Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 Dear Krushna, I have a trouble with lesson 20. Three months ago, I gave my mother's chart : 13 décember 1932, 20h45 TU, Montbrison (45N36 004E03). Ascendant 28°45 Cancer. I was born on 24th october 1956. In the messages of the list, this demonstration has been made: conception took place in the Kethu subperiod. Kethu is placed in Leo (ruled by Sun). Sun doesn't aspect the houses A, B or C. (However, it is placed in house B). Sun gets 16 points in the worksheet (when house B is used). OK. BUT according to the lesson 20, we have to take the 11th house - not the 5 th house - in a female chart. So, we cannot go along this line. Am I wrong? As soon as I'll get your answer, I'll go further in this chart. I have two brothers. One was born on 13 october 1957. The other was born on 6th july 1965. No other brother or sister. No abortion. Yours views about timing these two births should be really appreciated. Thanks a lot Denis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Denis, For Female we take 11th house, for child birth. taking 11th house in your mother's chart 4th becames house " E " and lord is Venus. 6th house is house A, Lord is Jupiter, and 8th house is house D and lord is Saturn. You born in Ketu sub ( coception in the same period, Ketu = Sun + Venus. Venus lord of E. Your brother born on 13th Oct 57 in Venus Sub again in the sub of lord of house E. other brother born on 6th July 1965. in the sub of Saturn lord of house D. All children are having conception in Sub of lord D or E. krushna , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...> wrote: > > Dear Krushna, > > I have a trouble with lesson 20. > > Three months ago, I gave my mother's chart : 13 d飥mber 1932, 20h45 TU, > Montbrison (45N36 004E03). Ascendant 28 45 Cancer. > > I was born on 24th october 1956. > > In the messages of the list, this demonstration has been made: conception > took place in the Kethu subperiod. Kethu is placed in Leo (ruled by Sun). > Sun doesn't aspect the houses A, B or C. (However, it is placed in house B). > Sun gets 16 points in the worksheet (when house B is used). > > OK. BUT according to the lesson 20, we have to take the 11th house - not the > 5 th house - in a female chart. So, we cannot go along this line. > > Am I wrong? > > As soon as I'll get your answer, I'll go further in this chart. I have two > brothers. One was born on 13 october 1957. The other was born on 6th july > 1965. No other brother or sister. No abortion. Yours views about timing > these two births should be really appreciated. > > Thanks a lot > Denis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Krushna, Thank you for your answer. I was born in the sub of Venus, not Kethu. Asq I was conceived in the Kethu sub, it doesn't make any différence. In my mother's chart, was it possible to predict she would have onbly boys, no girls? I have used the rules given in the lesson. * Sun is in the 5th house, with 4 points. So, it cannot be helpful to know the gender of children. * Mercury is in the 5th house with 5 points. According to lesson 20, " If Mercury in 5th with more points and not having malefic sight of Saturn or Jupiter, happiness regarding children is more " . However, it doesn't help to get the gender. * Mars is aspecting the 5th house. Mars has 6 points. So, its aspect is malefic. I do not know the result of Mars ASPECTING the 5th house. But its malefic aspect cannot give boys. Is there anything I have not understood? Thanks a lot Denis PS: Dear Krushna, I shall be not there for two days. So, you will have a little bit of rest! -- Pour des renseignements sur les séminaires, les consultations et les cours par correspondance, ainsi que pour des logiciels et des leçons d'astrologie gratuits, visitez mon site : www.astrocours.fr.st - " krushanain " <krushanain Friday, March 29, 2002 6:45 PM Re: Childbirth and houses Dear Denis, For Female we take 11th house, for child birth. taking 11th house in your mother's chart 4th becames house " E " and lord is Venus. 6th house is house A, Lord is Jupiter, and 8th house is house D and lord is Saturn. You born in Ketu sub ( coception in the same period, Ketu = Sun + Venus. Venus lord of E. Your brother born on 13th Oct 57 in Venus Sub again in the sub of lord of house E. other brother born on 6th July 1965. in the sub of Saturn lord of house D. All children are having conception in Sub of lord D or E. krushna , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...