Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Respected Krushna, I think you must have missed my last letter to you asking for an explanation. I am still not sure why you chose the Sun rather than Jupiter for the sub-period in which the marriage could occur. Summing up the main factors we get. Sun aspects House A Jupiter aspects House C Sun is weak for 12th house Jupiter is weak for 5th House Sun is Lord of " E " Jupiter is Lord of " D " Sun has 21 points in house 7 Jupiter has 22points in house 7 From the above you can see that the two planets are just about exactly balanced except that Jupiter has more points in house 7. Also looking at the points in houses 5 and 12 we can note that Ju is considerably stronger in house 12 than the Sun is in House 5. So from the above I cannot see what made you choose theSun rather than Jupiter. Jupiter has more points in house 7 and they are the lords of " D " and " E " respectively so both keem to make the match of the marriage. I would be keen to know just what was it that makes you choose the Sun rather than Jupiter - it is very puzzeling to me.???. Peter Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Respected Peterji, Pranam, in the chart, Sun is lord of house " E " and Jupiter is lord of house " D " . House D and E are Secondary upchay stan. Lords of these houses are eager to give the result. In the case of these lords we do not consider the points, their lordship of these houses is important. Suppose for a case if Lord of E is having 13 points, Some Planet X is having say 24 points, Lord of D is having 22 points. If the sub of Lord E is coming first, after that sub of D is there, and after that sub of the strongest planet X is there. If the native crosses the age for marriage, if it is delayed, the delayed age in the sub of lord of E, he will get married in the sub of Lord of E, though it is having only 13 points. It should be noted that lords of D and E, if gets chance they will give the result. Perticularly for these lords we do not consider the strength. Now in this case, the native is of 30 years of age, ( please note that it is the first sub dasha after he is legally allowed to get marry.) Or when there was Jupiter sub, he was too young to think of marriage. Now delay is indicated by the aspect of Saturn in navamansha chart on 2nd and the 7th lord, and in rashi chart it is having it's sight on 11th house. So delay is up to 27.5 years, now Jupiter is aspecting on Saturn, which can reduce the delay, upto 24th year of age. Now Sun sub is the first sub period, which can give the result. Please note that the lords of D and E can give the result, if they get chance. They are more eager to give the result. So as soon as they will get the chance, they will give the result. So I have selected Sun to give the result. krushna , " Peter " <petermay@p...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, > I think you must have missed my last letter to you asking for an > explanation. I am still not sure why you chose the Sun rather than Jupiter > for the sub-period in which the marriage could occur. Summing up the main > factors we get. > Sun aspects House A > Jupiter aspects House C > Sun is weak for 12th house > Jupiter is weak for 5th House > Sun is Lord of " E " > Jupiter is Lord of " D " > Sun has 21 points in house 7 > Jupiter has 22points in house 7 > From the above you can see that the two planets are just about exactly > balanced except that Jupiter has more points in house 7. Also looking at the > points in houses 5 and 12 we can note that Ju is considerably stronger in > house 12 than the Sun is in House 5. > So from the above I cannot see what made you choose theSun rather than > Jupiter. Jupiter has more points in house 7 and they are the lords of " D " > and " E " respectively so both keem to make the match of the marriage. > I would be keen to know just what was it that makes you choose the Sun > rather than Jupiter - it is very puzzeling to me.???. > > Peter > Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Dear Krushna, Thank you very much for all these informations. In reading some past messages, I have learnt you sometimes used some houses which are not usual (for the mother etc). So, may I ask you a question? I know you have answer to some parts of this question (children, etc.) in the cours. However, I want to be sure. What should be the HOUSE B if I want to make predictions about: Friends Children (do you make a difference between the 1st child, the 2nd child, etc.). Brothers and sisters (do you make a difference between elder brother and younger brother) Father (what house B to make predicitons about the step-father if the father is died and the mother married again with another man?) Mother (same question) Thanks a lot Denis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Dear Denis, My comments in capital below your questions. , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...> wrote: > Dear Krushna, > > Thank you very much for all these informations. In reading some past > messages, I have learnt you sometimes used some houses which are not usual > (for the mother etc). So, may I ask you a question? I know you have answer > to some parts of this question (children, etc.) in the cours. However, I > want to be sure. > > What should be the HOUSE B if I want to make predictions about: > > Friends 5TH HOUSE AS 'B' > > Children (do you make a difference between the 1st child, the 2nd child, > etc.). NO, FOR MAIL CHART 5TH HOUSE, AND FOR FEMALE CHART 11TH HOUSE. IN THE WORKSHEET, IST CHILD WILL BE IN THE SUB OF 10TH OR 2ND LORD. THEN 2ND WILL BE IN THE SUB OF POWERFUL PLANET. IT INDICATES THE CONCEPTION. > > Brothers and sisters (do you make a difference between elder brother and > younger brother) 3RD HOUSE FOR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. ( IT ALSO INDICATES MOTHER.) 1ST HOUSE , WHICH IS 11TH FROM MOTHER'S HOUSE, AND 3RD FROM THAT ( 1 ST) IS FOR BROTHER/S. > > Father NINTH HOUSE. (what house B to make predicitons about the step-father if the father > is died and the mother married again with another man?) THIS PERSON CAN BE TREATED AS FRIEND OF MOTHER. THIS PERSON IN NO WAY RELATED TO THE NATIVE OF THE CHART, SO NOTHING CAN BE PREDICTED FOR STEP FATHER, FROM THE CHART OF THE NATIVE. tHERE IS NO BLOOD RELATION WITH SUCH PERSON > > Mother (same question) STEP MOTHER MAY BE TREATED AS FATHER'S FRIEND. BUT AGAIN NOTHING CAN BE PREDICTED FOR STEP MOTHER FROM THE CHART. ......KRUSHNA > > Thanks a lot > Denis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Respected Krushna, Thanj you very much for your very clear explanation. Now that it has been explained I will be able to apply the principle in other charts at a later date. Another exercise chart would be a good thing at this time as I do have spare time to look at them. Peter Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Dear Krushna, Thank you very much for your answers. They are very helpful. If we do not know the right house, we cannot go further! May I ask you the same question for others matters? What is the house B we have to consider for: Exams (to discover the best - and the worst - subperiods to successfully pass an exam) Carrière professionnelle (to discover the subperiods giving promotions and improvments in the same company) Prise d'emploi (to discover the subperiod the native will take a new job, and the subperiods in which he will stop his job, retirement for example) About your answer, I do not understand this phrase " 1ST HOUSE , WHICH IS 11TH FROM MOTHER'S HOUSE, AND > 3RD FROM THAT ( 1 ST) IS FOR BROTHER/S. " Thanks a lot Denis > > younger brother) 3RD HOUSE FOR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. ( IT ALSO > INDICATES MOTHER.) 1ST HOUSE , WHICH IS 11TH FROM MOTHER'S HOUSE, AND > 3RD FROM THAT ( 1 ST) IS FOR BROTHER/S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 Dear Krushna, I have forgotten to translate in English some words in my message. Sorry about this. I send it again. Thank you very much for your answers. They are very helpful. If we do not know the right house, we cannot go further! May I ask you the same question for others matters? What is the house B we have to consider for: EXAMS (to discover the best - and the worst - subperiods to successfully pass an exam) CAREER (to discover the subperiods giving promotions and improvments in the same company) STARTING A NEW JOB(to discover the subperiod the native will take a new job, and the subperiods in which he will stop his job, retirement for example) About your answer, I do not understand this phrase " 1ST HOUSE , WHICH IS 11TH FROM MOTHER'S HOUSE, AND > 3RD FROM THAT ( 1 ST) IS FOR BROTHER/S. " Thanks a lot Denis > > younger brother) 3RD HOUSE FOR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. ( IT ALSO > INDICATES MOTHER.) 1ST HOUSE , WHICH IS 11TH FROM MOTHER'S HOUSE, AND > 3RD FROM THAT ( 1 ST) IS FOR BROTHER/S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 Dear Krushnaji and list members, This is my first attempt. So Please correct my errors. Before I dwelve in this chart, I want to verify if I have filled the spreadsheet right and have got the right lagna and Navamsa. In the spreadsheet, the only planet in 4th house from a planet in rasi is Jupiter with more points from Mars and Mercury. So Mars being more malefic gets the points from Jupiter. Lagna is Capricorn (17.27')and Navamsa is Gemini. Assuming the above is right I shall proceed. Finding out Samdharmis ---------------------- 1) Venus and Sun are Samdharmis as they are both in 4th house 2) Mars and Mercury in 5th house 3) Rahu is samdharmi to Saturn and Jupiter (as it is placed in Pisces) 4) Ketu is samdharmi to Moon and Mercury (being placed in Virgo 9th) 5) Jupiter and Mars are samdharmis (4-10 relationship). Navamsa Considerations for Samdharmi --- 5) Saturn and Mars are Samdharmi as in 10th Navamsa 6) Venus and Ketu are samdharmis 7) Rahu and Moon, Saturn (placed in Navamsa of Aquarius) 8) Ketu is samdharmi to Venus and Sun (placed in leo) Compiling them together. ------------------------ Venus is Samdharmi to Sun, Ketu, Mars (Due to Parivartan) Saturn is samdharmi to Rahu, Mars Jupiter is samdharmi to Rahu Rahu is samdharmi to Jupiter, Saturn, Moon Ketu is samdharmi to Moon, Mercury, Sun, Venus Mercury is samdharmi to Ketu and Mars Mars is samdharmi to Mercury and Saturn. Salient Feature --------------- Parivartan between 4th and 5th lords Venus and Mars. So Venus would give the results of Mars thereby making them Samdharmi.?? Significant Events ------------------ Event : Joined first service on 14th May 1988. Vimshottari Dasa Period runing : Rahu/Rahu. Rahu is samdharmi to Jupiter, Saturn and Moon. Transit of Sun : ?? Intellegence : Rasi : Lagna is Saturn sign Navamsa : Moon is in Shani's Navamsa Drekkhana : None in shani's Drekkhana Trimsamsa : None in Shani's Trimamsa Result : Low - Average Intellegence. (Am not too sure???) For Job : 6th and 11th house to be considered. (House B). Analysis : Strong planets in 6th and 11th furnishes can bring job or a new venture. For 6th house Jupiter furbishes 26 points (2nd highest) For 11th house Jupiter furbishes 24 points (2nd highest). All planets are strong except Venus, Saturn for 6th and 11th house and in 6th house in addition to Venus and Saturn, Sun is also weak. Planets Aspecting A, B, C in 6th and 11th house are Moon, Mars and Mercury for 11th house Sun, Venus for 6th house. Since Moon is also samdharmi to Rahu it will not deliver results. Contention is now between Jupiter and Saturn. Saturn is located in house D for 6th house Jupiter is located in house E for 11th house. Both are eager to give results. Since Rahu is samdharmi to Guru and Shani, Rahu's sub will deliver the results of a job. Incidently, Rahu and Shani are in House E of the 10th house. Quality of Job : Is given by House C. House C for 6th house has 29 points and for 11th house it has 33 points. Hence the job can be good (relative to intellegence). Event 2 ------- Promotion : October 1997. Vimshottari Dasa Period runing : Rahu/Mercury Mercury is Samdharmi to Ketu and Mars. Transit of Sun : ?? Mercury is good for all houses and just mildly malefic for the 5th house. Analysis : Promotion would mean increase in position. That can be identified by the 6th house and in work i.e. 10th house. If there is increase in income then it should also be giving good points for 11th house. House under consideration : 6th, 10th and 11th (House B) Mercury furnishes 15 points for house B, 20 points for house 11 and 13 points for house 10. Plus in general it gives good points for all house so one can predict that the antr dasa of mercury will give over all happiness. Planets aspecting houses A, B and C for 6th, 10th and 11th are For 6th house : Sun and Venus For 10th house : Sun, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn For 11th house : Moon, Mars and Mercury. Since Shani is aspecting then Last Promotion will be in last quarter of Mercury Antar and is checked by Jupiter so in Middle portion of Mercury Antardasa. Hence 1997 as Mercury Antra starts 1996 and ends in 1998. Since Shani and Guru are aspecting 10th house hence no promotion in the antardasa of these planets. Since Mercury is aspecting the 11th house then what about raise or rise in income ????????? **************** How to predict this need asistance ???? Event 3 : Marriage ------------------ All planets are giving good results for the 7th house. Mars furnishes the highest points for the 7th house. It is in parivartan with the Venus hence it will give results of Venus and it is a samdharmi to Venus. Venus furbishes 18 points in house 7, 5 for 2nd house, 8 for house 11. Mars furbishes 38 points for house 7, 34 points for 2nd house and 39 for house 11. *************************************************************** Question When there exists a parivartan how should the points be treated. Should we treate the points of Mars for Venus ?????? *************************************************************** Mars is eager to give results since its in parivartan Mars will act like Venus and hence Venus will be eager to give results for 2nd house and 7th house being lords of house D and house E for 12th house. Venus is also lord of 12th from 11th house hence it would mean loss of bed pleasure or a seperation from wife. Venus is benefic for 12th house matters and will deliver the results like journey. It is also benefic for 5th house matters and 8th house matters. Planets aspecting A,B and C for 7th, 2nd and 11th house 7th house : Mars, Mercury and Jupiter 2nd house : Jupiter and Saturn 11th house : Moon, Mars and Mercury. Since also Mars is aspecting 7th and 11th house, again Venus being its samdharmi can come forwared to give results. On December 11th 1999. Marriage was in Mars and Mercury (from probable date finder). ******************************************************************* Question. Mars furnishes the highest points for 7th and Jupiter the 2nd highest. So Ideally it should be in Mars, Jupiter i.e. from November 16th through November 19th. Why did the marriage take place on December 11th ???? ******************************************************************* Child : 19th January 2000. Vimshottari Dasa Period runing : Rahu/Venus Venus is Samdharmi to Sun, Ketu, Mars (Due to Parivartan) For Children we examine the 5th house. Except for Mars and Venus all other planets give malefic results for 5th house. Mars and Venus are samdharmi, and whichever comes first will deliver the child. For 5th house Shani and Venus are eager to give results. Venus is also eager to give results being lord of house E for 12th house. ******************************************************************** Mars is 12th lord for 5th house and 12th house. It is in parivartan with Venus ??? How is this to be treated. ******************************************************************** I shall answer the question about job and future prediction of job in the next email. Please correct my mistakes. Cheers !!! Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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