Lesson 16 questions - Clarification

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Dear Krushnaji, Margarita, Peter and Donna and list members,

 

In this lesson I have not understood something maybe you can explain

to me. Some how I seem to be the only person on the list with a

million questions and kinda feel dumb ..

 

In anycase, I shall go ahead and ask the logic behind this.

 

In the lesson and the example that Peter asked regarding Venus

 

1) What is the connection between Venus and Jupiter for delay of the

event to the last 1/3rd portion ?

 

Why would Venus being linked to GURU push the event to the last 1/3rd

portion ???? What did I miss. Shouldnt infact being associated to

Guru move the event to 1st 1/3rd portion of the sub ?

 

a) The logic *I thought* was that if the strong significator is

linked to Shani being in navamsa, nakshatra, sign or being aspected

by shani and only shani as he is the delay causing planet then the

event would be pushed to the last 1/3rd portion of the sub.

 

b) If the significator is being aspected by Jupiter then the portion

would then become 2nd 1/3rd portion (if saturn is already causing

delay).

 

c) If the significator is only aspected by Guru or associated with

Guru like being in the sign, nakshatra, aspected etc, then the event

will take place during the 1st 1/3rd portion of the sub.

 

Now it seems that these laws would vary from Planet to Planet.

 

eg. For Venus if its associated with Shani AND GURU .. or in the

constellation of GURU or aadra, mula, krittika, jayeshta would also

probably push the event to last 1/3rd portion of the sub.

 

2) What about other planets. For example, Shani itself. It itself

is the delay causing planet so how to consider Shani's sub ? Being

the natural delay causing planet would it by default push the events

to the last 1/3rd portion ? What would cause an event to take place

in the first 1/3rd portion of Shani's antra ? What is the logic to

follow for Shani to deleneate which portion would the event call

under ?

 

Krushnaji when you have time, could you please guide us to identify

the logic to approach for other planets and if there is anything in

particular or logic that one has to follow for other planets like

Mars, Sun, Moon, Mercury based on what is discussed above ?

 

The second part of the lesson is clear regarding considering Navamsa

lord, Nakshatra placement etc.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " krushna kalani J.K. "

<krushanain@h...> wrote:

> Dear Donna,

> More clearification against your question

>

>

> >DQuinn12@A...

> >

> >

> > Re: Lesson 16 questions

> >Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:54:09 EST

> >

> > Dear Krushna -

> >

> >

> > > It is all right, Go ahead.

> >

> >

> > Thanks, Krushna.

> > I would also like to add in the further clarification that you

made to

> >Peter earlier in

> >reagrd to the length of the bhuktis before I add it to the FILE

section so

> >that it will be

> >made a little clearer, but before I do that could y ou plaease

explain the

> >second

> >pargraph again to me? I find it very confusing to understand for

some

> >reason.

> >Once

> >I get it straight in my head, I can make it alot clearer in the

lesson too.

> >My questions below will be in caps.

> >

> >

> >

> >In the case when Saturn the delay causing planet is not aspecting,

or

> >the significating planet is not having relation with Saturn, ( not

in

> >the navamansha of Saturn or Sign or constellation ruled by Saturn.

> >Then the event will be earlier in the sub period.

> >

> >THIS PART I UNDERSTAND AND CAN MAKE A LITTLE CLEARER IN THE LESSON

AS WELL.

> >

> >Now the case is of Venus, and assumed that it is not in the

> >constellation of Saturn or Jupiter.

> >

> >OK, GOT THAT.

> >

> >It means it should be in first eight signs.

> >Last eight signs are related to Jupiter and Saturn.

> >WHY? IN ORDER FOR IT TO BRING ABOUT AN EARLY EVENT YOU MEAN? WHAT

IF VENUS

> >HAPPENS TO FALL IN THE CONSTELLATION OF REVATI AND/OR ANY OTHER

> >CONSTELLATION

> >BESIDES THE FIRST 8? PLEASE EXPLAIN AGAIN. 9th sign is ruled by

Jupiter,

> >10th and 11th by Saturn and 12th sign is ruled by Jupiter. It

should be

> >seen from sign or constellation. When it is said that Venus is not

having

> >any connection with Saturn and or Jupiter, it means it is not in

last four

> >signs.

> >

> >and in that also not in the constellation of Jupiter and Saturn.

> >

> >OK.

> >

> >So if it is in Aswini, Bharani, Rohini, Ashlesha, Magha,

> >Purva, Uttara, Hasta, Chitra, Swati constellation, the period

should

> >be as per the lord of constellation. Rohini,Uttara, Ashlesha,

Hasta,

> >

> >

> >THIS IS CONFUSING TO ME. WHAT ABOUT MRIGISHIRA, PURNAVASU AND

PUSHYAMI? YOU

> >SEEMED TO HAVE LEFT THESE OUT AS PART OF THE FIRST 8 SIGNS. COULD

YOU

> >RE-EXPLAIN THIS PART BY USING AN EXAMPLE FOR INSTANCE AS TO WHAT

YOU'RE

> >TRYING TO SAY HERE?If you have read that Sun, Moon, Mercury gives

the

> >result in early part of the sub period. Mrug is ruled by Mars, so

it will

> >be in second part. Punarvasu and Pushya are ruled by Jupiter and

Saturn

> >respectively. So avoided.

> >

> >Gives in first part, Remaing in 2nd part.

> >

> >GIVES WHAT IN THE FIRST PART? WHAT'S REMAINING IN THE 2ND PART?

> >PLEASE CLARIFY. ( I MUST BE HAVING A DUMB DAY. . . ) If Venus is

the

> >significator, and if it is in the sign and Constellation of Sun,

Moon,

> >Mercury then the results may be axcepted in the first part of the

sub

> >period. ( We have divided the sub period in 3 equal parts)

> >

> > The constellations I omited

> >in the first 8 signs are bad for Venus. Venus in Krittika, Aradra,

> >Jestha, ( and Mul) spoils the nature of Venus. So result will not

be

> >favourable.

> >

> >IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THESE PARTICULAR

NAKSHATRA

> >POSITIONS ARE WEAK FOR VENUS? I think this have been explained in

the last

> >lessons, regarding delayed marriage, or diverce, or loss of spouse.

>

> If you see keenly for all the examples of unhappy marriage, you

will find

> Venus in these constelations.

> You can also study the BA 60 chart of satva group,( if I remember

correctly)

> the Venus is in the constellation of Krittika, and Jupiter in

Libra. So

> women is facing the problem in her marriage life.

> I think this will clear. Peter asked only for Venus, So I gave

explaination

> related to Venus Only.......krushna

> >Thanks, Krushna! )

> >

> >Donna

> >

>

>

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