Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 Dear List members, Here is a chart, given in some other group for rectification of the birth time. Some events of the life are given, as Follows: D.O.B. 1st April 1930. Birth Time 06:00am IST (GMT +5.5) Place Ernaculam 10N00, 76E15. Krushna's Ayanansha : 21:52:11 Events given are as follows: 1) Date of first Employment: 31st Dec 1953, 2) Date of Marriage 15th Nov 1954. 3) First Son born: 29th Nov 1955. 4) Got heart problem in 1978 5) Death of Father 9th March 1976. 6) Death of Mother 24th Sept 1984. 7) Retired from Service 1st May 1981. 8) Good Income. 9) he have written some books. I have rectified the birth time of this native as 07:07:35 am. which gives Arises Ascendent. Plese see how the events matches and are in line with the system. In that group, no body have given any clarification or reasoning, but fixed he should be having Aquarius ascendent, No reasoning is given. Please see, how the events are in line with the points in the worksheet. When all the events are satisfying the the period, and dasha as per the points, it means it is a proofe of the accuracy of the system. krushna Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Dear Krushnaji and List Members, Here is my attempt at this chart. Lagna : Aries 0.44 degress Navamsa : Aries Drekkhena : Aries Trimsamsa : Aries. Intellegence : Rasi : Lagna lord is in a saturnian sign, Moon in lagna sign. Navamsa : None Drekkhana : None Trimsamsa : None. This would indicated a person with average intellegence. ??? All the above divisional charts have aries lagna and Venus in them. This could indicated a person with Venusian qualities that would dominate. ??? Events ------ 1) Date of First Employment on 30th December 1953. Dasa : Sun/Jupiter. Jupiter is with 7 points in 2nd house. From worksheet : Jupiter gets highest points for 5th house. Functional Karak and Natural Karak is Jupiter. House Lord of house D is Venus. i.e. 2nd house. Jupiter with 7 points in 2nd house becomes samdharmi to lord of 2nd house Venus. can come forward to deliver results. Jupiter's Antra runs for 10 months from 25-06-53 thru 09-04-1954. Since Jupiter is not aspected by Saturn in Rasi and is aspected by Saturn in Navamsa so moderate delay in its sub. Pushed to 2nd trimester. Sun should be transitting Jupiter and Venus as Jupiter and Venus receive highest and second highest points. This happens between December 29th and January 10th. Event 2 ------- Date of Marriage : 15th November 1954. Dasa : Sun/Saturn. House under Focus : 7th house. All planets except Mars and Venus are benefic for 7th house affairs. Lords of D = Moon and E = Jupiter. Saturn is a powerful significator to Sun and Mercury being in 4:10 relationship thereby becoming samdharmi. So it can come forward to give results when it gets a chance. Narrowing down results. Saturns antra runs from 09-04-1954 thru 17-03-1955. Sun should be transitting constellation of powerful planets. In this case powerful significators for 7th house are Moon and Sun. There is no occurance of Sun and Moon together. If I take the next in row i.e. Moon and Jupiter I get period of Marriage between July 17th and July 19th. ************************************************************ Hence results dont match as per event regarding the date. What am I doing wrong here ???? ************************************************************** Event 3 ------- Son Born : 29th November 1955. Dasa : Sun/Mercury. Conceptions : Sun/Saturn. For Male chart stdying 5th house for children. Lords of House D and E are Venus and Saturn. Saturn is eager to give results and hence conception would take place in the Saturn Antra. Merucry furnishes good points for House A, B and C. Event 4. -------- Event : Heart Problem in 1978. Dasa : Rahu/Jupiter Do not have knowlege about this. Events relating to Death, I still do not have enough knowledge. Event 7 ------- Event : Retirement from Service : 1st May 1981. Dasa : Rahu/Saturn House Focus : 8th house. Saturn is samdharmi to Mercury and Sun. Lords of D and E Sun and Mars. Hence Saturn can come forward to give results of retirement. Event 8 ------- General : Good Income. All planets except Sun and Jupiter give good points for 11th house. in SAV 11th house has 37 points and its very strong. 