Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Dear Members, Following is the data of Birth, but the year is missing. Some events are given. Find the birth year. Date of Birth: 26th Feb. 19XX. Birth time : 2:30 am as recorded Place : Etava India 24:N10, 078E11. Ayanansha : 21:57:22. Events: Married in 1970/71. 1st issue: 23rd Jan 1973 (Female), 2nd Issue: 03rd Aug 1977 (Female) 3rd Issue: 30th Nov 1979.(Male) Expired on 19th Aug 2002 at 08:35 PM due to ecute heart attack. krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Dear Krushnaji, The missing year is 1937. Marriage 1970/71. is spread across - Rahu/Rahu and Rahu/Guru - 1) Delay marriage, as Distance between Venus and Sun > 43 degrees Venus is associated with Shani. 2) 6th lord in 4th house spoiling it. 3) 1 zero point in SAV due to Venus for 6th house 4) Guru with 6 bindus aspecting 7th house and 1st/7th lord from lagna, sun and moon all in 2:12 relation. Delay in marriage for after 27.5 years. 10% further delay due to 0 point in SAV making it 30 so marriage after 30 years. Dasas running after 30 are Mars/Sun, Mars/Moon and Rahu/Rahu. Sun, Moon and Rahu representing Mars and Mercury Guru is 4th lord (LOD) and eager to give results and Rahu represting Mars being LOE also can give results. So it fits nicely. Sun has 7 points and Moon has 12 points so Moon is borderline and also can give marriage. Guru is the strongest significator for 7th house and best fit. 2) First Issue 23rd Jan 1973 Rahu/Shani, Shani is LOD and has 15 points for 5th house and 17 points for 11th house (if female - but aspecting house A for 11th as B). 3) Second Issue 3rd August 1977 Rahu/Mercury, Mercury is LOE for 5th house and the strongest significator, Mercury also has 13 points for 11th house and it does not aspect A,B or C for 11th house so definitely can give results for either case if the native is male or female 4) Third Issue 30th November 1979 Rahu/Venus Venus not aspecting A,B or C for 5th or 11th house and has 12 points for both 5th and 11th house and can give results. 5) Death due to heart attack we look for accidents i.e. 7th house as B so LOD or planets in D or E > 5 points can give results Period Running is Shani/Shani For main lord is Shani we look at 3rd house or samdharmi and shani is 3rd lord, shani is weak for 8th house but since its heart attack and considered as accident hence 7th house as B checking for the strongest significator or LOD or LOE for 7th house. The strongest significator is Mars with 23 points and since its aspecting 7th house from 12th house it cant give result so Shani is the samdharmi to Mars being in the same navamsa hence it gives result. Hence Year is 1937 Plus Ananyamsa for Feb 26/2/1937 was 21:57:59. Krushnaji please feel free to correct my mistakes. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " krushanain " <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Members, > Following is the data of Birth, but the year is missing. Some > events are given. Find the birth year. > Date of Birth: 26th Feb. 19XX. > Birth time : 2:30 am as recorded > Place : Etava India 24:N10, 078E11. > Ayanansha : 21:57:22. > Events: Married in 1970/71. > 1st issue: 23rd Jan 1973 (Female), > 2nd Issue: 03rd Aug 1977 (Female) > 3rd Issue: 30th Nov 1979.(Male) > Expired on 19th Aug 2002 at 08:35 PM due to ecute heart attack. > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Dear Krushnaji, Points of D,B,C,E are in ascending order hence the first issues was a girl. I still have to work on the lesson on child birth for predicting the sex of the other issues. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji, > > The missing year is 1937. > > Marriage 1970/71. > > is spread across - Rahu/Rahu and Rahu/Guru - > > 1) Delay marriage, as Distance between Venus and Sun > 43 degrees > Venus is associated with Shani. > 2) 6th lord in 4th house spoiling it. > 3) 1 zero point in SAV due to Venus for 6th house > 4) Guru with 6 bindus aspecting 7th house and 1st/7th lord from > lagna, sun and moon all in 2:12 relation. > > Delay in marriage for after 27.5 years. 