Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Dear List Members, I'm working through the lessons with two charts (data given below). Both people are unmarried. I hope someone can help me out. I'm not sure if what I did so far is correct. Female March 8, 1976 26n10, 85e54, 11:30 AM; Zone: 5:30 E Male April 25, 1975 43n41, 79w20, 3:20 PM; Zone: 5:00 W (from the worksheet) Male: Planet: Strength Jupiter 27 Moon 23 Mercury 21 Mars 18 Sun/Venus 15 Saturn 12 (on 100-point scale) L lagna/ 7thL 3/11 = 20 L Moon/ L 7th from Moon 4/10 = 10 L Sun/ L 7th from Sun 4/10 = 10 TOTAL= 40 Female: (from the worksheet) Planet: Strength Saturn 20 Mercury 19 Venus 18 Su/Mo/Ma/Ju 14 (on 100-point scale) L lagna/ 7thL 3/11 = 20 L Moon/ L 7th from Moon 6/8= 0 L Sun/ L 7th from Sun 6/8= 0 TOTAL= 20 Confusions: In the female chart, Mars and Venus are lords of houses C & E respectively, so in rows 12 and 16 I didn't subtract the-5 points that each cast. Is that the correct thing to do? And what of planets that get tied in the total number of points in row 17 of the worksheet…how do you sequentially order them? It happens in both cases of the female and the male. I don't know what to make of it. These are the two charts I'm going to work with and try to figure out myself..so please only comment on what confusions/mistakes I may have made. In the two charts, both male and female have all planets with 12 or more points so (this means?) that each can have a happy married life? (considering them separately) On the 100-point scale the male only got 40 points and the female only got 20 points. Both are less than 50 so each person could get a lot disputes and problems in married life. (considering them separately) Is it problem in married life or problem in getting married itself? Before I go onto to the 15 laws I want to make sure I'm on the right track…your help is greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Puneet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Dear Puneet, Timing and Quality of Marriage are 2 different things and should be looked at differently. I casted the chart of the Female. 1) For Delayed Marriage, Check for Shani. Shani in the ladys chart is in 2nd house (House A), its aspecting House C (11th house) and Jupiter who is Lord of House B (7th). In Navamsa, Shani is aspecting Guru, Chandra and Mars Lords of A,B and C of Rasi. So delay is upto 27.5 years. Now Guru is not aspecting Shani in either Rasi or Navamsa hence full delay of 27.5 years. 2) No Zero points in Sarvashtakavarga Chart. Hence Look for first AntarDasa that will give Marriage after 27.5 years. We should then look for first period after 6th October 2003. Rahu/Venus period would be running during that time. Now Venus is LOE and hence is eager to give result. So it can give result during that time. Now to narrow it down to a few periods we look at Suns transit in powerful significators. For the ladys chart the points in the 7th house are Sun = 14, Moon = 14, Mars = 9, Mercury = 19, Jupiter = 19, Venus = 19 and Saturn = 14. Strongest significators are Venus and Jupiter. Hence When Sun transits Sign and Constellation of Jupiter and Venus i.e December 29, 2003 thru January 10th 2004 Marriage may happen. Now For Quality its differ. These are a few points in addition to what you have stated. From our past discussion on the group Krushnaji mentioned that for quality of marriage you look for Lagna/7th lords from Sun, Moon and Lagna and in addition to that in female chart you also check that from Venus and Mars too. 1) So you get Lagna/7th lord = 3:11, Sun/7th lord = 6:8, Moon/7th lord = 6:8, Venus/7th lord = 3:11 and Mars/7th lord = 3:11. I however do not know how to give points to Mars and Venus. 2) Karaks, Natual = Venus and Functional Karak = Moon. Venus is in constellation of Mars (6th lord) so its spoiled. Moon is with 5 points and in house E so I would think its strong. In Navamsa 6th lord Mars is aspecting Moon, Guru and Sun in the 8th house. 3) 6th lord Mars in Rasi chart is situated in Lagna with 5 points and causing malefic dristi on 7th house. All these things relate to the quality of Marriage. The learned members may correct me in my analysis if its not correct. Puneet, similarly you can try for the male chart and also check for friendship. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " Puneet Joshi " <sunnyjoshi25> wrote: > Dear List Members, > > I'm working through the lessons with two charts (data given below). > Both people are unmarried. I hope someone can help me out. I'm not > sure if what I did so far is correct. > > Female > March 8, 1976 > 26n10, 85e54, 11:30 AM; Zone: 5:30 E > > Male > April 25, 1975 > 43n41, 79w20, 3:20 PM; Zone: 5:00 W > > (from the worksheet) > Male: > Planet: Strength > > Jupiter 27 > Moon 23 > Mercury 21 > Mars 18 > Sun/Venus 15 > Saturn 12 > > (on 100-point scale) > L lagna/ 7thL 3/11 = 20 > L Moon/ L 7th from Moon 4/10 = 10 > L Sun/ L 7th from Sun 4/10 = 10 > TOTAL= 40 > > Female: > > (from the worksheet) > Planet: Strength > > Saturn 20 > Mercury 19 > Venus 18 > Su/Mo/Ma/Ju 14 > > (on 100-point scale) > L lagna/ 7thL 3/11 = 20 > L Moon/ L 7th from Moon 6/8= 0 > L Sun/ L 7th from Sun 6/8= 0 > TOTAL= 20 > > > Confusions: > > In the female chart, Mars and Venus are lords of houses C & E > respectively, so in rows 12 and 16 I didn't subtract the-5 points that > each cast. Is that the correct thing to do? > > And what of planets that get tied in the total number of points in row > 17 of the worksheet…how do you sequentially order them? It happens in > both cases of the female and the male. I don't know what to make of > it. > > These are the two charts I'm going to work with and try to figure out > myself..so please only comment on what confusions/mistakes I may have > made. > > In the two charts, both male and female have all planets with 12 or > more points so (this means?) that each can have a happy married life? > (considering them separately) > > On the 100-point scale the male only got 40 points and the female only > got 20 points. Both are less than 50 so each person could get a lot > disputes and problems in married life. (considering them separately) > Is it problem in married life or problem in getting married itself? > > Before I go onto to the 15 laws I want to make sure I'm on the right > track…your help is greatly appreciated. > > Sincerely, > > Puneet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 Dear Ash and list members, Thanks for your reply and help, My math is pretty weak but now I got the right numbers from the worksheet. So for timing the marriage of the male I followed your footsteps and here's what I came up with (please comment and/or correct wherever you feel necessary) For the male: The points in the 7th house are: Sun=10, Moon=28, Ma=18, Me=15, Ju=21, Ve=15, Sa=6 Saturn rules the 7th house so a delay is indicated of 27.5 years. Mars is in 7th so further delay is possible..i didn't know what to tabulate it as, whether to add years onto the 27.5 or not? Also in Navamsa: Saturn is aspecting Moon Lord of house E in rasi, and also Mercury Lord of house A & C in rasi. Mars gets 0 points in house E in SAV chart. What to make of that? But in rasi Jupiter is aspecting houses A & E. giving benefic points. So I thought to keep it at 27.5 years. First antardasa that could give marriage then would be Mercury Lord of houses A and C which starts from Feb 9, 2004 (Sa/Me/Me). Moon is a strong significator for marriage, sun transits Cancer from July 15, 2004 - so it should be around this date by my shot. Does it look right? 2) Quality of marriage life for the male: Lagna/7th lord = 3:11, Sun/7th lord = 3:11, Moon/7th lord = 5:9, Venus/7th lord = 2:12 and Mars/7th lord = 5:9 so it is good not the greatest. But from the worksheet: Sun & Saturn both have less than 12 points - so disputes/difficulty in getting married or disputes in married life could be there. Venus is in Rohini Nakshatra ruled by Moon which has most points in 7th house (28). Mars is 4L in 7th house and raja yogakaraka aspecting 10L Venus in 10th house indicating that the male will have a love marriage? And high sex drive? I know you said timing and quality are 2 different things but from this if love marriage is indicated would the marriage period be valid or would it be the love affair period that was found earlier? How to differ between the two in this case? Ash, you mentioned to look at friendship in the male's chart I'm not sure what you meant - i.e. to look if the two people be friends not marriage partners or general friendship potential for the male and or female in an individual context? By what I came up with as the possible marriage date for the male and your marriage period for the female being Dec 29 2003- Jan 10 2004, thedates do not coincide - so then they are not a proper match? Going by Kuta system they only share 15 points, and there is nadi dosh there also. I'm going step by step through these two charts and again thank you for your time and guidance. Sincerely, Puneet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Puneet, > > Timing and Quality of Marriage are 2 different things and should be > looked at differently. > > I casted the chart of the Female. > > 1) For Delayed Marriage, Check for Shani. > Shani in