Lords of D and E Giving / Reverting Results

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and list members,

 

We know that planets or lords of house D and E play a very

significant part in AV system. LOD and LOE are very eager to give

results and ALSO REVERT RESULTS for example, if a marriage took place

duirng the antra of weak significator then during period of strong

significator or LOD or LOE this result will be reverted.

This case is only for marriage, but im sure this holds true for other

events too.

 

Sometimes its very hard to identify if an event will take place or it

will break, like extremes if I may put it that way ?

 

My quesiton is how to identify such ?

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash.

[Guest guest]

Yes Ash, I think you're right. Planets with low points can

give results but the results will not be auspicious. I

think we have mostly focused on the giving of " good "

results. I have no idea how to fix this problem; perhaps we

should start " crystal gazing " ??!! Nevertheless, some

events can be predicted and Mr White Dove's chart seems to

confirm that the Jupiter bukti gave good results for job

related questions. At least that's something....

I don't think I have any other inspiration to forward in

this matter

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

ashsam73 [ashsam73]

Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:59 PM

 

Lords of D and E Giving

/ Reverting Results

 

Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and list members,

 

We know that planets or lords of house D and E play a very

significant part in AV system. LOD and LOE are very eager

to give

results and ALSO REVERT RESULTS for example, if a marriage

took place

duirng the antra of weak significator then during period of

strong

significator or LOD or LOE this result will be reverted.

This case is only for marriage, but im sure this holds true

for other

events too.

 

Sometimes its very hard to identify if an event will take

place or it

will break, like extremes if I may put it that way ?

 

My quesiton is how to identify such ?

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita,

 

There was a chart that I looked at of a person. Whenever there were

antra of LOD or LOE it kept breaking her marriages or relationship

(living together for years). Ofcourse in her chart Venus was

spoiled. So whenever I kept predicting a marriage, it was infact a

long relationship or marriage breaking and period of lot of pain.

 

I dont know if you have ever come across something like that. Thats

what prompted me to ask that. This was not the first time that such

a thing I have observed during LOD or LOE.

 

I am wondering what prompts such things to happen in LOD or LOE. I

however do understand that if major events like marriage happen in a

period of planet or antra of planet having low points then it may

revert during period of planet giving high point...

 

Is this again linked into Divisional charts ? How to see if events

will happen or break during LOD or LOE ?

 

I hope that Krushnaji can clarify this point ?

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Yes Ash, I think you're right. Planets with low points can

> give results but the results will not be auspicious. I

> think we have mostly focused on the giving of " good "

> results. I have no idea how to fix this problem; perhaps we

> should start " crystal gazing " ??!! Nevertheless, some

> events can be predicted and Mr White Dove's chart seems to

> confirm that the Jupiter bukti gave good results for job

> related questions. At least that's something....

> I don't think I have any other inspiration to forward in

> this matter

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

>

> ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]

> Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:59 PM

>

> Lords of D and E Giving

> / Reverting Results

>

> Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and list members,

>

> We know that planets or lords of house D and E play a very

> significant part in AV system. LOD and LOE are very eager

> to give

> results and ALSO REVERT RESULTS for example, if a marriage

> took place

> duirng the antra of weak significator then during period of

> strong

> significator or LOD or LOE this result will be reverted.

> This case is only for marriage, but im sure this holds true

> for other

> events too.

>

> Sometimes its very hard to identify if an event will take

> place or it

> will break, like extremes if I may put it that way ?

>

> My quesiton is how to identify such ?

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Ash,

Yes, Krushna stated that marriages performed in sub of

planets with low points or lord of the 6th from B will

break up in sub of planets with more points. Why, I just

don't know. But in Astrology, especially Jyotish, there are

things I don't " grasp " and I put them on my list of

" cultural differences " .

In my opinion, we cannot compare traditional Indian

marriage with relationships in the West. Here it's more a

question of 5th and 12th house matters, in India it is a

" social " event were not only 2 people are implicated but

whole families and even more.

What I have seen is that these relationships in the west

follow the breaking-up rules we've learned. I've seen

different charts of marriages or relationships that started

in period with low points or lords of the 6th which broke

up during a sub with very high points for the 2nd house.

This was even true in a couple of homosexuals. So these

laws work fine. I think we must consider temporary

relationship as a kind of marriage. In the past

nevertheless, people didn't divorce so easily, so I suppose

it has also to do with the incapacity of people to cope

with difficulties; they just run away from them to solve

the problem.

