Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 Respected Krushna, listmembers, Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these losses were all due to circumstances not related to his competence. I find it an interesting chart because the points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This gives for Rashi : Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all houses except 1 and 8. He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is causing trouble. Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like Saturn ? Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. Best regards Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 Dear Margarita, It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will represent Sun, more then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn gets 2 points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets more points. Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and less like Saturn. krushna " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > gives for Rashi : > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > houses except 1 and 8. > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > causing trouble. > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > Saturn ? > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > Best regards > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Thank you so much Krushna for the feed back. Here I learned something more about how the nodes function Best regards Margarita krushanain [krushanain] Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:04 PM Re: job/occupation Dear Margarita, It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will represent Sun, more then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn gets 2 points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets more points. Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and less like Saturn. krushna " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > gives for Rashi : > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > houses except 1 and 8. > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > causing trouble. > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > Saturn ? > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > Best regards > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Respected Krushnaji, There seems to be a new rule here. Rahu or Ketu give the results more of the planet which has higher points in the house that Rahu or Ketu might be in. Is this always applicable? Kind regards Sanjay - " krushanain " <krushanain Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:04 AM Re: job/occupation Dear Margarita, It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will represent Sun, more then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn gets 2 points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets more points. Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and less like Saturn. krushna " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > gives for Rashi : > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > houses except 1 and 8. > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > causing trouble. > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > Saturn ? > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > Best regards > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Dear Krushnaji, I would like to add one more question to what Sanjay has asked and that is what If both the planets have equal points what Will Rahu/Ketu favour. If in the example that Margarita gave, what If Sun and Mars (I believe) had equal points then what would Rahu act as ? Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > There seems to be a new rule here. Rahu or Ketu give the results more of the > planet which has higher points in the house that Rahu or Ketu might be in. > > Is this always applicable? > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > - > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:04 AM > Re: job/occupation > > > Dear Margarita, > It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will represent Sun, more > then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn gets 2 > points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets more points. > Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and less like > Saturn. > krushna > > > " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > gives for Rashi : > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > houses except 1 and 8. > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > causing trouble. > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > Saturn ? > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Hello Ash, It was Sun or Saturn. Sun having more points, Rahu will act for Sun more than for Saturn. This is also new for me, perhaps because we have associations like Rahu=Saturn and Ketu=Mars . Who knows ? In this system thinks seem to work in a different manner (all to do with points) Best regards Margarita ashsam73 [ashsam73] Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:45 PM Re: job/occupation Dear Krushnaji, I would like to add one more question to what Sanjay has asked and that is what If both the planets have equal points what Will Rahu/Ketu favour. If in the example that Margarita gave, what If Sun and Mars (I believe) had equal points then what would Rahu act as ? Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > There seems to be a new rule here. Rahu or Ketu give the results more of the > planet which has higher points in the house that Rahu or Ketu might be in. > > Is this always applicable? > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > - > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:04 AM > Re: job/occupation > > > Dear Margarita, > It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will represent Sun, more > then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn gets 2 > points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets more points. > Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and less like > Saturn. > krushna > > > " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > gives for Rashi : > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > houses except 1 and 8. > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > causing trouble. > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > Saturn ? > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Hi Margarita, Yes, Im sorry, it is Saturn and not Mars as per your example. Yes, thats what quizes me. When doing the spread sheet, if there are more that 1 planets in the 10th place from a planet then the points that the planet receives is based on 1) More malefic planet i.e. with less bindus, 2) If 2 planets have the same bindus then the planet that is more malefic to the sign lord is the one to receive the points, so there is some relation to the sign and its lord that the planet is placed in. Thats what brought me to this question, that if 2 planets that Rahu represents or is samdharmi to (sign lord and the nakshatra lord) from the post of Krushnaji its clear that the planet that has more bindus, its influence would dominate and Rahu would act or favour the results of the planet with more bindu, but what if 2 planets have the same bindus, then what would Rahu represent ? Maybe Krushnaji can enlighten us on this point. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash ps : Good to see your postings, Ive always learnt a lot from them. , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > It was Sun or Saturn. Sun having more points, Rahu will act > for Sun more than for Saturn. This is also new for me, > perhaps because we have associations like Rahu=Saturn and > Ketu=Mars . Who knows ? In this system thinks seem to work > in a different manner (all to do with points) > Best regards > Margarita > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:45 PM > > Re: job/occupation > > Dear Krushnaji, > > I would like to add one more question to what Sanjay has > asked and > that is what If both the planets have equal points what > Will > Rahu/Ketu favour. > If in the example that Margarita gave, what If Sun and Mars > (I > believe) had equal points then what would Rahu act as ? > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> > wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > There seems to be a new rule here. Rahu or Ketu give the > results > more of the > > planet which has higher points in the house that Rahu or > Ketu might > be in. > > > > Is this always applicable? > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > - > > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > > > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:04 AM > > Re: job/occupation > > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will > represent Sun, more > > then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn > gets 2 > > points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets > more > points. > > Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and > less like > > Saturn. > > krushna > > > > > > " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a > man > > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that > these > > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these > events. > > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 > at > > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > > gives for Rashi : > > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon > Aries. > > > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for > all > > > houses except 1 and 8. > > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good > points > > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, > but > > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, > so > > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of > april. > > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who > again is > > > causing trouble. > > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. > Rahu > > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's > so > > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue > be, > > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more > like > > > Saturn ? > > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Dear Sanjay, Lessons given here are out of the discussion here. Only initial basic lessons are given to clear the idea. After that other lessons are the result of discussion. If there is any doubt, raised by the members, it may be new or already given is cleared. For Rahu or Ketu, When they represents two planets, some time three, The result will be as per the points aquired by the planets assuming those planets situated there. Here we take every thing by the points of the planets. Similar situation had come in some of the examples, and we have selected Rahu sub, for giving the result, At that time one of the planet was giving good points and other was not giving. unfortunately no body raised this points. Up till now I take it granted that this thing may be clear. Still there are so many points and topics have not been covered. It may come up in due course of time. Dear Sanjay, I have already agreed that I am not a good teacher, Who can teach the subject according to sylabus. (HaHaHa ) But I proud of my self that at least some of the members have followed the system, So I am not a hopeless teacher. (HaHaHa) krushna , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > There seems to be a new rule here. Rahu or Ketu give the results more of the > planet which has higher points in the house that Rahu or Ketu might be in. > > Is this always applicable? > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > - > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:04 AM > Re: job/occupation > > > Dear Margarita, > It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will represent Sun, more > then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn gets 2 > points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets more points. > Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and less like > Saturn. > krushna > > > " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > gives for Rashi : > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > houses except 1 