Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 Hello Ash, I will try to explain the way how I see some points. But I must agree that it is rather difficult to judge one aspect of a chart separately from all the rest. So if you have a particular chart in mind with this combination, we could discuss one topic (wealth or income for example) weighing out all the different factors involved. If in doubt we could then ask Krushna for assistance. 1) and 2) As 6th lord Mars will always hurt by sight, but he cannot hurt all aspects of life. It also depends much on his points and the aspects of other planets. Mars for scorpio ascendent wil give enemies and worries but placed in Mercury sign the person will have capacity to overcome obstacles caused by others. If he has high points in the 11th he will be good for income but hurt the 5th. All things in life are mixed. I think income will also depend on other factors in the chart. His aspect on 2nd house could hurt family life, he could be an uprooted person or somebody who has to live abroad. But Mars could give good results in his sub for income depending on his strength. His aspect on the 5th house will definitely bring worries with children or childbirth; or he could have no male children. It also depends on other factors of course. The aspect on the 6th house, which is his own house, can by nature not be so bad. It depends on the points Mars has. By the way Mars and Saturn are better sixth lords because they usually have less points. Jupiter is really the bad one as 6th lord because he usually has high points. 3 - 4- 5th) I think debts and loans are seen from the same house because anyway you have to buy something back either you loan or your debt, so I would look at the 12th which means the " expense " to pay back. I think the 8th is to be consulted for " savings " . You could look at both : if a sub has high points for the 12th = big expenses; if this same planet has low points in the 8th = no savings. 6) Sun and Moon are of course 6th lords for Aquarius and Pisces ascendent but they don't have the malefic nature of 6th lord planets 7) A planet that becomes samdharmi to 6th lord can become malefic only if the 6th lord is in the 10th place from another planet with less points. A conjunction with 6th lord will not affect the planet I think ?? Anyway in other conjunctions it works like that, but in fact I'm not too sure. 8) planets aspected by the 6th lord will suffer more or less depending the strength of the malefic sight (points of 6th lord) 9) planets samdharmi to 6th lord will give results for the 6th lord if they have enough points, are significators, and if their sub comes first 10) planets in the 6th with more points do not act necessarily as the 6th lord. In you example they would be in house E and become thus strong for giving results for the 1st I think that if we look at an event in life to a particular house as B we also have to make out if the lords of D and E have a relationship with the 6th lord; if this is the case, no positive result can be expected. Well, I don't know if this helps. But if you have a chart just give the data, otherwise I can look in my own to see if I find this combination. Best regards Margarita --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: 5/24/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 Dear Margarita, Very nice explanation. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > I will try to explain the way how I see some points. But I > must agree that it is rather difficult to judge one aspect > of a chart separately from all the rest. So if you have a > particular chart in mind with this combination, we could > discuss one topic (wealth or income for example) weighing > out all the different factors involved. If in doubt we > could then ask Krushna for assistance. > 1) and 2) > As 6th lord Mars will always hurt by sight, but he cannot > hurt all aspects of life. It also depends much on his > points and the aspects of other planets. Mars for scorpio > ascendent wil give enemies and worries but placed in > Mercury sign the person will have capacity to overcome > obstacles caused by others. If he has high points in the > 11th he will be good for income but hurt the 5th. All > things in life are mixed. I think income will also depend > on other factors in the chart. > His aspect on 2nd house could hurt family life, he could be > an uprooted person or somebody who has to live abroad. But > Mars could give good results in his sub for income > depending on his strength. > His aspect on the 5th house will definitely bring worries > with children or childbirth; or he could have no male > children. It also depends on other factors of course. > The aspect on the 6th house, which is his own house, can by > nature not be so bad. It depends on the points Mars has. By > the way Mars and Saturn are better sixth lords because they > usually have less points. Jupiter is really the bad one as > 6th lord because he usually has high points. > > 3 - 4- 5th) > I think debts and loans are seen from the same house > because anyway you have to buy something back either you > loan or your debt, so I would look at the 12th which means > the " expense " to pay back. I think the 8th is to be > consulted for " savings " . You could look at both : if a sub > has high points for the 12th = big expenses; if this same > planet has low points in the 8th = no savings. > > 6) > Sun and Moon are of course 6th lords for Aquarius and > Pisces ascendent but they don't have the malefic nature of > 6th lord planets > > 7) > A planet that becomes samdharmi to 6th lord can become > malefic only if the 6th lord is in the 10th place from > another planet with less points. > A conjunction with 6th lord will not affect the planet I > think ?? Anyway in other conjunctions it works like that, > but in fact I'm not too sure. > > 8) > planets aspected by the 6th lord will suffer more or less > depending the strength of the malefic sight (points of 6th > lord) > > 9) > planets samdharmi to 6th lord will give results for the 6th > lord if they have enough points, are significators, and if > their sub comes first > > 10) > planets in the 6th with more points do not act necessarily > as the 6th lord. In you example they would be in house E > and become thus strong for giving results for the 1st > > I think that if we look at an event in life to a particular > house as B we also have to make out if the lords of D and E > have a relationship with the 6th lord; if this is the case, > no positive result can be expected. > > Well, I don't know if this helps. But if you have a chart > just give the data, otherwise I can look in my own to see > if I find this combination. > Best regards > Margarita > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: > 5/24/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2002 Report Share Posted June 11, 2002 Dear Margarita, Thank you very much for your explanation. Yes this post of yours is very helpful. I however have a few areas that I need further clarifications. Which I shall write in CAPS. , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > I will try to explain the way how I see some points. But I > must agree that it is rather difficult to judge one aspect > of a chart separately from all the rest. So if you have a > particular chart in mind with this combination, we could > discuss one topic (wealth or income for example) weighing > out all the different factors involved. If in doubt we > could then ask Krushna for assistance. > 1) and 2) > As 6th lord Mars will always hurt by sight, but he cannot > hurt all aspects of life. It also depends much on his > points and the aspects of other planets. Mars for scorpio > ascendent wil give enemies and worries but placed in > Mercury sign the person will have capacity to overcome > obstacles caused by others. If he has high points in the > 11th he will be good for income but hurt the 5th. All > things in life are mixed. I think income will also depend > on other factors in the chart. ASH : JUST TO CLARIFY, IF 6TH LORD HAS HIGH POINTS EG. MARS IN OUR CASE HERE IF HE HAD SAY 7 BINDUS AND PLACED IN 11TH HOUSE, THEN THE HOUSE IT ASPECTS WOULD BE -7 BINDUS AND WOULD DEVOID THOSE HOUSE OF RESULTS. I REMEMBER READING A POST OF KRUSHNAJI SOME TIME BACK THAT FOR US TO CONSIDER THE PLACEMENT OF 6TH LORD IN THE HOUSE AS 8-BINDUS. IN OUR CASE THE RESULT OF MARS IN 11TH HOUSE WOULD BEHAVE LIKE MARS HAD 1 POINT I.E. (8-7 BINDU). IF THAT WERE THE CASE THEN WOUDNT MARS REDUCE THE EFFECTS OF THE 11TH HOUSE MEANING IT SHOULD REDUCE THE INCOME + ASPECT WITH -7 BINDUS AND HENCE ALSO DEVOID 2ND, 7TH AND 6TH HOUSE RESULTS. IF THE ABOVE WERE TO BE TRUE, THEN IN 2ND CASE IF MARS WERE TO HAVE SAY 3 BINDUS AND PLACED IN 11TH HOUSE THEN IT AGAIN WOULD DEVOID 11TH HOUSE AS IT WOULD HAVE 3 BINDUS FOR THE HOUSE ITS PLACED BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO ITS ASPECTS WHICH IT WOULD CAST WITH +5 ? HOW TO TREAT THE ASPECT OF +5 BY THE 6TH LORD ? WOULD IT STILL HURT THE HOUSE IT ASPECTS ? THIS WAS ONE AREA THAT I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT. > His aspect on 2nd house could hurt family life, he could be > an uprooted person or somebody who has to live abroad. But > Mars could give good results in his sub for income > depending on his strength. > His aspect on the 5th house will definitely bring worries > with children or childbirth; or he could have no male > children. It also depends on other factors of course. > The aspect on the 6th house, which is his own house, can by > nature not be so bad. It depends on the points Mars has. By > the way Mars and Saturn are better sixth lords because they > usually have less points. Jupiter is really the bad one as > 6th lord because he usually has high points. ASH : THE FIRST POINT REGARDING MARS GIVING GOOD INCOME COULD BE CLARIFIED BY THE REASONING OR CLARIFICATION THAT I HAVE ASKED FOR IN THE PREVIOUS POINT. REGARDING, MARS AND SATURN BEING GOOD IN THE 6TH HOUSE, YES I AGREE ABSOLUTELY, BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MARS AND SATURN BEING NATURAL MALEFICS BY THEIR INHERENT NATURE CAN CAUSE DEATH, BUT IF PLACED IN DUSHTANA, THEN THEY WOULD ASPECT A,B,C HOUSE FROM 8TH HOUSE THEREBY NOT BEING ABLE TO GIVE DEATH IN THEIR MAIN OR SUB PERIOD. B = 8TH HOUSE, A=3RD HOUSE AND C=12TH HOUSE. SHANI IN 6TH WOULD ASPECT 8TH, 12TH AND 3RD HOUSE MARS IN THE 6TH WOULD ASPECT 9TH, 12TH, 1ST HOUSE. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT REGARDING POINTS THAT GENERALLY MARS AND SATURN WOULD HAVE WOULD BE < 4 IN MOST GENERAL CASES. THIS WAY OF THINKING WAS NEW, AND I LEARNT SOMETHING NEW > 3 - 4- 5th) > I think debts and loans are seen from the same house > because anyway you have to buy something back either you > loan or your debt, so I would look at the 12th which means > the " expense " to pay back. I think the 8th is to be > consulted for " savings " . You could look at both : if a sub > has high points for the 12th = big expenses; if this same > planet has low points in the 8th = no savings. > ASH : SO DEBT AND LOANS (FOR PROPERTY, BUSINESS ETC) ARE TO BE SEEN FROM 6TH HOUSE ? > 6) > Sun and Moon are of course 6th lords for Aquarius and > Pisces ascendent but they don't have the malefic nature of > 6th lord planets ASH : SO I GUESS, AQUARIUS AND PISCES ARE SPECIAL SIGNS. MAYBE THATS WHY AQUARIUS IS CALLED THE INTELLECTUAL SIGN AND PISCES IS CALLED THE SPIRITUAL HOUSE OR HOUSE OF THE MAHARISHIS. > > 7) > A planet that becomes samdharmi to 6th lord can become > malefic only