samdharmi

[Guest guest]

Respected Krushna,

I struggled through the raja yogas but have still a problem

when there are many planets that are samdharmi. When we

have several planets in one sign, it becomes rather

difficult to choose between the different planets for

certain results. As example I submit this chart of a

female.

Female born on 23 of march 1966 at 11h 30 zone 1 = 10h30

G.M.T.

Place of birth : Kikwit, Congo 18°49 E - 5°02 S

Ayanamsa 22:22

Rashi : Asc 2°40 gemini// Sun 9°58 Pisces// Moon 23°46

Pisces // Mars 18°21 Pisces// Mercury R 6°25 Pisces//

Jupiter 0°57 Gemini// Venus 24°47 Capricorn// Saturn 29°02

Aquarius// Rahu 4°10 Taurus

Navamsha : asc+Jupiter in Libra// Mars in Sag.// Moon & Rahu

in Aquarius//Saturn in Gemini// Mercury & Venus & Ketu in Leo//

Sun in Virgo

 

Pisces is the 10th house and contains Sun,Moon,Mars and

Mercury so they all are samdharmi to Jupiter

In rashi Sun & Mercury are also samdharmi to Saturn because

in his nakshatra

Moon and Mars become samdharmi to Mercury for the same

reason

If we look at the position in the navamsha Sun samdharmi to

Mercury and Mars again samdharmi to Jupiter but we have to

add a possibility for the Moon who is also samdharmi to

Saturn and Mercury to the Sun. How do I figure this out ??

I suppose when the same samdharmi pops up twice or three

times this will be a strong link, but it becomes

nevertheless difficult to know which planets can act

especially if they have enough points to do so. In this

case does that mean that all sub give more or less the same

results?? I join the worksheet to facilitate (points of 6th

lord are not deducted)

Could you comment on this please, or give some path to

follow for reasoning

Thank you and best regards

Margarita

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji and Margarita,

 

I get just Mars as being samdharmi to Jupiter. Mars is the only

planet having less than 4 points. Sun (4), Moon (5) and Mercury (5)

and Mars (3) points.

In such a case do all planets become samdharmi to Jupiter or is it

only Mars.

 

If Sun, Moon and Mercury become Samdharmi to Jupiter then my

understanding is not correct ?

 

I am getting the following as samdharmi.

 

Su : Mo(same sign), Ma (same sign), Me (same nakshatra)

Mo : Su (same sign), Ma (same nakshatra), Me (same sign)

Ma : Su (same sign), Mo (same nakshatra), Me (same sign), Ju (4:10)

Me : Su (same sign), Mo (same sign), Ma (same sign), Ve (same navamsa)

Ju : None

Ve : Me (same nakshatra), Sa (natural samdharmi)

Ke : Ma (sign lord), Sa (nakshatra lord)

Ra : Su (nakshatra lord), Ve (sign lord).

 

Please correct my misunderstanding ?

 

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Respected Krushna,

> I struggled through the raja yogas but have still a problem

> when there are many planets that are samdharmi. When we

> have several planets in one sign, it becomes rather

> difficult to choose between the different planets for

> certain results. As example I submit this chart of a

> female.

> Female born on 23 of march 1966 at 11h 30 zone 1 = 10h30

> G.M.T.

> Place of birth : Kikwit, Congo 18°49 E - 5°02 S

> Ayanamsa 22:22

> Rashi : Asc 2°40 gemini// Sun 9°58 Pisces// Moon 23°46

> Pisces // Mars 18°21 Pisces// Mercury R 6°25 Pisces//

> Jupiter 0°57 Gemini// Venus 24°47 Capricorn// Saturn 29°02

> Aquarius// Rahu 4°10 Taurus

> Navamsha : asc+Jupiter in Libra// Mars in Sag.// Moon & Rahu

> in Aquarius//Saturn in Gemini// Mercury & Venus & Ketu in Leo//

> Sun in Virgo

>

> Pisces is the 10th house and contains Sun,Moon,Mars and

> Mercury so they all are samdharmi to Jupiter

> In rashi Sun & Mercury are also samdharmi to Saturn because

> in his nakshatra

> Moon and Mars become samdharmi to Mercury for the same

> reason

> If we look at the position in the navamsha Sun samdharmi to

> Mercury and Mars again samdharmi to Jupiter but we have to

> add a possibility for the Moon who is also samdharmi to

> Saturn and Mercury to the Sun. How do I figure this out ??