and 8. > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > causing trouble. > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > Saturn ? > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Dear Ash, When two planets are with equal points it is obvious that there will be mixed result, and of equal quantity. In the last case also More points are for Sun and less points for Saturn, result will be mixed in the proportion. Means more beneficial and less malefic. krushna , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji, > > I would like to add one more question to what Sanjay has asked and > that is what If both the planets have equal points what Will > Rahu/Ketu favour. > If in the example that Margarita gave, what If Sun and Mars (I > believe) had equal points then what would Rahu act as ? > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > There seems to be a new rule here. Rahu or Ketu give the results > more of the > > planet which has higher points in the house that Rahu or Ketu might > be in. > > > > Is this always applicable? > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > - > > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > > > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:04 AM > > Re: job/occupation > > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will represent Sun, more > > then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn gets 2 > > points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets more > points. > > Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and less like > > Saturn. > > krushna > > > > > > " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > > gives for Rashi : > > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > > houses except 1 and 8. > > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > > causing trouble. > > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > > Saturn ? > > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Dear Margarita, Yes the natural quality of Rahu is similar to that of Saturn, and taht of Ketu is like Mars. While Considering the results, it is based on the points of the planet for a perticular house. A general tendency of Saturn is to delay, and clean up the last sins, similar is for Rahu. Saturn an Mars are natural malefic, but here we consider the result as per the points. The result in the sub of these planets is as per the points. By sight of Saturn or by situation the result is delayed. This is natural quality. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > It was Sun or Saturn. Sun having more points, Rahu will act > for Sun more than for Saturn. This is also new for me, > perhaps because we have associations like Rahu=Saturn and > Ketu=Mars . Who knows ? In this system thinks seem to work > in a different manner (all to do with points) > Best regards > Margarita > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:45 PM > > Re: job/occupation > > Dear Krushnaji, > > I would like to add one more question to what Sanjay has > asked and > that is what If both the planets have equal points what > Will > Rahu/Ketu favour. > If in the example that Margarita gave, what If Sun and Mars > (I > believe) had equal points then what would Rahu act as ? > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> > wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > There seems to be a new rule here. Rahu or Ketu give the > results > more of the > > planet which has higher points in the house that Rahu or > Ketu might > be in. > > > > Is this always applicable? > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > - > > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > > > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:04 AM > > Re: job/occupation > > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will > represent Sun, more > > then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn > gets 2 > > points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets > more > points. > > Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and > less like > > Saturn. > > krushna > > > > > > " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a > man > > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that > these > > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these > events. > > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 > at > > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > > gives for Rashi : > > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon > Aries. > > > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for > all > > > houses except 1 and 8. > > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good > points > > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, > but > > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, > so > > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of > april. > > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who > again is > > > causing trouble. > > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. > Rahu > > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's > so > > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue > be, > > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more > like > > > Saturn ? > > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Respected Krushnaji, You are very modest. I think in the time you have available, you have given a lot. It is up to us to ask questions and you know that we will keep doing that. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushanain " <krushanain Friday, April 19, 2002 12:54 AM Re: job/occupation Dear Sanjay, Lessons given here are out of the discussion here. Only initial basic lessons are given to clear the idea. After that other lessons are the result of discussion. If there is any doubt, raised by the members, it may be new or already given is cleared. For Rahu or Ketu, When they represents two planets, some time three, The result will be as per the points aquired by the planets assuming those planets situated there. Here we take every thing by the points of the planets. Similar situation had come in some of the examples, and we have selected Rahu sub, for giving the result, At that time one of the planet was giving good points and other was not giving. unfortunately no body raised this points. Up till now I take it granted that this thing may be clear. Still there are so many points and topics have not been covered. It may come up in due course of time. Dear Sanjay, I have already agreed that I am not a good teacher, Who can teach the subject according to sylabus. (HaHaHa ) But I proud of my self that at least some of the members have followed the system, So I am not a hopeless teacher. (HaHaHa) krushna , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > There seems to be a new rule here. Rahu or Ketu give the results more of the > planet which has higher points in the house that Rahu or Ketu might be in. > > Is this always applicable? > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > - > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:04 AM > Re: job/occupation > > > Dear Margarita, > It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will represent Sun, more > then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn gets 2 > points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets more points. > Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and less like > Saturn. > krushna > > > " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > gives for Rashi : > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > houses except 1 and 8. > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > causing trouble. > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > Saturn ? > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Thank you Krushna for this answer. I understand the difference between " nature " and " result " , but this is a subtle matter indeed. I have to check this in other charts to get the feeling of it. Best regards Margarita krushanain [krushanain] Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:05 PM Re: job/occupation Dear Margarita, Yes the natural quality of Rahu is similar to that of Saturn, and taht of Ketu is like Mars. While Considering the results, it is based on the points of the planet for a perticular house. A general tendency of Saturn is to delay, and clean up the last sins, similar is for Rahu. Saturn an Mars are natural malefic, but here we consider the result as per the points. The result in the sub of these planets is as per the points. By sight of Saturn or by situation the result is delayed. This is natural quality. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > It was Sun or Saturn. Sun having more points, Rahu will act > for Sun more than for Saturn. This is also new for me, > perhaps because we have associations like Rahu=Saturn and > Ketu=Mars . Who knows ? In this system thinks seem to work > in a different manner (all to do with points) > Best regards > Margarita > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:45 PM > > Re: job/occupation > > Dear Krushnaji, > > I would like to add one more question to what Sanjay has > asked and > that is what If both the planets have equal points what > Will > Rahu/Ketu favour. > If in the example that Margarita gave, what If Sun and Mars > (I > believe) had equal points then what would Rahu act as ? > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> > wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > There seems to be a new rule here. Rahu or Ketu give the > results > more of the > > planet which has higher points in the house that Rahu or > Ketu might > be in. > > > > Is this always applicable? > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > - > > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > > > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:04 AM > > Re: job/occupation > > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will > represent Sun, more > > then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn > gets 2 > > points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets > more > points. > > Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and > less like > > Saturn. > > krushna > > > > > > " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a > man > > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that > these > > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these > events. > > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 > at > > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > > gives for Rashi : > > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon > Aries. > > > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for > all > > > houses except 1 and 8. > > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good > points > > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, > but > > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, > so > > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of > april. > > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who > again is > > > causing trouble. > > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. > Rahu > > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's > so > > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue > be, > > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more > like > > > Saturn ? > > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 dEAR sANJAY YOU ARE WELCOME WITH MORE QUESTIONS. KRUSHNA > Respected Krushnaji, > > You are very modest. I think in the time you have available, you have given > a lot. It is up to us to ask questions and you know that we will keep doing > that. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > - > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > Friday, April 19, 2002 12:54 AM > Re: job/occupation > > > Dear Sanjay, > Lessons given here are out of the discussion here. Only initial > basic lessons are given to clear the idea. After that other lessons > are the result of discussion. If there is any doubt, raised by the > members, it may be new or already given is cleared. > For Rahu or Ketu, When they represents two planets, some time > three, The result will be as per the points aquired by the planets > assuming those planets situated there. Here we take every thing by > the points of the planets. > Similar situation had come in some of the examples, and we > have selected Rahu sub, for giving the result, At that time one of > the planet was giving good points and other was not giving. > unfortunately no body raised this points. Up till now I take it > granted that this thing may be clear. > Still there are so many points and topics have not been > covered. It may come up in due course of time. > Dear Sanjay, I have already agreed that I am not a good > teacher, Who can teach the subject according to sylabus. (HaHaHa ) > But I proud of my self that at least some of the members have > followed the system, So I am not a hopeless teacher. (HaHaHa) > krushna > > , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > There seems to be a new rule here. Rahu or Ketu give the results > more of the > > planet which has higher points in the house that Rahu or Ketu might > be in. > > > > Is this always applicable? > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > - > > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > > > Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:04 AM > > Re: job/occupation > > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > It is a good Example chart. Here Rahu will represent Sun, more > > then Saturn. For 4th house Sun gets 4 points and Saturn gets 2 > > points. Rahu is situated in 4th house, and here Sun gets more > points. > > Automatically Rahu will give more result as per Sun and less like > > Saturn. > > krushna > > > > > > " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > > gives for Rashi : > > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > > houses except 1 and 8. > > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > > causing trouble. > > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > > Saturn ? > > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Hello Margarita, Sorry to dig up the past, but a recent message referred back to this message 3510 and got me interested. Could you possibly be more precise about the dates of this man's job gains and losses? (Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25.) When I have time, I'd like to try and see a bit more how the " blocking planets " (lord of 12th from house, here from 10 and 6, i.e. L5 and L9 or equivs, might be involved, and whether a birth time adjustment is still necessary. If it's too much of a hassle or you don't know, no problem. Thanks Graham , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > gives for Rashi : > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > houses except 1 and 8. > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > causing trouble. > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > Saturn ? > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > Best regards > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Thanks for Digging this mail out Graham. It is an interesting chart. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Graham Fox " <fox.graham@w...> wrote: > Hello Margarita, > Sorry to dig up the past, but a recent message referred back to this > message 3510 and got me interested. Could you possibly be more > precise about the dates of this man's job gains and losses? (Male > born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at 11h50 (birth > certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25.) > When I have time, I'd like to try and see a bit more how > the " blocking planets " (lord of 12th from house, here from 10 and 6, > i.e. L5 and L9 or equivs, might be involved, and whether a birth > time adjustment is still necessary. If it's too much of a hassle or > you don't know, no problem. > Thanks > Graham > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > gives for Rashi : > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > houses except 1 and 8. > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > causing trouble. > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > Saturn ? > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > Best regards > > Margarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Hello Graham, For the moment I haven't any more precicse information about the native. I know that herecently he wrote a book but was still without a job. I have found his e mail back and will ask him a biography with dates. He has lived and worked much abroad. It will be an interesting chart to study bacause he also divorced, has two children and married a second time. I also noticed that his asc is at 29° Libra, so I wonder ??? I let you know if I get an ansewer Best regards Margarita Graham Fox wrote: >Hello Margarita, >Sorry to dig up the past, but a recent message referred back to this >message 3510 and got me interested. Could you possibly be more >precise about the dates of this man's job gains and losses? (Male >born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at 11h50 (birth >certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25.) >When I have time, I'd like to try and see a bit more how >the " blocking planets " (lord of 12th from house, here from 10 and 6, >i.e. L5 and L9 or equivs, might be involved, and whether a birth >time adjustment is still necessary. If it's too much of a hassle or >you don't know, no problem. >Thanks >Graham > , " dmlettens " ><dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > gives for Rashi : > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > houses except 1 and 8. > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > causing trouble. > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > Saturn ? > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Thank you, Margarita, look forward to more information if and when possible. Graham , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Graham, > For the moment I haven't any more precicse information about the native. > I know that herecently he wrote a book but was still without a job. > I have found his e mail back and will ask him a biography with dates. He > has lived and worked much abroad. > It will be an interesting chart to study bacause he also divorced, has > two children and married a second time. > I also noticed that his asc is at 29° Libra, so I wonder ??? > I let