if the 6th lord is in the 10th place from > another planet with less points. > A conjunction with 6th lord will not affect the planet I > think ?? Anyway in other conjunctions it works like that, > but in fact I'm not too sure. > ASH : I THOUGHT THAT ANY PLANET CONJOINING THE 6TH LORD OF IN ITS ASPECT OR IN THE NAVAMSA OF THE 6TH LORD THE RESULTS OF THAT HOUSE WOULD BE SPOILED OR REDUCED. ALL THESE LED ME TO THINK THAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE FOR BECOMING SAMDHARMI AND HENCE ITS BETTER THAT NO PLANET BECOME SAMDHARMI TO THE 6TH LORD. MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY THIS ??? > 8) > planets aspected by the 6th lord will suffer more or less > depending the strength of the malefic sight (points of 6th > lord) > ASH : AGAIN I AM CONFUSED BECAUSE I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER KRUSHNAJI STATING SOMEWHERE THAT 6TH LORD WAS KINDA SPECIAL AND ITS RESULTS HAD TO TREAT AS (8-BINDUS OF 6TH LORD). > 9) > planets samdharmi to 6th lord will give results for the 6th > lord if they have enough points, are significators, and if > their sub comes first ASH : KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY THIS REGARDING HOW THE SAMDHARMI OF THE 6TH LORD WILL BEHAVE AS PER THE 2ND PERVIOUS POINT. > > 10) > planets in the 6th with more points do not act necessarily > as the 6th lord. In you example they would be in house E > and become thus strong for giving results for the 1st > ASH : YES FOR 1ST HOUSE, BUT AGAIN THE CONFUSION WAS THE FACT THAT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT 6TH LORD AND PLANETS IN THE 6TH HOUSE BOTH PLAY THE PART OF CULPRITSHIP. SO MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY THIS. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO SEE BASED ON HOUSE B. I AGREE THAT PLANETS IN THE 6TH HOUSE WITH HIGH POINTS WILL NOT BE HARMFUL FOR 1ST AND 9TH HOUSE (HOUSE D AND E). > I think that if we look at an event in life to a particular > house as B we also have to make out if the lords of D and E > have a relationship with the 6th lord; if this is the case, > no positive result can be expected. > > Well, I don't know if this helps. But if you have a chart > just give the data, otherwise I can look in my own to see > if I find this combination. > Best regards > Margarita > ASH : YES THIS MAIL HAS HELPED ME A LOT AND MADE ME THINK. I TRIED TO MEDITATE ON THESE POINTS AND CAME UP WITH A FEW MORE THAT I HAVE ASKED. THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO EXPLAIN THESE POINTS TO ME. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I JUST HOPE THAT OTHER MEMBERS ON THIS LIST ARE ALSO LEARNING IN THIS PROCESS. THANKS, CHEERS !!! ASH > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: > 5/24/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2002 Report Share Posted June 11, 2002 Dear Ash, Margarita and list members, A good discussion about 6th lord. Jupiter is known as most beneficial planet, but as a sixth lord it is most malefic planet. Saturn and Mars are natural malefic, so their effect as a sixth lord is malefic, but it is less then Jupiter. Again all the planets Except Sun and Moon are having Dual lord ship. So it must act in both the houses. One case: Suppose there is Cancer lagna, and Jupiter is situated in Lagna house. Now it is having more role, 1) as sixth lord, 2)as 9th Lord, 3) lord of house E for Lagna, 4) lord of house E for 12th house, 4) LOE for 4th, 5) LoD for 9th 6) Karak for 11th, 7) Karak for 2nd. If such Jupiter is situated in 1st house, with more points say above 6 at least, so more prominent result can be achived. It aspects 5th. 7th and 9th house. So following results can be expected: In Venus Main or the main period of planet situated in 11th house or samdharmi to Venus, death of father in Jupiter Sub. In Mercury Main Jupiter sub may get seperation from Family. In main of 12th house Jupiter sub some dispute with Children or Seperation etc. Again Being Lord of 9th house and other Role, it will give the person very much respect. In short, no planet is Sixth lord is not alone, it is having some other role also. As it gives bad results, it also give better result due to lord ship of other house but the result will not be purely good, it may have some thing to loose. *******Yes to get the idea of the result, the Sixth lord may be assumed as being 8 - its points. ******* Sixth lord even with more points, or less points reduces the result of the houses it aspects. ******* Mars in 11 ( sixth lord) If gives good income, but it will revert the same. It gives income due to bribe etc. which will be opened, and may be resulted in some law action. ******* If any planet becames samdharmi to, Sixth lord, it may give result similar to sixth lord, but at the same time it will have it's own entity. Mercury perticularly as samdharmi to sixth lord, will be spoiled. krushna > > I will try to explain the way how I see some points. But I > > must agree that it is rather difficult to judge one aspect > > of a chart separately from all the rest. So if you have a > > particular chart in mind with this combination, we could > > discuss one topic (wealth or income for example) weighing > > out all the different factors involved. If in doubt we > > could then ask Krushna for assistance. > > 1) and 2) > > As 6th lord Mars will always hurt by sight, but he cannot > > hurt all aspects of life. It also depends much on his > > points and the aspects of other planets. Mars for scorpio > > ascendent wil give enemies and worries but placed in > > Mercury sign the person will have capacity to overcome > > obstacles caused by others. If he has high points in the > > 11th he will be good for income but hurt the 5th. All > > things in life are mixed. I think income will also depend > > on other factors in the chart. > > ASH : JUST TO CLARIFY, IF 6TH LORD HAS HIGH POINTS EG. MARS IN OUR > CASE HERE IF HE HAD SAY 7 BINDUS AND PLACED IN 11TH HOUSE, THEN THE > HOUSE IT ASPECTS WOULD BE -7 BINDUS AND WOULD DEVOID THOSE HOUSE OF > RESULTS. I REMEMBER READING A POST OF KRUSHNAJI SOME TIME BACK THAT > FOR US TO CONSIDER THE PLACEMENT OF 6TH LORD IN THE HOUSE AS 8- BINDUS. > IN OUR CASE THE RESULT OF MARS IN 11TH HOUSE WOULD BEHAVE LIKE MARS > HAD 1 POINT I.E. (8-7 BINDU). > IF THAT WERE THE CASE THEN WOUDNT MARS REDUCE THE EFFECTS OF THE 11TH > HOUSE MEANING IT SHOULD REDUCE THE INCOME + ASPECT WITH -7 BINDUS AND > HENCE ALSO DEVOID 2ND, 7TH AND 6TH HOUSE RESULTS. > > IF THE ABOVE WERE TO BE TRUE, THEN IN 2ND CASE IF MARS WERE TO HAVE > SAY 3 BINDUS AND PLACED IN 11TH HOUSE THEN IT AGAIN WOULD DEVOID 11TH > HOUSE AS IT WOULD HAVE 3 BINDUS FOR THE HOUSE ITS PLACED BUT WHAT > HAPPENS TO ITS ASPECTS WHICH IT WOULD CAST WITH +5 ? HOW TO TREAT THE > ASPECT OF +5 BY THE 6TH LORD ? WOULD IT STILL HURT THE HOUSE IT > ASPECTS ? > > THIS WAS ONE AREA THAT I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT. > > > His aspect on 2nd house could hurt family life, he could be > > an uprooted person or somebody who has to live abroad. But > > Mars could give good results in his sub for income > > depending on his strength. > > His aspect on the 5th house will definitely bring worries > > with children or childbirth; or he could have no male > > children. It also depends on other factors of course. > > The aspect on the 6th house, which is his own house, can by > > nature not be so bad. It depends on the points Mars has. By > > the way Mars and Saturn are better sixth lords because they > > usually have less points. Jupiter is really the bad one as > > 6th lord because he usually has high points. > > ASH : THE FIRST POINT REGARDING MARS GIVING GOOD INCOME COULD BE > CLARIFIED BY THE REASONING OR CLARIFICATION THAT I HAVE ASKED FOR IN > THE PREVIOUS POINT. > > REGARDING, MARS AND SATURN BEING GOOD IN THE 6TH HOUSE, YES I AGREE > ABSOLUTELY, BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MARS AND SATURN BEING > NATURAL MALEFICS BY THEIR INHERENT NATURE CAN CAUSE DEATH, BUT IF > PLACED IN DUSHTANA, THEN THEY WOULD ASPECT A,B,C HOUSE FROM 8TH HOUSE > THEREBY NOT BEING ABLE TO GIVE DEATH IN THEIR MAIN OR SUB PERIOD. > > B = 8TH HOUSE, A=3RD HOUSE AND C=12TH HOUSE. > > SHANI IN 6TH WOULD ASPECT 8TH, 12TH AND 3RD HOUSE > MARS IN THE 6TH WOULD ASPECT 9TH, 12TH, 1ST HOUSE. > > BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT REGARDING POINTS THAT GENERALLY MARS AND > SATURN WOULD HAVE WOULD BE < 4 IN MOST GENERAL CASES. > > THIS WAY OF THINKING WAS NEW, AND I LEARNT SOMETHING NEW > > > > 3 - 4- 5th) > > I think debts and loans are seen from the same house > > because anyway you have to buy something back either you > > loan or your debt, so I would look at the 12th which means > > the " expense " to pay back. I think the 8th is to be > > consulted for " savings " . You could look at both : if a sub > > has high points for the 12th = big expenses; if this same > > planet has low points in the 8th = no savings. > > > > ASH : SO DEBT AND LOANS (FOR PROPERTY, BUSINESS ETC) ARE TO BE SEEN > FROM 6TH HOUSE ? > > > > 6) > > Sun and Moon are of course 6th lords for Aquarius and > > Pisces ascendent but they don't have the malefic nature of > > 6th lord planets > > ASH : SO I GUESS, AQUARIUS AND PISCES ARE SPECIAL SIGNS. MAYBE THATS > WHY AQUARIUS IS CALLED THE INTELLECTUAL SIGN AND PISCES IS CALLED THE > SPIRITUAL HOUSE OR HOUSE OF THE MAHARISHIS. > > > > > 7) > > A planet that becomes samdharmi to 6th lord can become > > malefic only if the 6th lord is in the 10th place from > > another planet with less points. > > A conjunction with 6th lord will not affect the planet I > > think ?? Anyway in other conjunctions it works like that, > > but in fact I'm not too sure. > > > > ASH : I THOUGHT THAT ANY PLANET CONJOINING THE 6TH LORD OF IN ITS > ASPECT OR IN THE NAVAMSA OF THE 6TH LORD THE RESULTS OF THAT HOUSE > WOULD BE SPOILED OR REDUCED. ALL THESE LED ME TO THINK THAT THOSE > CONDITIONS ARE FOR BECOMING SAMDHARMI AND HENCE ITS BETTER THAT NO > PLANET BECOME SAMDHARMI TO THE 6TH LORD. MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY > THIS ??? > > > 8) > > planets aspected by the 6th lord will suffer more or less > > depending the strength of the malefic sight (points of 6th > > lord) > > > > ASH : AGAIN I AM CONFUSED BECAUSE I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER KRUSHNAJI > STATING SOMEWHERE THAT 6TH LORD WAS KINDA SPECIAL AND ITS RESULTS HAD > TO TREAT AS (8-BINDUS OF 6TH LORD). > > > 9) > > planets samdharmi to 6th lord will give results for the 6th > > lord if they have enough points, are significators, and if > > their sub comes first > > ASH : KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY THIS REGARDING HOW THE SAMDHARMI OF THE > 6TH LORD WILL BEHAVE AS PER THE 2ND PERVIOUS POINT. > > > > > 10) > > planets in the 6th with more points do not act necessarily > > as the 6th lord. In you example they would be in house E > > and become thus strong for giving results for the 1st > > > > ASH : YES FOR 1ST HOUSE, BUT AGAIN THE CONFUSION WAS THE FACT THAT I > WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT 6TH LORD AND PLANETS IN THE 6TH HOUSE > BOTH PLAY THE PART OF CULPRITSHIP. SO MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY > THIS. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO SEE BASED ON HOUSE B. I AGREE > THAT PLANETS IN THE 6TH HOUSE WITH HIGH POINTS WILL NOT BE HARMFUL > FOR 1ST AND 9TH HOUSE (HOUSE D AND E). > > > I think that if we look at an event in life to a particular > > house as B we also have to make out if the lords of D and E > > have a relationship with the 6th lord; if this is the case, > > no positive result can be expected. > > > > Well, I don't know if this helps. But if you have a chart > > just give the data, otherwise I can look in my own to see > > if I find this combination. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > ASH : YES THIS MAIL HAS HELPED ME A LOT AND MADE ME THINK. I TRIED > TO MEDITATE ON THESE POINTS AND CAME UP WITH A FEW MORE THAT I HAVE > ASKED. > THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO EXPLAIN THESE POINTS TO ME. I REALLY > APPRECIATE IT. > > I JUST HOPE THAT OTHER MEMBERS ON THIS LIST ARE ALSO LEARNING IN THIS > PROCESS. > > THANKS, > CHEERS !!! > ASH > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: > > 5/24/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Dear Krushnaji and Margarita, Thank you for help in clarifying my doubts. Yes indeed it was a very stimulating discussion but as usual, your email is an heavy one and it will take me time to understand it fully and do justice to it. If I have any further questions come up during my thought process, I will not hesitate to ask. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " krushanain " <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Ash, Margarita and list members, > A good discussion about 6th lord. Jupiter is known as most > beneficial planet, but as a sixth lord it is most malefic planet. > Saturn and Mars are natural malefic, so their effect as a sixth lord > is malefic, but it is less then Jupiter. Again all the planets Except > Sun and Moon are having Dual lord ship. So it must act in both the > houses. > One case: Suppose there is Cancer lagna, and Jupiter is > situated in Lagna house. Now it is having more role, 1) as sixth > lord, 2)as 9th Lord, 3) lord of house E for Lagna, 4) lord of house E > for 12th house, 4) LOE for 4th, 5) LoD for 9th 6) Karak for 11th, 7) > Karak for 2nd. > If such Jupiter is situated in 1st house, with more points > say above 6 at least, so more prominent result can be achived. It > aspects 5th. 7th and 9th house. So following results can be expected: > In Venus Main or the main period of planet situated in 11th > house or samdharmi to Venus, death of father in Jupiter Sub. > In Mercury Main Jupiter sub may get seperation from > Family. In main of 12th house Jupiter sub some dispute with > Children or Seperation etc. > Again Being Lord of 9th house and other Role, it will give > the person very much respect. > > In short, no planet is Sixth lord is not alone, it is > having some other role also. As it gives bad results, it also give > better result due to lord ship of other house but the result will not > be purely good, it may have some thing to loose. > *******Yes to get the idea of the result, the Sixth lord may be > assumed as being 8 - its points. > ******* Sixth lord even with more points, or less points > reduces the result of the houses it aspects. > ******* Mars in 11 ( sixth lord) If gives good income, but it > will revert the same. It gives income due to bribe etc. which will be > opened, and may be resulted in some law action. > > ******* If any planet becames samdharmi to, Sixth lord, it may > give result similar to sixth lord, but at the same time it will have > it's own entity. Mercury perticularly as samdharmi to sixth lord, > will be spoiled. > krushna > > > > I will try to explain the way how I see some points. But I > > > must agree that it is rather difficult to judge one aspect > > > of a chart separately from all the rest. So if you have a > > > particular chart in mind with this combination, we could > > > discuss one topic (wealth or income for example) weighing > > > out all the different factors involved. If in doubt we > > > could then ask Krushna for assistance. > > > 1) and 2) > > > As 6th lord Mars will always hurt by sight, but he cannot > > > hurt all aspects of life. It also depends much on his > > > points and the aspects of other planets. Mars for scorpio > > > ascendent wil give enemies and worries but placed in > > > Mercury sign the person will have capacity to overcome > > > obstacles caused by others. If he has high points in the > > > 11th he will be good for income but hurt the 5th. All > > > things in life are mixed. I think income will also depend > > > on other factors in the chart. > > > > ASH : JUST TO CLARIFY, IF 6TH LORD HAS HIGH POINTS EG. MARS IN OUR > > CASE HERE IF HE HAD SAY 7 BINDUS AND PLACED IN 11TH HOUSE, THEN THE > > HOUSE IT ASPECTS WOULD BE -7 BINDUS AND WOULD DEVOID THOSE HOUSE OF > > RESULTS. I REMEMBER READING A POST OF KRUSHNAJI SOME TIME BACK > THAT > > FOR US TO CONSIDER THE PLACEMENT OF 6TH LORD IN THE HOUSE AS 8- > BINDUS. > > IN OUR CASE THE RESULT OF MARS IN 11TH HOUSE WOULD BEHAVE LIKE MARS > > HAD 1 POINT I.E. (8-7 BINDU). > > IF THAT WERE THE CASE THEN WOUDNT MARS REDUCE THE EFFECTS OF THE > 11TH > > HOUSE MEANING IT SHOULD REDUCE THE INCOME + ASPECT WITH -7 BINDUS > AND > > HENCE ALSO DEVOID 2ND, 7TH AND 6TH HOUSE RESULTS. > > > > IF THE ABOVE WERE TO BE TRUE, THEN IN 2ND CASE IF MARS WERE TO HAVE > > SAY 3 BINDUS AND PLACED IN 11TH HOUSE THEN IT AGAIN WOULD DEVOID > 11TH > > HOUSE AS IT WOULD HAVE 3 BINDUS FOR THE HOUSE ITS PLACED BUT WHAT > > HAPPENS TO ITS ASPECTS WHICH IT WOULD CAST WITH +5 ? HOW TO TREAT > THE > > ASPECT OF +5 BY THE 6TH LORD ? WOULD IT STILL HURT THE HOUSE IT > > ASPECTS ? > > > > THIS WAS ONE AREA THAT I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT. > > > > > His aspect on 2nd house could hurt family life, he could be > > > an uprooted person or somebody who has to live abroad. But > > > Mars could give good results in his sub for income > > > depending on his strength. > > > His aspect on the 5th house will definitely bring worries > > > with children