10% further delay due to 0 > point in SAV making it 30 so marriage after 30 years. > Dasas running after 30 are Mars/Sun, Mars/Moon and Rahu/Rahu. > Sun, Moon and Rahu representing Mars and Mercury > Guru is 4th lord (LOD) and eager to give results and Rahu represting > Mars being LOE also can give results. So it fits nicely. Sun has 7 > points and Moon has 12 points so Moon is borderline and also can give > marriage. Guru is the strongest significator for 7th house and best > fit. > > 2) First Issue 23rd Jan 1973 > Rahu/Shani, Shani is LOD and has 15 points for 5th house and 17 > points for 11th house (if female - but aspecting house A for 11th as > B). > > 3) Second Issue 3rd August 1977 > Rahu/Mercury, Mercury is LOE for 5th house and the strongest > significator, Mercury also has 13 points for 11th house and it does > not aspect A,B or C for 11th house so definitely can give results for > either case if the native is male or female > > 4) Third Issue 30th November 1979 > Rahu/Venus > Venus not aspecting A,B or C for 5th or 11th house and has 12 points > for both 5th and 11th house and can give results. > > 5) Death due to heart attack we look for accidents i.e. 7th house as > B so LOD or planets in D or E > 5 points can give results > > Period Running is Shani/Shani > > For main lord is Shani we look at 3rd house or samdharmi and shani is > 3rd lord, shani is weak for 8th house but since its heart attack and > considered as accident hence 7th house as B checking for the > strongest significator or LOD or LOE for 7th house. The strongest > significator is Mars with 23 points and since its aspecting 7th house > from 12th house it cant give result so Shani is the samdharmi to Mars > being in the same navamsa hence it gives result. > > Hence Year is 1937 > Plus Ananyamsa for Feb 26/2/1937 was 21:57:59. > > > Krushnaji please feel free to correct my mistakes. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > , " krushanain " <krushanain> > wrote: > > Dear Members, > > Following is the data of Birth, but the year is missing. > Some > > events are given. Find the birth year. > > Date of Birth: 26th Feb. 19XX. > > Birth time : 2:30 am as recorded > > Place : Etava India 24:N10, 078E11. > > Ayanansha : 21:57:22. > > Events: Married in 1970/71. > > 1st issue: 23rd Jan 1973 (Female), > > 2nd Issue: 03rd Aug 1977 (Female) > > 3rd Issue: 30th Nov 1979.(Male) > > Expired on 19th Aug 2002 at 08:35 PM due to ecute heart attack. > > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Hello Ash, Well you got it done quickly. I'm still working on this chart. It's more complicated then I thought. Krushna please don't say anything yet, I want to try to find out the correct year Best regards Margararita ashsam73 [ashsam73] Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:59 PM Re: Study Chart cum Quiz Dear Krushnaji, Points of D,B,C,E are in ascending order hence the first issues was a girl. I still have to work on the lesson on child birth for predicting the sex of the other issues. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji, > > The missing year is 1937. > > Marriage 1970/71. > > is spread across - Rahu/Rahu and Rahu/Guru - > > 1) Delay marriage, as Distance between Venus and Sun > 43 degrees > Venus is associated with Shani. > 2) 6th lord in 4th house spoiling it. > 3) 1 zero point in SAV due to Venus for 6th house > 4) Guru with 6 bindus aspecting 7th house and 1st/7th lord from > lagna, sun and moon all in 2:12 relation. > > Delay in marriage for after 27.5 years. 10% further delay due to 0 > point in SAV making it 30 so marriage after 30 years. > Dasas running after 30 are Mars/Sun, Mars/Moon and Rahu/Rahu. > Sun, Moon and Rahu representing Mars and Mercury > Guru is 4th lord (LOD) and eager to give results and Rahu represting > Mars being LOE also can give results. So it fits nicely. Sun has 7 > points and Moon has 12 points so Moon is borderline and also can give > marriage. Guru is the strongest significator for 7th house and best > fit. > > 2) First Issue 23rd Jan 1973 > Rahu/Shani, Shani is LOD and has 15 points for 5th house and 17 > points for 11th house (if female - but aspecting house A for 11th as > B). > > 3) Second Issue 3rd August 1977 > Rahu/Mercury, Mercury is LOE for 5th house and the strongest > significator, Mercury also has 13 points for 11th house and it does > not aspect A,B or C for 11th house so definitely can give results for > either case if the native is male or female > > 4) Third Issue 30th November 1979 > Rahu/Venus > Venus not aspecting A,B or C for 5th or 11th house and has 12 points > for both 5th and 11th house and can give results. > > 5) Death due to heart attack we look for accidents i.e. 7th house as > B so LOD or planets in D or E > 5 points can give results > > Period Running is Shani/Shani > > For main lord is Shani we look at 3rd house or samdharmi and shani is > 3rd lord, shani is weak for 8th house but since its heart attack and > considered as accident hence 7th house as B checking for the > strongest significator or LOD or LOE for 7th house. The strongest > significator is Mars with 23 points and since its aspecting 7th house > from 12th house it cant give result so Shani is the samdharmi to Mars > being in the same navamsa hence it gives result. > > Hence Year is 1937 > Plus Ananyamsa for Feb 26/2/1937 was 21:57:59. > > > Krushnaji please feel free to correct my mistakes. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > , " krushanain " <krushanain> > wrote: > > Dear Members, > > Following is the data of Birth, but the year is missing. > Some > > events are given. Find the birth year. > > Date of Birth: 26th Feb. 19XX. > > Birth time : 2:30 am as recorded > > Place : Etava India 24:N10, 078E11. > > Ayanansha : 21:57:22. > > Events: Married in 1970/71. > > 1st issue: 23rd Jan 1973 (Female), > > 2nd Issue: 03rd Aug 1977 (Female) > > 3rd Issue: 30th Nov 1979.(Male) > > Expired on 19th Aug 2002 at 08:35 PM due to ecute heart attack. > > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Dear Krushna and list members, I'm trying an answer to the exercise. I first checked some years fitting the ayanamsa. It could be 1936 or 1937. For 1936, it gives marriage in Sun/Ketu or Sun/Venus. The Sun is samdharmi to Saturn lord of II so it could work for the main period. Ketu is samdharmi to Jupiter, Mercury and Venus. Jupiter is lord of IV=D for marriage. Venus is in the navamsa of Mars lord of XII=E. This could also work but Venus being lord of VI it doesn't seem too good for married life. Venus is in the same navamsa as Saturn so it could indicate delayed marriage. For children, the first issue is in Moon/Mars. Moon is samdharmi to Mars lord of XII=A for a male native so the main period would be OK (not for a female). Mars is not lord of D nor E and has just got 6 points for house V in SAV. So it doesn't fitt for first child. Now, for 1937, marriage would be in Rahu/Rahu or Rahu/Jupiter. Rahu is samdharmi to Mercury which is in II with 6 points, so the main period is OK. Rahu is also samdharmi to Mars lord of XII=E and its sub-period could work. Jupiter is lord of IV=D so it could also give the event. As for the first child, the issue is in Rahu/Saturn. Rahu is in house XII=A and samdharmi to Mars lord of XII so the main period is OK for a male native. It is samdharmi to Mercury natural karak for a female so it could also work. Saturn is lord of II=D for a male native. It is in the navamsa of the Moon lord of VIII=D for a female and has 17 points in SAV for house XI so it could also work. The second issue is in Rahu/Mercury. Mercury is lord of X=E for a male native. It is lord of the 12th from B for a female. So it wouldn't work. I will thus assume that the native is a male from now on. The third issue is in Rahu/Venus. Venus is samdharmi to Saturn and has got 12 points in SAV so it can give a child. The death is in Saturn/Saturn. Saturn is lord of III=A if we take VIII as B. It has nothing to do with D or E and has got only 7 points in SAV. But if we take VII as B (accidents) Saturn is lord of A=II and in the same navamsa as Mars lord of XII=E. It has got 11 points for house VII in SAV so it can give an accident if we treat the heart attack as such. As everything seems to match I think the missing year is 1937. If this is the right answer, congratulations to Ash who first gave it. Best regards, Philippe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Dear Phillipe, Yes, Its good to see your analysis and hope you contribute to this list more. I only attempted it first because of the time zone probably. I had some spare time (lunch time) around the time Krushnaji posted this exercise plus the ananyamsa was given, I took this exercise to compare 1936 vs 1937 just like you and I chose 1937, but the important thing was to find out how each and every event fitted. Krushnaji has still not posted the answer (who knows we all may be wrong), I just hope others on this list also take up this exercise and try to improve upon their skills. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " philippe bonin " <philippe.bonin@w...