Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 Hello Dasgupta, I went through your comments but I must say that I have not enough experience with vargas. Most people use them when there is something that they can't find in the rashi or navamsha. Since it was pointed out in this group, I'm now also looking at drekkanas and trimsamsas but I have a feeling that is a planet is badly placed in all vargas it really means something. So, similar events happened before and in previous dasha, so it seems that Venus is really the cause. Yes, I saw she could act for the Moon but she can also act for the Sun, second lord and can give similar results as the Sun. I think promotion should be seen also through the 5th house, 10th goes for " social status " and 6th for " reputation " and work or " job " . I must say that I'm a bit at loss because it's difficult to know which planet is going to act for whom. I cannot understand either why Jupiter bukti gave back his job with honor because Jupiter has low points for the houses concerned. There must be something wrong, I don't know. It's an interesting chart to study, thanks for submitting it. I hope your friend's troubles will be over soon. Best regards Margarita --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 Dear Margarita, The result is generally based on the rashi chart, and the points calculated from Rashi chart. Position of the Planets from div charts may confirm the status of the planet. Except Navmansha chart which is considered as equal to rashi chart, other charts may effect very negligible. For a perticular result, if we refer div chart, it may help. for Example say for child birth Saptamansha chart is recommonded. So confirming the power from this div chart for issues may help. but as a whole, div charts do not reflect. Your doubt about Jupiter Bhukti: It is explained in the answer to Dasgupta. It may be treated as having 25 points ( in my last mail I have given 17 or 18 points, calculation mistake) Here I would like to explain one more thing. We have studied so for finding the strength of the planets having 4:10 relationship. In that we have taken the planet in 10th place should have less points then the planet in 4th place. At the same time it is also told that if the planet in 4th place have less points it will give the result but will oppose in some matter. This is the case when the planet in tenth house is having less points. For example suppose X planet is situated in 10th place from Y planet. If X is having less then 4 points, then it will get power from Y. if y is having more points, there will not be any problem in the result. 2nd case: If y is having less points then X, in this case Y will support X, but with some objection. In such case the person have to loose some thing, or have to face some problem. 3rd case: If X is with more points ( more then 4), Planet Y will not give any strength to X. But X will not have any controll over Y. On the contrary they will act opposite way to each other. ( For explaining this I have given example of a Boss and a assistant, Boss a noble man means having more points, A strict boss mean with less point) Now this case, Jupiter is in the 10th place from Sun, here Jupiter is having more points (7), and Sun is with 4 points. So the result spoiled in Sub of Venus ( being samdharmi to Sun) have been rectified by Jupiter. The Person have been suspended in last period of Rahu ( mahadasha, Main period) and Venus sub period. Which have been rectified in Jupiter. If we see the points, though he might have got his post and authority but actual authority might have been regained in Saturn sub. This time he will attaind his retirement age, till this problem will be solved. In this case My sujjestion will be, as for as possible the person should compromise, other wise more loss will have to be suffered. Repeating of similar thing in Venus sub twice is not a coincident. There is some planetory game behind this. Any how I must say this is a very good chart for study purpose. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Dasgupta, > I went through your comments but I must say that I have not > enough experience with vargas. Most people use them when > there is something that they can't find in the rashi or > navamsha. Since it was pointed out in this group, I'm now > also looking at drekkanas and trimsamsas but I have a > feeling that is a planet is badly placed in all vargas it > really means something. > So, similar events happened before and in previous dasha, > so it seems that Venus is really the cause. Yes, I saw she > could act for the Moon but she can also act for the Sun, > second lord and can give similar results as the Sun. > I think promotion should be seen also through the 5th > house, 10th goes for " social status " and 6th for > " reputation " and work or " job " . > I must say that I'm a bit at loss because it's difficult to > know which planet is going to act for whom. I cannot > understand either why Jupiter bukti gave back his job with > honor because Jupiter has low points for the houses > concerned. There must be