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Dear Krushna and all members of the list,

 

I am currently collecting all the useful information about the SAV.

 

These are some rules about the SAV. I got them from ASHTAKAVARGA MADE SIMPLE

FOR THE WESTERN ASTROLOGER by Krishnan. According to your experience, what

are the rules which work (or do not work) in your charts? Such an experiment

will be helpful for all of us.

 

IF THERE ARE MORE BINDUS IN:

 

a. 5th house as compared to those in the 7th house, the native will be an

aggressive spouse.

b. in the 7th house than the 5th house indicates henpecked husband.

c. in the 4th house as compared to those in the 6th house, the native gets

more help from relatives.

d. in the 6th compared to 4yh indicates more trouble from enemies.

....

i. in the 10th house, independant vocation.

j. in the 6th house, service under some superior.

k. in the 1st indicates high reputation.

l. in the 8th house loss of prestige, bad name.

m. in the 11th house indicates acquisition of vehicle.

n. in the 4th house indicate also acquisition of vehicle.

o. in the 9th house indicate cowardly nature.

p. in the 3rd house indicate fearlessness.

q. in the 2nd house indicate thruthful nature.

r. in the 3rd house indicates tendance to be a liar.

s. in the 5th house indicates intellect and knowledge.

t. in the 2nd house indicates good oratory potential.

u. in the 1st house indicates impressive personality.

v. in the 3rd house indicates low rank in government service.

w. in the 7th house indicates highly sensual nature.

x. in the 3rd house indicates inclination towards perverted sexual

behaviour.

y. in the Ascendant indicates long life good health.

z. in the 8th house indicates medium longevity and ill-health.

z1. in the sign occupied by Moon indicates long life and good health.

z2. in the 8th house from the Moon indicates medium longevity and

ill-health.

 

Thanks a lot for your cooperation in this research.

 

Denis

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Hello Denis,

I see you are very interested in this SAV system. I think

nevertheless that the fact that there are more bindus in

one house than in another cannot give results as explained

in the text. I think every chart is unique and many factors

will intervene to make this affirmations come true. This is

just a personal thought

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

DENIS LABOURE [Laboure]

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:01 PM

 

SAV

 

 

Dear Krushna and all members of the list,

 

I am currently collecting all the useful information about

the SAV.

 

These are some rules about the SAV. I got them from

ASHTAKAVARGA MADE SIMPLE

FOR THE WESTERN ASTROLOGER by Krishnan. According to your

experience, what

are the rules which work (or do not work) in your charts?

Such an experiment

will be helpful for all of us.

 

IF THERE ARE MORE BINDUS IN:

 

a. 5th house as compared to those in the 7th house, the

native will be an

aggressive spouse.

b. in the 7th house than the 5th house indicates henpecked

husband.

c. in the 4th house as compared to those in the 6th house,

the native gets

more help from relatives.

d. in the 6th compared to 4yh indicates more trouble from

enemies.

....

i. in the 10th house, independant vocation.

j. in the 6th house, service under some superior.

k. in the 1st indicates high reputation.

l. in the 8th house loss of prestige, bad name.

m. in the 11th house indicates acquisition of vehicle.

n. in the 4th house indicate also acquisition of vehicle.

o. in the 9th house indicate cowardly nature.

p. in the 3rd house indicate fearlessness.

q. in the 2nd house indicate thruthful nature.

r. in the 3rd house indicates tendance to be a liar.

s. in the 5th house indicates intellect and knowledge.

t. in the 2nd house indicates good oratory potential.

u. in the 1st house indicates impressive personality.

v. in the 3rd house indicates low rank in government

service.

w. in the 7th house indicates highly sensual nature.

x. in the 3rd house indicates inclination towards perverted

sexual

behaviour.

y. in the Ascendant indicates long life good health.

z. in the 8th house indicates medium longevity and

ill-health.

z1. in the sign occupied by Moon indicates long life and

good health.

z2. in the 8th house from the Moon indicates medium

longevity and

ill-health.