> I suppose when the same samdharmi pops up twice or three

> times this will be a strong link, but it becomes

> nevertheless difficult to know which planets can act

> especially if they have enough points to do so. In this

> case does that mean that all sub give more or less the same

> results?? I join the worksheet to facilitate (points of 6th

> lord are not deducted)

> Could you comment on this please, or give some path to

> follow for reasoning

> Thank you and best regards

> Margarita

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

 

Just a non-astrological suggestion. Instead of attaching the whole

worksheet, you could just attach the summary page. Just follow the following

steps to create a new file for the summary worksheet.

 

1. Press control A to select the whole sheet.

2. Click on new workbook.

3. Once you have the bland workbook on the screen, right mouse click on the

first cell and select paste special on the context menu.

4. From the options that you get, select formats. The format will now appear

on the blank sheet.

5. Then choose paste special again and select values. You will have the

values and the summary sheet complete in the new workbook.

6. Save this in the directory convenient to you.

 

This way, you would have most of the relevant information in an under 50k

email instead of an 850k email. It is fine for me but some people with

slower connections might have some trouble with that.

 

Regards

Sanjay

 

-

" dmlettens " <dmlettens

" Astrologyandtimingevents (AT) (DOT) Com "

 

Monday, April 22, 2002 1:47 AM

samdharmi

 

 

Respected Krushna,

I struggled through the raja yogas but have still a problem

when there are many planets that are samdharmi. When we

have several planets in one sign, it becomes rather

difficult to choose between the different planets for

certain results. As example I submit this chart of a

female.

Female born on 23 of march 1966 at 11h 30 zone 1 = 10h30

G.M.T.

Place of birth : Kikwit, Congo 18°49 E - 5°02 S

Ayanamsa 22:22

Rashi : Asc 2°40 gemini// Sun 9°58 Pisces// Moon 23°46

Pisces // Mars 18°21 Pisces// Mercury R 6°25 Pisces//

Jupiter 0°57 Gemini// Venus 24°47 Capricorn// Saturn 29°02

Aquarius// Rahu 4°10 Taurus

Navamsha : asc+Jupiter in Libra// Mars in Sag.// Moon & Rahu

in Aquarius//Saturn in Gemini// Mercury & Venus & Ketu in Leo//

Sun in Virgo

 

Pisces is the 10th house and contains Sun,Moon,Mars and

Mercury so they all are samdharmi to Jupiter

In rashi Sun & Mercury are also samdharmi to Saturn because

in his nakshatra

Moon and Mars become samdharmi to Mercury for the same

reason

If we look at the position in the navamsha Sun samdharmi to

Mercury and Mars again samdharmi to Jupiter but we have to

add a possibility for the Moon who is also samdharmi to

Saturn and Mercury to the Sun. How do I figure this out ??

I suppose when the same samdharmi pops up twice or three

times this will be a strong link, but it becomes

nevertheless difficult to know which planets can act

especially if they have enough points to do so. In this

case does that mean that all sub give more or less the same

results?? I join the worksheet to facilitate (points of 6th

lord are not deducted)

Could you comment on this please, or give some path to

follow for reasoning

Thank you and best regards

Margarita

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Ash,

I looked up the samdharmi again and I think you are

probably right. I just thought that being in the same sign

made the planets samdharmi to the lord of that sign; I

didn't find any mention of that in the lesson so there was

some confusion in my mind. Nevertheless, all these planets

together create some dark soup in which I can't see very

clearly.

Thanks for pointing out this error

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

ashsam73 [ashsam73]

Sunday, April 21, 2002 10:23 PM

 

Re: samdharmi

 

Dear Krushnaji and Margarita,

 

I get just Mars as being samdharmi to Jupiter. Mars is the

only

planet having less than 4 points. Sun (4), Moon (5) and

Mercury (5)

and Mars (3) points.

