Guest guest Posted July 13, 2002 Report Share Posted July 13, 2002 Respected Krushna, listmembers, We see that his son was born in Sun/Ketu. Sun as mainlord is samdharmi to Mars who is closely involved in 5th and 12th house matters. Ketu represents Moon,Saturn and Mars (navamsha) Ketu is in house D Birth happened when Sun transited house B It's interesting to see that buktis of Mars,Venus, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn cannot give childbirth because these planets aspect one of the significator houses, so this only leaves the lights and the nodes For his death that happened in Jupiter/Moon, mainlord Jupiter is not related to lord of A, Saturn. Jupiter is lord A for the 6th house; this probably indicates the cause of his death (6th house=enemies) Moon is 8th lord Mars is lord of D and C for the 8th house, thus most involved but Moon is strongly samdharmi to Mars (natural samdharmi and in Mars's navamsha) She has enough points to bring the event and comes first Moon is also in D for the 12th house. Sun was transiting Capricorn, and Moon nakshatra So Moon, even if aspecting house A gave the result because she acted as samdharmi for Mars. I suppose his death was difficult to predict then ?? Best regards Margarita --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: 7/1/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Dear Margarita, I think you have made some thing wrong. The birth is in Sun Jupiter, so conception in Rahu. Rahu is situated in 10th house, So it represents more to Moon ( 7 points) Death is in Jupiter, Venus. Jupiter lord of 3rd and Venus lord of E. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > We see that his son was born in Sun/Ketu. > Sun as mainlord is samdharmi to Mars who is closely > involved in 5th and 12th house matters. > Ketu represents Moon,Saturn and Mars (navamsha) > Ketu is in house D > Birth happened when Sun transited house B > It's interesting to see that buktis of Mars,Venus, Mercury, > Jupiter and Saturn cannot give childbirth because these > planets aspect one of the significator houses, so this only > leaves the lights and the nodes > > For his death that happened in Jupiter/Moon, mainlord > Jupiter is not related to lord of A, Saturn. > Jupiter is lord A for the 6th house; this probably > indicates the cause of his death (6th house=enemies) > Moon is 8th lord > Mars is lord of D and C for the 8th house, thus most > involved but Moon is strongly samdharmi to Mars (natural > samdharmi and in Mars's navamsha) > She has enough points to bring the event and comes first > Moon is also in D for the 12th house. > Sun was transiting Capricorn, and Moon nakshatra > So Moon, even if aspecting house A gave the result because > she acted as samdharmi for Mars. I suppose his death was > difficult to predict then ?? > Best regards > Margarita > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: > 7/1/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 OK, thanks, I will check this. I must have been in the clouds !! Best regards Mrgarita krushanain [krushanain] Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:05 AM Re: gandhi's chart Dear Margarita, I think you have made some thing wrong. The birth is in Sun Jupiter, so conception in Rahu. Rahu is situated in 10th house, So it represents more to Moon ( 7 points) Death is in Jupiter, Venus. Jupiter lord of 3rd and Venus lord of E. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > We see that his son was born in Sun/Ketu. > Sun as mainlord is samdharmi to Mars who is closely > involved in 5th and 12th house matters. > Ketu represents Moon,Saturn and Mars (navamsha) > Ketu is in house D > Birth happened when Sun transited house B > It's interesting to see that buktis of Mars,Venus, Mercury, > Jupiter and Saturn cannot give childbirth because these > planets aspect one of the significator houses, so this only > leaves the lights and the nodes > > For his death that happened in Jupiter/Moon, mainlord > Jupiter is not related to lord of A, Saturn. > Jupiter is lord A for the 6th house; this probably > indicates the cause of his death (6th house=enemies) > Moon is 8th lord > Mars is lord of D and C for the 8th house, thus most > involved but Moon is strongly samdharmi to Mars (natural > samdharmi and in Mars's navamsha) > She has enough points to bring the event and comes first > Moon is also in D for the 12th house. > Sun was transiting Capricorn, and Moon nakshatra > So Moon, even if aspecting house A gave the result because > she acted as samdharmi for Mars. I suppose his death was > difficult to predict then ?? > Best regards > Margarita > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: > 7/1/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Well, yes the error was that the program didn't calculate the time zone, perhaps because it was before 1900 and I didn't check that and came up with a Sagittarius ascendent. So the sun was born in Sun/Jupiter Jupiter is lord of A for the 12th and has good points to do so even if he is not lord of one of the significator houses. Transit of Sun was in Venus/Sun. I don't find the combination working for the 5th house; it works better for the 11th house, then Jupiter and Sun really are involved in childbirth and transit of Sun is in house D and Venus has strong points in the 11th. As for his death in Jupiter/Venus. Jupiter is lord of A, also in the 12th navamsha. Venus is lord of B and E in E. What bothers me is that she only has 11 points !!!! Of course Saturn was the most indicated to give results (26 points), so probably Venus acted for Saturn. Transit of the Sun was in Saturn/Moon. Saturn is the strongest planet. Why didn't he then give results in his bukti ??? Is this because he was giving 8 points to the 4th and 8th houses ???? His death at that moment was not easy to guess. Best regards Margarita krushanain [krushanain] Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:05 AM Re: gandhi's chart Dear Margarita, I think you have made some thing wrong. The birth is in Sun Jupiter, so conception in Rahu. Rahu is situated in 10th house, So it represents more to Moon ( 7 points) Death is in Jupiter, Venus. Jupiter lord of 3rd and Venus lord of E. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > We see that his son was born in Sun/Ketu. > Sun as mainlord is samdharmi to Mars who is closely > involved in 5th and 12th house matters. > Ketu represents Moon,Saturn and Mars (navamsha) > Ketu is in house D > Birth happened when Sun transited house B > It's interesting to see that buktis of Mars,Venus, Mercury, > Jupiter and Saturn cannot give childbirth because these > planets aspect one of the significator houses, so this only > leaves the lights and the nodes > > For his death that happened in Jupiter/Moon, mainlord > Jupiter is not related to lord of A, Saturn. > Jupiter is lord A for the 6th house; this probably > indicates the cause of his death (6th house=enemies) > Moon is 8th lord > Mars is lord of D and C for the 8th house, thus most > involved but Moon is strongly samdharmi to Mars (natural > samdharmi and in Mars's navamsha) > She has enough points to bring the event and comes first > Moon is also in D for the 12th house. > Sun was transiting Capricorn, and Moon nakshatra > So Moon, even if aspecting house A gave the result because > she acted as samdharmi for Mars. I suppose his death was > difficult to predict then ?? > Best regards > Margarita > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: > 7/1/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Dear Margarita, The Gandhi' Chart details are as follows: Asc:12:Li:15, Sun 17:Vi:56, Mo 29:Ca:15, Ma 27:Li:24, Me 12:Li:46, Ju 29:Ar:09, Ve 25:Li:27, Sa 21:Sc:21, Rahu 14:Ca:40 The Birth of Son in Sun Jupiter, So Conception is in Sun Rahu. Sun is situated in house A for 5th house with 7 points, and Rahu is situated in 10th house house E for 5th house. As Rahu or Ketu situated in house D or E they gives the result in their sub. The Death is in Jupiter Venus, here Jupiter is lord of house A, and Venus is lord of E. As lords of D and or E are eager to give the result, they come forward. Regarding Saturn which is having highest points, but it is having it's sight on 8th house ( B) for Death, But it is lord of D also so it can give result. In Saturn sub, 1942 he was arrested and He was in Jail. I agree, as per the laws he should have died in Saturn Sub. (My comments: The Saturn if we study alone, it is not having support from any other planet. It is with Zero points for the place it is situated, and Venus is N. samdharmi to Saturn and is having atleast 3 points.) Moon, Mars, Ju, and Venus where having less points, indicates long life. When he died the average life was only 32 years in India. krushna , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Well, yes the error was that the program didn't calculate > the time zone, perhaps because it was before 1900 and I > didn't check that and came up with a Sagittarius ascendent. > So the sun was born in Sun/Jupiter > Jupiter is lord of A for the 12th and has good points to do > so even if he is not lord of one of the significator > houses. > Transit of Sun was in Venus/Sun. > I don't find the combination working for the 5th house; it > works better for the 11th house, then Jupiter and Sun > really are involved in childbirth and transit of Sun is in > house D and Venus has strong points in the 11th. > > As for his death in Jupiter/Venus. > Jupiter is lord of A, also in the 12th navamsha. Venus is > lord of B and E in E. > What bothers me is that she only has 11 points !!!! > Of course Saturn was the most indicated to give results (26 > points), so probably Venus acted for Saturn. > Transit of the Sun was in Saturn/Moon. Saturn is the > strongest planet. Why didn't he then give results in his > bukti ??? Is this because he was giving 8 points to the 4th > and 8th houses ???? > His death at that moment was not easy to guess. > Best regards > Margarita > > krushanain [krushanain] > Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:05 AM > > Re: gandhi's chart > > Dear Margarita, > I think you have made some thing wrong. The > birth is in > Sun Jupiter, so conception in Rahu. Rahu is situated in > 10th house, > So it represents more to Moon ( 7 points) > Death is in Jupiter, Venus. Jupiter lord of 3rd > and Venus > lord of E. > krushna > > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> > wrote: > > Respected Krushna, listmembers, > > We see that his son was born in Sun/Ketu. > > Sun as mainlord is samdharmi to Mars who is closely > > involved in 5th and 12th house matters. > > Ketu represents Moon,Saturn and Mars (navamsha) > > Ketu is in house D > > Birth happened when Sun transited house B > > It's interesting to see that buktis of Mars,Venus, > Mercury, > > Jupiter and Saturn cannot give childbirth because these > > planets aspect one of the significator houses, so this > only > > leaves the lights and the nodes > > > > For his death that happened in Jupiter/Moon, mainlord > > Jupiter is not related to lord of A, Saturn. > > Jupiter is lord A for the 6th house; this probably > > indicates the cause of his death (6th house=enemies) > > Moon is 8th lord > > Mars is lord of D and C for the 8th house, thus most > > involved but Moon is strongly samdharmi to Mars (natural > > samdharmi and in Mars's navamsha) > > She has enough points to bring the event and comes first > > Moon is also in D for the 12th house. > > Sun was transiting Capricorn, and Moon nakshatra > > So Moon, even if aspecting house A gave the result > because > > she acted as samdharmi for Mars. I suppose his death was > > difficult to predict then ?? > > Best regards > > Margarita > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: > > 7/1/2002 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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