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hello sir

in many janam patris we find the planets named

neptune which stands for risks

pluto which stands for sudden changes

& harshal which is also an imp planet

but by observing many chart which is created by well

known

astrologers or bysoftwares

we do not found these planets in the chart

so should we consider a chart a compresensive in the

absence of these planets

or is it so that these planets can b avoided

pls comment

 

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ajay

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ajay,

Harshal, Neptune and Pluto have been discovered in the

recent years. From that time they have not completed their one round

in all the signs. How the result for different signs are judged?

In vedic time, these planets were not known. These are very

slow moving planets. Saturn stays two and half year in one sign, 30

years for one round. Harshal have been discovered in 1781. It

requires 84 years for one round. Neptune have been discovered on 23

sept 1846, and ir requires 165 years for one complete circle. It have

not completed one complete circle. Pluto have been discovered in year

1930. it stay 24 years in one sign. Means it have traveled only 3

sign.

Still details about the results have not noted down. There

is dispute about the results. There must be some planet beyond Pluto

not discovered yet.

While studying some charts, we do not find the proper reason

for some events, or some results. That might be happening due to the

effect of these planets.

As for as it is concerned for Astakvarg system, it do not

consider these planets. More and more research is required for

ascertaining the results of these planets.

krushna

 

 

, ajay dandge <kari4ajay>

wrote:

> hello sir

> in many janam patris we find the planets named

> neptune which stands for risks

> pluto which stands for sudden changes

> & harshal which is also an imp planet

> but by observing many chart which is created by well

> known

> astrologers or bysoftwares

> we do not found these planets in the chart

> so should we consider a chart a compresensive in the

> absence of these planets

> or is it so that these planets can b avoided

> pls comment

>

> regards

> ajay

>

>

>

>

>

> - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup

> http://fifaworldcup.

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Dear Krushna,

 

Do not bother about outer planets. We are westerners. So, we have learnt

(modern) western astrology before we studied Jyotish. If we were not

dispappointed by (modern) western astrology, we should no be susbcribing to

this list.

 

The problem with TRADITIONAL western astrology was different. Its first

principle was: No light, no influence. So, if the ancient astrologers had

known the outer planets, it should not have used them. He rather should have

used the fixed stars. As we see their light, they are important.

 

The western astrologers often forget this point: IF WE WERE BORN BLIND,

ASTROLOGY SHOULD NOT EXIST.

 

Best regards

Denis

 

 

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" krushanain " <krushanain

 

Sunday, June 30, 2002 8:45 PM

Re: imp planets?

 

 

> Dear Ajay,

> Harshal, Neptune and Pluto have been discovered in the

> recent years. From that time they have not completed their one round

> in all the signs. How the result for different signs are judged?

> In vedic time, these planets were not known. These are very

> slow moving planets. Saturn stays two and half year in one sign, 30

> years for one round. Harshal have been discovered in 1781. It

> requires 84 years for one round. Neptune have been discovered on 23

> sept 1846, and ir requires 165 years for one complete circle. It have

> not completed one complete circle. Pluto have been discovered in year

> 1930. it stay 24 years in one sign. Means it have traveled only 3

> sign.

> Still details about the results have not noted down. There

> is dispute about the results. There must be some planet beyond Pluto

> not discovered yet.

> While studying some charts, we do not find the proper reason

> for some events, or some results. That might be happening due to the

> effect of these planets.

> As for as it is concerned for Astakvarg system, it do not

> consider these planets. More and more research is required for

> ascertaining the results of these planets.

> krushna

>

>

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respected denise sir

now u have told that some western astrologers using

these planets

then can u pls tell me that how much these planets can

create on a chart ?

is the chart is completelly comprehensive by the

inclusion of these planets?

on the other hand western astrologers do not include

rahu & ketu in a chart

is it like that they r substituting these planets with

neptune ,pluto etc.

 

regards

 

ajay

 

 

 

 

 

--- DENIS LABOURE <Laboure wrote: >

> Dear Krushna,

>

> Do not bother about outer planets. We are

> westerners. So, we have learnt

> (modern) western astrology before we studied

> Jyotish. If we were not

> dispappointed by (modern) western astrology, we

> should no be susbcribing to

> this list.

>

> The problem with TRADITIONAL western astrology was

> different. Its first

> principle was: No light, no influence. So, if the

> ancient astrologers had

> known the outer planets, it should not have used

> them. He rather should have

> used the fixed stars. As we see their light, they

> are important.

>

> The western astrologers often forget this point: IF

> WE WERE BORN BLIND,

> ASTROLOGY SHOULD NOT EXIST.

>

> Best regards

> Denis

>

>

> -

> " krushanain " <krushanain

>

> Sunday, June 30, 2002 8:45 PM

> Re: imp planets?

>

>

> > Dear Ajay,

> > Harshal, Neptune and Pluto have been

> discovered in the

> > recent years. From that time they have not

> completed their one round

> > in all the signs. How the result for different

> signs are judged?

> > In vedic time, these planets were not

> known. These are very

> > slow moving planets. Saturn stays two and half

> year in one sign, 30

> > years for one round. Harshal have been discovered

> in 1781. It

> > requires 84 years for one round. Neptune have been

> discovered on 23

> > sept 1846, and ir requires 165 years for one

> complete circle. It have

> > not completed one complete circle. Pluto have been

> discovered in year

> > 1930. it stay 24 years in one sign. Means it have

> traveled only 3

> > sign.

> > Still details about the results have not

> noted down. There

> > is dispute about the results. There must be some

> planet beyond Pluto

> > not discovered yet.

> > While studying some charts, we do not

> find the proper reason

> > for some events, or some results. That might be

> happening due to the

> > effect of these planets.

> > As for as it is concerned for Astakvarg

> system, it do not

> > consider these planets. More and more research is

> required for

> > ascertaining the results of these planets.

> > krushna

> >

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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