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Hello all listmembers,

These are two charts from infants born 18 minutes apart.

There is no family tie between them. This is a post from

another group which I put on this list with permission.

 

Male child

June 22, 2002

5:02 pm

Yuma AZ 32N43 31 114W37 25

USA

As 3°18 scorpio -

 

Female child

June 22, 2002

4:20 pm

Grayslake, IL

42N20 40 088W02 30

USA

Asc 22°22 libra

 

One of these children spent 3 weeks in neonatal intensive

care and is drowsy

and barely alert at 6 weeks.

 

The other is healthy, quite amazingly alert, and obviously

studies the

environment intensely.

 

It is asked to determine which child has the problems.

For those members interested ......

Best regards

Margarita

 

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Hello Margarita,

 

I'm trying to answer the exercise about the two young children using the

ashtakavarga procedure.

I think that health problem at birth should be signified by an affliction to

the first house or a related significator. The lord of the sub-period at

birth time may also be weak for first house.

In the boy's chart, the first house is occupied by the Moon and Ketu. The

Moon has got 5 points in its place in BAV and 12 points for the first house

in SAV. Ketu is samdharmi to Mars and Mercury. Mars is lord of VI but this

is house E if house I is taken as B. Mars has got 16 points in SAV for

house I. Mercury gets just 3 points in SAV for first house . But the birth

is in Saturn/Rahu. Rahu is samdharmi to Mars lord of E with 16 points and to

Venus which gets 17 points in SAV for house I (Mars and Venus get the higher

scores of the worksheet for this house).

 

As for the girl's chart, I get the ascendent at 18°08' Libra (not 22°22')

with Krushna's ayanamsa. I can't figure out where the difference comes from.

As it is,

the first house is aspected by Jupiter lord of VI which has 5 points in its

sign so the aspect is malefic. The birth is in Saturn/Mars. Mars is placed

with Jupiter and has only got 8 points in SAV for the first house.

 

Therefore I think that the girl is the child who has got health problems.

For the boy, the high scores of Mars and Venus for house I and the fact that

the sub-period lord is samdharmi to these two planets suggest good health

and vitality.

 

Maybe my reasoning is not correct. This is an attempt.

 

Best regards

Philippe

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Dear Margarita,

One more thing, the child with Scorpio lagna's ascendent falls in the

nakshatra of Shani whereeas the child with libra lagna's ascendent

falls in Guru's nakshatra (6th lord). This could also show some

health problems ???.

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...>

wrote:

> Dear Margarita and list members,

> Here is my attempt.

>

> The both children are running Shani/Rahu antra. Rahu represents

Mars

> and Venus in both cases.

>

> The child with Scorpio ascendent is the healthy chart as Mars and

> Venus both are giving Mars - 16 points and Venus - 17 points. Mars

> being LOE will not do harm to lagna and Venus is strong hence the

> period seems to be favourable at the time of birth.

>

> The child with Libra ascendent is the child with medical issue at

the

> time of birth. Born again in Saturn/Rahu and Rahu representing

Mars

> and Venus. Here Guru is LOE but Mars is giving 8 points to lagna

and

> Venus is giving 21 points. Though Venus has 4 bindus and Mars has

2,

> Rahu will tend to lean towards Venus but since it also represents

> Mars it may show medical problems.

>

> Margarita, you have also noticed a trait of a child as being

> attentive, and I checked for Shani in the Navamsa, Drekkhana and

> Trimsamsa, the child with Scorpio has Shani in 1 place in the 3

> divisional chart whereas the child with Libra lagna has none. I

> would tend to think that the child with Scorpio lagna is the

healthy

> and more intellegent one.

>

>

> Margarita, please feel free to correct my analysis.

>

> Thanks,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

> wrote:

> > Hello all listmembers,

> > These are two charts from infants born 18 minutes apart.

> > There is no family tie between them. This is a post from

> > another group which I put on this list with permission.

> >

> > Male child

> > June 22, 2002

> > 5:02 pm

> > Yuma AZ 32N43 31 114W37 25

> > USA

> > As 3°18 scorpio -

> >

> > Female child

> > June 22, 2002

> > 4:20 pm

> > Grayslake, IL

> > 42N20 40 088W02 30

> > USA

> > Asc 22°22 libra

> >

> > One of these children spent 3 weeks in neonatal intensive

> > care and is drowsy

> > and barely alert at 6 weeks.

> >

> > The other is healthy, quite amazingly alert, and obviously

> > studies the

> > environment intensely.

> >

> > It is asked to determine which child has the problems.

> > For those members interested ......

> > Best regards

> > Margarita

> >

> > ---

> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date:

> > 8/2/2002

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