the ladys chart is in 2nd house (House A), its aspecting > House C (11th house) and Jupiter who is Lord of House B (7th). > > In Navamsa, Shani is aspecting Guru, Chandra and Mars Lords of A,B > and C of Rasi. > > So delay is upto 27.5 years. Now Guru is not aspecting Shani in > either Rasi or Navamsa hence full delay of 27.5 years. > > 2) No Zero points in Sarvashtakavarga Chart. > > Hence Look for first AntarDasa that will give Marriage after 27.5 > years. > > We should then look for first period after 6th October 2003. > > Rahu/Venus period would be running during that time. > > Now Venus is LOE and hence is eager to give result. So it can give > result during that time. > > Now to narrow it down to a few periods we look at Suns transit in > powerful significators. > > For the ladys chart the points in the 7th house are > Sun = 14, Moon = 14, Mars = 9, Mercury = 19, Jupiter = 19, Venus = 19 > and Saturn = 14. > > Strongest significators are Venus and Jupiter. Hence When Sun > transits Sign and Constellation of Jupiter and Venus i.e December 29, > 2003 thru January 10th 2004 Marriage may happen. > > Now For Quality its differ. These are a few points in addition to > what you have stated. > > From our past discussion on the group Krushnaji mentioned that for > quality of marriage you look for Lagna/7th lords from Sun, Moon and > Lagna and in addition to that in female chart you also check that > from Venus and Mars too. > > 1) So you get Lagna/7th lord = 3:11, Sun/7th lord = 6:8, Moon/7th > lord = 6:8, Venus/7th lord = 3:11 and Mars/7th lord = 3:11. > I however do not know how to give points to Mars and Venus. > > 2) Karaks, Natual = Venus and Functional Karak = Moon. > > Venus is in constellation of Mars (6th lord) so its spoiled. Moon is > with 5 points and in house E so I would think its strong. > In Navamsa 6th lord Mars is aspecting Moon, Guru and Sun in the 8th > house. > > 3) 6th lord Mars in Rasi chart is situated in Lagna with 5 points and > causing malefic dristi on 7th house. > > All these things relate to the quality of Marriage. > > The learned members may correct me in my analysis if its not correct. > > Puneet, similarly you can try for the male chart and also check for > friendship. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Puneet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2002 Report Share Posted September 13, 2002 Dear Puneet, I havent casted the Male chart, but a few things off my hat. Shani in 7th or ruling 7th does not indicate delay of 27.5 years. Even before that we should start with studying the Karak i.e. Venus as the natural karak and lord of 2nd house as the functional karak. Shani if its in 5th house the it aspects A,B and C house for 7th. Only Graha dristi. If Shani is in Guru's Navamsa or associated with Guru then delay is reduced. If Shani aspects lords of A,B and C in Rasi and Navamsa then delay is there. So we have to be judicious when stating delays. Puneet, go through the lessons on Marriage. If a lot of planets are giving high points in row 17 for 7th house then transit of sun in those house/nakshatra can be taken as good dates hence we may get a few probable dates. I do not know how to select muhurata, but from one post from Krushnaji, I believe that for a good muhuruta Moon has got to be in upchaya house. I am sure there must be other laws but this one I remember. When I have some time I shall cast the chart and look into it. Right now the planets are not favourable and my health is a little down. For now go through the lessons and there is also a lesson on friendship. A very good attempt. Please also make sure that you are using Krushna's Ananyamsa. Take care, Cheers !!! Ash , " Puneet Joshi " <sunnyjoshi25> wrote: > Dear Ash and list members, > > Thanks for your reply and help, > > My math is pretty weak but now I got the right numbers from the > worksheet. So for timing the marriage of the male I followed your > footsteps and here's what I came up with (please comment and/or > correct wherever you feel necessary) > > For the male: The points in the 7th house are: Sun=10, Moon=28, > Ma=18, Me=15, Ju=21, Ve=15, Sa=6 > > Saturn rules the 7th house so a delay is indicated of 27.5 years. > Mars is in 7th so further delay is possible..i didn't know what to > tabulate it as, whether to add years onto the 27.5 or not? > > Also in Navamsa: Saturn is aspecting Moon Lord of house E in rasi, > and also Mercury Lord of house A & C in rasi. > > Mars gets 0 points in house E in SAV chart. What to make of that? > > But in rasi Jupiter is aspecting houses A & E. giving benefic points. > So I thought to keep it at 27.5 