? Jupiter of course can but this will be rather late. We’ll see what Krushna has to say about the matter. Best regards Margarita -----Original Message----- Peter [petermay] Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:11 AM To: Subject: Marriage chart 020108 Respected Krushna, Having some time to spare I thought I would have a go at this chart just to show that I am still very interested in your method. I am still not very good or confident about my knowledge of the method so it is probably incorrect but no doubt you will be able to tell me where I am going wrong. As the client is nearing 30 and still unmarried I thought I would first look at the rues of marriage in Lesson 10 and Lesson 23. In the rues from lesson 10 I could make him with about 70 points which is very low but just enough to allow him to qualify for marriage but it is not likely to be a very happy marriage. From lesson 23 I find there is Jupiter and the 7th lord are in a trine %th) mainly because Jupiter is also the 7th lord.. Venus is alsao in a trine in the Navamsa chart (9th). Finally The strongest significator Jupiter is samdharmi to the 5th lord Saturn. So there are 3 of the rules which are present in this chart. This again is a positive result (for a love match) but only just positive. Venus is very close to the Sun which will make it become malefic, particularly for marriage and Saturn aspecting Venus in the navamsa would tend to delay the marriage. Looking at the point for the 7th house we find that Jupiter is the strongest significator and the Sun is the second Jupiter has 4 points in the 7th while the Sun has only 2 so I tend to think that Jupiter, or one of its samdharmis will be the ruler of the sub - period in which the client will marry. The samdharmis for Jupiter are the Sun, Venus and Saturn. Venus is malefic because of its closeness to the Sun so it is unlikely to be keen to act for the marriage date. The Sun has high points but is very close to Venus and I doubt if it would be keen to act for the marriage date. I am not sure about Saturn but I think the most suitable would be Jupiter iself. Jupiter does aspect house C but it is also lord of " D " and would therefore be keen to signify the timing of the event. The first age at which Jupiter sub-period could act would be at about age 19 but in fact it didn't act then. The next ages would be from 2006 to 2008 and then 2039 to 2041. In the latter case the client would be 66-68 years of age which is too late for even a Saturn delay so I go for the 2006-2008 period. To try and refine the date down a little further I looked at the probable date finder chart and see that with Jupiter and the Sun as the 2 highest point scorers a date is given from Jan 11th to Jan 13th. So I tend to think that the client will egt maried form Jan 11th - 13th in 2007 or 2008 I am not sure which - but at a guess 2007. One further point is that during the checking of the points in Lesson 10 I noted that there is the likelyhood of 2 extramarital affairs. I did not look at the possibilites of divorce. Yours respectfully, Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Respected Peterji, Thank you very much for your interest in the SA System. You have solved the chart very nicely and covering most of the points. I give my comments in shorts: Venus is FK and also NK. It have lost it's power due to nearness from Sun. Please note that when the sun is near to sun and it is moving in forward direction, it is hidden behind the Sun. If it is retrogated, then it is infront of the sun. When Venus is behind the sun no rays from it. So it looses all it's power. When it is retrogated, means it is in front of Sun, In this case it's rays are diluted due to Rays from sun. in this case Venus became Weak, but there is some effect remains. In the current chart the Venus is nearer to Sun, and is in forward motion. Means it is hidden behind Sun. This indicates native have no effect of Venus, or the FK and NK. Venus is the planet which controls over 7th house as a Karak. At the same time it is karak for 2nd house matters (Family). This thing reduces the interest of the native in both the things. You have dismissed Sun as it is samdharmi to Venus. Sun is lord of 12th house, " E " . and it is treated as eager to give the result. Sun can act as samdharmi to any planet, but will not loose it's own charactor. Now marriage also concerned with 5th and 12th houses in directly. Powerful planets for 7th are Sun, Jupiter and Venus. If we consider their strength for 5th and 12th house, Sun is weak for 12th and Jupiter is weak for 5th house. All these things reduces the happiness of marriage. There is no direct denyal of marriage, Considering the Karaks (FK and NK), I am of the opinion, there may not be any marriage. If any way if the person gets marry, it can be in the Sub of Sun. As delay is indicated it may be in the last 1/3 portion of the Sub period. Sub period of Sun in Rahu = 18X6 = 10 months 24 days. So last 1/3 will be 3 months 18 days. So probable period will be from Nov 2003 to Feb 2004. I can select Jupiter Sun, so date is 12th Jan 2004 to 15th Jan 2004. ( Jupiter, Sun) If this date do not work, then we should consider period found by you. The Venus, is having it's sight on 2nd house, and no way having it's ability to give marriage, If at all it give, it may be in the period Nov. 05 to 15 2003, and Dec 28 2003 to 10th Jan 2004. (jupiter Venus) There is one law, If the lord of Lagna, and lord of Moon sign situated in 7th house with less points, (and) if the lord of 7th situated in 12th house with less points. indicates denial of the marriage. I am confused if these are two seperate laws, and I have club them, because in my notes those are written to gether. ( notes are some 41/42 years old, and at that time my knowedge about the subject???? First half of the law is present here. If it is a complete law, it is giving the effect, If it should be acompanied by the other part, then no effect. Any how your attempt is very good, and is in line with the system. krushna , " Peter " <petermay@p...