something wrong, I don't know. > It's an interesting chart to study, thanks for submitting > it. I hope your friend's troubles will be over soon. > Best regards > Margarita > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: > 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 dear margarita, the reasonings are very much clear now from krushnaji's last answer to yr mail. thank you very much for the good discussion. it is definitely a very interesting chart to study. also thank u very much for the well wishes for my friend. this has been conveyed to him regards, dasgupta - dmlettens Astrologyandtimingevents (AT) (DOT) Com Wednesday, July 03, 2002 7:19 PM friends'chart Hello Dasgupta,I went through your comments but I must say that I have notenough experience with vargas. Most people use them whenthere is something that they can't find in the rashi ornavamsha. Since it was pointed out in this group, I'm nowalso looking at drekkanas and trimsamsas but I have afeeling that is a planet is badly placed in all vargas itreally means something.So, similar events happened before and in previous dasha,so it seems that Venus is really the cause. Yes, I saw shecould act for the Moon but she can also act for the Sun,second lord and can give similar results as the Sun.I think promotion should be seen also through the 5thhouse, 10th goes for "social status" and 6th for"reputation" and work or "job".I must say that I'm a bit at loss because it's difficult toknow which planet is going to act for whom. I cannotunderstand either why Jupiter bukti gave back his job withhonor because Jupiter has low points for the housesconcerned. There must be something wrong, I don't know.It's an interesting chart to study, thanks for submittingit. I hope your friend's troubles will be over soon.Best regardsMargarita---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date:6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2002 Report Share Posted July 4, 2002 Dear Krushnaji and Margarita, How did you compute Gurus points to be 25 for 10th house. I am getting -3. I have not understood that. Could you be kind enough to explain to me what is meant by considering Guru's points being taken as opposite. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash. , " krushanain " <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Margarita, > The result is generally based on the rashi chart, and the > points calculated from Rashi chart. Position of the Planets from div > charts may confirm the status of the planet. Except Navmansha chart > which is considered as equal to rashi chart, other charts may effect > very negligible. For a perticular result, if we refer div chart, it > may help. for Example say for child birth Saptamansha chart is > recommonded. So confirming the power from this div chart for issues > may help. but as a whole, div charts do not reflect. > Your doubt about Jupiter Bhukti: It is explained in the > answer to Dasgupta. It may be treated as having 25 points ( in my > last mail I have given 17 or 18 points, calculation mistake) > Here I would like to explain one more thing. We have studied > so for finding the strength of the planets having 4:10 relationship. > In that we have taken the planet in 10th place should have less > points then the planet in 4th place. At the same time it is also told > that if the planet in 4th place have less points it will give the > result but will oppose in some matter. This is the case when the > planet in tenth house is having less points. For example suppose X > planet is situated in 10th place from Y planet. If X is having less > then 4 points, then it will get power from Y. if y is having more > points, there will not be any problem in the result. > 2nd case: If y is having less points then X, in this case Y > will support X, but with some objection. In such case the person have > to loose some thing, or have to face some problem. > 3rd case: If X is with more points ( more then 4), Planet Y > will not give any strength to X. But X will not have any controll > over Y. On the contrary they will act opposite way to each other. ( > For explaining this I have given example of a Boss and a assistant, > Boss a noble man means having more points, A strict boss mean with > less point) > Now this case, Jupiter is in the 10th place from Sun, here > Jupiter is having more points (7), and Sun is with 4 points. So the > result spoiled in Sub of Venus ( being samdharmi to Sun) have been > rectified by Jupiter. > The Person have been suspended in last period of Rahu ( > mahadasha, Main period) and Venus sub period. Which have been > rectified in Jupiter. If we see the points, though he might have got > his post and authority but actual authority might have been regained > in Saturn sub. > This time he will attaind his retirement age, till this > problem will be solved. > In this case My sujjestion will be, as for as possible the > person should compromise, other wise more loss will have to be > suffered. > Repeating of similar thing in Venus sub twice is not a > coincident. There is some planetory game behind