In such a case do all planets become samdharmi to Jupiter

or is it

only Mars.

 

If Sun, Moon and Mercury become Samdharmi to Jupiter then

my

understanding is not correct ?

 

I am getting the following as samdharmi.

 

Su : Mo(same sign), Ma (same sign), Me (same nakshatra)

Mo : Su (same sign), Ma (same nakshatra), Me (same sign)

Ma : Su (same sign), Mo (same nakshatra), Me (same sign),

Ju (4:10)

Me : Su (same sign), Mo (same sign), Ma (same sign), Ve

(same navamsa)

Ju : None

Ve : Me (same nakshatra), Sa (natural samdharmi)

Ke : Ma (sign lord), Sa (nakshatra lord)

Ra : Su (nakshatra lord), Ve (sign lord).

 

Please correct my misunderstanding ?

 

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " dmlettens "

<dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Respected Krushna,

> I struggled through the raja yogas but have still a

problem

> when there are many planets that are samdharmi. When we

> have several planets in one sign, it becomes rather

> difficult to choose between the different planets for

> certain results. As example I submit this chart of a

> female.

> Female born on 23 of march 1966 at 11h 30 zone 1 = 10h30

> G.M.T.

> Place of birth : Kikwit, Congo 18°49 E - 5°02 S

> Ayanamsa 22:22

> Rashi : Asc 2°40 gemini// Sun 9°58 Pisces// Moon 23°46

> Pisces // Mars 18°21 Pisces// Mercury R 6°25 Pisces//

> Jupiter 0°57 Gemini// Venus 24°47 Capricorn// Saturn

29°02

> Aquarius// Rahu 4°10 Taurus

> Navamsha : asc+Jupiter in Libra// Mars in Sag.//

Moon & Rahu

> in Aquarius//Saturn in Gemini// Mercury & Venus & Ketu in

Leo//

> Sun in Virgo

>

> Pisces is the 10th house and contains Sun,Moon,Mars and

> Mercury so they all are samdharmi to Jupiter

> In rashi Sun & Mercury are also samdharmi to Saturn

because

> in his nakshatra

> Moon and Mars become samdharmi to Mercury for the same

> reason

> If we look at the position in the navamsha Sun samdharmi

to

> Mercury and Mars again samdharmi to Jupiter but we have

to

> add a possibility for the Moon who is also samdharmi to

> Saturn and Mercury to the Sun. How do I figure this out

??

> I suppose when the same samdharmi pops up twice or three

> times this will be a strong link, but it becomes

> nevertheless difficult to know which planets can act

> especially if they have enough points to do so. In this

> case does that mean that all sub give more or less the

same

> results?? I join the worksheet to facilitate (points of

6th

> lord are not deducted)

> Could you comment on this please, or give some path to

> follow for reasoning

> Thank you and best regards

> Margarita

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks a lot Sanjay for this suggestion. I was not aware

that the whole thing was sent and just wondered why these

mails with attachments took so long to go through !!!!!!

Well I learn every day and will follow your suggestion.

Thanks once more

Margarita

 

 

S J [sanjaygg]

Monday, April 22, 2002 8:36 AM

 

Re: samdharmi

 

Dear Margarita,

 

Just a non-astrological suggestion. Instead of attaching

the whole

worksheet, you could just attach the summary page. Just

follow the following

steps to create a new file for the summary worksheet.

 

1. Press control A to select the whole sheet.

2. Click on new workbook.

3. Once you have the bland workbook on the screen, right

mouse click on the

first cell and select paste special on the context menu.

4. From the options that you get, select formats. The

format will now appear

on the blank sheet.

5. Then choose paste special again and select values. You

will have the

values and the summary sheet complete in the new workbook.

6. Save this in the directory convenient to you.

 

This way, you would have most of the relevant information

in an under 50k

email instead of an 850k email. It is fine for me but some

people with

slower connections might have some trouble with that.

 

Regards

Sanjay

 

-

" dmlettens " <dmlettens

" Astrologyandtimingevents (AT) (DOT) Com "

 

Monday, April 22, 2002 1:47 AM

samdharmi

 

 

Respected Krushna,

I struggled through the raja yogas but have still a problem

when there are many planets that are samdharmi. When we

have several planets in one sign, it becomes rather

difficult to choose between the different planets for

certain results. As example I submit this chart of a

female.

