Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Dear Krushna, I recently began to study the ashtakavarga system with my teacher Denis Laboure who is learning it from you. We studied several cases, some of which you had proposed. One of them is the chart of a native dead in an airplane accident on September 30th 2001, born in Bombay on March 10th 1945, 7:00 am. This person died in Saturn Saturn. From the principles, it seems that Saturn, lord of E, could bring death, and also Mercury lord of D, and Mars, samdharmi to Mercury,in the same navamsa, as Mercury is aspecting house B. Mercury gets 34 points for house VIII being B, Mars gets 30, and Saturn 22. Saturn is in 4th house from Mercury's place, but gets only 2 points where it is. As Mercury is getting 3 points in its own place, Saturn is not samdharmi to Mercury, if I understood well. I don't understand why Saturn got priority on Mercury and Mars. Is it because it doesn't aspect A, B, or C ? Does a lord of D or E not aspecting A, B or C get priority on the other planets (including another lord of D or E aspecting A, B or C)? I also don't understand how to select the great period in this death problem. From the teachings I got up to now, one should seek a planet linked to house III (A). This worked pretty well on many charts. But here I don't see any link between Saturn and house III. I would be grateful if you could help me to understand. Respectfully, Philippe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Dear Philippe, My comments below: When a planet is situated in the fourth place from any planet, The planet in the 10th place gets strength from the planet in 4th place, if the planet in the 10th place is having less points ( less then 4). Again the planet in the fourth place have more points then the planet in the 10th place, then it will help in the aim of the planet in the 10th place. But in case if the planet in the 4th place, is having less points then the planet in 10th place, it will give the strength, but it will be in negative direction. 1) In present case Saturn is having 2 points and Jupiter in the 4th place is having 4 points. So Jupiter will help Saturn in giving the result. 2) Venus is situated in the 4th place from Mars and mars is having less points (3) and Venus is having 5 points. So here also Mars will get strength. 3) Mercury is situated in the 10th place from Saturn, and also have less points (3), but here Saturn is having only 2 points. So here Saturn will give negative support to Mercury. In such case, either the planet in the 4th place will try to give the result it self, if it gets chance, or will give adverse result. Further comments below your question: " '''> > I recently began to study the ashtakavarga system with my teacher Denis > Laboure who is learning it from you. We studied several cases, some of which > you had proposed. One of them is the chart of a native dead in an airplane > accident on September 30th 2001, born in Bombay on March 10th 1945, 7:00 > am. This person died in Saturn Saturn. From the principles, it seems that > Saturn, lord of E, could bring death, and also Mercury lord of D, and Mars, > samdharmi to Mercury,in the same navamsa, as Mercury is aspecting house B. > Mercury gets 34 points for house VIII being B, Mars gets 30, and Saturn 22. > Saturn is in 4th house from Mercury's place, but gets only 2 points where it > is. As Mercury is getting 3 points in its own place, Saturn is not samdharmi > to Mercury, if I understood well. Krushna: Correct. > I don't understand why Saturn got priority on Mercury and Mars. Is it > because it doesn't aspect A, B, or C ? Does a lord of D or E not aspecting > A, B or C get priority on the other planets (including another lord of D or > E aspecting A, B or C)? Krushna: Here Mercury is getting points due to Saturn. As Saturn is having less points then Mercury, it will try to dominate Mercury, by giving the result it self.2) The lords of D and E is aspects house ABC it do not make any change in their capacity of giving the result. 3) Mars is not lord of D or E, but it is aspecting on house A, so it will not give the result. This law is also applicable to Main period. Here Mars is lord of 3rd house, but it is having it's aspect on house A, so result for 8th house can not be achived in the main period of Mars. Here Venus which is situated in the 3rd house with more points, can give the result. Again Saturn is natural samdharmi to Venus, so if it gets chance it may come forward. In this case it is lord of E. So it is more eager to give the result. So in Saturn Main period, Saturn Sub period the result is experienced. Mercury have got 6 points from Saturn, These points are not helping in giving the result, to overcome we should deduct double the points to get strength by which Mercury can supershed Saturn. So Mercury is remains with 22 points which is equal to Saturn. So it can not supershed Saturn. In case suppose Mercury would have got say 36 points then in that case, it would have got sufficient strengh to super shed Saturn. ( of cource it should have it's Anterdasha before Saturn. ) > I also don't understand how to select the great period in this death > problem. From the teachings I got up to now, one should seek a planet linked > to house III (A). This worked pretty well on many charts. But here I don't > see any link between Saturn and house III. krushna: Venus which is situated in 3rd house is with more points, So it also gets karkatva for 8th house, and Saturn being Natural Samdharmi to Venus, it came forward.........krushna > I would be grateful if you could help me to understand. > > Respectfully, > Philippe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Hello Philippe, Could you, or else somebody else give the date this chart was sent or the data for this chart. I remember it but don't find it back !!! I wanted to check Krushna's comment Best regards Margarita philippe bonin [philippe.bonin] Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:16 AM airplane accident Dear Krushna, I recently began to study the ashtakavarga system with my teacher Denis Laboure who is learning it from you. We studied several cases, some of which you had proposed. One of them is the chart of a native dead in an airplane accident on September 30th 2001, born in Bombay on March 10th 1945, 7:00 am. This person died in Saturn Saturn. From the principles, it seems that Saturn, lord of E, could bring death, and also Mercury lord of D, and Mars, samdharmi to Mercury,in the same navamsa, as Mercury is aspecting house B. Mercury gets 34 points for house VIII being B, Mars gets 30, and Saturn 22. Saturn is in 4th house from Mercury's place, but gets only 2 points where it is. As Mercury is getting 3 points in its own place, Saturn is not samdharmi to Mercury, if I understood well. I don't understand why Saturn got priority on Mercury and Mars. Is it because it doesn't aspect A, B, or C ? Does a lord of D or E not aspecting A, B or C get priority on the other planets (including another lord of D or E aspecting A, B or C)? I also don't understand how to select the great period in this death problem. From the teachings I got up to now, one should seek a planet linked to house III (A). This worked pretty well on many charts. But here I don't see any link between Saturn and house III. I would be grateful if you could help me to understand. Respectfully, Philippe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.