Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 Dear Peter, Krushnaji, Margarita and list members, I was studying Respected Petersji chart but in 1 area I ran into some confusion and it was not clear. This is the link. /message/1857 Krushnaji, in your analysis of Peterji's chart you mentioned in the area of Child Birth that Jupiter since it aspects 9th house it cannot give results. But Jupiter is the lord of House D for 5th house for Aquarius ascendent plus in Peters chart it is having Maximum points. The aspect of LOD or LOE is not to be considered but infact it should have been eager to give results. Why is it that you did not select Guru as a planet that could give result. I checked the Navamsa and Guru is in Ascendent in Navamsa and in its own sign thereby making it powerful. What am I missing ? This is only one area that I was confused, everything else fitted nicely. When you get time, could you please shed some light. Cheers !!! Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Hello Ash, I looked up this mail and Peter's chart. I don't know what is wrong but I have a chart with a Capricorn ascendant ???? The data I have are as follows : born 22 June 1930 et 23h25 G.M.T. (Daylight saving time on)1W 47 - 53N42 . I also remember that Peter has no children, mainly because his wife couldn't have any. I did her chart some time later and there was a discussion about the TOB and her ascendant. Could you give me the right data, I cannot open the chart in the message on the site Thanks and best regards Margarita ashsam73 [ashsam73] Monday, September 30, 2002 9:46 PM Clarification on Peter chart Dear Peter, Krushnaji, Margarita and list members, I was studying Respected Petersji chart but in 1 area I ran into some confusion and it was not clear. This is the link. /mess age/1857 Krushnaji, in your analysis of Peterji's chart you mentioned in the area of Child Birth that Jupiter since it aspects 9th house it cannot give results. But Jupiter is the lord of House D for 5th house for Aquarius ascendent plus in Peters chart it is having Maximum points. The aspect of LOD or LOE is not to be considered but infact it should have been eager to give results. Why is it that you did not select Guru as a planet that could give result. I checked the Navamsa and Guru is in Ascendent in Navamsa and in its own sign thereby making it powerful. What am I missing ? This is only one area that I was confused, everything else fitted nicely. When you get time, could you please shed some light. Cheers !!! Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Dear Margarita, Thanks for the quick response. I am getting Aquarius ascendent and the data I have taken is date = June 22nd 1930, time = 23:20 DST = No 1 W 47 53 N 42 The points that Krushnaji got were matching with the one I got so I assumed that the chart was correct. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > I looked up this mail and Peter's chart. I don't know what > is wrong but I have a chart with a Capricorn ascendant ???? > The data I have are as follows : born 22 June 1930 et 23h25 > G.M.T. (Daylight saving time on)1W 47 - 53N42 . > I also remember that Peter has no children, mainly because > his wife couldn't have any. I did her chart some time later > and there was a discussion about the TOB and her ascendant. > Could you give me the right data, I cannot open the chart > in the message on the site > Thanks and best regards > Margarita > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Monday, September 30, 2002 9:46 PM > > Clarification on Peter > chart > > Dear Peter, Krushnaji, Margarita and list members, > I was studying Respected Petersji chart but in 1 area I ran > into some > confusion and it was not clear. > > This is the link. > > /mess > age/1857 > > Krushnaji, in your analysis of Peterji's chart you > mentioned in the > area of Child Birth that Jupiter since it aspects 9th house > it cannot > give results. But Jupiter is the lord of House D for 5th > house for > Aquarius ascendent plus in Peters chart it is having > Maximum points. > The aspect of LOD or LOE is not to be considered but infact > it should > have been eager to give results. Why is it that you did > not select > Guru as a planet that could give result. > > I checked the Navamsa and Guru is in Ascendent in Navamsa > and in its > own sign thereby making it powerful. > > What am I missing ? > > This is only one area that I was confused, everything else > fitted > nicely. > > When you get time, could you please shed some light. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Dear Margarita, Here is a clipping from the word document that Krushnaji gave in the beginning of his first explanation of life events of Peter. Date of Birth : 22/6/1930 at 11:20 pm GMT 53 N42, 1W47, Ayanansha : I used 21:51:27 ( which is near to Raman Ayanansha) Ascendant : 10:09:17; Sun 02:08:56 ; Moon 0:21:13 ; Mars 0: 22:46 ; Mercury 01:17:39 ; Jupiter 02: 07: 15 Venus 03 : 12: 38 Saturn 08 : 17: 19 , Rahu (D.head) 0:09:20 10:09:07 would mean after 10th sign i.e. Aquarius 09 degrees and 07 seconds etc. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > I looked up this mail and Peter's chart. I don't know what > is wrong but I have a chart with a Capricorn ascendant ???? > The data I have are as follows : born 22 June 1930 et 23h25 > G.M.T. (Daylight saving time on)1W 47 - 53N42 . > I also remember that Peter has no children, mainly because > his wife couldn't have any. I did her chart some time later > and there was a discussion about the TOB and her ascendant. > Could you give me the right data, I cannot open the chart > in the message on the site > Thanks and best regards > Margarita > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Monday, September 30, 2002 9:46 PM > > Clarification on Peter > chart > > Dear Peter, Krushnaji, Margarita and list members, > I was studying Respected Petersji chart but in 1 area I ran > into some > confusion and it was not clear. > > This is the link. > > /mess > age/1857 > > Krushnaji, in your analysis of Peterji's chart you > mentioned in the > area of Child Birth that Jupiter since it aspects 9th house > it cannot > give results. But Jupiter is the lord of House D for 5th > house for > Aquarius ascendent plus in Peters chart it is having > Maximum points. > The aspect of LOD or LOE is not to be considered but infact > it should > have been eager to give results. Why is it that you did > not select > Guru as a planet that could give result. > > I checked the Navamsa and Guru is in Ascendent in Navamsa > and in its > own sign thereby making it powerful. > > What am I missing ? > > This is only one area that I was confused, everything else > fitted > nicely. > > When you get time, could you please shed some light. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Dear Margarita, You are sort of right with your data but not quite. The time you give is already corrected for DST. I was born at 00:25 (now rectified to 00:21) on the 23 June 1930. There was 1hour daylight savings in force which made my birth time 23:21GMT on the 22 June 1930. As far as my wife is concerned she was not sure of her TOB but I rectified her chart to 11:59GMT on the 6th December 1930. The rectification was done using a Uranian technique which is very complex and long but I have found quite accurate. Professor Choudry confirmed my rectified time as being accurate. I was born at Brighouse UK 1W47 53N42 My wife was born 6 miles away at Bradford 1W45 53N48 We had no children due to my wife having a radi9cal ovarectomy 5 years after marriage but we fostered a family of 5 children in 1973 on our 20th wedding aniversary. They stayed with us until they went out ot work (or University) and to live their own lives. They still keep in touch with us. Hope this helps Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Thank you Ash but the clipping doesn't solve the problem because asc 10:09:17 means that asc is in the 10th sign = Capricorn at 9°17, same with Sun in 02:08:56 = Sun in Taurus at 2°56, etc. That's anyway how I understand it, otherwise the Moon should be marked 12:21:13. I noticed that for Capricorn asc Jupiter is aspecting the 12th house (for the 5th) This is thus house and so he cannot give results. Perhaps there was a typing error (9th house instead of 12th)??? Best regards Margarita ashsam73 [ashsam73] Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:43 PM Re: Clarification on Peter chart Dear Margarita, Here is a clipping from the word document that Krushnaji gave in the beginning of his first explanation of life events of Peter. Date of Birth : 22/6/1930 at 11:20 pm GMT 53 N42, 1W47, Ayanansha : I used 21:51:27 ( which is near to Raman Ayanansha) Ascendant : 10:09:17; Sun 02:08:56 ; Moon 0:21:13 ; Mars 0: 22:46 ; Mercury 01:17:39 ; Jupiter 02: 07: 15 Venus 03 : 12: 38 Saturn 08 : 17: 19 , Rahu (D.head) 0:09:20 10:09:07 would mean after 10th sign i.e. Aquarius 09 degrees and 07 seconds etc. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > I looked up this mail and Peter's chart. I don't know what > is wrong but I have a chart with a Capricorn ascendant ???? > The data I have are as follows : born 22 June 1930 et 23h25 > G.M.T. (Daylight saving time on)1W 47 - 53N42 . > I also remember that Peter has no children, mainly because > his wife couldn't have any. I did her chart some time later > and there was a discussion about the TOB and her ascendant. > Could you give me the right data, I cannot open the chart > in the message on the site > Thanks and best regards > Margarita > > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...] > Monday, September 30, 2002 9:46 PM > > Clarification on Peter > chart > > Dear Peter, Krushnaji, Margarita and list members, > I was studying Respected Petersji chart but in 1 area I ran > into some > confusion and it was not clear. > > This is the link. > > /mess > age/1857 > > Krushnaji, in your analysis of Peterji's chart you > mentioned in the > area of Child Birth that Jupiter since it aspects 9th house > it cannot > give results. But Jupiter is the lord of House D for 5th > house for > Aquarius ascendent plus in Peters chart it is having > Maximum points. > The aspect of LOD or LOE is not to be considered but infact > it should > have been eager to give results. Why is it that you did > not select > Guru as a planet that could give result. > > I checked the Navamsa and Guru is in Ascendent in Navamsa > and in its > own sign thereby making it powerful. > > What am I missing ? > > This is only one area that I was confused, everything else > fitted > nicely. > > When you get time, could you please shed some light. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Dear Margarita, No Margarita Asc 10.09.17 means the Asc is in the 11th sign at 9*17 as ash said. my Asc is in fact in Aquarius. I dissagree with the degrees but this has more to do with the ayanamsa than anything else. Most Hindu astrology books tend to state the positions in the same way. Thefirst number always means the sign which has last been cleared. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Thnak you Peter for your reply.This will also help Ash out of trouble. I will anyway correct your chart because there no use keeping wrong charts. I see you are still there and doing fine. I know about Uranian techniques but find myself not good enough to use them for birth time correction just not knowing which are the particular pictures one has to look for. I think it's a very good technique for those who master it, but so it is for all techniques. Best regards to both of you an enjoy the coming summer Margarita Peter [petermay] Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:09 AM Re: Clarification on Peter chart Dear Margarita, You are sort of right with your data but not quite. The time you give is already corrected for DST. I was born at 00:25 (now rectified to 00:21) on the 23 June 1930. There was 1hour daylight savings in force which made my birth time 23:21GMT on the 22 June 1930. As far as my wife is concerned she was not sure of her TOB but I rectified her chart to 11:59GMT on the 6th December 1930. The rectification was done using a Uranian technique which is very complex and long but I have found quite accurate. Professor Choudry confirmed my rectified time as being accurate. I was born at Brighouse UK 1W47 53N42 My wife was born 6 miles away at Bradford 1W45 53N48 We had no children due to my wife having a radi9cal ovarectomy 5 years after marriage but we fostered a family of 5 children in 1973 on our 20th wedding aniversary. They stayed with us until they went out ot work (or University) and to live their own lives. They still keep in touch with us. Hope this helps Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 OK Peter, thanks, It's all clear now Best regards Margarita Peter [petermay] Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:23 AM Re: Re: Clarification on Peter chart Dear Margarita, No Margarita Asc 10.09.17 means the Asc is in the 11th sign at 9*17 as ash said. my Asc is in fact in Aquarius. I dissagree with the degrees but this has more to do with the ayanamsa than anything else. Most Hindu astrology books tend to state the positions in the same way. Thefirst number always means the sign which has last been cleared. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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