Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 Hello Margarita, I checked Diana's birth data and I think you took 7:45 am instead of 7:45pm. The latter is correct according to the data bank I questioned. So the ascendent is 26°07' Scorpio and Moon 2°44' Aquarius with ayanamsa 22°18'. Looking at the chart after consulting previous e-mails you told me about makes things much clearer. One should take house VII as B, house VIII doesn't seem to intervene. Venus is natural karak but its main period is very late. Jupiter is functional karak as lord of II, but aspects VII (B) and XI ©. Saturn which is in the same sign as Jupiter is samdharmi to it and rules the main period of the death. As for the sub-period, Saturn is lord of D and gets 15 points for house VII. Venus is lord of E and could have been candidate, with 24 points. I don't know why Saturn got priority. It is natural samdharmi to Venus but Venus being in Krittika, it can't operate as such if the information I've got is correct. Anyway, there's nothing that violates the rules in this chart. Thank you for your help. Best regards, Philippe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 Hi, I have seen several time of births for Dianne and also seen from where they were derived. I believe the actual birth data was about 2:00pm - I can't remember the actual correct time. The evening times which have been put out came from the palace whereas the afternoon time came fro Dianne's personal astrologer, who got it from Dianne. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 Yes, indeed Philippe, this makes a big difference. I must have copied it wrong sometime, somewhere.... I have to study this chart again with the new asc. About Venus in Krittika, I think that this only works in a bad way for marriage. For a birth time at 7:45 pm the dasa/bukti Saturn/Saturn was operating. Saturn being lord of A is OK but he is low points in the worksheet and also aspects house C, so he cannot give results. In the case Saturn was not aspecting any significator house he could not have given results in the first part of the bukti because he is slow moving, in Saturn's sign and navamsha, so only last part could have given results. 7th house is looked at for accidents, but then the points must be low to have an accident, not high, so only Moon could have worked for " accident " ; not Saturn who has 14 p Now considering the TOB Peter gave = 2 pm this gives a Virgo ascendant. I think TOB looks more realistic for this lady. With Scorpio asc, she should have " dominated " her husband. (37 p versus 23p); with Virgo asc, this becomes 23/31 and I think her husband is a more imposing personality With Scorpio asc Moon in the 5th is aspected by Rahu and Mars and this should have created enormous problems at the birth of her children, which wasn't the case I think. She had 2 normal children. With Virgo asc Moon moves to the 4th house and is free of this aspect.. With Virgo asc we get the Moon at 29°12 Capricorn and her death then falls at the end of her Jupiter dasha = Jupiter/Rahu. For death Mars becomes lord A Jupiter is in Mars navamsha so becomes samdharmi to Mars and this should work for the 8th house. Jupiter also becomes lord of B and D for the 7th = accidents Rahu can act for Ketu, Mercury, Mars and Sun. Rahu is in C. Sun, Mars and Mercury all have high points to give death so I think that this TOB works best. Note that Mars himself could not have given results because his aspect on house A. We should also check the date of her marriage (whatever that means!) and the birth of her children with this TOB to see how it works but to me it looks the most logical TOB for the event of death. Best regards Margarita philippe bonin [philippe.bonin] Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:59 AM Diana's chart Hello Margarita, I checked Diana's birth data and I think you took 7:45 am instead of 7:45pm. The latter is correct according to the data bank I questioned. So the ascendent is 26°07' Scorpio and Moon 2°44' Aquarius with ayanamsa 22°18'. Looking at the chart after consulting previous e-mails you told me about makes things much clearer. One should take house VII as B, house VIII doesn't seem to intervene. Venus is natural karak but its main period is very late. Jupiter is functional karak as lord of II, but aspects VII (B) and XI ©. Saturn which is in the same sign as Jupiter is samdharmi to it and rules the main period of the death. As for the sub-period, Saturn is lord of D and gets 15 points for house VII. Venus is lord of E and could have been candidate, with 24 points. I don't know why Saturn got priority. It is natural samdharmi to Venus but Venus being in Krittika, it can't operate as such if the information I've got is correct. Anyway, there's nothing that violates the rules in this chart. Thank you for your help. Best regards, Philippe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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