> wrote: > > Dear Krushna, > > I have a trouble with lesson 20. > > Three months ago, I gave my mother's chart : 13 d飥mber 1932, 20h45 TU, > Montbrison (45N36 004E03). Ascendant 28 45 Cancer. > > I was born on 24th october 1956. > > In the messages of the list, this demonstration has been made: conception > took place in the Kethu subperiod. Kethu is placed in Leo (ruled by Sun). > Sun doesn't aspect the houses A, B or C. (However, it is placed in house B). > Sun gets 16 points in the worksheet (when house B is used). > > OK. BUT according to the lesson 20, we have to take the 11th house - not the > 5 th house - in a female chart. So, we cannot go along this line. > > Am I wrong? > > As soon as I'll get your answer, I'll go further in this chart. I have two > brothers. One was born on 13 october 1957. The other was born on 6th july > 1965. No other brother or sister. No abortion. Yours views about timing > these two births should be really appreciated. > > Thanks a lot > Denis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 Dear Denis, The sex of the child is as per the position of Sun and Moon on the date of Conception and the age of the mother. It is covered in some lesson. Points in 3,6,10th and 11 are also responsible for male or female child. krushna , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...> wrote: > Dear Krushna, > > Thank you for your answer. > > I was born in the sub of Venus, not Kethu. Asq I was conceived in the Kethu > sub, it doesn't make any diffé²¥nce. > > In my mother's chart, was it possible to predict she would have onbly boys, > no girls? I have used the rules given in the lesson. > > * Sun is in the 5th house, with 4 points. So, it cannot be helpful to know > the gender of children. > > * Mercury is in the 5th house with 5 points. According to lesson 20, " If > Mercury in 5th with more points and not having malefic sight of Saturn or > Jupiter, happiness regarding children is more " . However, it doesn't help to > get the gender. > > * Mars is aspecting the 5th house. Mars has 6 points. So, its aspect is > malefic. I do not know the result of Mars ASPECTING the 5th house. But its > malefic aspect cannot give boys. > > > Is there anything I have not understood? > > Thanks a lot > Denis > > PS: Dear Krushna, I shall be not there for two days. So, you will have a > little bit of rest! > -- > Pour des renseignements sur les sé©naires, les consultations et les > cours par correspondance, ainsi que pour des logiciels et des le篮s > d'astrologie gratuits, visitez mon site : > www.astrocours.fr.st > - > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > Friday, March 29, 2002 6:45 PM > Re: Childbirth and houses > > > Dear Denis, > For Female we take 11th house, for child birth. > taking 11th house in your mother's chart 4th becames house " E " and > lord is Venus. 6th house is house A, Lord is Jupiter, and 8th house > is house D and lord is Saturn. > You born in Ketu sub ( coception in the same period, Ketu = Sun + > Venus. Venus lord of E. > Your brother born on 13th Oct 57 in Venus Sub again in the sub of > lord of house E. > other brother born on 6th July 1965. in the sub of Saturn lord of > house D. > All children are having conception in Sub of lord D or E. > krushna > > , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Krushna, > > > > I have a trouble with lesson 20. > > > > Three months ago, I gave my mother's chart : 13 d飥mber 1932, 20h45 > TU, > > Montbrison (45N36 004E03). Ascendant 28 45 Cancer. > > > > I was born on 24th october 1956. > > > > In the messages of the list, this demonstration has been made: > conception > > took place in the Kethu subperiod. Kethu is placed in Leo (ruled by > Sun). > > Sun doesn't aspect the houses A, B or C. (However, it is placed in > house B). > > Sun gets 16 points in the worksheet (when house B is used). > > > > OK. BUT according to the lesson 20, we have to take the 11th house - > not the > > 5 th house - in a female chart. So, we cannot go along this line. > > > > Am I wrong? > > > > As soon as I'll get your answer, I'll go further in this chart. I > have two > > brothers. One was born on 13 october 1957. The other was born on > 6th july > > 1965. No other brother or sister. No abortion. Yours views about > timing > > these two births should be really appreciated. > > > > Thanks a lot > > Denis > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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