So Krushna's law work, but here we have to take them with a

pinch of salt

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

ashsam73 [ashsam73]

Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:29 AM

 

Re: Lords of D and E

Giving / Reverting Results

 

Dear Margarita,

 

There was a chart that I looked at of a person. Whenever

there were

antra of LOD or LOE it kept breaking her marriages or

relationship

(living together for years). Ofcourse in her chart Venus

was

spoiled. So whenever I kept predicting a marriage, it was

infact a

long relationship or marriage breaking and period of lot of

pain.

 

I dont know if you have ever come across something like

that. Thats

what prompted me to ask that. This was not the first time

that such

a thing I have observed during LOD or LOE.

 

I am wondering what prompts such things to happen in LOD or

LOE. I

however do understand that if major events like marriage

happen in a

period of planet or antra of planet having low points then

it may

revert during period of planet giving high point...

 

Is this again linked into Divisional charts ? How to see

if events

will happen or break during LOD or LOE ?

 

I hope that Krushnaji can clarify this point ?

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " dmlettens "

<dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Yes Ash, I think you're right. Planets with low points

can

> give results but the results will not be auspicious. I

> think we have mostly focused on the giving of " good "

> results. I have no idea how to fix this problem; perhaps

we

> should start " crystal gazing " ??!! Nevertheless, some

> events can be predicted and Mr White Dove's chart seems

to

> confirm that the Jupiter bukti gave good results for job

> related questions. At least that's something....

> I don't think I have any other inspiration to forward in

> this matter

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

>

> ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]

> Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:59 PM

>

> Lords of D and E

Giving

> / Reverting Results

>

> Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and list members,

>

> We know that planets or lords of house D and E play a

very

> significant part in AV system. LOD and LOE are very

eager

> to give

> results and ALSO REVERT RESULTS for example, if a

marriage

> took place

> duirng the antra of weak significator then during period

of

> strong

> significator or LOD or LOE this result will be reverted.

> This case is only for marriage, but im sure this holds

true

> for other

> events too.

>

> Sometimes its very hard to identify if an event will take

> place or it

> will break, like extremes if I may put it that way ?

>

> My quesiton is how to identify such ?

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Margarita, Ash, Shri Peterji and All list members,

I must thank you for taking more interest in discussion. I

am happy.

Margarita: You wrote Marriage performed ..... lord of 6th

house from B..... Please correct this lord of 12th house from B.

 

Ash: Yes marriages or any event performed due to any reason

in the sub of planets having less points, gets reverted in the sub of

strong planet. For such things there must be some yog, which should

denote such things. For Example in the event of Marriage:

Constellation of Venus, Distance from Sun, Jupiter in Libra sign or

Navamansha, relationship of 1 and 7th lord from Lagna, Sun Moon,

Venus is also important. Such marriage generally performed in the sub

of planet having less points, and broke in the sub of planet having

more points or LoD or LoE.

 

Peterji: Yes the person having more points in 11th house

then 12th house manages his expences with in his income, and can save

also.

 

Some hints: Planets gives results as per their situation

and relations with other planet. If any planet is samdharmi to 6th

lord, it will give result with a touch of sixth lord.

Planets in association with other planets becomes

samdharmi, so Result is a combine effect. This should be seen from

Raqshi and Navamansha chart. The planet in a sign with more points,

becames powerful then the lord itself. ( you can compare it with a

house owner and a tanent. Tanent is more powerful in his house, may

be ranted )

If any planet gets points from 6th lord or from 12th lord

from house B it will give the result having shade of some problem.

Even if the lords of D or E are related with the planets 6th or 12th

from B it may give the adverse result.

The result in the sub of planet having less points may show

some rise and down as per the transit of Sun. If Sun have transit in

the constellation of planet having good points then the result in

that period is good. Transit of Sun in each constellation is about 13

days aprox. If two three such Constellations are in series then a

month or so may be a good time.

For two days 10th and 11th I am here. Will try to come to

list.

krushna

 

 

 

, " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

wrote:

> Hello Ash,

> Yes, Krushna stated that marriages performed in sub of

> planets with low points or lord of the 6th from B will

> break up in sub of planets with more points. Why, I just

> don't know. But in Astrology, especially Jyotish, there are

> things I don't " grasp " and I put them on my list of

> " cultural differences " .

> In my opinion, we cannot compare traditional Indian

> marriage with relationships in the West. Here it's more a

> question of 5th and 12th house matters, in India it is a

> " social " event were not only 2 people are implicated but

> whole families and even more.