this. Any how I must > say this is a very good chart for study purpose. > > krushna > > , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> > wrote: > > Hello Dasgupta, > > I went through your comments but I must say that I have not > > enough experience with vargas. Most people use them when > > there is something that they can't find in the rashi or > > navamsha. Since it was pointed out in this group, I'm now > > also looking at drekkanas and trimsamsas but I have a > > feeling that is a planet is badly placed in all vargas it > > really means something. > > So, similar events happened before and in previous dasha, > > so it seems that Venus is really the cause. Yes, I saw she > > could act for the Moon but she can also act for the Sun, > > second lord and can give similar results as the Sun. > > I think promotion should be seen also through the 5th > > house, 10th goes for " social status " and 6th for > > " reputation " and work or " job " . > > I must say that I'm a bit at loss because it's difficult to > > know which planet is going to act for whom. I cannot > > understand either why Jupiter bukti gave back his job with > > honor because Jupiter has low points for the houses > > concerned. There must be something wrong, I don't know. > > It's an interesting chart to study, thanks for submitting > > it. I hope your friend's troubles will be over soon. > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: > > 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 Dear Ash, Margarita, Sixth lord in sixth house, points should be taken in reverse order. Jupiter in 6th, being lord of 6th house, with 7 points, should be treated as with 1 point. krushna , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji and Margarita, > How did you compute Gurus points to be 25 for 10th house. I am > getting -3. I have not understood that. Could you be kind enough to > explain to me what is meant by considering Guru's points being taken > as opposite. > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash. > > > , " krushanain " <krushanain> > wrote: > > Dear Margarita, > > The result is generally based on the rashi chart, and the > > points calculated from Rashi chart. Position of the Planets from > div > > charts may confirm the status of the planet. Except Navmansha chart > > which is considered as equal to rashi chart, other charts may > effect > > very negligible. For a perticular result, if we refer div chart, it > > may help. for Example say for child birth Saptamansha chart is > > recommonded. So confirming the power from this div chart for issues > > may help. but as a whole, div charts do not reflect. > > Your doubt about Jupiter Bhukti: It is explained in the > > answer to Dasgupta. It may be treated as having 25 points ( in my > > last mail I have given 17 or 18 points, calculation mistake) > > Here I would like to explain one more thing. We have > studied > > so for finding the strength of the planets having 4:10 > relationship. > > In that we have taken the planet in 10th place should have less > > points then the planet in 4th place. At the same time it is also > told > > that if the planet in 4th place have less points it will give the > > result but will oppose in some matter. This is the case when the > > planet in tenth house is having less points. For example suppose X > > planet is situated in 10th place from Y planet. If X is having less > > then 4 points, then it will get power from Y. if y is having more > > points, there will not be any problem in the result. > > 2nd case: If y is having less points then X, in this case Y > > will support X, but with some objection. In such case the person > have > > to loose some thing, or have to face some problem. > > 3rd case: If X is with more points ( more then 4), Planet Y > > will not give any strength to X. But X will not have any controll > > over Y. On the contrary they will act opposite way to each other. ( > > For explaining this I have given example of a Boss and a assistant, > > Boss a noble man means having more points, A strict boss mean with > > less point) > > Now this case, Jupiter is in the 10th place from Sun, here > > Jupiter is having more points (7), and Sun is with 4 points. So the > > result spoiled in Sub of Venus ( being samdharmi to Sun) have been > > rectified by Jupiter. > > The Person have been suspended in last period of Rahu ( > > mahadasha, Main period) and Venus sub period. Which have been > > rectified in Jupiter. If we see the points, though he might have > got > > his post and authority but actual authority might have been > regained > > in Saturn sub. > > This time he will attaind his retirement age, till this > > problem will be solved. > > In this case My sujjestion will be, as for as possible the > > person should compromise, other wise more loss will have to be > > suffered. > > Repeating of similar thing in Venus sub twice is not a > > coincident. There is some planetory game behind this. Any how I > must > > say this is a very good chart for study purpose. > > > > krushna > > > > , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> > > wrote: > > > Hello Dasgupta, > > > I went through your comments but I must say that I have not > > > enough experience with vargas. Most people use them when > > > there is something that they can't find in the rashi or > > > navamsha. Since it was pointed out in this group, I'm now > > > also looking at drekkanas and trimsamsas but I have a > > > feeling that is a planet is badly placed in all vargas it > > > really means something. > > > So, similar events happened before and in previous dasha, > > > so it seems that Venus is really the cause. Yes, I saw she > > > could act for the Moon but she can also act for the Sun, > > > second lord and can give similar results as the Sun. > > > I think promotion should be seen also through the 5th > > > house, 10th goes for " social status " and 6th for > > > " reputation " and work or " job " . > > > I must say that I'm a bit at loss because it's difficult to > > > know which planet is going to act for whom. I cannot > > > understand either why Jupiter bukti gave back his job with > > > honor because Jupiter has low points for the houses > > > concerned. There must be something wrong, I don't know. > > > It's an interesting chart to study, thanks for submitting > > > it. I hope your friend's troubles will be over soon. > > > Best regards > > > Margarita > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: > > > 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Dear Krushnaji, Just a quick question regarding points of 6th lord. If the points of 6th lord were to be say 2 points, so in that case too we have to consider the points as 8-2 = +6 and then use +6 for all computations. Are there any exception to this. In your explanation below you have given that for lord of 6th with > 4 points which is clear. thanks, Ash , " krushanain " <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Ash, Margarita, > Sixth lord in sixth house, points should be taken in > reverse order. Jupiter in 6th, being lord of 6th house, with 7 > points, should be treated as with 1 point. > krushna > > , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> > wrote: > > Dear Krushnaji and Margarita, > > How did you compute Gurus points to be 25 for 10th house. I am > > getting -3. I have not understood that. Could you be kind enough > to > > explain to me what is meant by considering Guru's points being > taken > > as opposite. > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash. > > > > > > , " krushanain " > <krushanain> > > wrote: > > > Dear Margarita, > > > The result is generally based on the rashi chart, and the > > > points calculated from Rashi chart. Position of the Planets from > > div > > > charts may confirm the status of the planet. Except Navmansha > chart > > > which is considered as equal to rashi chart, other charts may > > effect > > > very negligible. For a perticular result, if we refer div chart, > it > > > may help. for Example say for child birth Saptamansha chart is > > > recommonded. So confirming the power from this div chart for > issues > > > may help. but as a whole, div charts do not reflect. > > > Your doubt about Jupiter Bhukti: It is explained in the > > > answer to Dasgupta. It may be treated as having 25 points ( in my > > > last mail I have given 17 or 18 points, calculation mistake) > > > Here I would like to explain one more thing. We have > > studied > > > so for finding the strength of the planets having 4:10 > > relationship. > > > In that we have taken the planet in 10th place should have less > > > points then the planet in 4th place. At the same time it is also > > told > > > that if the planet in 4th place have less points it will give the > > > result but will oppose in some matter. This is the case when the > > > planet in tenth house is having less points. For example suppose > X > > > planet is situated in 10th place from Y planet. If X is having > less > > > then 4 points, then it will get power from Y. if y is having more > > > points, there will not be any problem in the result. > > > 2nd case: If y is having less points then X, in this case > Y > > > will support X, but with some objection. In such case the person > > have > > > to loose some thing, or have to face some problem. > > > 3rd case: If X is with more points ( more then 4), Planet > Y > > > will not give any strength to X. But X will not have any controll > > > over Y. On the contrary they will act opposite way to each other. > ( > > > For explaining this I have given example of a Boss and a > assistant, > > > Boss a noble man means having more points, A strict boss mean > with > > > less point) > > > Now this case, Jupiter is in the 10th place from Sun, > here > > > Jupiter is having more points (7), and Sun is with 4 points. So > the > > > result spoiled in Sub of Venus ( being samdharmi to Sun) have > been > > > rectified by Jupiter. > > > The Person have been suspended in last period of Rahu ( > > > mahadasha, Main period) and Venus sub period. Which have been > > > rectified in Jupiter. If we see the points, though he might have > > got > > > his post and authority