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, > Having some time to spare I thought I would have a go at this chart just to > show that I am still very interested in your method. I am still not very > good or confident about my knowledge of the method so it is probably > incorrect but no doubt you will be able to tell me where I am going wrong. > As the client is nearing 30 and still unmarried I thought I would first look > at the rues of marriage in Lesson 10 and Lesson 23. In the rues from lesson > 10 I could make him with about 70 points which is very low but just enough > to allow him to qualify for marriage but it is not likely to be a very happy > marriage. From lesson 23 I find there is Jupiter and the 7th lord are in a > trine %th) mainly because Jupiter is also the 7th lord.. Venus is alsao in a > trine in the Navamsa chart (9th). Finally The strongest significator Jupiter > is samdharmi to the 5th lord Saturn. So there are 3 of the rules which are > present in this chart. This again is a positive result (for a love match) > but only just positive. > Venus is very close to the Sun which will make it become malefic, > particularly for marriage and Saturn aspecting Venus in the navamsa would > tend to delay the marriage. > Looking at the point for the 7th house we find that Jupiter is the strongest > significator and the Sun is the second Jupiter has 4 points in the 7th > while the Sun has only 2 so I tend to think that Jupiter, or one of its > samdharmis will be the ruler of the sub - period in which the client will > marry. The samdharmis for Jupiter are the Sun, Venus and Saturn. Venus is > malefic because of its closeness to the Sun so it is unlikely to be keen to > act for the marriage date. The Sun has high points but is very close to > Venus and I doubt if it would be keen to act for the marriage date. I am not > sure about Saturn but I think the most suitable would be Jupiter iself. > Jupiter does aspect house C but it is also lord of " D " and would therefore > be keen to signify the timing of the event. > The first age at which Jupiter sub-period could act would be at about age 19 > but in fact it didn't act then. The next ages would be from 2006 to 2008 and > then 2039 to 2041. In the latter case the client would be 66-68 years of age > which is too late for even a Saturn delay so I go for the 2006-2008 period. > To try and refine the date down a little further I looked at the probable > date finder chart and see that with Jupiter and the Sun as the 2 highest > point scorers a date is given from Jan 11th to Jan 13th. > So I tend to think that the client will egt maried form Jan 11th - 13th in > 2007 or 2008 I am not sure which - but at a guess 2007. > One further point is that during the checking of the points in Lesson 10 I > noted that there is the likelyhood of 2 extramarital affairs. I did not look > at the possibilites of divorce. > > Yours respectfully, > > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Respected Krushna, I am glad that I was still able to do the chart after a fairly long absense and that I was in the main correct. I have one question however " What makes you select the Sun as the indicator before Jupiter?' They both seem to have similar qualifications but the Sun in my worksheet has 21points against the 22points of Jupiter. This is the main reason I chose Jupiter from the two possibilities. Respecfully, Peter Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Respected Peterji, Sun is lord of house " E " for marriage. Lords of D or E are more eager to give the result, if they get chance. krushna , " Peter " <petermay@p...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, > I am glad that I was still able to do the chart after a fairly long absense > and that I was in the main correct. I have one question however " What makes > you select the Sun as the indicator before Jupiter?' They both seem to have > similar qualifications but the Sun in my worksheet has 21points against the > 22points of Jupiter. This is the main reason I chose Jupiter from the two > possibilities. > > Respecfully, > Peter > Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Respected Krushna, I am aware that the Sun was the Lord of " E " therefore eager for marriage but Jupiter ia the Lord of D therefore also eager for marriage. So I still can't understand why you chose Sun before Jupiter when Jupiter had more points than the Sun. Unless of course House " E " is more important for marriage than House " D " . If so this is soething of which I was not aware. Peter Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Hello Peter, I think it can be either lord of D or E, the one who comes first will act first, whatever the nature of the planet Best regards Margarita -----Original Message----- Peter [petermay] Sunday, January 13, 2002 9:28 AM Re: Re: Marriage chart 020108 Respected Krushna, I am aware that the Sun was the Lord of " E " therefore eager for marriage but Jupiter ia the Lord of D therefore also eager for marriage. So I still can't understand why you chose Sun before Jupiter when Jupiter had more points than the Sun. Unless of course House " E " is more important for marriage than House " D " . If so this is soething of which I was not aware. Peter Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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