or childbirth; or he could have no male > > > children. It also depends on other factors of course. > > > The aspect on the 6th house, which is his own house, can by > > > nature not be so bad. It depends on the points Mars has. By > > > the way Mars and Saturn are better sixth lords because they > > > usually have less points. Jupiter is really the bad one as > > > 6th lord because he usually has high points. > > > > ASH : THE FIRST POINT REGARDING MARS GIVING GOOD INCOME COULD BE > > CLARIFIED BY THE REASONING OR CLARIFICATION THAT I HAVE ASKED FOR > IN > > THE PREVIOUS POINT. > > > > REGARDING, MARS AND SATURN BEING GOOD IN THE 6TH HOUSE, YES I AGREE > > ABSOLUTELY, BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MARS AND SATURN > BEING > > NATURAL MALEFICS BY THEIR INHERENT NATURE CAN CAUSE DEATH, BUT IF > > PLACED IN DUSHTANA, THEN THEY WOULD ASPECT A,B,C HOUSE FROM 8TH > HOUSE > > THEREBY NOT BEING ABLE TO GIVE DEATH IN THEIR MAIN OR SUB PERIOD. > > > > B = 8TH HOUSE, A=3RD HOUSE AND C=12TH HOUSE. > > > > SHANI IN 6TH WOULD ASPECT 8TH, 12TH AND 3RD HOUSE > > MARS IN THE 6TH WOULD ASPECT 9TH, 12TH, 1ST HOUSE. > > > > BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT REGARDING POINTS THAT GENERALLY MARS > AND > > SATURN WOULD HAVE WOULD BE < 4 IN MOST GENERAL CASES. > > > > THIS WAY OF THINKING WAS NEW, AND I LEARNT SOMETHING NEW > > > > > > > 3 - 4- 5th) > > > I think debts and loans are seen from the same house > > > because anyway you have to buy something back either you > > > loan or your debt, so I would look at the 12th which means > > > the " expense " to pay back. I think the 8th is to be > > > consulted for " savings " . You could look at both : if a sub > > > has high points for the 12th = big expenses; if this same > > > planet has low points in the 8th = no savings. > > > > > > > ASH : SO DEBT AND LOANS (FOR PROPERTY, BUSINESS ETC) ARE TO BE SEEN > > FROM 6TH HOUSE ? > > > > > > > 6) > > > Sun and Moon are of course 6th lords for Aquarius and > > > Pisces ascendent but they don't have the malefic nature of > > > 6th lord planets > > > > ASH : SO I GUESS, AQUARIUS AND PISCES ARE SPECIAL SIGNS. MAYBE > THATS > > WHY AQUARIUS IS CALLED THE INTELLECTUAL SIGN AND PISCES IS CALLED > THE > > SPIRITUAL HOUSE OR HOUSE OF THE MAHARISHIS. > > > > > > > > 7) > > > A planet that becomes samdharmi to 6th lord can become > > > malefic only if the 6th lord is in the 10th place from > > > another planet with less points. > > > A conjunction with 6th lord will not affect the planet I > > > think ?? Anyway in other conjunctions it works like that, > > > but in fact I'm not too sure. > > > > > > > ASH : I THOUGHT THAT ANY PLANET CONJOINING THE 6TH LORD OF IN ITS > > ASPECT OR IN THE NAVAMSA OF THE 6TH LORD THE RESULTS OF THAT HOUSE > > WOULD BE SPOILED OR REDUCED. ALL THESE LED ME TO THINK THAT THOSE > > CONDITIONS ARE FOR BECOMING SAMDHARMI AND HENCE ITS BETTER THAT NO > > PLANET BECOME SAMDHARMI TO THE 6TH LORD. MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN > CLARIFY > > THIS ??? > > > > > 8) > > > planets aspected by the 6th lord will suffer more or less > > > depending the strength of the malefic sight (points of 6th > > > lord) > > > > > > > ASH : AGAIN I AM CONFUSED BECAUSE I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER KRUSHNAJI > > STATING SOMEWHERE THAT 6TH LORD WAS KINDA SPECIAL AND ITS RESULTS > HAD > > TO TREAT AS (8-BINDUS OF 6TH LORD). > > > > > 9) > > > planets samdharmi to 6th lord will give results for the 6th > > > lord if they have enough points, are significators, and if > > > their sub comes first > > > > ASH : KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY THIS REGARDING HOW THE SAMDHARMI OF THE > > 6TH LORD WILL BEHAVE AS PER THE 2ND PERVIOUS POINT. > > > > > > > > 10) > > > planets in the 6th with more points do not act necessarily > > > as the 6th lord. In you example they would be in house E > > > and become thus strong for giving results for the 1st > > > > > > > ASH : YES FOR 1ST HOUSE, BUT AGAIN THE CONFUSION WAS THE FACT THAT > I > > WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT 6TH LORD AND PLANETS IN THE 6TH HOUSE > > BOTH PLAY THE PART OF CULPRITSHIP. SO MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY > > THIS. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO SEE BASED ON HOUSE B. I > AGREE > > THAT PLANETS IN THE 6TH HOUSE WITH HIGH POINTS WILL NOT BE HARMFUL > > FOR 1ST AND 9TH HOUSE (HOUSE D AND E). > > > > > I think that if we look at an event in life to a particular > > > house as B we also have to make out if the lords of D and E > > > have a relationship with the 6th lord; if this is the case, > > > no positive result can be expected. > > > > > > Well, I don't know if this helps. But if you have a chart > > > just give the data, otherwise I can look in my own to see > > > if I find this combination. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > > ASH : YES THIS MAIL HAS HELPED ME A LOT AND MADE ME THINK. I TRIED > > TO MEDITATE ON THESE POINTS AND CAME UP WITH A FEW MORE THAT I HAVE > > ASKED. > > THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO EXPLAIN THESE POINTS TO ME. I REALLY > > APPRECIATE IT. > > > > I JUST HOPE THAT OTHER MEMBERS ON THIS LIST ARE ALSO LEARNING IN > THIS > > PROCESS. > > > > THANKS, > > CHEERS !!! > > ASH > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: > > > 5/24/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Dear Krushnaji, I was trying to understand how have you approached the Main/Sub with Guru in 1st with 6 bindus. I could not figure out a few things. Cancer lagna with Guru in 1st with 6 bindus. 