but actual authority might have been > > regained > > > in Saturn sub. > > > This time he will attaind his retirement age, till this > > > problem will be solved. > > > In this case My sujjestion will be, as for as possible > the > > > person should compromise, other wise more loss will have to be > > > suffered. > > > Repeating of similar thing in Venus sub twice is not a > > > coincident. There is some planetory game behind this. Any how I > > must > > > say this is a very good chart for study purpose. > > > > > > krushna > > > > > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> > > > wrote: > > > > Hello Dasgupta, > > > > I went through your comments but I must say that I have not > > > > enough experience with vargas. Most people use them when > > > > there is something that they can't find in the rashi or > > > > navamsha. Since it was pointed out in this group, I'm now > > > > also looking at drekkanas and trimsamsas but I have a > > > > feeling that is a planet is badly placed in all vargas it > > > > really means something. > > > > So, similar events happened before and in previous dasha, > > > > so it seems that Venus is really the cause. Yes, I saw she > > > > could act for the Moon but she can also act for the Sun, > > > > second lord and can give similar results as the Sun. > > > > I think promotion should be seen also through the 5th > > > > house, 10th goes for " social status " and 6th for > > > > " reputation " and work or " job " . > > > > I must say that I'm a bit at loss because it's difficult to > > > > know which planet is going to act for whom. I cannot > > > > understand either why Jupiter bukti gave back his job with > > > > honor because Jupiter has low points for the houses > > > > concerned. There must be something wrong, I don't know. > > > > It's an interesting chart to study, thanks for submitting > > > > it. I hope your friend's troubles will be over soon. > > > > Best regards > > > > Margarita > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: > > > > 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Dear Ash, This is only for Sixth lord in sixth house. It is not for sith lord in different houses. I remember some other time we have discussed to take reverse points for sixth lord in sixth, may be in personal mail. krushna , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji, > Just a quick question regarding points of 6th lord. > > If the points of 6th lord were to be say 2 points, so in that case > too we have to consider the points as 8-2 = +6 and then use +6 for > all computations. > > Are there any exception to this. > > In your explanation below you have given that for lord of 6th with > > 4 points which is clear. > > thanks, > Ash > > , " krushanain " <krushanain> > wrote: > > Dear Ash, Margarita, > > Sixth lord in sixth house, points should be taken in > > reverse order. Jupiter in 6th, being lord of 6th house, with 7 > > points, should be treated as with 1 point. > > krushna > > > > , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> > > wrote: > > > Dear Krushnaji and Margarita, > > > How did you compute Gurus points to be 25 for 10th house. I am > > > getting -3. I have not understood that. Could you be kind > enough > > to > > > explain to me what is meant by considering Guru's points being > > taken > > > as opposite. > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash. > > > > > > > > > , " krushanain " > > <krushanain> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Margarita, > > > > The result is generally based on the rashi chart, and > the > > > > points calculated from Rashi chart. Position of the Planets > from > > > div > > > > charts may confirm the status of the planet. Except Navmansha > > chart > > > > which is considered as equal to rashi chart, other charts may > > > effect > > > > very negligible. For a perticular result, if we refer div > chart, > > it > > > > may help. for Example say for child birth Saptamansha chart is > > > > recommonded. So confirming the power from this div chart for > > issues > > > > may help. but as a whole, div charts do not reflect. > > > > Your doubt about Jupiter Bhukti: It is explained in > the > > > > answer to Dasgupta. It may be treated as having 25 points ( in > my > > > > last mail I have given 17 or 18 points, calculation mistake) > > > > Here I would like to explain one more thing. We have > > > studied > > > > so for finding the strength of the planets having 4:10 > > > relationship. > > > > In that we have taken the planet in 10th place should have less > > > > points then the planet in 4th place. At the same time it is > also > > > told > > > > that if the planet in 4th place have less points it will give > the > > > > result but will oppose in some matter. This is the case when > the > > > > planet in tenth house is having less points. For example > suppose > > X > > > > planet is situated in 10th place from Y planet. If X is having > > less > > > > then 4 points, then it will get power from Y. if y is having > more > > > > points, there will not be any problem in the result. > > > > 2nd