> What I have seen is that these relationships in the west

> follow the breaking-up rules we've learned. I've seen

> different charts of marriages or relationships that started

> in period with low points or lords of the 6th which broke

> up during a sub with very high points for the 2nd house.

> This was even true in a couple of homosexuals. So these

> laws work fine. I think we must consider temporary

> relationship as a kind of marriage. In the past

> nevertheless, people didn't divorce so easily, so I suppose

> it has also to do with the incapacity of people to cope

> with difficulties; they just run away from them to solve

> the problem.

> So Krushna's law work, but here we have to take them with a

> pinch of salt

> Best regards

> Margarita

>

>

> ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]

> Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:29 AM

>

> Re: Lords of D and E

> Giving / Reverting Results

>

> Dear Margarita,

>

> There was a chart that I looked at of a person. Whenever

> there were

> antra of LOD or LOE it kept breaking her marriages or

> relationship

> (living together for years). Ofcourse in her chart Venus

> was

> spoiled. So whenever I kept predicting a marriage, it was

> infact a

> long relationship or marriage breaking and period of lot of

> pain.

>

> I dont know if you have ever come across something like

> that. Thats

> what prompted me to ask that. This was not the first time

> that such

> a thing I have observed during LOD or LOE.

>

> I am wondering what prompts such things to happen in LOD or

> LOE. I

> however do understand that if major events like marriage

> happen in a

> period of planet or antra of planet having low points then

> it may

> revert during period of planet giving high point...

>

> Is this again linked into Divisional charts ? How to see

> if events

> will happen or break during LOD or LOE ?

>

> I hope that Krushnaji can clarify this point ?

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " dmlettens "

> <dmlettens@s...>

> wrote:

> > Yes Ash, I think you're right. Planets with low points

> can

> > give results but the results will not be auspicious. I

> > think we have mostly focused on the giving of " good "

> > results. I have no idea how to fix this problem; perhaps

> we

> > should start " crystal gazing " ??!! Nevertheless, some

> > events can be predicted and Mr White Dove's chart seems

> to

> > confirm that the Jupiter bukti gave good results for job

> > related questions. At least that's something....

> > I don't think I have any other inspiration to forward in

> > this matter

> > Best regards

> > Margarita

> >

> >

> > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]

> > Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:59 PM

> >

> > Lords of D and E

> Giving

> > / Reverting Results

> >

> > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and list members,

> >

> > We know that planets or lords of house D and E play a

> very

> > significant part in AV system. LOD and LOE are very

> eager

> > to give

> > results and ALSO REVERT RESULTS for example, if a

> marriage

> > took place

> > duirng the antra of weak significator then during period

> of

> > strong

> > significator or LOD or LOE this result will be reverted.

> > This case is only for marriage, but im sure this holds

> true

> > for other

> > events too.

> >

> > Sometimes its very hard to identify if an event will take

> > place or it

> > will break, like extremes if I may put it that way ?

> >

> > My quesiton is how to identify such ?

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Krushnaji,

Thank you for this post and hint. It was very enlightning as

always. Will practice keeping these points in mind and will ask you

more questions and clarifications as an when they arise

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, " krushanain " <krushanain>

wrote:

> Dear Margarita, Ash, Shri Peterji and All list members,

> I must thank you for taking more interest in discussion.

I

> am happy.

> Margarita: You wrote Marriage performed ..... lord of 6th

> house from B..... Please correct this lord of 12th house from B.

>

> Ash: Yes marriages or any event performed due to any

reason

> in the sub of planets having less points, gets reverted in the sub

of

> strong planet. For such things there must be some yog, which should

> denote such things. For Example in the event of Marriage:

> Constellation of Venus, Distance from Sun, Jupiter in Libra sign or

> Navamansha, relationship of 1 and 7th lord from Lagna, Sun Moon,

> Venus is also important. Such marriage generally performed in the

sub

> of planet having less points, and broke in the sub of planet having

> more points or LoD or LoE.

>

> Peterji: Yes the person having more points in 11th house

> then 12th house manages his expences with in his income, and can

save

> also.

>

> Some hints: Planets gives results as per their situation

> and relations with other planet. If any planet is samdharmi to 6th

> lord, it will give result with a touch of sixth lord.

> Planets in association with other planets becomes

> samdharmi, so Result is a combine effect. This should be seen from

> Raqshi and Navamansha chart. The planet in a sign with more points,

> becames powerful then the lord itself. ( you can compare it with a

> house owner and a tanent. Tanent is more powerful in his house, may

> be ranted )

> If any planet gets points from 6th lord or from 12th lord

> from house B it will give the result having shade of some problem.