> wrote: > Dear Krushna and list members, > > I'm trying an answer to the exercise. I first checked some years fitting the > ayanamsa. It could be 1936 or 1937. For 1936, it gives marriage in Sun/Ketu > or Sun/Venus. The Sun is samdharmi to Saturn lord of II so it could work for > the main period. Ketu is samdharmi to Jupiter, Mercury and Venus. Jupiter is > lord of IV=D for marriage. Venus is in the navamsa of Mars lord of XII=E. > This could also work but Venus being lord of VI it doesn't seem too good for > married life. Venus is in the same navamsa as Saturn so it could indicate > delayed marriage. > For children, the first issue is in Moon/Mars. Moon is samdharmi to Mars > lord of XII=A for a male native so the main period would be OK (not for a > female). Mars is not lord of D nor E and has just got 6 points for house V > in SAV. So it doesn't fitt for first child. > Now, for 1937, marriage would be in Rahu/Rahu or Rahu/Jupiter. Rahu is > samdharmi to Mercury which is in II with 6 points, so the main period is OK. > Rahu is also samdharmi to Mars lord of XII=E and its sub-period could work. > Jupiter is lord of IV=D so it could also give the event. As for the first > child, the issue is in Rahu/Saturn. Rahu is in house XII=A and samdharmi to > Mars lord of XII so the main period is OK for a male native. It is samdharmi > to Mercury natural karak for a female so it could also work. Saturn is lord > of II=D for a male native. It is in the navamsa of the Moon lord of VIII=D > for a female and has 17 points in SAV for house XI so it could also work. > The second issue is in Rahu/Mercury. Mercury is lord of X=E for a male > native. It is lord of the 12th from B for a female. So it wouldn't work. I > will thus assume that the native is a male from now on. The third issue is > in Rahu/Venus. Venus is samdharmi to Saturn and has got 12 points in SAV so > it can give a child. The death is in Saturn/Saturn. Saturn is lord of III=A > if we take VIII as B. It has nothing to do with D or E and has got only 7 > points in SAV. But if we take VII as B (accidents) Saturn is lord of A=II > and in the same navamsa as Mars lord of XII=E. It has got 11 points for > house VII in SAV so it can give an accident if we treat the heart attack as > such. > As everything seems to match I think the missing year is 1937. If this is > the right answer, congratulations to Ash who first gave it. > > > Best regards, > Philippe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Dear List Members, Sorry, again I am Busy. Giving the Correct answer as Follows. The Birth year is 1937. The marriage is delayed. So the birth time should be rectifyed. it comes to 01:30 am. This is a chrt of a male. ( 5th house satisfies child birth) Death occured in Jupiter main, Rahu Sub. Jupiter gives karak for accident (heart attack) Rahu is in first house represents Mars and Me. Saturn in the constellation of Jupiter. More detail when I get time. (The time is confirm with one more event, Sun in fourth house, devoids the person from his ancestor property. He did not get the same) krushna , " krushanain " <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Members, > Following is the data of Birth, but the year is missing. Some > events are given. Find the birth year. > Date of Birth: 26th Feb. 19XX. > Birth time : 2:30 am as recorded > Place : Etava India 24:N10, 078E11. > Ayanansha : 21:57:22. > Events: Married in 1970/71. > 1st issue: 23rd Jan 1973 (Female), > 2nd Issue: 03rd Aug 1977 (Female) > 3rd Issue: 30th Nov 1979.(Male) > Expired on 19th Aug 2002 at 08:35 PM due to ecute heart attack. > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Respected Krushna, I find this very confusing. How did we know that the chart had to be rectified ? We didn't even know if it was a male or female chart. The sex of the children was not relevant for the male chart either. As it was given took the chart as being from female. I'm waiting till you have more time to explain. Best regards Margarita krushanain [krushanain] Monday, August 26, 2002 9:04 PM Re: Study Chart cum Quiz Dear List Members, Sorry, again I am Busy. Giving the Correct answer as Follows. The Birth year is 1937. The marriage is delayed. So the birth time should be rectifyed. it comes to 01:30 am. This is a chrt of a male. ( 5th house satisfies child birth) Death occured in Jupiter main, Rahu Sub. Jupiter gives karak for accident (heart attack) Rahu is in first house represents Mars and Me. Saturn in the constellation of Jupiter. More detail when I get time. (The time is confirm with one more event, Sun in fourth house, devoids the person from his ancestor property. He did not get the same) krushna , " krushanain " <krushanain> wrote: > Dear Members, > Following is the data of Birth, but the year is missing. Some > events are given. Find the birth year. > Date of Birth: 26th Feb. 19XX. > Birth time : 2:30 am as recorded > Place : Etava India 24:N10, 078E11. > Ayanansha : 21:57:22. > Events: Married in 1970/71. > 1st issue: 23rd Jan 1973 (Female), > 2nd Issue: 03rd Aug 1977 (Female) > 3rd Issue: 30th Nov 1979.(Male) > Expired on 19th Aug 2002 at 08:35 PM due to ecute heart attack. > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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