1) Guru is Lord of 6th (OK) 2) Guru is Lord of 9th (OK) 3) Guru is LOE for Lagna (OK) 4) Guru is LOE for 4th (OK) 5) Guru is LOD for 9th (OK) 6) Guru is FK for 2nd (OK) 7) Guru is FK for 11th (OK) Now Guru will play roles of all of these above. Now you have analysed Main/Sub and how to approach it. 1) Venus or Planet in 11th or Samdharmi to Venus Main / Guru Sub. ******************************* Question When you say planets in 11th is it any planet or planet with bindus > 4 ???? ******************************* So we are taking Venus Main. Venus is 8th from 9th house thereby its Mahadasa could confer death to Father. (OK) We take Guru sub, now Guru being 10th from 4th house i.e. planet in LOD with > 4 points also are eager to give results. So based on that law, it can confer death to father. (OK) 2) Mercury Main / Guru Sub. Mercury is Lord of 3rd and 12th house. You said " In Mercury Main Jupiter sub may get seperation from Family. In main of 12th house Jupiter sub some dispute with Children or Seperation etc. " ************************************************* Question How have you calculated the Seperation from Family. With Cancer lagna 12th lord is also Mercury so how have you got dispute with children or seperation ? ************************************************* ************************************************** Question 3 How have you considered the strength of Guru. Its with 6 bindus so have you considered it as delivering results of (8-6=2 bindus) ? ************************************************** Could you help me understand these. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " krushanain " <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Ash, Margarita and list members, > A good discussion about 6th lord. Jupiter is known as most > beneficial planet, but as a sixth lord it is most malefic planet. > Saturn and Mars are natural malefic, so their effect as a sixth lord > is malefic, but it is less then Jupiter. Again all the planets Except > Sun and Moon are having Dual lord ship. So it must act in both the > houses. > One case: Suppose there is Cancer lagna, and Jupiter is > situated in Lagna house. Now it is having more role, 1) as sixth > lord, 2)as 9th Lord, 3) lord of house E for Lagna, 4) lord of house E > for 12th house, 4) LOE for 4th, 5) LoD for 9th 6) Karak for 11th, 7) > Karak for 2nd. > If such Jupiter is situated in 1st house, with more points > say above 6 at least, so more prominent result can be achived. It > aspects 5th. 7th and 9th house. So following results can be expected: > In Venus Main or the main period of planet situated in 11th > house or samdharmi to Venus, death of father in Jupiter Sub. > In Mercury Main Jupiter sub may get seperation from > Family. In main of 12th house Jupiter sub some dispute with > Children or Seperation etc. > Again Being Lord of 9th house and other Role, it will give > the person very much respect. > > In short, no planet is Sixth lord is not alone, it is > having some other role also. As it gives bad results, it also give > better result due to lord ship of other house but the result will not > be purely good, it may have some thing to loose. > *******Yes to get the idea of the result, the Sixth lord may be > assumed as being 8 - its points. > ******* Sixth lord even with more points, or less points > reduces the result of the houses it aspects. > ******* Mars in 11 ( sixth lord) If gives good income, but it > will revert the same. It gives income due to bribe etc. which will be > opened, and may be resulted in some law action. > > ******* If any planet becames samdharmi to, Sixth lord, it may > give result similar to sixth lord, but at the same time it will have > it's own entity. Mercury perticularly as samdharmi to sixth lord, > will be spoiled. > krushna > > > > I will try to explain the way how I see some points. But I > > > must agree that it is rather difficult to judge one aspect > > > of a chart separately from all the rest. So if you have a > > > particular chart in mind with this combination, we could > > > discuss one topic (wealth or income for example) weighing > > > out all the different factors involved. If in doubt we > > > could then ask Krushna for assistance. > > > 1) and 2) > > > As 6th lord Mars will always hurt by sight, but he cannot > > > hurt all aspects of life. It also depends much on his > > > points and the aspects of other planets. Mars for scorpio > > > ascendent wil give enemies and worries but placed in > > > Mercury sign the person will have capacity to overcome > > > obstacles caused by others. If he has high points in the > > > 11th he will be good for income but hurt the 5th. All > > > things in life are mixed. I think income will also depend > > > on other factors in the chart. > > > > ASH : JUST TO CLARIFY, IF 6TH LORD HAS HIGH POINTS EG. MARS IN OUR > > CASE HERE IF HE HAD SAY 7 BINDUS AND PLACED IN 11TH HOUSE, THEN THE > > HOUSE IT ASPECTS WOULD BE -7 BINDUS AND WOULD DEVOID THOSE HOUSE OF > > RESULTS. I REMEMBER READING A POST OF KRUSHNAJI SOME TIME BACK > THAT > > FOR US TO CONSIDER THE PLACEMENT OF 6TH LORD IN THE HOUSE AS 8- > BINDUS. > > IN OUR CASE THE RESULT OF MARS IN 11TH HOUSE WOULD BEHAVE LIKE MARS > > HAD 1 POINT I.E. (8-7 BINDU). > > IF THAT WERE THE CASE THEN WOUDNT MARS REDUCE THE EFFECTS OF THE > 11TH > > HOUSE MEANING IT SHOULD REDUCE THE INCOME + ASPECT WITH -7 BINDUS > AND > > HENCE ALSO DEVOID 2ND, 7TH AND 6TH HOUSE RESULTS. > > > > IF THE ABOVE WERE TO BE TRUE, THEN IN 2ND CASE IF MARS WERE TO HAVE > > SAY 3 BINDUS AND PLACED IN 11TH HOUSE THEN IT AGAIN WOULD DEVOID > 11TH > > HOUSE AS IT WOULD HAVE 3 BINDUS FOR THE HOUSE ITS PLACED BUT WHAT > > HAPPENS TO ITS ASPECTS WHICH IT WOULD CAST WITH +5 ? HOW TO TREAT > THE > > ASPECT OF +5 BY THE 6TH LORD ? WOULD IT STILL HURT THE HOUSE IT > > ASPECTS ? > > > > THIS WAS ONE AREA THAT I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT. > > > > > His aspect