 

Thanks a lot for your cooperation in this research.

 

Denis

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Dennis,

These are my thoughts and Krushnaji or Margarita can correct me if my

thought process is not correct

 

SAV JUST GIVE THE GENERAL DIRECTION. IF THERE ARE MORE POINTS I.E. >

28 THEN MOST OF THE PLANETS ARE CASTING THEIR FAVOURABLE VOTE FOR

THAT HOUSE THEREBY MALEFICS CANNOT CAUSE HAVOC AS THEY WILL HAVE

GREAT OPPOSITION TO CHECK THEIR MALEFICANCE. NOW SAV ALSO INCLUDE

THE POINTS OF THE 6TH LORD AND ALSO THE 12TH LORD FROM THEIR

RESPECTIVE HOUSES, SO MY POINT IS THAT THE OVER ALL POINTS ALSO HAVE

TO BE SEEN FROM THE SPREADSHEET OR SIGNIFICATORS I.E. ROW 17 OF WORK

SHEET AS THOSE POINTS ARE FILTRED AND WITH THAT ONE CAN GET A VERY

GOOD IDEA OF WHAT TO EXPECT DURING THE ANTRA OF PLANET RUNNING.

 

TOO MUCH POINTS IN ANY HOUSE IS DEFINITELY FAVOURABLE FOR THE HOUSE

BUT ITS AT THE COST OF SOME OTHER HOUSE, FOR EXAMPLE > 32 POINTS IN

THE LAGNA CAN MAKE A PERSON VERY STUBBORN, NOW IS THIS GOOD OR BAD,

AND IF THE CORRESPONDING POINTS IN THE 7TH HOUSE ARE NOT EQUALLY HIGH

THAT CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS IN MARRIED LIFE. THIS IS ALSO BASIC HUMAN

NATURE AS ONE NEEDS A BALANCE IN LIFE AND TOO MUCH OF ANYTHING CAN BE

BAD.

 

I SHALL ADD SOME COMMENTS TO YOUR POINTS THAT I HAVE GATHRED THIS FAR

FROM KRUSHNAJI AND DISCUSSIONS AND LESSONS.

 

, " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Krushna and all members of the list,

>

> I am currently collecting all the useful information about the SAV.

>

> These are some rules about the SAV. I got them from ASHTAKAVARGA

MADE SIMPLE

> FOR THE WESTERN ASTROLOGER by Krishnan. According to your

experience, what

> are the rules which work (or do not work) in your charts? Such an

experiment

> will be helpful for all of us.

>

> IF THERE ARE MORE BINDUS IN:

>

> a. 5th house as compared to those in the 7th house, the native will

be an

> aggressive spouse.

 

ASH : FOR THIS 1ST HOUSE AND 7TH HOUSE ARE TO BE SEEN. AS PER THE

LESSONS 1ST HOUSE IS THE NATIVE AND THE 7TH HOUSE IS THAT OF THE

SPOUSE.

 

> b. in the 7th house than the 5th house indicates henpecked husband.

 

ASH : IF 7TH HOUSE HAS HIGHER POINTS THAT 1ST HOUSE THEN THE WIFE CAN

BE MORE DOMINATING. 1ST HOUSE AGAIN IS THAT OF SELF AND 7TH OF

SPOUSE.

 

> c. in the 4th house as compared to those in the 6th house, the

native gets

> more help from relatives.

 

> d. in the 6th compared to 4yh indicates more trouble from enemies.

> ...

 

ASH : IF THE 6TH HOUSE PLANET IN THE WORKSHEET FOR THE 1ST HOUSE HAS

LESS POINTS THEN THE NATIVE CAN BE OVERCOME BY ENEMY, IF THE 6TH LORD

HAS HIGH POINTS (LOE) FOR FIRST HOUSE HAS MORE POINTS THEN HE WILL

HAVE POWER TO OVER COME ENEMY. AGAIN THIS IS COMPARISION BETWEEN 1ST

AND 6TH HOUSE.

 

 

> i. in the 10th house, independant vocation.

