Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Hello Ash, I went through your comments and just had following question : where do you see a 0 in the sarva-ashtakavarga points, I don't get any ??? An other issue is the conception of the first child. Normally this was during Rahu/Jupiter and Jupiter aspects house A, and has low points, so I wonder how he did the job ??? Then about death. I thought that a planet had to be weak in the 7th house to give accident. So Saturn has only 11 points which is not dramatic but he has only 9 points for the 3th, that's worse I think. As for the event of death I was just wondering if Saturn is not acting for Jupiter. Saturn is in the 4th place and has less points so I wondered if he's not acting as samdharmi to Jupiter instead of to Mars. Anyway, I find her death not very convincing whatever combination is responsible. Your mail was nice. I also checked the conception of the children with the lunar houses and they fit. There are close contacts between Moon of the children and mothers Saturn and Moon too. Next time I hope to be less busy so my mind will be more in peace and I will read the messages from A to Z !!!!! Best regards Margarita --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Dear Margarita, I get Venus giving 0 points for 6th house in SAV. I get ascendent as 5Sag31 and Moon at 21Leo27. Rahu/Guru ends on 21/01/1973 and Shani antra kicks in. The birth of Child is possible in Shani antra as Shani becomes LOD for 5th house and also has 15 points. I still do not know if the native is Male of female, so I checked for both. In 11th house Shani has 17 points so that covers if the native was female. Now as far a conception is concerned, if the native is female then we should be looking at 11th house for conception, and conception would have taken place during Rahu/Guru as for 11th house Guru is giving the highest points plus it is LOE for 11th house if the native is female. If the native is Male then Guru gives only 7 points for 5th house and the native will not become father during Guru's antra as its neither the LOD or LOE and has only 7 points. D,B,C,E points are in ascending order hence the child is female. These were my thoughts when I studied the chart. Now, I just used the ananyamsa to locate the year but like Phillipe I considered both dates 1936 and 1937 as the ananyamsa was in the middle, hence my analysis was faster. I did write that down at the end of my email, so basically I took this exercise to see how all the events fit in just like a glove About death, due to heart attach, I thought LOD and LOE for 7th house are eager to give accident (heart attach in our case). I still have not dwelved deeply into Childbirth and Death subject as I was working on Marriage so far, here is something I thought about after reading your email, 2nd house is karak for accidents in our case its Shani. Shani is in 4th house and is spoiled with the 6th lord hence LOA is in house D with 6th lord, we have also learned that if LOA,LOB or LOC is in D or E its even more eager to give results, yes I agreee that shani is in house D for 7th as B and its also acting as Samdharmi for mars as Mars is getting the highest point for 7th house and its LOE along with Guru which is also giving 23 points for 7th house. Mars is samdharmi to Shani as they are in the same navamsa. Guru is also samdharmi to Mars as Mars is the navamsa lord where Guru is placed. Hence Shani's antra comes first and it can be deputed either by Guru or Mars to do its task. Now yes my confusion is that Shani does not have 12 points for 7th house, does it still become samdharmi to either Guru or Mars ? Does 6th lord spoiling Shani makes it do that task ? I did not know that planet had to be weak for 7th house so that it would cause accident ? If so then I have learned something new. I still have not really gotten into predicting death this far. Thank you for bring out that point. I hope that I have answered all your questions, Cheers !!! Ash , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > I went through your comments and just had following > question : where do you see a 0 in the sarva-ashtakavarga > points, I don't get any ??? > An other issue is the conception of the first child. > Normally this was during Rahu/Jupiter and Jupiter aspects > house A, and has low points, so I wonder how he did the job > ??? > Then about death. I thought that a planet had to be weak in > the 7th house to give accident. So Saturn has only 11 > points which is not dramatic but he has only 9 points for > the 3th, that's worse I think. > As for the event of death I was just wondering if Saturn is > not acting for Jupiter. Saturn is in the 4th place and has > less points so I wondered if he's not acting as samdharmi > to Jupiter instead of to Mars. > Anyway, I find her death not very convincing whatever > combination is responsible. > Your mail was nice. I also checked the conception of the > children with the lunar houses and they fit. > There are close contacts between Moon of the children and > mothers Saturn and Moon too. > Next time I hope to be less busy so my mind will be more in > peace and I will read the messages from A to Z !!!!! > Best regards > Margarita > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: > 8/2/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Hello Ash, OK Venus problem is settled. Yes, I get same asc and Moon position. Well I thought conception was always a 12th house matter and childbirth mostly a 11th house matter in the female chart. I don't know why I took this chart to be of a female although nothing is said about that. Another warning that I have to read carefully !!!! I agree with you that the ayanamsa gives 1937 as the correct year. The only thing that keeps me puzzled is the death so I hope Krushna will say something about it. I think death and accident are 2 different things. If I remember well Krushna said that a heart attack means the " end of life " but with modern medicine we get some extra years or months. So I thought a planet should have less points for the 7th and more points for the 8th en eventually less for the 3th. Best regards Margarita ashsam73 [ashsam73] Friday, August 23, 2002 10:23 PM Re: chart cum quiz Dear Margarita, I get Venus giving 0 points for 6th house in SAV. I get ascendent as 5Sag31 and Moon at 21Leo27. Rahu/Guru ends on 21/01/1973 and Shani antra kicks in. The birth of Child is possible in Shani antra as Shani becomes LOD for 5th house and also has 15 points. I still do not know if the native is Male of female, so I checked for both. In 11th house Shani has 17 points so that covers if the native was female. Now as far a conception is concerned, if the native is female then we should be looking at 11th house for conception, and conception would have taken place during Rahu/Guru as for 11th house Guru is giving the highest points plus it is LOE for 11th house if the native is female. If the native is Male then Guru gives only 7 points for 5th house and the native will not become father during Guru's antra as its neither the LOD or LOE and has only 7 points. D,B,C,E points are in ascending order hence the child is female. These were my thoughts when I studied the chart. Now, I just used the ananyamsa to locate the year but like Phillipe I considered both dates 1936 and 1937 as the ananyamsa was in the middle, hence my analysis was faster. I did write that down at the end of my email, so basically I took this exercise to see how all the events fit in just like a glove About death, due to heart attach, I thought LOD and LOE for 7th house are eager to give accident (heart attach in our case). I still have not dwelved deeply into Childbirth and Death subject as I was working on Marriage so far, here is something I thought about after reading your email, 2nd house is karak for accidents in our case its Shani. Shani is in 4th house and is spoiled with the 6th lord hence LOA is in house D with 6th lord, we have also learned that if LOA,LOB or LOC is in D or E its even more eager to give results, yes I agreee that shani is in house D for 7th as B and its also acting as Samdharmi for mars as Mars is getting the highest point for 7th house and its LOE along with Guru which is also giving 23 points for 7th house. Mars is samdharmi to Shani as they are in the same navamsa. Guru is also samdharmi to Mars as Mars is the navamsa lord where Guru is placed. Hence Shani's antra comes first and it can be deputed either by Guru or Mars to do its task. Now yes my confusion is that Shani does not have 12 points for 7th house, does it still become samdharmi to either Guru or Mars ? Does 6th lord spoiling Shani makes it do that task ? I did not know that planet had to be weak for 7th house so that it would cause accident ? If so then I have learned something new. I still have not really gotten into predicting death this far. Thank you for bring out that point. I hope that I have answered all your questions, Cheers !!! Ash , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > I went through your comments and just had following > question : where do you see a 0 in the sarva-ashtakavarga > points, I don't get any ??? > An other issue is the conception of the first child. > Normally this was during Rahu/Jupiter and Jupiter aspects > house A, and has low points, so I wonder how he did the job > ??? > Then about death. I thought that a planet had to be weak in > the 7th house to give accident. So Saturn has only 11 > points which is not dramatic but he has only 9 points for > the 3th, that's worse I think. > As for the event of death I was just wondering if Saturn is > not acting for Jupiter. Saturn is in the 4th place and has > less points so I wondered if he's not acting as samdharmi > to Jupiter instead of to Mars. > Anyway, I find her death not very convincing whatever > combination is responsible. > Your mail was nice. I also checked the conception of the > children with the lunar houses and they fit. > There are close contacts between Moon of the children and > mothers Saturn and Moon too. > Next time I hope to be less busy so my mind will be more in > peace and I will read the messages from A to Z !!!!! > Best regards > Margarita > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: > 8/2/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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