Female born on 23 of march 1966 at 11h 30 zone 1 = 10h30

G.M.T.

Place of birth : Kikwit, Congo 18°49 E - 5°02 S

Ayanamsa 22:22

Rashi : Asc 2°40 gemini// Sun 9°58 Pisces// Moon 23°46

Pisces // Mars 18°21 Pisces// Mercury R 6°25 Pisces//

Jupiter 0°57 Gemini// Venus 24°47 Capricorn// Saturn 29°02

Aquarius// Rahu 4°10 Taurus

Navamsha : asc+Jupiter in Libra// Mars in Sag.// Moon & Rahu

in Aquarius//Saturn in Gemini// Mercury & Venus & Ketu in Leo//

Sun in Virgo

 

Pisces is the 10th house and contains Sun,Moon,Mars and

Mercury so they all are samdharmi to Jupiter

In rashi Sun & Mercury are also samdharmi to Saturn because

in his nakshatra

Moon and Mars become samdharmi to Mercury for the same

reason

If we look at the position in the navamsha Sun samdharmi to

Mercury and Mars again samdharmi to Jupiter but we have to

add a possibility for the Moon who is also samdharmi to

Saturn and Mercury to the Sun. How do I figure this out ??

I suppose when the same samdharmi pops up twice or three

times this will be a strong link, but it becomes

nevertheless difficult to know which planets can act

especially if they have enough points to do so. In this

case does that mean that all sub give more or less the same

results?? I join the worksheet to facilitate (points of 6th

lord are not deducted)

Could you comment on this please, or give some path to

follow for reasoning

Thank you and best regards

Margarita

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

The planets situated in one sign or Constellation are

samdharmi to each other. Here in this case Sun, Me, Ma and Moon are

in 10th house. So we can say they are samdharmi. You have written

they are samdharmi to Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of the Sign. So they

can not be samdharmi. Here Mars is with less points and Jupiter is in

the 4th place from Mars, So Jupiter will act as a subordinate for

Mars. Or we can say it may act as samdharmi for Mars.

Now for this case, Mars is lord of 6th house, But it is with

less points. So the effect of it's sight in not so harmful (except

for 5th where it may give some problem for child birth here it is not

spoiled by Rahu so effect will not be more serius).

For the current case Jupiter is samdharmi to mars, and is in

navmansha in Libra. ????

Mercury is retrogated, means it is in front of Sun. So it will

not loose it's natural qualities.

Saturn being in the navmansha of Mercury can act as samdharmi

to Mercury. ( not vice versa) Planets becomes samdharmi to navmansha

lord not to lord of the sign.

Mercury and venus can be samdharmi to Sun.

Jupiter can be samdharmi to Venus, but venus is not samdharmi

to Jupiter.

 

The samdharmi planets acts only when the main planet is unable to

give it's result due to it's sight( it not lord of D or E). Natural

samdharmi planets do not have any restriction, they can give the

result, if gets chance.

Any planet, only because it is samdharmi to lord of D and E,

can not act similar to lord of D or E. Lord of D or E are more eager

to give the result. So in case if it gets chance, it will try to give

the result. If These lords are having their sight in the houses (

main upchayas) then it self or it's samdharmi can give the result. In

this case the samdharmi should be eligible to give the result. Any

planet in house D or E with more points can act samdharmi to lord of

D or E. It also becomes eager to give the result.

As Sun, Me, and Mo are being samdharmi to Mars, no better

result can be expected from them ( except for 1st and 9th, house

perticularly. As it is also lord of 11th so we can say for 2nd and

also 6th house.

In such case, how to decide the most powerful samdharmi. Here

we use our point theory. Mercury and Moon are with more points, but

mercury is in niccha rashi, so Moon will be more powerful and also

N.S.

Mars for this chart became power ful due to Jupiter, so

result for all the houses will be with less happiness. Jupiter which

gets points due to sight of Mars, will also reduce the happiness.

 

If still concept of Samdharmi is not clear, I will try to

give a fresh lesson in one piece, so it will clear the confusion.

krushna

, " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Respected Krushna,

> I struggled through the raja yogas but have still a problem

> when there are many planets that are samdharmi. When we

> have several planets in one sign, it becomes rather

> difficult to choose between the different planets for

> certain results. As example I submit this chart of a

> female.

> Female born on 23 of march 1966 at 11h 30 zone 1 = 10h30

> G.M.T.

> Place of birth : Kikwit, Congo 18°49 E - 5°02 S

> Ayanamsa 22:22

> Rashi : Asc 2°40 gemini// Sun 9°58 Pisces// Moon 23°46

> Pisces // Mars 18°21 Pisces// Mercury R 6°25 Pisces//

> Jupiter 0°57 Gemini// Venus 24°47 Capricorn// Saturn 29°02

> Aquarius// Rahu 4°10 Taurus

> Navamsha : asc+Jupiter in Libra// Mars in Sag.// Moon & Rahu

> in Aquarius//Saturn in Gemini// Mercury & Venus & Ketu in Leo//

> Sun in Virgo

>

> Pisces is the 10th house and contains Sun,Moon,Mars and

> Mercury so they all are samdharmi to Jupiter

> In rashi Sun & Mercury are also samdharmi to Saturn because

> in his nakshatra

> Moon and Mars become samdharmi to Mercury for the same

> reason

> If we look at the position in the navamsha Sun samdharmi to

> Mercury and Mars again samdharmi to Jupiter but we have to

> add a possibility for the Moon who is also samdharmi to

> Saturn and Mercury to the Sun. How do I figure this out ??

> I suppose when the same samdharmi pops up twice or three

> times this will be a strong link, but it becomes

> nevertheless difficult to know which planets can act

> especially if they have enough points to do so. In this

> case does that mean that all sub give more or less the same

> results?? I join the worksheet to facilitate (points of 6th

> lord are not deducted)

> Could you comment on this please, or give some path to

> follow for reasoning

> Thank you and best regards

> Margarita

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji,

 

Sorry to interfere in the conversation.

 

I think there is one more new law or rule or samdharmi as per this

email.

 

1) Planet (even if single) in the Rasi, the lord of the Navamsa is

what it becomes samdharmi to and this is not vice versa.

 

So basically each and every planet will have a samdharmi.

 

In the example that Margarita gave, I found that Jupiter did not have

any samdharmi but just by being placed ALONE in libra navamsa it

beacame Samdhamri to Venus.

 

Based on this, the 6th lord's placement in Navamsa will definitely

spoil the lord of the Navamsa where it is placed.

 

From your earlier lesson, you had given the law that planets that are

together in the navamsa become samdharmi and which is of the lowest

level.

 

What level is the single planet and its navamsa lords level ?

 

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, " krushanain " <krushanain>

wrote:

> Dear Margarita,

> The planets situated in one sign or Constellation are

> samdharmi to each other. Here in this case Sun, Me, Ma and Moon are

> in 10th house. So we can say they are samdharmi. You have written

> they are samdharmi to Jupiter. Jupiter is lord of the Sign. So they

> can not be samdharmi. Here Mars is with less points and Jupiter is

in

> the 4th place from Mars, So Jupiter will act as a subordinate for

> Mars. Or we can say it may act as samdharmi for Mars.

> Now for this case, Mars is lord of 6th house, But it is with

> less points. So the effect of it's sight in not so harmful (except

> for 5th where it may give some problem for child birth here it is

not

> spoiled by Rahu so effect will not be more serius).

> For the current case Jupiter is samdharmi to mars, and is in

> navmansha in Libra. ????

> Mercury is retrogated, means it is in front of Sun. So it

will

> not loose it's natural qualities.

> Saturn being in the navmansha of Mercury can act as

samdharmi

> to Mercury. ( not vice versa) Planets becomes samdharmi to

navmansha

> lord not to lord of the sign.

> Mercury and venus can be samdharmi to Sun.

> Jupiter can be samdharmi to Venus, but venus is not

samdharmi

> to Jupiter.

>

> The samdharmi planets acts only when the main planet is unable to

> give it's result due to it's sight( it not lord of D or E). Natural

> samdharmi planets do not have any restriction, they can give the

> result, if gets chance.

> Any planet, only because it is samdharmi to lord of D and

E,

> can not act similar to lord of D or E. Lord of D or E are more

eager

> to give the result. So in case if it gets chance, it will try to

give

> the result. If These lords are having their sight in the houses (

> main upchayas) then it self or it's samdharmi can give the result.

In

> this case the samdharmi should be eligible to give the result. Any

> planet in house D or E with more points can act samdharmi to lord

of

> D or E. It also becomes eager to give the result.

> As Sun, Me, and Mo are being samdharmi to Mars, no better

> result can be expected from them ( except for 1st and 9th, house

> perticularly. As it is also lord of 11th so we can say for 2nd and

> also 6th house.

> In such case, how to decide the most powerful samdharmi.

Here

> we use our point theory. Mercury and Moon are with more points, but

> mercury is in niccha rashi, so Moon will be more powerful and also

> N.S.

> Mars for this chart became power ful due to Jupiter, so

> result for all the houses will be with less happiness. Jupiter

which

> gets points due to sight of Mars, will also reduce the happiness.

>

> If still concept of Samdharmi is not clear, I will try to

> give a fresh lesson in one piece, so it will clear the confusion.

> krushna

> , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

> wrote:

> > Respected Krushna,

> > I struggled through the raja yogas but have still a problem

> > when there are many planets that are samdharmi. When we

> > have several planets in one sign, it becomes rather

> > difficult to choose between the different planets for

> > certain results. As example I submit this chart of a

> > female.

> > Female born on 23 of march 1966 at 11h 30 zone 1 = 10h30

> > G.M.T.

> > Place of birth : Kikwit, Congo 18°49 E - 5°02 S

> > Ayanamsa 22:22

> > Rashi : Asc 2°40 gemini// Sun 9°58 Pisces// Moon 23°46

> > Pisces // Mars 18°21 Pisces// Mercury R 6°25 Pisces//

> > Jupiter 0°57 Gemini// Venus 24°47 Capricorn// Saturn 29°02

> > Aquarius// Rahu 4°10 Taurus

> > Navamsha : asc+Jupiter in Libra// Mars in Sag.// Moon & Rahu

> > in Aquarius//Saturn in Gemini// Mercury & Venus & Ketu in Leo//

> > Sun in Virgo

> >

> > Pisces is the 10th house and contains Sun,Moon,Mars and

> > Mercury so they all are samdharmi to Jupiter

> > In rashi Sun & Mercury are also samdharmi to Saturn because

> > in his nakshatra

> > Moon and Mars become samdharmi to Mercury for the same

> > reason

> > If we look at the position in the navamsha Sun samdharmi to

> > Mercury and Mars again samdharmi to Jupiter but we have to

> > add a possibility for the Moon who is also samdharmi to

> > Saturn and Mercury to the Sun. How do I figure this out ??

> > I suppose when the same samdharmi pops up twice or three

> > times this will be a strong link, but it becomes

> > nevertheless difficult to know which planets can act

> > especially if they have enough points to do so. In this

> > case does that mean that all sub give more or less the same

> > results?? I join the worksheet to facilitate (points of 6th

> > lord are not deducted)

> > Could you comment on this please, or give some path to

> > follow for reasoning

> > Thank you and best regards

> > Margarita

[Guest guest]

Thank you Krushna, This would probably be a good idea a

clear some difficulties in the matter which is very subtle

indeed.

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

krushanain [krushanain]

Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:04 PM

 

Re: samdharmi

 

Dear Margarita,

I got the idea, members are getting some confusion

about

samdharmi. I will try to give a seperate lesson, if

possible with

some examples, Illustrating When and how the samdharmi

planets come

forward, and when no samdharmi can give the result.

With in one week or so I will try to give this write

up. Still

I have not checked the effect of planets, rewritten by Ms

Donna.

krushna

 

, " dmlettens "

<dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Thank you Krushna, I will go through this chart again.

> Apparently there was some confusion in my mind. It's a

> subtle matter indeed this " samdharmaship. "

> Best regards

> Margarita

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