 

ASH : HIGH POINTS IN THE 10TH HOUSE INDICATES GOOD AUTHORITY.

 

> j. in the 6th house, service under some superior.

 

ASH : 6TH HOUSE STANDS FOR SOCIAL STATUS AND HIGH POINTS IN THAT

HOUSE INDICATES GOOD SOCIAL STATUS AND FOR BUSINESS CHECK DBCE POINTS

FROM LAGNA, SUN AND MOON AS THEY REPRESENT MIND BODY AND SPIRIT.

 

 

> k. in the 1st indicates high reputation.

 

ASH : VERY HIGH POINTS IN 1ST HOUSE I.E. > 32 CAN INDICATE A STUBBORN

NATURE, LESSER POINTS THAN 28 CAN INDICATE A VERY HELPING NATURE OF A

PERSON.

 

> l. in the 8th house loss of prestige, bad name.

 

> m. in the 11th house indicates acquisition of vehicle.

 

ASH : THIS COULD BE DUE TO THE FACT THAT 4TH HOUSE IS HOUSE E AND 4TH

HOUSE CAN REPRESENT VEHICLES BUT ALSO KARAKS HAVE TO BE CHECKED FOR

VEHICLES I BELIEVE ITS VENUS.

 

> n. in the 4th house indicate also acquisition of vehicle.

 

> o. in the 9th house indicate cowardly nature.

ASH : HIGH POINTS IN 9TH HOUSE I WOULD THINK INDICATES GOOD LUCK, YES

IT IS OPPOSITE TO THAT OF 3RD HOUSE BUT HAVING HIGH POINTS MEANING

THAT FULL HAPPINESS WOULD BE ACHEIVED FOR THAT HOUSE.

 

PLUS WHEN YOU COMPARE FOR NATURE YOU SHOULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT LAGNA

AS ONE NEEDS BASIS FOR COMPARISION.

 

> p. in the 3rd house indicate fearlessness.

ASH : IT COULD ALSO MEAN A GOOD WRITER, THERE ARE MANY MEANINGS, BUT

THE NATIVE CAN GET HAPPINESS FROM THAT HOUSE IT COULD ALSO MEAN THAT

THE PERSON IS CORREAGEOUS OR PARKARAMIC AND HARD WORKING.

 

> q. in the 2nd house indicate thruthful nature.

 

> r. in the 3rd house indicates tendance to be a liar.

ASH : DONT KNOW THE BASIS OF THIS, MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY THIS

 

> s. in the 5th house indicates intellect and knowledge.

 

ASH : FOR DEGREE CHECK 5TH HOUSE AND ITS KARAK JUPITER, FOR

INTELLEGENCE CHECK FOR LAGNA, SUN AND MOON IN NAVAMSA, DREKKHAN OR

TRIMSAMSA OF SHANI. FOR HIGHER EDUCATION CHECK FOR MOON AS ITS KARAK

FOR 9TH HOUSE.

 

> t. in the 2nd house indicates good oratory potential.

 

ASH : I WOULD THINK SO, BUT IT WOULD ALSO CAUSE MORE WORRIES AS

DURING THE ANTRA OF 2ND HOUSE CAN CAUSE WORRY, KRUSHNAJI CAN VERIFY

THIS. IT IS ALSO ARTH STHAN AND WE CHECK THAT I.E. 2ND, 5TH, 8TH AND

11TH FOR WEALTH. 2ND HOUSE IS THE HOUSE OF SUSTENANCE SO 2ND FROM

LAGNA CAN INDICATE FOOD, ITS THE HOUSE A FOR MARRIAGE AND ITS LORD

BECOMES FUNCTIONAL KARAK FOR MARRAIGE SO IT COULD ALSO SHOW THE

QUALITY OF MARRIAGE.

 

> u. in the 1st house indicates impressive personality.

 

ASH : TOO MANY POINTS IN 1ST HOUSE COULD INDICATE EGOISTIC PERSON OR

A STUBBORN PERSON TOO, LOWER POINTS CAN INDIATE A HELPING NAURE.