you know if I get an ansewer > Best regards > Margarita > > Graham Fox wrote: > > >Hello Margarita, > >Sorry to dig up the past, but a recent message referred back to this > >message 3510 and got me interested. Could you possibly be more > >precise about the dates of this man's job gains and losses? (Male > >born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at 11h50 (birth > >certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25.) > >When I have time, I'd like to try and see a bit more how > >the " blocking planets " (lord of 12th from house, here from 10 and 6, > >i.e. L5 and L9 or equivs, might be involved, and whether a birth > >time adjustment is still necessary. If it's too much of a hassle or > >you don't know, no problem. > >Thanks > >Graham > > , " dmlettens " > ><dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > > gives for Rashi : > > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > > houses except 1 and 8. > > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > > causing trouble. > > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > > Saturn ? > > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Hello Graham, I was able to contact the native, or rather his wife and she gave me extensive data. I attached them in a W doc. Now I had not much time to look at the chart but my first impression is : use scorpio asc Don't focus too much on the birth of second child if correct or not, one never knows ....... I noticed his 3 promotions were in march and death of 2 relatives in may. I wish you and others many happy moments with this chart If someone is interested his second wife is born in Paris (France)on June 16th 1955 zone 1, 2E20 and 48N52 at 18h15 Best regards Margarita Graham Fox wrote: >Hello Margarita, >Sorry to dig up the past, but a recent message referred back to this >message 3510 and got me interested. Could you possibly be more >precise about the dates of this man's job gains and losses? (Male >born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at 11h50 (birth >certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25.) >When I have time, I'd like to try and see a bit more how >the " blocking planets " (lord of 12th from house, here from 10 and 6, >i.e. L5 and L9 or equivs, might be involved, and whether a birth >time adjustment is still necessary. If it's too much of a hassle or >you don't know, no problem. >Thanks >Graham > , " dmlettens " ><dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > gives for Rashi : > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > houses except 1 and 8. > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > causing trouble. > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > Saturn ? > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Margarita -- do you mean a Word document? How do I find it? I can't see any attached files anywhere. This has already happened to me -- someone talked about a chart which I couldn't find. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks Graham , margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Hello Graham, > I was able to contact the native, or rather his wife and she gave me > extensive data. I attached them in a W doc. > Now I had not much time to look at the chart but my first impression is > : use scorpio asc > Don't focus too much on the birth of second child if correct or not, > one never knows ....... > I noticed his 3 promotions were in march and death of 2 relatives in may. > I wish you and others many happy moments with this chart > If someone is interested his second wife is born in Paris (France) on > June 16th 1955 zone 1, 2E20 and 48N52 at 18h15 > Best regards > Margarita > > Graham Fox wrote: > > >Hello Margarita, > >Sorry to dig up the past, but a recent message referred back to this > >message 3510 and got me interested. Could you possibly be more > >precise about the dates of this man's job gains and losses? (Male > >born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at 11h50 (birth > >certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25.) > >When I have time, I'd like to try and see a bit more how > >the " blocking planets " (lord of 12th from house, here from 10 and 6, > >i.e. L5 and L9 or equivs, might be involved, and whether a birth > >time adjustment is still necessary. If it's too much of a hassle or > >you don't know, no problem. > >Thanks > >Graham > > , " dmlettens " > ><dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > > Last study chart made me dig ut following chart of a man > > > who who lost three jobs in 3 years time. I know that these > > > losses were all due to circumstances not related to his > > > competence. I find it an interesting chart because the > > > points in the worksheet indicate so clearly these events. > > > Male born in Charleroi (Belgium) on 16 september 1953 at > > > 11h50 (birth certificate) - zone 1 - 4E26 - 50N25. This > > > gives for Rashi : > > > Asc 29° libra-Sun1°04 Virgo-Moon 1°34 Sag.-Mars 8°52 > > > Leo-Mercury 8°45 Virgo-Jupiter 2°57 Gemini-Venus 28°29 > > > Cancer-Saturn 3°34 Libra-Rahu 8°11 Capricorn > > > Navamsha : Asc & mars Gemini-Jupiter Libra-Saturn > > > scorpio-Sun Capricorn-Rahu,Venus & Mercury Pisces-Moon Aries. > > > > > > He lost his job in the middle of 1998 ; this was > > > Mars/Saturn. Saturn has very low points (under 12) for all > > > houses except 1 and 8. > > > He got a new job in Mars/Mercury; Mercury has good points > > > to do this but he lost his job again again in Ketu sub. > > > Ketu is Moon and Saturn. We know Saturn has low points, but > > > Moon is losing her points by sight of 6th lord Jupiter, so > > > loss of job is justified. He got a new job on 1st of > > > September 2001 and lost it again now beginning of april. > > > With slight correction of TOB this is Moon sub who again is > > > causing trouble. > > > Now the native changes dasha and will be in Rahu/Rahu. Rahu > > > will act for Sun and Saturn. Saturn is bad because he's so > > > weak; but Sun can give results. Now how will the issue be, > > > how is Rahu going to act, more like the Sun or more like > > > Saturn ? > > > Thank you for looking at this chart if you have time > > > because I find the nodes tricky to interpret. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Dear Graham, If you have set your settings to receive mail to your email address then you would have got the attachment. does not store any messages any more. So if you log onto Web to check the messages you will not get the attachment. In any case I am copy from the word document and pasting it here...... Cheers !!! Ash Here it goes... Biography native born of 16 september 1953 in Charleroi at 11h50 zone 1 4E26 50N25 First relationship First marriage 31 august 1979 Birth of first child : male on 5th December 1984 Birth of 2nd child : female on 31st may 1991 Separation in November 1994 Divorce effective on 13th October 1995 Second relationship First encounter on 22 november 1988 Love started (as stated by the native) on 16th may 1995 Second marriage (after life together) 3th july 1999 Job related events From January 1981 to 16th September 1988 worked in Insurance company Worked for VERITAS (big company) In Atlanta USA from 17 september 1988 until 30 november 1988 In Montréal (Canada) from November 1988 until July 1989 In Caracas (Venezuela) from august 89 until end of 1989 Carreer interrupted by motor accident in December 1989 till march 1990 In Paris (France) from april 1990 till February 1995 In Mexico D.F. from march 1995 until December 1997 From January 1998 till end of august 1998 without job. Tried to find work in Florida USA but without success Worked for SODEXHO (other company) In Paris from September 1998 until end February 1999 In Tunis (Tunesia) from march 1999 until august 2000 Without job from September 2000 until end of august 2001 Worked for NATIONAL BRITANNIA In the south of France from September 2001 untill april 2002 Without job from may 2002 until june 2003 Tried to set up his own companies without success up to now In September 2003 In October 2003 Promotions March 1990 March 1991 March 1995 Court action due to loss of job Went to court in juin 2002 for loss of job at Sodhexo Claim was discussed in September 2001 Transaction and signature on 30th November (got 4 months of salary as compensation) This amount was paid on 5th of February 2002 Date his book was published February 2004 During the last 2 years, as the native was jobless, he wrote a book. Other dates that the native finds important Death of his brother in law in mai 1996 Death of his father in may 1998 Joined a Masonic temple on 2nd December 1980 Important motor car accident 25th april 1986. Escaped because “he was lucky” --- Graham Fox <fox.graham wrote: > Margarita -- do you mean a Word document? How do I > find it? I can't > see any attached files anywhere. This has already > happened to me -- > someone talked about a chart which I couldn't find. > Am I doing > something wrong? > Thanks > Graham Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Thanks Ash, all is now clear. I'll change my options when I'm back from two weeks working away. Thanks for the pasting. Graham , Ash Sam <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Graham, > If you have set your settings to receive mail to your > email address then you would have got the attachment. > does not store any messages any more. So > if you log onto Web to check the messages you will not > get the attachment. > In any case I am copy from the word document and > pasting it here...... > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Here it goes... > > Biography native born of 16 september 1953 in > Charleroi at 11h50 zone 1 > 4E26 50N25 > First relationship > First marriage 31 august 1979 > Birth of first child : male on 5th December 1984 > Birth of 2nd child : female on 31st may 1991 > > Separation in November 1994 > Divorce effective on 13th October 1995 > > Second relationship > First encounter on 22 november 1988 > Love started (as stated by the native) on 16th may > 1995 > Second marriage (after life together) 3th july 1999 > > Job related events > From January 1981 to 16th September 1988 worked in > Insurance company > Worked for VERITAS (big company) > In Atlanta USA from 17 september 1988 until 30 > november 1988 > In Montréal (Canada) from November 1988 until July > 1989 > In Caracas (Venezuela) from august 89 until end of > 1989 > Carreer interrupted by motor accident in December 1989 > till march 1990 > In Paris (France) from april 1990 till February 1995 > In Mexico D.F. from march 1995 until December 1997 > > From January 1998 till end of august 1998 without job. > Tried to find work in Florida USA but without success > > Worked for SODEXHO (other company) > In Paris from September 1998 until end February 1999 > In Tunis (Tunesia) from march 1999 until august 2000 > > Without job from September 2000 until end of august > 2001 > > Worked for NATIONAL BRITANNIA > In the south of France from September 2001 untill > april 2002 > > Without job from may 2002 until june 2003 > > Tried to set up his own companies without success up > to now > In September 2003 > In October 2003 > > Promotions > March 1990 > March 1991 > March 1995 > > Court action due to loss of job > Went to court in juin 2002 for loss of job at Sodhexo > Claim was discussed in September 2001 > Transaction and signature on 30th November (got 4 > months of salary as compensation) > This amount was paid on 5th of February 2002 > > Date his book was published > February 2004 > During the last 2 years, as the native was jobless, he > wrote a book. > > Other dates that the native finds important > Death of his brother in law in mai 1996 > Death of his father in may 1998 > Joined a Masonic temple on 2nd December 1980 > > Important motor car accident 25th april 1986. Escaped > because " he was lucky " > > > > --- Graham Fox <fox.graham@w...> wrote: > > Margarita -- do you mean a Word document? How do I > > find it? I can't > > see any attached files anywhere. This has already > > happened to me -- > > someone talked about a chart which I couldn't find. > > Am I doing > > something wrong? > > Thanks > > Graham > > > > > Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. > http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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