years. > > First antardasa that could give marriage then would be Mercury Lord > of houses A and C which starts from Feb 9, 2004 (Sa/Me/Me). Moon is a > strong significator for marriage, sun transits Cancer from July 15, > 2004 - so it should be around this date by my shot. Does it look > right? > > 2) Quality of marriage life for the male: > Lagna/7th lord = 3:11, Sun/7th lord = 3:11, Moon/7th > lord = 5:9, Venus/7th lord = 2:12 and Mars/7th lord = 5:9 so it is > good not the greatest. > > But from the worksheet: Sun & Saturn both have less than 12 points - > so disputes/difficulty in getting married or disputes in married life > could be there. > > Venus is in Rohini Nakshatra ruled by Moon which has most points in > 7th house (28). Mars is 4L in 7th house and raja yogakaraka aspecting > 10L Venus in 10th house indicating that the male will have a love > marriage? And high sex drive? > > I know you said timing and quality are 2 different things but from > this if love marriage is indicated would the marriage period be valid > or would it be the love affair period that was found earlier? How to > differ between the two in this case? > > Ash, you mentioned to look at friendship in the male's chart I'm not > sure what you meant - i.e. to look if the two people be friends not > marriage partners or general friendship potential for the male and or > female in an individual context? > > By what I came up with as the possible marriage date for the male and > your marriage period for the female being Dec 29 2003- Jan 10 2004, > thedates do not coincide - so then they are not a proper match? > Going by Kuta system they only share 15 points, and there is nadi dosh > there also. > > I'm going step by step through these two charts and again thank you > for your time and guidance. > > Sincerely, > > Puneet > > > , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> > wrote: > > Dear Puneet, > > > > Timing and Quality of Marriage are 2 different things and should be > > looked at differently. > > > > I casted the chart of the Female. > > > > 1) For Delayed Marriage, Check for Shani. > > Shani in the ladys chart is in 2nd house (House A), its aspecting > > House C (11th house) and Jupiter who is Lord of House B (7th). > > > > In Navamsa, Shani is aspecting Guru, Chandra and Mars Lords of A,B > > and C of Rasi. > > > > So delay is upto 27.5 years. Now Guru is not aspecting Shani in > > either Rasi or Navamsa hence full delay of 27.5 years. > > > > 2) No Zero points in Sarvashtakavarga Chart. > > > > Hence Look for first AntarDasa that will give Marriage after 27.5 > > years. > > > > We should then look for first period after 6th October 2003. > > > > Rahu/Venus period would be running during that time. > > > > Now Venus is LOE and hence is eager to give result. So it can give > > result during that time. > > > > Now to narrow it down to a few periods we look at Suns transit in > > powerful significators. > > > > For the ladys chart the points in the 7th house are > > Sun = 14, Moon = 14, Mars = 9, Mercury = 19, Jupiter = 19, Venus = > 19 > > and Saturn = 14. > > > > Strongest significators are Venus and Jupiter. Hence When Sun > > transits Sign and Constellation of Jupiter and Venus i.e December > 29, > > 2003 thru January 10th 2004 Marriage may happen. > > > > Now For Quality its differ. These are a few points in addition to > > what you have stated. > > > > From our past discussion on the group Krushnaji mentioned that for > > quality of marriage you look for Lagna/7th lords from Sun, Moon and > > Lagna and in addition to that in female chart you also check that > > from Venus and Mars too. > > > > 1) So you get Lagna/7th lord = 3:11, Sun/7th lord = 6:8, Moon/7th > > lord = 6:8, Venus/7th lord = 3:11 and Mars/7th lord = 3:11. > > I however do not know how to give points to Mars and Venus. > > > > 2) Karaks, Natual = Venus and Functional Karak = Moon. > > > > Venus is in constellation of Mars (6th lord) so its spoiled. Moon > is > > with 5 points and in house E so I would think its strong. > > In Navamsa 6th lord Mars is aspecting Moon, Guru and Sun in the 8th > > house. > > > > 3) 6th lord Mars in Rasi chart is situated in Lagna with 5 points > and > > causing malefic dristi on 7th house. > > > > All these things relate to the quality of Marriage. > > > > The learned members may correct me in my analysis if its not > correct. > > > > Puneet, similarly you can try for the male chart and also check for > > friendship. > > > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Puneet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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