 

> v. in the 3rd house indicates low rank in government service.

 

ASH : DBCE FROM 6TH HOUSE AND 3RD HOUSE BECOME D. I DO NOT KNOW

ABOUT GOVERNEMENT JOB. I GUESS U WOULD ALSO HAVE TO CHECK FOR THE

KARAK FOR 3RD HOUSE BEING SHANI FOR QUALITY.

 

> w. in the 7th house indicates highly sensual nature.

 

ASH : 7TH HOUSE WITH HIGH POINTS CAN INDICATE A DOMINATING WIFE.

 

> x. in the 3rd house indicates inclination towards perverted sexual

> behaviour.

> y. in the Ascendant indicates long life good health.

> z. in the 8th house indicates medium longevity and ill-health.

> z1. in the sign occupied by Moon indicates long life and good

health.

> z2. in the 8th house from the Moon indicates medium longevity and

> ill-health.

>

 

> Thanks a lot for your cooperation in this research.

>

> Denis

 

 

HOPE THAT HELPS,

CHEERS !!!

ASH

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Dear Margarita,

 

I agree with you. I only try to master each part of the ashtakavarga system.

So, I take in a separate way every bit of the system.

 

Best regards

Denis

 

 

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Dear Asham,

 

Thank you for your insights.

 

Denis

--

Pour des renseignements sur les séminaires, les consultations et les

cours par correspondance, ainsi que pour des logiciels et des leçons

d'astrologie gratuits, visitez mon site :

www.astrocours.fr.st

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" ashsam73 " <ashsam73

 

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:27 AM

Re: SAV

 

 

> Dear Dennis,

> These are my thoughts and Krushnaji or Margarita can correct me if my

> thought process is not correct

>

> SAV JUST GIVE THE GENERAL DIRECTION. IF THERE ARE MORE POINTS I.E. >

> 28 THEN MOST OF THE PLANETS ARE CASTING THEIR FAVOURABLE VOTE FOR

> THAT HOUSE THEREBY MALEFICS CANNOT CAUSE HAVOC AS THEY WILL HAVE

> GREAT OPPOSITION TO CHECK THEIR MALEFICANCE. NOW SAV ALSO INCLUDE

> THE POINTS OF THE 6TH LORD AND ALSO THE 12TH LORD FROM THEIR

> RESPECTIVE HOUSES, SO MY POINT IS THAT THE OVER ALL POINTS ALSO HAVE

> TO BE SEEN FROM THE SPREADSHEET OR SIGNIFICATORS I.E. ROW 17 OF WORK

> SHEET AS THOSE POINTS ARE FILTRED AND WITH THAT ONE CAN GET A VERY

> GOOD IDEA OF WHAT TO EXPECT DURING THE ANTRA OF PLANET RUNNING.

>

> TOO MUCH POINTS IN ANY HOUSE IS DEFINITELY FAVOURABLE FOR THE HOUSE

> BUT ITS AT THE COST OF SOME OTHER HOUSE, FOR EXAMPLE > 32 POINTS IN

> THE LAGNA CAN MAKE A PERSON VERY STUBBORN, NOW IS THIS GOOD OR BAD,

> AND IF THE CORRESPONDING POINTS IN THE 7TH HOUSE ARE NOT EQUALLY HIGH

> THAT CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS IN MARRIED LIFE. THIS IS ALSO BASIC HUMAN

> NATURE AS ONE NEEDS A BALANCE IN LIFE AND TOO MUCH OF ANYTHING CAN BE

> BAD.

>

> I SHALL ADD SOME COMMENTS TO YOUR POINTS THAT I HAVE GATHRED THIS FAR

> FROM KRUSHNAJI AND DISCUSSIONS AND LESSONS.

>

> , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Krushna and all members of the list,

> >

> > I am currently collecting all the useful information about the SAV.

