Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Respected Krushnaji, I have the chart of a person whose parents were divorced at a very early age. His details are as follows: Date of birth - 27th March 1975 Time of Birth - 3:32 AM DST - on Time Zone - GMT-5 73W55 41N42 I am enclosing the summary sheet for this chart. Though I see that the 9th house has low points as well as 4 planets with low points, is this enough to explain his living without a father? How else do we see this event from the rules of the AV system? kind regards Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Dear Sanjay, While feeding in the work sheet, you might have put Jupiter in 3rd house. Which should be in 4th house. The points changes. Ofcourse for ninth house Sun 9, Moon 0, Mars 10, Mercury 4 are having less points. He saperated from his father in Moon Main Period, which gives only 0 points. Moon is 12th lord from 9th house. 4th house which can denote seperation from Father (or death of Father) Saturn is having the maximum points. So divorce might have been in the sub of Saturn ( 3 to 5 years age) Jupiter is lord of D, may give dispute. From the work sheet it gets confirmed that the person do not have happiness from father. Three planets are having good points, Saturn, Venus and Jupiter. Out of these, Jupiter is lord of D for 4th house, Saturn is having more points for 4th and Venus is 6th lord, and aspecting 11th. 11th house is longevity of father, or we can say long term happiness from father, Sixth lord aspects this house with more points. ( Person gets separated with the person or things, denoted by the house on which the 6th lord aspects with more points. Again Saturn is Natural samdharmi to Venus. It can be observed that all the planets deny the happiness from father. So Rahu and Ketu also. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > I have the chart of a person whose parents were divorced at a very early > age. His details are as follows: > > Date of birth - 27th March 1975 > Time of Birth - 3:32 AM > DST - on > Time Zone - GMT-5 > 73W55 41N42 > > I am enclosing the summary sheet for this chart. > > Though I see that the 9th house has low points as well as 4 planets with low > points, is this enough to explain his living without a father? > > How else do we see this event from the rules of the AV system? > > kind regards > Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Respected Krushnaji, Thank you for the answers. I see that there are some new rules to learn from this, namely that the aspect of 6th lord with more points is very bad for the person indicated by the chart. I have the chart of another person. The date is June 1, 1959. The time is 4:30 AM and the place is Ludhiana, India. This is the chart of a girl who has been married since 9th July 1980. Her father died on 11th December 1974. If I take the time as given, then the father died because the 6th lord, Venus, was aspecting the 9th house with 6 points. The sub was that of Saturn which has the highest points for 4th house, and is lord of E. It is also lord of B for 9th placed in the 12th from 9th. As such, the death is explained as per the system. However, the marriage happened in the sub of Jupiter. Jupiter is one of the significators. the other is Sun but all other planets have less than 12 points. Jupiter cannot give marriage as it is aspecting 11th house. How do we explain this. If I change the time to 4:20, then the ascendant changes to Aries. Now Jupiter becomes the strongest significator for the 7th house. All planets except Sun become strong. However, Jupiter is aspected by 6th lord Mercury. Can this Jupiter still give marriage? Jupiter aspects A but since this is the lord of E, the aspect does not stop it from giving marriage. For death of father, I seem to have a problem. The lord of the 9th is still 12th from 9th so the house loses. however, the death in the sub of Saturn makes it the weakest significator with only 7 points. How could that give death? So I can explain one event with one time and another with another time but not both with the same time. Can you please guide me on how to choose in this? Kind regards Sanjay PS - I am enclosing the summary sheets for both time. - " krushanain " <krushanain Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:46 AM Re: example chart Dear Sanjay, While feeding in the work sheet, you might have put Jupiter in 3rd house. Which should be in 4th house. The points changes. Ofcourse for ninth house Sun 9, Moon 0, Mars 10, Mercury 4 are having less points. He saperated from his father in Moon Main Period, which gives only 0 points. Moon is 12th lord from 9th house. 4th house which can denote seperation from Father (or death of Father) Saturn is having the maximum points. So divorce might have been in the sub of Saturn ( 3 to 5 years age) Jupiter is lord of D, may give dispute. From the work sheet it gets confirmed that the person do not have happiness from father. Three planets are having good points, Saturn, Venus and Jupiter. Out of these, Jupiter is lord of D for 4th house, Saturn is having more points for 4th and Venus is 6th lord, and aspecting 11th. 11th house is longevity of father, or we can say long term happiness from father, Sixth lord aspects this house with more points. ( Person gets separated with the person or things, denoted by the house on which the 6th lord aspects with more points. Again Saturn is Natural samdharmi to Venus. It can be observed that all the planets deny the happiness from father. So Rahu and Ketu also. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > I have the chart of a person whose parents were divorced at a very early > age. His details are as follows: > > Date of birth - 27th March 1975 > Time of Birth - 3:32 AM > DST - on > Time Zone - GMT-5 > 73W55 41N42 > > I am enclosing the summary sheet for this chart. > > Though I see that the 9th house has low points as well as 4 planets with low > points, is this enough to explain his living without a father? > > How else do we see this event from the rules of the AV system? > > kind regards > Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 respected Krushnaji, I sent this yesterday but it has not appeared in the list of messages. Therefore sending again for your comments. Kind regards Sanjay - " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001 Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:06 PM Re: Re: example chart Respected Krushnaji, Thank you for the answers. I see that there are some new rules to learn from this, namely that the aspect of 6th lord with more points is very bad for the person indicated by the chart. I have the chart of another person. The date is June 1, 1959. The time is 4:30 AM and the place is Ludhiana, India. This is the chart of a girl who has been married since 9th July 1980. Her father died on 11th December 1974. If I take the time as given, then the father died because the 6th lord, Venus, was aspecting the 9th house with 6 points. The sub was that of Saturn which has the highest points for 4th house, and is lord of E. It is also lord of B for 9th placed in the 12th from 9th. As such, the death is explained as per the system. However, the marriage happened in the sub of Jupiter. Jupiter is one of the significators. the other is Sun but all other planets have less than 12 points. Jupiter cannot give marriage as it is aspecting 11th house. How do we explain this. If I change the time to 4:20, then the ascendant changes to Aries. Now Jupiter becomes the strongest significator for the 7th house. All planets except Sun become strong. However, Jupiter is aspected by 6th lord Mercury. Can this Jupiter still give marriage? Jupiter aspects A but since this is the lord of E, the aspect does not stop it from giving marriage. For death of father, I seem to have a problem. The lord of the 9th is still 12th from 9th so the house loses. however, the death in the sub of Saturn makes it the weakest significator with only 7 points. How could that give death? So I can explain one event with one time and another with another time but not both with the same time. Can you please guide me on how to choose in this? Kind regards Sanjay PS - I am enclosing the summary sheets for both time. - " krushanain " <krushanain Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:46 AM Re: example chart Dear Sanjay, While feeding in the work sheet, you might have put Jupiter in 3rd house. Which should be in 4th house. The points changes. Ofcourse for ninth house Sun 9, Moon 0, Mars 10, Mercury 4 are having less points. He saperated from his father in Moon Main Period, which gives only 0 points. Moon is 12th lord from 9th house. 4th house which can denote seperation from Father (or death of Father) Saturn is having the maximum points. So divorce might have been in the sub of Saturn ( 3 to 5 years age) Jupiter is lord of D, may give dispute. From the work sheet it gets confirmed that the person do not have happiness from father. Three planets are having good points, Saturn, Venus and Jupiter. Out of these, Jupiter is lord of D for 4th house, Saturn is having more points for 4th and Venus is 6th lord, and aspecting 11th. 11th house is longevity of father, or we can say long term happiness from father, Sixth lord aspects this house with more points. ( Person gets separated with the person or things, denoted by the house on which the 6th lord aspects with more points. Again Saturn is Natural samdharmi to Venus. It can be observed that all the planets deny the happiness from father. So Rahu and Ketu also. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > I have the chart of a person whose parents were divorced at a very early > age. His details are as follows: > > Date of birth - 27th March 1975 > Time of Birth - 3:32 AM > DST - on > Time Zone - GMT-5 > 73W55 41N42 > > I am enclosing the summary sheet for this chart. > > Though I see that the 9th house has low points as well as 4 planets with low > points, is this enough to explain his living without a father? > > How else do we see this event from the rules of the AV system? > > kind regards > Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 dEAR sANJAY, Yes from two days, the massage in the group is delayed. Better to confirm from group activity, under post, If it is accepted there then it will reach in the group may be late. Regarding sixth lord I think it is already covered in the lessons, some where. Marriage can be in the sub of weak significator, if there is no happiness in marrital life. In the present case Venus is ahead of 43 degrees from Sun, and is in the aspect of Saturn in navamansha, again Mars is with Venus and in navamansha it is in the sight of Saturn, this reduces the happiness in marriage. In such case marriage may be in any planet, may not be happy. again Mars lord of E is giving Zero for 7th house. For Last Chart: In the last chart given by you, similar thing is there, Sun Venus is more then 43 Degrees, So the native may have more then 4/5 extra marrital relations. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > respected Krushnaji, > > I sent this yesterday but it has not appeared in the list of messages. > Therefore sending again for your comments. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > - > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> > > Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:06 PM > Re: Re: example chart > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thank you for the answers. I see that there are some new rules to learn from > this, namely that the aspect of 6th lord with more points is very bad for > the person indicated by the chart. > > I have the chart of another person. The date is June 1, 1959. The time is > 4:30 AM and the place is Ludhiana, India. This is the chart of a girl who > has been married since 9th July 1980. Her father died on 11th December 1974. > > If I take the time as given, then the father died because the 6th lord, > Venus, was aspecting the 9th house with 6 points. The sub was that of Saturn > which has the highest points for 4th house, and is lord of E. It is also > lord of B for 9th placed in the 12th from 9th. As such, the death is > explained as per the system. > > However, the marriage happened in the sub of Jupiter. Jupiter is one of the > significators. the other is Sun but all other planets have less than 12 > points. Jupiter cannot give marriage as it is aspecting 11th house. How do > we explain this. > > If I change the time to 4:20, then the ascendant changes to Aries. Now > Jupiter becomes the strongest significator for the 7th house. All planets > except Sun become strong. However, Jupiter is aspected by 6th lord Mercury. > Can this Jupiter still give marriage? Jupiter aspects A but since this is > the lord of E, the aspect does not stop it from giving marriage. > > For death of father, I seem to have a problem. The lord of the 9th is still > 12th from 9th so the house loses. however, the death in the sub of Saturn > makes it the weakest significator with only 7 points. How could that give > death? > > So I can explain one event with one time and another with another time but > not both with the same time. Can you please guide me on how to choose in > this? > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > PS - I am enclosing the summary sheets for both time. > - > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:46 AM > Re: example chart > > > Dear Sanjay, > While feeding in the work sheet, you might have put Jupiter > in 3rd house. Which should be in 4th house. The points changes. > Ofcourse for ninth house Sun 9, Moon 0, Mars 10, Mercury 4 are having > less points. He saperated from his father in Moon Main Period, which > gives only 0 points. Moon is 12th lord from 9th house. 4th house > which can denote seperation from Father (or death of Father) Saturn > is having the maximum points. So divorce might have been in the sub > of Saturn ( 3 to 5 years age) Jupiter is lord of D, may give dispute. > From the work sheet it gets confirmed that the person do > not have happiness from father. Three planets are having good points, > Saturn, Venus and Jupiter. Out of these, Jupiter is lord of D for 4th > house, Saturn is having more points for 4th and Venus is 6th lord, > and aspecting 11th. 11th house is longevity of father, or we can say > long term happiness from father, Sixth lord aspects this house with > more points. ( Person gets separated with the person or things, > denoted by the house on which the 6th lord aspects with more points. > Again Saturn is Natural samdharmi to Venus. > It can be observed that all the planets deny the happiness > from father. So Rahu and Ketu also. > krushna > > > , " Sanjay Jaggia " > <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > I have the chart of a person whose parents were divorced at a very > early > > age. His details are as follows: > > > > Date of birth - 27th March 1975 > > Time of Birth - 3:32 AM > > DST - on > > Time Zone - GMT-5 > > 73W55 41N42 > > > > I am enclosing the summary sheet for this chart. > > > > Though I see that the 9th house has low points as well as 4 planets > with low > > points, is this enough to explain his living without a father? > > > > How else do we see this event from the rules of the AV system? > > > > kind regards > > Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Respected Krushnaji, Thank you for the answers but the interpretations as given do not seem to fit into what I know of the person. Not only is the person very religious and thus not into any affairs, she is also happily married. Perhaps the time is incorrect. I will check again. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushanain " <krushanain Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:52 PM Fw: Re: example chart dEAR sANJAY, Yes from two days, the massage in the group is delayed. Better to confirm from group activity, under post, If it is accepted there then it will reach in the group may be late. Regarding sixth lord I think it is already covered in the lessons, some where. Marriage can be in the sub of weak significator, if there is no happiness in marrital life. In the present case Venus is ahead of 43 degrees from Sun, and is in the aspect of Saturn in navamansha, again Mars is with Venus and in navamansha it is in the sight of Saturn, this reduces the happiness in marriage. In such case marriage may be in any planet, may not be happy. again Mars lord of E is giving Zero for 7th house. For Last Chart: In the last chart given by you, similar thing is there, Sun Venus is more then 43 Degrees, So the native may have more then 4/5 extra marrital relations. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > respected Krushnaji, > > I sent this yesterday but it has not appeared in the list of messages. > Therefore sending again for your comments. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > - > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> > > Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:06 PM > Re: Re: example chart > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thank you for the answers. I see that there are some new rules to learn from > this, namely that the aspect of 6th lord with more points is very bad for > the person indicated by the chart. > > I have the chart of another person. The date is June 1, 1959. The time is > 4:30 AM and the place is Ludhiana, India. This is the chart of a girl who > has been married since 9th July 1980. Her father died on 11th December 1974. > > If I take the time as given, then the father died because the 6th lord, > Venus, was aspecting the 9th house with 6 points. The sub was that of Saturn > which has the highest points for 4th house, and is lord of E. It is also > lord of B for 9th placed in the 12th from 9th. As such, the death is > explained as per the system. > > However, the marriage happened in the sub of Jupiter. Jupiter is one of the > significators. the other is Sun but all other planets have less than 12 > points. Jupiter cannot give marriage as it is aspecting 11th house. How do > we explain this. > > If I change the time to 4:20, then the ascendant changes to Aries. Now > Jupiter becomes the strongest significator for the 7th house. All planets > except Sun become strong. However, Jupiter is aspected by 6th lord Mercury. > Can this Jupiter still give marriage? Jupiter aspects A but since this is > the lord of E, the aspect does not stop it from giving marriage. > > For death of father, I seem to have a problem. The lord of the 9th is still > 12th from 9th so the house loses. however, the death in the sub of Saturn > makes it the weakest significator with only 7 points. How could that give > death? > > So I can explain one event with one time and another with another time but > not both with the same time. Can you please guide me on how to choose in > this? > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > PS - I am enclosing the summary sheets for both time. > - > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:46 AM > Re: example chart > > > Dear Sanjay, > While feeding in the work sheet, you might have put Jupiter > in 3rd house. Which should be in 4th house. The points changes. > Ofcourse for ninth house Sun 9, Moon 0, Mars 10, Mercury 4 are having > less points. He saperated from his father in Moon Main Period, which > gives only 0 points. Moon is 12th lord from 9th house. 4th house > which can denote seperation from Father (or death of Father) Saturn > is having the maximum points. So divorce might have been in the sub > of Saturn ( 3 to 5 years age) Jupiter is lord of D, may give dispute. > From the work sheet it gets confirmed that the person do > not have happiness from father. Three planets are having good points, > Saturn, Venus and Jupiter. Out of these, Jupiter is lord of D for 4th > house, Saturn is having more points for 4th and Venus is 6th lord, > and aspecting 11th. 11th house is longevity of father, or we can say > long term happiness from father, Sixth lord aspects this house with > more points. ( Person gets separated with the person or things, > denoted by the house on which the 6th lord aspects with more points. > Again Saturn is Natural samdharmi to Venus. > It can be observed that all the planets deny the happiness > from father. So Rahu and Ketu also. > krushna > > > , " Sanjay Jaggia " > <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > I have the chart of a person whose parents were divorced at a very > early > > age. His details are as follows: > > > > Date of birth - 27th March 1975 > > Time of Birth - 3:32 AM > > DST - on > > Time Zone - GMT-5 > > 73W55 41N42 > > > > I am enclosing the summary sheet for this chart. > > > > Though I see that the 9th house has low points as well as 4 planets > with low > > points, is this enough to explain his living without a father? > > > > How else do we see this event from the rules of the AV system? > > > > kind regards > > Sanjay _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 dEAR sANJAY, This prediction was for male, by that time I was not knowing the sex, and I considered as male. This can not apply for female. Krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thank you for the answers but the interpretations as given do not seem to > fit into what I know of the person. Not only is the person very religious > and thus not into any affairs, she is also happily married. > > Perhaps the time is incorrect. I will check again. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > - > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:52 PM > Fw: Re: example chart > > > dEAR sANJAY, > Yes from two days, the massage in the group is delayed. Better > to confirm from group activity, under post, If it is accepted there > then it will reach in the group may be late. > Regarding sixth lord I think it is already covered in the > lessons, some where. > Marriage can be in the sub of weak significator, if there is > no happiness in marrital life. In the present case Venus is ahead of > 43 degrees from Sun, and is in the aspect of Saturn in navamansha, > again Mars is with Venus and in navamansha it is in the sight of > Saturn, this reduces the happiness in marriage. > In such case marriage may be in any planet, may not be happy. > again Mars lord of E is giving Zero for 7th house. > > For Last Chart: > In the last chart given by you, similar thing is there, Sun Venus is > more then 43 Degrees, So the native may have more then 4/5 extra > marrital relations. > krushna > > , " Sanjay Jaggia " > <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > > respected Krushnaji, > > > > I sent this yesterday but it has not appeared in the list of > messages. > > Therefore sending again for your comments. > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > - > > " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> > > > > Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:06 PM > > Re: Re: example chart > > > > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > Thank you for the answers. I see that there are some new rules to > learn from > > this, namely that the aspect of 6th lord with more points is very > bad for > > the person indicated by the chart. > > > > I have the chart of another person. The date is June 1, 1959. The > time is > > 4:30 AM and the place is Ludhiana, India. This is the chart of a > girl who > > has been married since 9th July 1980. Her father died on 11th > December 1974. > > > > If I take the time as given, then the father died because the 6th > lord, > > Venus, was aspecting the 9th house with 6 points. The sub was that > of Saturn > > which has the highest points for 4th house, and is lord of E. It is > also > > lord of B for 9th placed in the 12th from 9th. As such, the death is > > explained as per the system. > > > > However, the marriage happened in the sub of Jupiter. Jupiter is > one of the > > significators. the other is Sun but all other planets have less > than 12 > > points. Jupiter cannot give marriage as it is aspecting 11th house. > How do > > we explain this. > > > > If I change the time to 4:20, then the ascendant changes to Aries. > Now > > Jupiter becomes the strongest significator for the 7th house. All > planets > > except Sun become strong. However, Jupiter is aspected by 6th lord > Mercury. > > Can this Jupiter still give marriage? Jupiter aspects A but since > this is > > the lord of E, the aspect does not stop it from giving marriage. > > > > For death of father, I seem to have a problem. The lord of the 9th > is still > > 12th from 9th so the house loses. however, the death in the sub of > Saturn > > makes it the weakest significator with only 7 points. How could > that give > > death? > > > > So I can explain one event with one time and another with another > time but > > not both with the same time. Can you please guide me on how to > choose in > > this? > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > PS - I am enclosing the summary sheets for both time. > > - > > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > > > Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:46 AM > > Re: example chart > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > While feeding in the work sheet, you might have put Jupiter > > in 3rd house. Which should be in 4th house. The points changes. > > Ofcourse for ninth house Sun 9, Moon 0, Mars 10, Mercury 4 are > having > > less points. He saperated from his father in Moon Main Period, which > > gives only 0 points. Moon is 12th lord from 9th house. 4th house > > which can denote seperation from Father (or death of Father) Saturn > > is having the maximum points. So divorce might have been in the sub > > of Saturn ( 3 to 5 years age) Jupiter is lord of D, may give > dispute. > > From the work sheet it gets confirmed that the person do > > not have happiness from father. Three planets are having good > points, > > Saturn, Venus and Jupiter. Out of these, Jupiter is lord of D for > 4th > > house, Saturn is having more points for 4th and Venus is 6th lord, > > and aspecting 11th. 11th house is longevity of father, or we can say > > long term happiness from father, Sixth lord aspects this house with > > more points. ( Person gets separated with the person or things, > > denoted by the house on which the 6th lord aspects with more points. > > Again Saturn is Natural samdharmi to Venus. > > It can be observed that all the planets deny the happiness > > from father. So Rahu and Ketu also. > > krushna > > > > > > , " Sanjay Jaggia " > > <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > I have the chart of a person whose parents were divorced at a very > > early > > > age. His details are as follows: > > > > > > Date of birth - 27th March 1975 > > > Time of Birth - 3:32 AM > > > DST - on > > > Time Zone - GMT-5 > > > 73W55 41N42 > > > > > > I am enclosing the summary sheet for this chart. > > > > > > Though I see that the 9th house has low points as well as 4 > planets > > with low > > > points, is this enough to explain his living without a father? > > > > > > How else do we see this event from the rules of the AV system? > > > > > > kind regards > > > Sanjay > > > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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