case: If y is having less points then X, in this > case > > Y > > > > will support X, but with some objection. In such case the > person > > > have > > > > to loose some thing, or have to face some problem. > > > > 3rd case: If X is with more points ( more then 4), > Planet > > Y > > > > will not give any strength to X. But X will not have any > controll > > > > over Y. On the contrary they will act opposite way to each > other. > > ( > > > > For explaining this I have given example of a Boss and a > > assistant, > > > > Boss a noble man means having more points, A strict boss mean > > with > > > > less point) > > > > Now this case, Jupiter is in the 10th place from Sun, > > here > > > > Jupiter is having more points (7), and Sun is with 4 points. So > > the > > > > result spoiled in Sub of Venus ( being samdharmi to Sun) have > > been > > > > rectified by Jupiter. > > > > The Person have been suspended in last period of Rahu > ( > > > > mahadasha, Main period) and Venus sub period. Which have been > > > > rectified in Jupiter. If we see the points, though he might > have > > > got > > > > his post and authority but actual authority might have been > > > regained > > > > in Saturn sub. > > > > This time he will attaind his retirement age, till > this > > > > problem will be solved. > > > > In this case My sujjestion will be, as for as possible > > the > > > > person should compromise, other wise more loss will have to be > > > > suffered. > > > > Repeating of similar thing in Venus sub twice is not a > > > > coincident. There is some planetory game behind this. Any how I > > > must > > > > say this is a very good chart for study purpose. > > > > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > , " dmlettens " > > <dmlettens@s...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hello Dasgupta, > > > > > I went through your comments but I must say that I have not > > > > > enough experience with vargas. Most people use them when > > > > > there is something that they can't find in the rashi or > > > > > navamsha. Since it was pointed out in this group, I'm now > > > > > also looking at drekkanas and trimsamsas but I have a > > > > > feeling that is a planet is badly placed in all vargas it > > > > > really means something. > > > > > So, similar events happened before and in previous dasha, > > > > > so it seems that Venus is really the cause. Yes, I saw she > > > > > could act for the Moon but she can also act for the Sun, > > > > > second lord and can give similar results as the Sun. > > > > > I think promotion should be seen also through the 5th > > > > > house, 10th goes for " social status " and 6th for > > > > > " reputation " and work or " job " . > > > > > I must say that I'm a bit at loss because it's difficult to > > > > > know which planet is going to act for whom. I cannot > > > > > understand either why Jupiter bukti gave back his job with > > > > > honor because Jupiter has low points for the houses > > > > > concerned. There must be something wrong, I don't know. > > > > > It's an interesting chart to study, thanks for submitting > > > > > it. I hope your friend's troubles will be over soon. > > > > > Best regards > > > > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: > > > > > 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Dear Krushnaji, Got it and its clarified now. Thank you. Cheers !!! Ash , " krushanain " <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Ash, > This is only for Sixth lord in sixth house. It is not for > sith lord in different houses. I remember some other time we have > discussed to take reverse points for sixth lord in sixth, may be in > personal mail. > krushna > , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> > wrote: > > Dear Krushnaji, > > Just a quick question regarding points of 6th lord. > > > > If the points of 6th lord were to be say 2 points, so in that case > > too we have to consider the points as 8-2 = +6 and then use +6 for > > all computations. > > > > Are there any exception to this. > > > > In your explanation below you have given that for lord of 6th with > > > > 4 points which is clear. > > > > thanks, > > Ash > > > > , " krushanain " > <krushanain> > > wrote: > > > Dear Ash, Margarita, > > > Sixth lord in sixth house, points should be taken in > > > reverse order. Jupiter in 6th, being lord of 6th house, with 7 > > > points, should be treated as with 1 point. > > > krushna > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Krushnaji and Margarita, > > > > How did you compute Gurus points to be 25 for 10th house. I am > > > > getting -3. I have not understood that. Could you be kind > > enough > > > to > > > > explain to me what is meant by considering Guru's points being > > > taken > > > > as opposite. > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " krushanain " > > > <krushanain> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Margarita, > > > > > The result is generally based on the rashi chart, and > > the > > > > > points calculated from Rashi chart. Position of the Planets > > from > > > > div > > > > > charts may