on 2nd house could hurt family life, he could be > > > an uprooted person or somebody who has to live abroad. But > > > Mars could give good results in his sub for income > > > depending on his strength. > > > His aspect on the 5th house will definitely bring worries > > > with children or childbirth; or he could have no male > > > children. It also depends on other factors of course. > > > The aspect on the 6th house, which is his own house, can by > > > nature not be so bad. It depends on the points Mars has. By > > > the way Mars and Saturn are better sixth lords because they > > > usually have less points. Jupiter is really the bad one as > > > 6th lord because he usually has high points. > > > > ASH : THE FIRST POINT REGARDING MARS GIVING GOOD INCOME COULD BE > > CLARIFIED BY THE REASONING OR CLARIFICATION THAT I HAVE ASKED FOR > IN > > THE PREVIOUS POINT. > > > > REGARDING, MARS AND SATURN BEING GOOD IN THE 6TH HOUSE, YES I AGREE > > ABSOLUTELY, BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MARS AND SATURN > BEING > > NATURAL MALEFICS BY THEIR INHERENT NATURE CAN CAUSE DEATH, BUT IF > > PLACED IN DUSHTANA, THEN THEY WOULD ASPECT A,B,C HOUSE FROM 8TH > HOUSE > > THEREBY NOT BEING ABLE TO GIVE DEATH IN THEIR MAIN OR SUB PERIOD. > > > > B = 8TH HOUSE, A=3RD HOUSE AND C=12TH HOUSE. > > > > SHANI IN 6TH WOULD ASPECT 8TH, 12TH AND 3RD HOUSE > > MARS IN THE 6TH WOULD ASPECT 9TH, 12TH, 1ST HOUSE. > > > > BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT REGARDING POINTS THAT GENERALLY MARS > AND > > SATURN WOULD HAVE WOULD BE < 4 IN MOST GENERAL CASES. > > > > THIS WAY OF THINKING WAS NEW, AND I LEARNT SOMETHING NEW > > > > > > > 3 - 4- 5th) > > > I think debts and loans are seen from the same house > > > because anyway you have to buy something back either you > > > loan or your debt, so I would look at the 12th which means > > > the " expense " to pay back. I think the 8th is to be > > > consulted for " savings " . You could look at both : if a sub > > > has high points for the 12th = big expenses; if this same > > > planet has low points in the 8th = no savings. > > > > > > > ASH : SO DEBT AND LOANS (FOR PROPERTY, BUSINESS ETC) ARE TO BE SEEN > > FROM 6TH HOUSE ? > > > > > > > 6) > > > Sun and Moon are of course 6th lords for Aquarius and > > > Pisces ascendent but they don't have the malefic nature of > > > 6th lord planets > > > > ASH : SO I GUESS, AQUARIUS AND PISCES ARE SPECIAL SIGNS. MAYBE > THATS > > WHY AQUARIUS IS CALLED THE INTELLECTUAL SIGN AND PISCES IS CALLED > THE > > SPIRITUAL HOUSE OR HOUSE OF THE MAHARISHIS. > > > > > > > > 7) > > > A planet that becomes samdharmi to 6th lord can become > > > malefic only if the 6th lord is in the 10th place from > > > another planet with less points. > > > A conjunction with 6th lord will not affect the planet I > > > think ?? Anyway in other conjunctions it works like that, > > > but in fact I'm not too sure. > > > > > > > ASH : I THOUGHT THAT ANY PLANET CONJOINING THE 6TH LORD OF IN ITS > > ASPECT OR IN THE NAVAMSA OF THE 6TH LORD THE RESULTS OF THAT HOUSE > > WOULD BE SPOILED OR REDUCED. ALL THESE LED ME TO THINK THAT THOSE > > CONDITIONS ARE FOR BECOMING SAMDHARMI AND HENCE ITS BETTER THAT NO > > PLANET BECOME SAMDHARMI TO THE 6TH LORD. MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN > CLARIFY > > THIS ??? > > > > > 8) > > > planets aspected by the 6th lord will suffer more or less > > > depending the strength of the malefic sight (points of 6th > > > lord) > > > > > > > ASH : AGAIN I AM CONFUSED BECAUSE I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER KRUSHNAJI > > STATING SOMEWHERE THAT 6TH LORD WAS KINDA SPECIAL AND ITS RESULTS > HAD > > TO TREAT AS (8-BINDUS OF 6TH LORD). > > > > > 9) > > > planets samdharmi to 6th lord will give results for the 6th > > > lord if they have enough points, are significators, and if > > > their sub comes first > > > > ASH : KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY THIS REGARDING HOW THE SAMDHARMI OF THE > > 6TH LORD WILL BEHAVE AS PER THE 2ND PERVIOUS POINT. > > > > > > > > 10) > > > planets in the 6th with more points do not act necessarily > > > as the 6th lord. In you example they would be in house E > > > and become thus strong for giving results for the 1st > > > > > > > ASH : YES FOR 1ST HOUSE, BUT AGAIN THE CONFUSION WAS THE FACT THAT > I > > WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT 6TH LORD AND PLANETS IN THE 6TH HOUSE > > BOTH PLAY THE PART OF CULPRITSHIP. SO MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY > > THIS. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO SEE BASED ON HOUSE B. I > AGREE > > THAT PLANETS IN THE 6TH HOUSE WITH HIGH POINTS WILL NOT BE HARMFUL > > FOR 1ST AND 9TH HOUSE (HOUSE D AND E). > > > > > I think that if we look at an event in life to a particular > > > house as B we also have to make out if the lords of D and E > > > have a relationship with the 6th lord; if this is the case, > > > no positive result can be expected. > > > > > > Well, I don't know if this helps. But if you have a chart > > > just give the data, otherwise I can look in my own to see > > > if I find this combination. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > > ASH : YES THIS MAIL HAS HELPED ME A LOT AND MADE ME THINK. I TRIED > > TO MEDITATE ON THESE POINTS AND CAME UP WITH A FEW MORE THAT I HAVE > > ASKED. > > THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO EXPLAIN THESE POINTS TO ME. I REALLY > > APPRECIATE IT. > > > > I JUST HOPE THAT OTHER MEMBERS ON THIS LIST ARE ALSO LEARNING IN > THIS > > PROCESS. > > > > THANKS, > > CHEERS !!! > > ASH > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: > > > 5/24/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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