> Even if the lords of D or E are related with the planets 6th or

12th

> from B it may give the adverse result.

> The result in the sub of planet having less points may

show

> some rise and down as per the transit of Sun. If Sun have transit

in

> the constellation of planet having good points then the result in

> that period is good. Transit of Sun in each constellation is about

13

> days aprox. If two three such Constellations are in series then a

> month or so may be a good time.

> For two days 10th and 11th I am here. Will try to come to

> list.

> krushna

>

>

>

> , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...>

> wrote:

> > Hello Ash,

> > Yes, Krushna stated that marriages performed in sub of

> > planets with low points or lord of the 6th from B will

> > break up in sub of planets with more points. Why, I just

> > don't know. But in Astrology, especially Jyotish, there are

> > things I don't " grasp " and I put them on my list of

> > " cultural differences " .

> > In my opinion, we cannot compare traditional Indian

> > marriage with relationships in the West. Here it's more a

> > question of 5th and 12th house matters, in India it is a

> > " social " event were not only 2 people are implicated but

> > whole families and even more.

> > What I have seen is that these relationships in the west

> > follow the breaking-up rules we've learned. I've seen

> > different charts of marriages or relationships that started

> > in period with low points or lords of the 6th which broke

> > up during a sub with very high points for the 2nd house.

> > This was even true in a couple of homosexuals. So these

> > laws work fine. I think we must consider temporary

> > relationship as a kind of marriage. In the past

> > nevertheless, people didn't divorce so easily, so I suppose

> > it has also to do with the incapacity of people to cope

> > with difficulties; they just run away from them to solve

> > the problem.

> > So Krushna's law work, but here we have to take them with a

> > pinch of salt

> > Best regards

> > Margarita

> >

> >

> > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]

> > Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:29 AM

> >

> > Re: Lords of D and E

> > Giving / Reverting Results

> >

> > Dear Margarita,

> >

> > There was a chart that I looked at of a person. Whenever

> > there were

> > antra of LOD or LOE it kept breaking her marriages or

> > relationship

> > (living together for years). Ofcourse in her chart Venus

> > was

> > spoiled. So whenever I kept predicting a marriage, it was

> > infact a

> > long relationship or marriage breaking and period of lot of

> > pain.

> >

> > I dont know if you have ever come across something like

> > that. Thats

> > what prompted me to ask that. This was not the first time

> > that such

> > a thing I have observed during LOD or LOE.

> >

> > I am wondering what prompts such things to happen in LOD or

> > LOE. I

> > however do understand that if major events like marriage

> > happen in a

> > period of planet or antra of planet having low points then

> > it may

> > revert during period of planet giving high point...

> >

> > Is this again linked into Divisional charts ? How to see

> > if events

> > will happen or break during LOD or LOE ?

> >

> > I hope that Krushnaji can clarify this point ?

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " dmlettens "

> > <dmlettens@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > Yes Ash, I think you're right. Planets with low points

> > can

> > > give results but the results will not be auspicious. I

> > > think we have mostly focused on the giving of " good "

> > > results. I have no idea how to fix this problem; perhaps

> > we

> > > should start " crystal gazing " ??!! Nevertheless, some

> > > events can be predicted and Mr White Dove's chart seems

> > to

> > > confirm that the Jupiter bukti gave good results for job

> > > related questions. At least that's something....

> > > I don't think I have any other inspiration to forward in

> > > this matter

> > > Best regards

> > > Margarita

> > >

> > >

> > > ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]

> > > Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:59 PM

> > >

> > > Lords of D and E

> > Giving

> > > / Reverting Results

> > >

> > > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita and list members,

> > >

> > > We know that planets or lords of house D and E play a

> > very

> > > significant part in AV system. LOD and LOE are very

> > eager

> > > to give

> > > results and ALSO REVERT RESULTS for example, if a

> > marriage

> > > took place

> > > duirng the antra of weak significator then during period

> > of

> > > strong

> > > significator or LOD or LOE this result will be reverted.

> > > This case is only for marriage, but im sure this holds

> > true

> > > for other

> > > events too.

> > >

> > > Sometimes its very hard to identify if an event will take

> > > place or it

> > > will break, like extremes if I may put it that way ?

> > >

> > > My quesiton is how to identify such ?

> > >

> > > Thanking you,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >