Chart 48 - Attempt

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Dear Krushnaji and list members,

 

 

Here is my attempt for chart 44.

 

Chart no 44: D.O.B. 4th April 1948 at 05:25 AM IST (GMT +5.5)

> > > 26N18, 073E04 Ayanansha 22:07:30 Death in Rahu main Saturn Sub)

 

Using some guide lines in Krushnaji's previous email, I shall try to

use those principles in determining death.

 

Planets aspecting A,B,C for 8th house are.

1) Saturn

2) Sun

3) Jupiter

 

So the main dasha of Shani and Surya cannot give death.

 

3rd lord is Mars, but Mars is House D for 1st house, E for 5th

house. Hence it cannot give death.

 

Mahadasa started from and followed by the following sequence

 

1) Moon : During Moon Mahadasa the native was very young plus Moon is

LOE.

2) Mars : Mars dasa cannot give death as determined above.

3) Rahu : Rahu is in 3rd house and it represents Venus and Mars.

Both Mars and Venus are powerful with 5 bindus each. Rahu's Mahadasa

can give death.

 

Also one more point. Early death is indicated for the native as 5

planets are strong i.e. > 13 points for 8th house.

 

Now narrowing down to Antra within Rahu Mahadasa.

 

Shani has become very powerful for 8th house getting 39 points. Plus

it is lord of house E. Hence it becomes very eager to give results.

 

Hence Shanis antra gave death.

 

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I do not understand why Rahu's antra did not give death in Rahu main ?

I can see why Shani's antra gave death but why Rahu's antra did not

give death as it comes first ? Is there some law that I am missing

or overlooking ?

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Thanking you,

Ash

[Guest guest]

Hello Ash,

I read your attempt on this chart. Well, my feeling about

Rahu/Rahu period is that Rahu is very much Mars because in

Mars' sign in Rashi and Navamsha, so he must be strong for

life.(Mars being lord of A and B for the 3th) Lords of the

1st and the 5th are always more eager to give results.

Saturn's point in the 8th are also much higher than in the

3th and this could also count. Of course, next sub of

Mercury could also have given results as Mercury is in E

for the 8th and has good points in the worksheet. This

perhaps helps not much or is not a valid reason.

I'm trying to figure out the points planets have in the 8th

house to see if there is a relationship between long life

and points; up to now I haven't found anything conclusive.

Looking at some laws Krushna gave us about " un-natural "

death. I see that Moon is aspected by Mars with 5 points

and this Moon gets aspect from Saturn who is also ascendent

lord, so the native must have had an emotional problem and

perhaps died through accident or suicide ???? Mars/Saturn

also stay together in Navamsha and Drekkana, so they are

strong and theydon't make a nice pair together.

I'm always reading your mails with much interest because

they are formulated so clearly and I can follow your

reasoning very well. For me it's a pleasure.

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

ashsam73 [ashsam73]

Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:01 AM

 

Chart 48 - Attempt

 

Dear Krushnaji and list members,

 

 

Here is my attempt for chart 44.

 

Chart no 44: D.O.B. 4th April 1948 at 05:25 AM IST (GMT

+5.5)

> > > 26N18, 073E04 Ayanansha 22:07:30 Death in Rahu main

Saturn Sub)

 

Using some guide lines in Krushnaji's previous email, I

shall try to

use those principles in determining death.

 

Planets aspecting A,B,C for 8th house are.

1) Saturn

2) Sun

3) Jupiter

 

So the main dasha of Shani and Surya cannot give death.

 

3rd lord is Mars, but Mars is House D for 1st house, E for

5th

house. Hence it cannot give death.

 

Mahadasa started from and followed by the following

sequence

 

1) Moon : During Moon Mahadasa the native was very young

plus Moon is

LOE.

2) Mars : Mars dasa cannot give death as determined above.

3) Rahu : Rahu is in 3rd house and it represents Venus and

Mars.

Both Mars and Venus are powerful with 5 bindus each.

Rahu's Mahadasa

can give death.

 

Also one more point. Early death is indicated for the

native as 5

planets are strong i.e. > 13 points for 8th house.

 

Now narrowing down to Antra within Rahu Mahadasa.

 

Shani has become very powerful for 8th house getting 39

points. Plus

it is lord of house E. Hence it becomes very eager to give

results.

 

Hence Shanis antra gave death.

 

********************************************

I do not understand why Rahu's antra did not give death in

Rahu main ?

I can see why Shani's antra gave death but why Rahu's antra

did not

give death as it comes first ? Is there some law that I am

missing

or overlooking ?

********************************************

 

Thanking you,

Ash

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

 

Thank you for your kind words. Its good to know that I am on the

right track and my mistakes can easily be found out from my posts.

I just try to elucidate every point in a logical sequence so that

people on the list who are quiet can also see clear and concise

approach with Ashtakavarga system. Ofcourse I am learning and am

going to make mistakes which kind members like Krushnaji, you and

others can point out and help me learn.

 

Yes, I agree with you regarding the

 

1) Antra of Mercury with 6 bindus and in 1st house being LOE for 8th

house can also furnish results.

2) So can antra of Shani that comes just before that.

3) Prior to that the Antra of Guru is running which I am not too

clear on is the fact that it is aspecting 3rd house so it should not

give result instead its Samdharmi can come forward, but since the

Samdhamri to Guru's period is further down hence its own antra cannot

give the result.

The confusion lies in the fact that I did choose Gurus Mahadasa as

Not giving death as it Aspects 3rd house, so can the same reasoning

be applied to the Antra of Guru in Rahus Main ?

 

About Rahu, yes what you say makes sense, as if Rahu is like Mars

being more dominant in Rasi + divisional charts as compared to Rahu

represnting like Venus (in Rasi).

 

This brings up an interesting point Margarita,

 

Rahu represnts Mars and Venus in Rasi both with equal bindus.

So how does one procede. I remember the emails to and fro between

you and Krushnaji regarding Rahu acting percentage wise depending on

the points of the planets it represnts to determine the predominat

influence that Rahu it would represent.

In this particular case Rahu is represnting Mars and Venus both of

them having 5 binuds.

Now then, do we have to look at divisional charts like you have done

to see Who has more influence, like what you have given which is

Mars is vargottam in Rasi and Navamsa and Drekkhana making Rahu act

more like Mars than Venus ?

This clafification would be a good learning point.

 

About the kind of death, you may be right, but I still have to study

about that aspect of Natural vs Accident or suicide. I have not

gotten to that point as of yet, but yes Mars/Saturn or Mars/Ketu and

I feel that if the Karak for 8th house is spoilt or very afflicted

then combinations can indicate that.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

, " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Hello Ash,

> I read your attempt on this chart. Well, my feeling about

> Rahu/Rahu period is that Rahu is very much Mars because in

> Mars' sign in Rashi and Navamsha, so he must be strong for

> life.(Mars being lord of A and B for the 3th) Lords of the

> 1st and the 5th are always more eager to give results.

> Saturn's point in the 8th are also much higher than in the

> 3th and this could also count. Of course, next sub of

> Mercury could also have given results as Mercury is in E

> for the 8th and has good points in the worksheet. This

> perhaps helps not much or is not a valid reason.

> I'm trying to figure out the points planets have in the 8th

> house to see if there is a relationship between long life

> and points; up to now I haven't found anything conclusive.

> Looking at some laws Krushna gave us about " un-natural "

> death. I see that Moon is aspected by Mars with 5 points

> and this Moon gets aspect from Saturn who is also ascendent

> lord, so the native must have had an emotional problem and

> perhaps died through accident or suicide ???? Mars/Saturn

> also stay together in Navamsha and Drekkana, so they are

> strong and theydon't make a nice pair together.

> I'm always reading your mails with much interest because

> they are formulated so clearly and I can follow your

> reasoning very well. For me it's a pleasure.

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

>

> ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]

> Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:01 AM

>

> Chart 48 - Attempt

>

> Dear Krushnaji and list members,

>

>

> Here is my attempt for chart 44.

>

> Chart no 44: D.O.B. 4th April 1948 at 05:25 AM IST (GMT

> +5.5)

> > > > 26N18, 073E04 Ayanansha 22:07:30 Death in Rahu main

> Saturn Sub)

>

> Using some guide lines in Krushnaji's previous email, I

> shall try to

> use those principles in determining death.

>

> Planets aspecting A,B,C for 8th house are.

> 1) Saturn

> 2) Sun

> 3) Jupiter

>

> So the main dasha of Shani and Surya cannot give death.

>

> 3rd lord is Mars, but Mars is House D for 1st house, E for

> 5th

> house. Hence it cannot give death.

>

> Mahadasa started from and followed by the following

> sequence

>

> 1) Moon : During Moon Mahadasa the native was very young

> plus Moon is

> LOE.

> 2) Mars : Mars dasa cannot give death as determined above.

> 3) Rahu : Rahu is in 3rd house and it represents Venus and

> Mars.

> Both Mars and Venus are powerful with 5 bindus each.

> Rahu's Mahadasa

> can give death.

>

> Also one more point. Early death is indicated for the

> native as 5

> planets are strong i.e. > 13 points for 8th house.

>

> Now narrowing down to Antra within Rahu Mahadasa.

>

> Shani has become very powerful for 8th house getting 39

> points. Plus

> it is lord of house E. Hence it becomes very eager to give

> results.

>

> Hence Shanis antra gave death.

>

> ********************************************

> I do not understand why Rahu's antra did not give death in

> Rahu main ?

> I can see why Shani's antra gave death but why Rahu's antra

> did not

> give death as it comes first ? Is there some law that I am

> missing

> or overlooking ?

> ********************************************

>

> Thanking you,

> Ash

>

>

>

>

>