6th house has 31 points showing good employment status, 32 points in 10th house could give position of power, and 12th house has 27 points which is much lower than 11th house thereby indicating overall savings. Jupiter in 2nd house in Rasi would indicate good potential for income forming a dhan yoga. Event 9 ------- General : Writer. House under focus : 3rd house. SAV points in 3rd house is only 25. All planets in 3rd house except Mercury and Venus are benefic. I do not know if this is enough for writing abilities and become a writer. Please correct my mistakes. I have marked some areas where I need clarifications with ???. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , krushna jugalkalani <krushanain> wrote: > Dear List members, > Here is a chart, given in some other group for > rectification of the birth time. Some events of the > life are given, as Follows: > D.O.B. 1st April 1930. > Birth Time 06:00am IST (GMT +5.5) > Place Ernaculam 10N00, 76E15. > Krushna's Ayanansha : 21:52:11 > Events given are as follows: > 1) Date of first Employment: 31st Dec 1953, > 2) Date of Marriage 15th Nov 1954. > 3) First Son born: 29th Nov 1955. > 4) Got heart problem in 1978 > 5) Death of Father 9th March 1976. > 6) Death of Mother 24th Sept 1984. > 7) Retired from Service 1st May 1981. > 8) Good Income. > 9) he have written some books. > I have rectified the birth time of this native > as 07:07:35 am. which gives Arises Ascendent. > Plese see how the events matches and are in > line with the system. > In that group, no body have given any > clarification or reasoning, but fixed he should be > having Aquarius ascendent, No reasoning is given. > Please see, how the events are in line with the points > in the worksheet. When all the events are satisfying > the the period, and dasha as per the points, it means > it is a proofe of the accuracy of the system. > krushna > > > > > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! > http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Dear Krushna, This last two weeks I have been very busy due to illness of my wife. She is much better now and I will have a go at Chart 020205. To draw up this chart I used the rectified time you had given of 07:07:35am giving a lagna of Arie4s 04:06. 1) Date of first employment.31st Dec 1953 Me and Ve are the highest point scorers in the worksheet for House10 and are also Lords of E and D. As the Sun is samdharmi to Me it fits very well that his first job should fall in the sub-period of the Sun. 2)Date of Marriage 15Nov 1954 Looking at the 7th house for marriage the highest point scorers in the worksheet are Sa and the Mo with 27 and 21. As the Mo is Lord of D it is very suitable that the marriage should be in a sub-period of the Mo 3)First Son born 29th Nov 1955 The highest point scorers in the worksheet for the 5th house of children are Sa and Ju. As Sa is also the lord of E it could be expected to fall in this sub-period. Unfortunately the next sub-period of Sa is not for another 4-5years after the marriage and there is no indication of delay for house 5. The next best point scorer Ju with 22points .It is not lord of either D or E but it is both the Functional and Natural Karaka for Children in this chart and therefore can act for children. The Moon is a samdharmi to Ju in both rasi and navamsa charts so it is the most suitable sub-period for the first child t be born. 4)Got heart problems in 1978 This one I had great difficulty with. For one thing I am not sure which House represents the heart. From my books I found that most agreed that th 4th house represented the heart as did the Sun and Leo. Others gave the 5th house as representing the heart.In the 4th house the Sun shows as bad withonly 11points and at the same time Me which is samdharmi to the Sun is lord of the 12th also being in a bad position for the chart. I think that this would be sufficient to cause the heart problems in the sub-period of Mercury and mahadas of Sa which is both functional and natural karaka for the heart in this chart. 5)Death of Father 9th Mar 1976 For this I looked at the 4th house (8th from the 9th). Saturn is the Nk and FK for this house and it has 25 points in the worksheet so it seems to me that a Sa/Sa period is the best time for the death of the father particularly as Saturn also represents the father. If it were not for the last factor I would be looking at Mars which has very high points in this houses and is Lord of D. 6) Death of Mother 24th Sept 1984 For death of the mother I looked at the 11th house (8th from the 4th). This also was difficult as both Mars and Sa have high points 41 and 24. Both these planets represent a masculine centred event which is not the case and Mars also aspects house A and Sa aspects house B.The next point scorer is the Moon with 17 points, it is also lord of E and is therefore suitable for the mothers death to fall in its sub-period. 7) Retired form service 1st May 1981 I have no idea how to do this. Your help would be appreciated Krushna. 8)He Has good income. the zig zag nature of D,B,C,and E show that he will be in service and not be runninghis own business. D and B show that he has the capacity to work hard. The 11th and 12th indicate that he will not have higher expenses than income so he can problably save some but the fact that both houses have the same points may indicate that he will live just up to his income. The second house shows that he will not inherit from his parents so that all his income must come from his profession. I would also like help on this one please Krushnan. 9)He has written some books. I would also like some help on this one as the 3rd house for writing books has very low points 23 and in this house the planet which represents writing, Mercury has only 3 points which to me would indicate that he would not write any books. Could you pleas explain Krushnan. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Dear List Members, Deliberately I have given a time, 07:07:XX. This chat was given for rectifying the birth time. In other list, senior members have given Aquarius ascendence, and no explaination was given. With our system, all the events should be justified, as per significators and Dasha. I am glad, some of our members have pointed out, and put question mark. When we are rectifying the birth time, we must consider, How mistake can be made in birth time. Sun rise and sun set, Mid day etc are very prominent time, any body can remember. If the birth is before sun rise, it means there was dark. So there is very less possibilty, to say the time after sun rise. Sun rise for the place of birth on that day was at 06:26. So any elderly person, can remember that the birth was before sun rise. I deliberately given the time after sun rise. While rectifying the birth time, we should consider all the events as well as such things. So in this case the birth time must be before sun rise. Before 5:22am it is Aquarius Lagna, and after that Pisces lagna. The events given are mostly having date. Only heart problem is given vague, only year is given. So all the events with date should match with the dasha and the significator. He have written some books, so 10th lord should be related to Jupiter, 2nd house and 4th house should have something with Jupiter. Some more clues: After his retirement he have joined Mahesh Yogy's Ashram. He is a good palmist and astrologer. Can we rectify the birth time now? krushna krushna , krushna jugalkalani <krushanain> wrote: > Dear List members, > Here is a chart, given in some other group for > rectification of the birth time. Some events of the > life are given, as Follows: > D.O.B. 1st April 1930. > Birth Time 06:00am IST (GMT +5.5) > Place Ernaculam 10N00, 76E15. > Krushna's Ayanansha : 21:52:11 > Events given are as follows: > 1) Date of first Employment: 31st Dec 1953, > 2) Date of Marriage 15th Nov 1954. > 3) First Son born: 29th Nov 1955. > 4) Got heart problem in 1978 > 5) Death of Father 9th March 1976. > 6) Death of Mother 24th Sept 1984. > 7) Retired from Service 1st May 1981. > 8) Good Income. > 9) he have written some books. > I have rectified the birth time of this native > as 07:07:35 am. which gives Arises Ascendent. > Plese see how the events matches and are in > line with the system. > In that group, no body have given any > clarification or reasoning, but fixed he should be > having Aquarius ascendent, No reasoning is given. > Please see, how the events are in line with the points > in the worksheet. When all the events are satisfying > the the period, and dasha as per the points, it means > it is a proofe of the accuracy of the system. > krushna > > > > > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! > http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2002 Report Share Posted February 17, 2002 Dear List members, Ms Margarita, Ash, Respected Peterji, have tried to solve this chart. Every body have taken rectified time given by me to be correct, I was thinking some body will correct it. Probably, every body is taking my word as perfect, So In future I will not give such thing. Peterji have taken wrong date of birth. Others two have find the difficiencies in the events. So I must say a very nice attempt. Rectifying the birth time, is of cource a difficult job and requires very hard work, to check charts with every minit difference of time. Just today I have received a chart, Some years before, I have seen the native at very young age say hardly of 3/4 years. That chart was not matching with the native. Then I enquired with her father, is there any possibility of change in time. Then he told me this chart was rectifyed by some body. He was unable to tell any thing. Mother of the native also confused, and a difference of four days was possible, even in the date. I have pointed out because I have seen the native. We say this system is very accurate, then all the events of the life should match with the chart. I agree, there may be some portion of the science, which have not came to the light. If we go through this chart, this native must have born at 06:28 Am. Now if we consider the events, they are as follows. 1) First Employment: 31:12:53 On 4th Jan 54 Jupiter Sub starts, Only a difference of 4 days, and Jupiter is having highest points 24. ( We agree there is a difference upto 13 to 18 days is experienced, either we should say, Next dasha starts operating or effecting when one dasha is at the end. ) this is in very permissible limit. 2) The native married in the sub of Saturn Lord of E also with highest points. 3) First Child, in Mercury sub, 29th 11 55, Mercury sub starts on Oct 4 55, so conception must be in Saturn Sub, and Saturn is situated in house E with 4 points. 4) Hearth Problem: in 1978, Jupiter Sub, Heart attack we consider as a accident, so 7th house, Jupiter have 0 point for 7th. and 24 for 6th, so recovered. 5) Death of Father 09:3:76 Rahu /Rahu sub. Rahu represents Mars, lord of E. (Jupiter in 12th from 4th, with 6 points, venus being lord of 3rd, and Sun and Mercury being samdharmi to Jupiter can not give the result) 6)Death of Mother 24:09:84 Mercury sub lord of D. 7) Retirement from Service Saturn sub 1:05:81, Saturn Sub, which is not good for 10th, 11th, or 12th. 8) Good Income: 28:31:36:33, can give good income, with authority. From Sun and Moon similar points. 9) Jupiter in 3rd with more points gives some qualities for writing. 10) Lagna, Sun and Moon,in Rashi, Navamansha, and Trishansha are in the div of Jupiter, So inclination to wards spirituality. krushna > Here is a chart, given in some other group for > rectification of the birth time. Some events of the > life are given, as Follows: > D.O.B. 1st April 1930. > Birth Time 06:00am IST (GMT +5.5) > Place Ernaculam 10N00, 76E15. > Krushna's Ayanansha : 21:52:11 > Events given are as follows: > 1) Date of first Employment: 31st Dec 1953, > 2) Date of Marriage 15th Nov 1954. > 3) First Son born: 29th Nov 1955. > 4) Got heart problem in 1978 > 5) Death of Father 9th March 1976. > 6) Death of Mother 24th Sept 1984. > 7) Retired from Service 1st May 1981. > 8) Good Income. > 9) he have written some books. > I have rectified the birth time of this native > as 07:07:35 am. which gives Arises Ascendent. > Plese see how the events matches and are in > line with the system. > In that group, no body have given any > clarification or reasoning, but fixed he should be > having Aquarius ascendent, No reasoning is given. > Please see, how the events are in line with the points > in the worksheet. When all the events are satisfying > the the period, and dasha as per the points, it means > it is a proofe of the accuracy of the system. > krushna > > > > > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! > http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2002 Report Share Posted February 17, 2002 Respected Krushna, Is not the chart you have given the same as the last chart which we all had atry at (when I got the date wrong)? If so what is the point in trying again for the same chart?. At least the date of birth and your rectification of it are the same as are most of the life events. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 REspected Peterji, Pranam, The date of joining the service was a problem. so rectified. krushna > Is not the chart you have given the same as the last chart which we all had > atry at (when I got the date wrong)? > If so what is the point in trying again for the same chart?. > At least the date of birth and your rectification of it are the same as are > most of the life events. > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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