confirm the status of the planet. Except Navmansha > > > chart > > > > > which is considered as equal to rashi chart, other charts may > > > > effect > > > > > very negligible. For a perticular result, if we refer div > > chart, > > > it > > > > > may help. for Example say for child birth Saptamansha chart > is > > > > > recommonded. So confirming the power from this div chart for > > > issues > > > > > may help. but as a whole, div charts do not reflect. > > > > > Your doubt about Jupiter Bhukti: It is explained in > > the > > > > > answer to Dasgupta. It may be treated as having 25 points ( > in > > my > > > > > last mail I have given 17 or 18 points, calculation mistake) > > > > > Here I would like to explain one more thing. We have > > > > studied > > > > > so for finding the strength of the planets having 4:10 > > > > relationship. > > > > > In that we have taken the planet in 10th place should have > less > > > > > points then the planet in 4th place. At the same time it is > > also > > > > told > > > > > that if the planet in 4th place have less points it will give > > the > > > > > result but will oppose in some matter. This is the case when > > the > > > > > planet in tenth house is having less points. For example > > suppose > > > X > > > > > planet is situated in 10th place from Y planet. If X is > having > > > less > > > > > then 4 points, then it will get power from Y. if y is having > > more > > > > > points, there will not be any problem in the result. > > > > > 2nd case: If y is having less points then X, in this > > case > > > Y > > > > > will support X, but with some objection. In such case the > > person > > > > have > > > > > to loose some thing, or have to face some problem. > > > > > 3rd case: If X is with more points ( more then 4), > > Planet > > > Y > > > > > will not give any strength to X. But X will not have any > > controll > > > > > over Y. On the contrary they will act opposite way to each > > other. > > > ( > > > > > For explaining this I have given example of a Boss and a > > > assistant, > > > > > Boss a noble man means having more points, A strict boss mean > > > with > > > > > less point) > > > > > Now this case, Jupiter is in the 10th place from > Sun, > > > here > > > > > Jupiter is having more points (7), and Sun is with 4 points. > So > > > the > > > > > result spoiled in Sub of Venus ( being samdharmi to Sun) have > > > been > > > > > rectified by Jupiter. > > > > > The Person have been suspended in last period of > Rahu > > ( > > > > > mahadasha, Main period) and Venus sub period. Which have been > > > > > rectified in Jupiter. If we see the points, though he might > > have > > > > got > > > > > his post and authority but actual authority might have been > > > > regained > > > > > in Saturn sub. > > > > > This time he will attaind his retirement age, till > > this > > > > > problem will be solved. > > > > > In this case My sujjestion will be, as for as > possible > > > the > > > > > person should compromise, other wise more loss will have to > be > > > > > suffered. > > > > > Repeating of similar thing in Venus sub twice is not > a > > > > > coincident. There is some planetory game behind this. Any how > I > > > > must > > > > > say this is a very good chart for study purpose. > > > > > > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > , " dmlettens " > > > <dmlettens@s...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Dasgupta, > > > > > > I went through your comments but I must say that I have not > > > > > > enough experience with vargas. Most people use them when > > > > > > there is something that they can't find in the rashi or > > > > > > navamsha. Since it was pointed out in this group, I'm now > > > > > > also looking at drekkanas and trimsamsas but I have a > > > > > > feeling that is a planet is badly placed in all vargas it > > > > > > really means something. > > > > > > So, similar events happened before and in previous dasha, > > > > > > so it seems that Venus is really the cause. Yes, I saw she > > > > > > could act for the Moon but she can also act for the Sun, > > > > > > second lord and can give similar results as the Sun. > > > > > > I think promotion should be seen also through the 5th > > > > > > house, 10th goes for " social status " and 6th for > > > > > > " reputation " and work or " job " . > > > > > > I must say that I'm a bit at loss because it's difficult to > > > > > > know which planet is going to act for whom. I cannot > > > > > > understand either why Jupiter bukti gave back his job with > > > > > > honor because Jupiter has low points for the houses > > > > > > concerned. There must be something wrong, I don't know. > > > > > > It's an interesting chart to study, thanks for submitting > > > > > > it. I hope your friend's troubles will be over soon. > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > Margarita > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > > > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: > > > > > > 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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