> >

> > These are some rules about the SAV. I got them from ASHTAKAVARGA

> MADE SIMPLE

> > FOR THE WESTERN ASTROLOGER by Krishnan. According to your

> experience, what

> > are the rules which work (or do not work) in your charts? Such an

> experiment

> > will be helpful for all of us.

> >

> > IF THERE ARE MORE BINDUS IN:

> >

> > a. 5th house as compared to those in the 7th house, the native will

> be an

> > aggressive spouse.

>

> ASH : FOR THIS 1ST HOUSE AND 7TH HOUSE ARE TO BE SEEN. AS PER THE

> LESSONS 1ST HOUSE IS THE NATIVE AND THE 7TH HOUSE IS THAT OF THE

> SPOUSE.

>

> > b. in the 7th house than the 5th house indicates henpecked husband.

>

> ASH : IF 7TH HOUSE HAS HIGHER POINTS THAT 1ST HOUSE THEN THE WIFE CAN

> BE MORE DOMINATING. 1ST HOUSE AGAIN IS THAT OF SELF AND 7TH OF

> SPOUSE.

>

> > c. in the 4th house as compared to those in the 6th house, the

> native gets

> > more help from relatives.

>

> > d. in the 6th compared to 4yh indicates more trouble from enemies.

> > ...

>

> ASH : IF THE 6TH HOUSE PLANET IN THE WORKSHEET FOR THE 1ST HOUSE HAS

> LESS POINTS THEN THE NATIVE CAN BE OVERCOME BY ENEMY, IF THE 6TH LORD

> HAS HIGH POINTS (LOE) FOR FIRST HOUSE HAS MORE POINTS THEN HE WILL

> HAVE POWER TO OVER COME ENEMY. AGAIN THIS IS COMPARISION BETWEEN 1ST

> AND 6TH HOUSE.

>

>

> > i. in the 10th house, independant vocation.

>

> ASH : HIGH POINTS IN THE 10TH HOUSE INDICATES GOOD AUTHORITY.

>

> > j. in the 6th house, service under some superior.

>

> ASH : 6TH HOUSE STANDS FOR SOCIAL STATUS AND HIGH POINTS IN THAT

> HOUSE INDICATES GOOD SOCIAL STATUS AND FOR BUSINESS CHECK DBCE POINTS

> FROM LAGNA, SUN AND MOON AS THEY REPRESENT MIND BODY AND SPIRIT.

>

>

> > k. in the 1st indicates high reputation.

>

> ASH : VERY HIGH POINTS IN 1ST HOUSE I.E. > 32 CAN INDICATE A STUBBORN

> NATURE, LESSER POINTS THAN 28 CAN INDICATE A VERY HELPING NATURE OF A

> PERSON.

>

> > l. in the 8th house loss of prestige, bad name.

>

> > m. in the 11th house indicates acquisition of vehicle.

>

> ASH : THIS COULD BE DUE TO THE FACT THAT 4TH HOUSE IS HOUSE E AND 4TH

> HOUSE CAN REPRESENT VEHICLES BUT ALSO KARAKS HAVE TO BE CHECKED FOR

> VEHICLES I BELIEVE ITS VENUS.

>

> > n. in the 4th house indicate also acquisition of vehicle.

>

> > o. in the 9th house indicate cowardly nature.

> ASH : HIGH POINTS IN 9TH HOUSE I WOULD THINK INDICATES GOOD LUCK, YES

> IT IS OPPOSITE TO THAT OF 3RD HOUSE BUT HAVING HIGH POINTS MEANING

> THAT FULL HAPPINESS WOULD BE ACHEIVED FOR THAT HOUSE.

>

> PLUS WHEN YOU COMPARE FOR NATURE YOU SHOULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT LAGNA

> AS ONE NEEDS BASIS FOR COMPARISION.

>

> > p. in the 3rd house indicate fearlessness.

> ASH : IT COULD ALSO MEAN A GOOD WRITER, THERE ARE MANY MEANINGS, BUT

> THE NATIVE CAN GET HAPPINESS FROM THAT HOUSE IT COULD ALSO MEAN THAT

> THE PERSON IS CORREAGEOUS OR PARKARAMIC AND HARD WORKING.

>

> > q. in the 2nd house indicate thruthful nature.

>

> > r. in the 3rd house indicates tendance to be a liar.

> ASH : DONT KNOW THE BASIS OF THIS, MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY THIS

>

> > s. in the 5th house indicates intellect and knowledge.

>

> ASH : FOR DEGREE CHECK 5TH HOUSE AND ITS KARAK JUPITER, FOR

> INTELLEGENCE CHECK FOR LAGNA, SUN AND MOON IN NAVAMSA, DREKKHAN OR

> TRIMSAMSA OF SHANI. FOR HIGHER EDUCATION CHECK FOR MOON AS ITS KARAK

> FOR 9TH HOUSE.

>

> > t. in the 2nd house indicates good oratory potential.

>

> ASH : I WOULD THINK SO, BUT IT WOULD ALSO CAUSE MORE WORRIES AS

> DURING THE ANTRA OF 2ND HOUSE CAN CAUSE WORRY, KRUSHNAJI CAN VERIFY

> THIS. IT IS ALSO ARTH STHAN AND WE CHECK THAT I.E. 2ND, 5TH, 8TH AND

> 11TH FOR WEALTH. 2ND HOUSE IS THE HOUSE OF SUSTENANCE SO 2ND FROM

> LAGNA CAN INDICATE FOOD, ITS THE HOUSE A FOR MARRIAGE AND ITS LORD

> BECOMES FUNCTIONAL KARAK FOR MARRAIGE SO IT COULD ALSO SHOW THE

> QUALITY OF MARRIAGE.

>

> > u. in the 1st house indicates impressive personality.

>

> ASH : TOO MANY POINTS IN 1ST HOUSE COULD INDICATE EGOISTIC PERSON OR

> A STUBBORN PERSON TOO, LOWER POINTS CAN INDIATE A HELPING NAURE.

>

> > v. in the 3rd house indicates low rank in government service.

>

> ASH : DBCE FROM 6TH HOUSE AND 3RD HOUSE BECOME D. I DO NOT KNOW

> ABOUT GOVERNEMENT JOB. I GUESS U WOULD ALSO HAVE TO CHECK FOR THE

> KARAK FOR 3RD HOUSE BEING SHANI FOR QUALITY.

>

> > w. in the 7th house indicates highly sensual nature.

>

> ASH : 7TH HOUSE WITH HIGH POINTS CAN INDICATE A DOMINATING WIFE.

>

> > x. in the 3rd house indicates inclination towards perverted sexual

> > behaviour.

> > y. in the Ascendant indicates long life good health.

> > z. in the 8th house indicates medium longevity and ill-health.

> > z1. in the sign occupied by Moon indicates long life and good

> health.

> > z2. in the 8th house from the Moon indicates medium longevity and

> > ill-health.

> >

>

> > Thanks a lot for your cooperation in this research.

> >

> > Denis

>

>

> HOPE THAT HELPS,

> CHEERS !!!

> ASH

>

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Hello Denis,

Good luck ! If I find one of the laws in a chart I will let

you know. The only thing is that by looking too closely at

the trees, we don't see the forest any more.

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

DENIS LABOURE [Laboure]

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:38 PM

 

Re: SAV

 

Dear Margarita,

 

I agree with you. I only try to master each part of the

ashtakavarga system.

So, I take in a separate way every bit of the system.

 

Best regards

Denis

 

 

--

Pour des renseignements sur les séminaires, les

consultations et les

cours par correspondance, ainsi que pour des logiciels et

des leçons

d'astrologie gratuits, visitez mon site :

www.astrocours.fr.st

 

 

 

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Dear Krushna,

 

What is your view about this meaning of the 3rd house?

 

Thanks

Denis

 

 

> > r. in the 3rd house indicates tendance to be a liar.

> ASH : DONT KNOW THE BASIS OF THIS, MAYBE KRUSHNAJI CAN CLARIFY THIS

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